Pics of sx with x front end

[pomona51]

Here they are

[1984kxtTECATE]

Cool, any difference in handling???

[Darius1502]

Wow...thats how Honda should have done it....I mean what advantage is there to a wide front tire? You could argue in sand and snow its less likely to dig in...

[toyota200x]

Man you have som MIRON bars on that. Set them up Chicago style. Cool looking trike.

[pomona51]

The bike handles a lot better. I put in some progressive springs and they work great. Honda should had done it like this in the first place.

Toyota200x what are miron bars and what is chicago style.

[Maine_Triker]

WOW you did one heck of nice job!!! On ours my dad is going to do the 350x look with the white tank and blue seat. We should be getting our brake setup for the front anyday now...........

[pomona51]

Thanks for all of the great feed back.

[straight pipe]

cool! that is an awsome mod. i never regretted doin that on mine!

[85 250sx]

hey pomona51 what all did you have to change to put the x front end on? did you have to exchage the tripples and everything or do you just have to replace the shocks

[pomona51]

You have to change the entire front end. Tripples, forks, break, etc... There is a lot of work involved but worth it. You also have to make a new steering stop. I put mine on the front of the goose neck.

The thing I hated the most about the whole conversion was the lower ball bearings and welding.

[mad_max]

Good job Pamona... ;)

[pomona51]

Thanks Max

[Derrick Adams]

Very nice mod. That's the way they should look!

[MO350X]

I've had the itch to do that to my 250SX since I got it but haven't pursued getting the parts.

By welding, you mean welding on the stops, right?

Bearings:
Did you use 200X or 250SX stem bearings?
Or were mods necessary to the stem to make them fit?

Thanks for your help.

[Maine_Triker]

The SX stem bearings will be fine, no mods needed. It's actually incredibly simple to just slide the new triples right into place.

Also you do need to weld new stoppers otherwise your tank will become your stopper!!! LOL

[MO350X]

The SX stem bearings will be fine, no mods needed. It's actually incredibly simple to just slide the new triples right into place.

Also you do need to weld new stoppers otherwise your tank will become your stopper!!! LOL


Man, that's almost too easy.
I believe I have a line on a 200X roller that would be a perfect donor.
Hmmmm......

It sure makes the 250SX look like an entirely different (BETTER!) trike.

:beer

[85 250sx]

so are you saying the only actual modifications you need to do is weld on stoppers and the rest is bolt on?

[Maine_Triker]

so are you saying the only actual modifications you need to do is weld on stoppers and the rest is bolt on?

Amazingly thats all there is to it!!!!! :cool:

One thing which should be clear: you will have to change those things on the upper triple clamp that hold on the handle bars so you can keep your dash ;) .

I was also thinking, if you didn't want to weld on the frame, you could always weld on the lower triple clamp so it would work just like the stock SX stoppers, HMMM...

[mad_max]

Amazingly thats all there is to it!!!!! :cool:

One thing which should be clear: you will have to change those things on the upper triple clamp that hold on the handle bars so you can keep your dash ;) .

I was also thinking, if you didn't want to weld on the frame, you could always weld on the lower triple clamp so it would work just like the stock SX stoppers, HMMM...

Remember, the 250SX frame stop (at the junction of the steering head and frame down-tube) has to be cut off as the lower 200X tripple will hit it.

[straight pipe]

You are 100% correct Mad Max. That's what I had to do to mine. I grinded the origional sx frame stop off. and welded in the 200x stop are the only mods I had to do. If you weld in the 200x stop you may have to tap bolts on either side so that you can fine tune the steering stop. Other than that bolt in.

[Maine_Triker]

Remember, the 250SX frame stop (at the junction of the steering head and frame down-tube) has to be cut off as the lower 200X tripple will hit it.


Oh yeah... :rolleyes:

That's one bad part about the mod is that you have to change a good frame, but it's worth it. ;)

[pomona51]

I never had to cut off my old stop. My new stop was put on the front fo the neck, not behind it. I just needed one stop instead of two. IT worked out really well.

Here is a pic of were I put it. When you turn your wheel right, the left stop on your tripple hits the left side of the new stop. Max this is your pic

[Dirtcrasher]

The clamping bolt for the stem on the 200X lower triple in the rear hits the stock SX stop. Don't have any idea how you got away with it unless you have some other triple clamp.......


Don't forget kids, the hardest part of this whole conversion is finding a GOOD set of front brakes to run on the 200X front end. I must have bought 4 sets before I got all the pieces in rebuildable condition.

[straight pipe]

word up! i am still lookin for brakes too. i am consitering a parachute...more readily available.

