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Tweeked
01-29-2003, 09:33 PM
Hey,
I am just curious if you guys have ever heard anyone HIGHLY modifying a trike and adding Nitros, super charger, etc. to one. I think it would be wicked sweet to see a supercharged 350x suped up with some Nitros :twisted: ....I've seen some supercharged quads and some that run on Nitros. Anyways, just thought i'd ask, I've been wondering for a while now :D .



See ya


-Mike

Macs
01-29-2003, 10:08 PM
the only experience i had with that was me and some friends put nos on a ct70. it was a blast for about a day then the thing started smoking horribly and lost compression. i think we burned a hole through the piston. if that is any help

Tweeked
01-29-2003, 10:35 PM
Haha, LMAO. That sounds like wicked fun :twisted: ! Especialy on a little 70...hahaha. I wonder what a 250r would do...I bet it would pump well over 100 ponies...

NOS_350X
01-29-2003, 11:38 PM
i usta have nos on my x but i had to rebuild it 2 times and said screw it and took it off

kilabeez0
01-29-2003, 11:39 PM
There's a 350 3 wheeler in the want ad here that is completely modified and hooked up with NOS. The guy is asking $4000!

Jonathan
01-30-2003, 12:39 AM
Sorry, I just have to say it. It's called nitrous oxide, or if you want to shorten it just call it nitrous or n2o or something, but don't call it "nos". NOS is a brand name, it's an acronym for a company called Nitrous Oxide Systems. Calling it "nos" makes you sound like an idiot and it's just the wrong terminology. That's just one of my pet peeves and I had to say something about it when I saw a thread with 4 out of the 5 posts and all 4 posters calling it "nos".

djcheez
01-30-2003, 01:07 AM
johnathan, i dont mean to sound like a jerk, but most guys that are into racing and use no2, call it nos for short. you are right that it is short for that well known company, but most people use it commonly. if it is a pet peave that is fine too, and it is alright to express your opinion. but in reality, most people in the racing world who use no2 are not considered idiots when they call it nos. oh and to the Q, about the superchargers, i dont know any quads or trikes that run them. not to say there arent any, but i think most guys prefer the turbos. turbos are more efficient and can be more potent. though they have that "lag" people choose to use them anyway. i have seen many trikes that use nos, mostly atc 250r's. as far as getting 100 h.p. out of one, yes that is possible, but remember tuning is critical. if something is not perfect then it can be very expensive to keep it running. a stock 250r prolly has 30 or so h.p. just adding a 70 shot of nos to get 100 ponies would not be recommended.

Jonathan
01-30-2003, 01:32 AM
but in reality, most people in the racing world who use no2 are not considered idiots when they call it nos.
I'm not trying to hi-jack the thread and turn it into a big arguement, but what racing world are you from? Domestic, import, or neither and you've just seen the "Fast and the Furious"? Also, it's n2o, not no2, no2 would be nitrous dioxide or something like that.

djcheez
01-30-2003, 01:42 AM
yes it was a misprint on my part. i do know its proper molecular components and the abbreviation. No i have never seen fast and furious. looks dumb. it is obvious that you know little about racing or we wouldnt be having this conversation. i have been around cars a lil. both imports and others. dont know much bout them but enough to know the lingo. i also am big in the atv drag racing. I think that qualifies me anough to say that when using the term nos, you are not looked at as an idiot.

Jonathan
01-30-2003, 02:04 AM
Ok, you can call it "nos" if you want, but the point is that it's the wrong term for the gas. I'm not claiming to know more about cars or trikes or anything than anyone else, and I'm not saying that I've been around cars more than you. In fact, you've probably spent more time around cars and ATV's than me, but that doesn't qualify you to use the wrong name for the gas or to say that it's ok for others to.


Also, it's n2o, not no2, no2 would be nitrous dioxide or something like that.
Just in case someone on here is a chemist or something, after further thought, I realize that no2 would not be nitrous dioxide, but no2 is and impossible substance that cannot possibly be created due to the fact that 2 atoms of oxygen cannot combine with one atom of nitrogen.

ATCRYDER
01-30-2003, 02:17 AM
Sorry, I just have to say it. It's called nitrous oxide, or if you want to shorten it just call it nitrous or n2o or something, but don't call it "nos". NOS is a brand name, it's an acronym for a company called Nitrous Oxide Systems. Calling it "nos" makes you sound like an idiot and it's just the wrong terminology. That's just one of my pet peeves and I had to say something about it when I saw a thread with 4 out of the 5 posts and all 4 posters calling it "nos".


Yes, EXACTLY> Thanks for saying that. I have to hear from 100 idiots a month it seems "NAWS" as N.O.S Brand Nitrous. God DAMN "The Fast & the Furious'!!!! ;)

Jonathan
01-30-2003, 02:44 AM
Thank you, finally someone agrees with me.

I have to hear from 100 idiots a month it seems "NAWS" as N.O.S Brand Nitrous.
You think you have it bad, I'm in high-school, I have to hear it at least 100 times a day.

God DAMN "The Fast & the Furious'!!!!
If it wasn't for my severe attention defacite disorder, that movie would have left me alot stupider. Nos is NOT a gas, two bottles of it do not make you go faster than one, front wheel drive street cars do NOT run the quarter in 10 seconds, and if you're racing a Civic because you're afraid of your Charger, then you probably don't have testicles.

djcheez
01-30-2003, 03:17 AM
"that doesn't qualify you to use the wrong name for the gas or to say that it's ok for others to."