[mad_max]

I never had to cut off my old stop....

Pomona, I cant figure out how you were able to use a 200X tripple without cutting the 250SX frame stop off. Heres close ups of both sides of mine... see the lower triple clamp to steering stem bolt that Dirtcrasher mentions above?
http://www.boomspeed.com/madmax66/Img_0025.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/madmax66/Img_0026.jpg
If I had not removed the stock SX frame stop the tripple would have contacted the frame stop at that point. If you have a similar pic of yours I'd like to see it.

[pomona51]

Max, my tripples are a little different then yours. Mine, on each side of the tripple has a little sqaure with a hole drilled on top ( It is stock for sure). When I mounted the new stop on the front those hit the little metal square hit the stop and keep it from hitting my tank.

[mad_max]

pomona, you are talking about the steering stop for the 200x front end...
what I'm talking about is the 250SX frame stop, in my pics below the magenta area once contained the stock 250sx frame stop (until I cut it off). If you have a pic of that area of yours I'd like to see it.

[pomona51]

Max, Sorry for the misunderstanding. My sx stop is still on there. I never had to take it off.

[mad_max]

No problem, you've got me really curious now as to what tripple you actually have on your SX... I'm pretty sure its not 83-85 200X because thats what mine is.

[pomona51]

When I bought my 200x front end off of ebay thats what was posted but that does not mean thats what it is. I will get a pic this weekend. I am up at college and hour a way from my house. It is really cool how it worked out!!!

[Dirtcrasher]

I'm betting it's an 86/87 200X. They have different stops than the 83/85 and may not have that clamping bolt in the back. Any 200X guys in on this thread?

[straight pipe]

that was my thought as well.

[Maine_Triker]

I'm betting it's an 86/87 200X. They have different stops than the 83/85 and may not have that clamping bolt in the back. Any 200X guys in on this thread?


Yeah, that is probably whats going on here.

EDIT 1: I found this pic in my collection of pics. Hard to see anything but it's the best pic I could find.

EDIT 2: WHOA!!!!! Guys there is a super easy way to find out what year it is.

The 83-85's had bolts for the fender near the outer part of the triple (like a 250r), the 86-87 had bolts for the fender near the center of the triple (like a 350X).

Phil

[pomona51]

I would guess that it is a 86-87 front end.

[Maine_Triker]

Here is the pic of pomona's:

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9754

Here is the pic I posted of an 86:

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9969

The 83-85 bolts for the fender are 7 1/2 inches apart (correct me if I'm wrong), the 86-87 bolts are more closer together.

Pomona's front end is off of an 83-85 (see how the fender bolts are far apart).

Pomona's therefore must have that bolt on the lower triple clamp.

In the pic I posted of the 86, you get a pretty good view of the area where the bolt would be. It is hard to see if there is a bolt tho.

PHEW.....

[pomona51]

Maine Triker, The front fender is off of my sx. I did not have any extra cash at the time so I used the older one form my sx. Sorry bro. I bolted it on through the holes were the light support / bracket goes.

[Maine_Triker]

Maine Triker, The front fender is off of my sx. I did not have any extra cash at the time so I used the older one form my sx. Sorry bro. I bolted it on through the holes were the light support / bracket goes.


AHHH... now that all makes sence. LOL. I thought that looked like a 250SX fender. You might want to consider keeping it on instead of putting a 200x one, IMO it looks better. ;)

Now, try to get some pics of your 'stopper configuration', once we see them we should be able to sort this out. :beer

Phil

[pomona51]

Will do maynard !!! LOL

[pomona51]

He is what my stops look like. Found this pic on ebay.

[mad_max]

OK, so if I'm following all this correctly then pamona's tripple IS from a 86/87 200X? Right?

And by looking at the pic of the tripple I see how the 86/87 would use a single stop on the front center of the steering head (basically the 86/87 200X stop is like the 250SX stop but moved to the steering head instead of the frame down-tube)

Cool :beer (now I can sleep at night)

[pomona51]

Right mad max. It was a really good thing that I have the 86 87 tripple because I was not looking forward to cutting into my frame.

[Maine_Triker]

Yup, that's an 86/87. Cool.


(now I can sleep at night)

Ah yes, with you on that one.

[Dirtcrasher]

Right mad max. It was a really good thing that I have the 86 87 tripple because I was not looking forward to cutting into my frame.

I wouldn't have sweat that anyhow... That stock stop is merely mig welded onto the SX frame tube and by grinding the welds down it smashes off with a hammer.

I just don't want to scare anyone else away from this lovely conversion!

[crd00]

ya i think I'm goin to do that with my SX eventually