It seems we disagree on the terminology of nitrous oxide. if you have a pet peave that is fine, i can imagine a bunch of guys after seeing fast and furious goin around saying nos and nawz being annoying. since they prolly dont know squat about it. NOS actually paid buckoo bucks to be the only nitrous manufacturer in that movie. that is what i hear at least. if you want to get technical with how a gas or anything for that matter is termed then you must realize that many things we talk about are not described using "Proper" terminology. When we talk about breathing. we say that we breathe air, or even oxygen, but you and i know that the gas we breathe is not "air" or just oxygen. it is a combination of many gases. no one goes around saying we breathe x,y,z. nos is just an acceptable term used to decribe a system, which incorporates the use of nitrous oxide. it is VERY acceptable to use the term. however if a person refers to the specific gas used as nos, then yes he/she would be wrong. I am sure there are many doughballs out there that run around saying nos this or nos that. But ya know, most of them dont know thier left foot from there right foot, let alone how a nitrous oxide system works. so let em run around and flap their mouth and think they are cool. youll be able to pick out who knows their trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro.

djcheez
01-30-2003, 03:20 AM
oh and i have seen a honda civic run 10.24 in the 1/4. has bout a 350 h.p. motor. they might make it to the 9's this year. i would have never believed it till i saw it. it is a front wheel drive car too.

theeechozen1
01-30-2003, 01:20 PM
NOS is cool!! sorry couldn't help myself :D

Tweeked
01-30-2003, 01:22 PM
LMAO :D :D

Tweeked
01-30-2003, 02:27 PM
Hey,
Heres a pictures of a Blaster that uses Nitros...

theeechozen1
01-30-2003, 02:39 PM
When I was at the dunes for the Jan 17th weekend there was a 400ex with a chrome NOS bottle under the rear plastic, it was very quick and sounded extemely mean, beat alot of hopped up shees at the hill. That was the weekend of the 4-stroke wars, Damn I wish I had some pics of that event, The Curtis Sparks Raptor was the quickest 4-stroke I have ever seen, they had it stripped down to the bare bone, they even had to pull start it with another rap-turd!!!

Tweeked
01-30-2003, 02:52 PM
Ahh, man. That sounds awsome...What do u mean they had tp use another raptor to start it? They had striped it down to wear they need a drill or another machine? Thats insaine, I've seen that on those race go karts where they use the machines to start them...Geeze.

theeechozen1
01-30-2003, 03:12 PM
They had the starter removed and anything else that wasnt needed to race up the hill, so they had a pull starter like a atc70 and had to use a bike to start it cause of the compression.

Da_Catt
01-30-2003, 04:13 PM
when using nitrous you have to make sure the motor is tuned right. if you run too lean it will melt or put a whole in the piston. or if you can't supply enough gas. the timing needs to be retarded a little also. forged pistons are better than cast for nitrous. I have never used nitrous on a atv enging, so i am going off of what i know about cars.

Dan Tenn
01-30-2003, 04:48 PM
I am a chemist, and this topic caught my eye. NO2 is called nitrite. It is an unstable compound, and will not stay as NO2 for long. It will most likely complex with a metal such as potassium or sodium and form a salt. BTW using a brand name as a name for an item is very common and completely acceptable. Have you ever used a channel lock, or do you call it an adjustable plier. Vise grip or a locking plier. Just a couple of examples. Ever used viagra, or do you call it sildenafil citrate. It may not be proper terminology, but everyone will know what your talking about. ;)

dividebyzero
01-30-2003, 06:22 PM
I have an 85 350x with a 452 big bore kit in it. I've been thinking about putting nitrous on it(really bad).It has a JE piston,webcam,dg exhaust,hardweld rockers,barnett clutch,k&n filter w/outerwear.the main jet went from a 138 to a 140 and the pilot jet(idle) went to a 65! just to keep it idling,but if you let it idle so long it will foul the plug.My stock 85 250r would kick it in stock trim,but now,the X will eat it in any gear(gives my raptor a run for its money-hehe).Does anyone know how much it would be for nitrous,parts,labor,etc.

djcheez
01-30-2003, 06:26 PM
if you are somewhat mechanically inclined, you can hook it up yourself. dont know how much it costs for a single cylinder though. i paid 600 for a 3 cylinder. call NOS and ask them for a price for your bike. they will tell you. better jet properly and keep a close eye on things or KABOOM!!! :shock:

ATC crazy
01-30-2003, 07:17 PM
There was an arcticle in Dirtwheels on a Raptor 770 w/ n2o on it. I bet that thing would fly. :twisted:

dividebyzero
01-30-2003, 09:37 PM
When i seen that article i wanted to do that but at the time no funds.GO BIG OR GO HOME!

Tweeked
01-30-2003, 10:08 PM
Yeah,
I have the issue with that raptor in it. I looks SWEET, yeah I bet is a ! :twisted: speed demon :twisted: ! But it looks VERY exspencive...

250rmanfmf
01-30-2003, 11:07 PM
I have seen a couple of 250R's that has NOS but you have to be careful when using the stuff.

Macs
01-31-2003, 12:29 AM
hey den tenn you hit it right on the nose . brand names are often substitue for the real name. i dont know how many times i ask for a coke but my wife knows i want dr pepper ask for a crescent wrench instead of an adjustable wrench. allen wrench for hex head. you get the point. NOS is a brand name.

4cylinders
01-31-2003, 01:15 AM
nice stuff, but why not h2, as in kawasaki? more fun, less bucks? check it out.

plkmonster2
01-31-2003, 01:28 AM
some company sells a turbo for a 110 that runs off the cam, would be cool, but the price tag is about 1000 :shock:

djcheez
01-31-2003, 01:54 AM
h2 you say? that is one fun motor