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85200x
03-17-2005, 12:41 AM
This is prolly a stupid question but ah well who cares...why dont they make trikes anymore. I have heard that some idiot crashed and thought lets start a lawsuit on honda and then more people joined in and then they pulled the plug and decided to risky we dont want law suits. Thats like saying well people die in car crashes so lets not make cars anymore. Why dont they just put a sticker that say CAUTION: ATC are said to be more dangerous and unstable then other off-road vehicles rider rides at his/her own risk.

LonesomeTriZ
03-17-2005, 12:47 AM
The no longer make by beloved three wheelers any more because of the Federation of Mothers against Fun ****. That and people do not except responsibility for their own stupid behavior. :mad:

85200x
03-17-2005, 12:56 AM
I agree but hasnt anybody tried to get something together and talk to the head honchos of honda? I mean its peoples own stupid fault and trikes keep their value so well. So they would make a huge profit cause people like us love em

LonesomeTriZ
03-17-2005, 12:58 AM
Unfortunately, that is not how the real world works. :(

1984kxtTECATE
03-17-2005, 01:02 AM
Another thing to consider is back in the day many people didnt wear helmets or related saftey gear, so when injuries happened they were pretty bad.

straight pipe
03-17-2005, 01:20 AM
ya it would be cool to be able to buy new 05 trikes..but that would make our 250sx and 350x so on and so forth values drop. that is the one thing that keeps their dollar worth up is that they are not producing them anymore and what ever is out there ...that's it.

rustbucket
03-17-2005, 08:48 AM
One thing that I thought was funny is if I'm not mistaken we were the only country to ban them, most other places they sold till no one wanted them

Muddy200x
03-17-2005, 08:57 AM
For those who own a three wheeler and don't know the history, here it is.
http://www.bennettlawfirm.com/atv4.htm (http://)
And always wear your damn helmet!

That said... It would be cool if Honda or one of the other big name companys came out with a Limited addition sport trike. Maybe have the buyer sign a release form freeing them from being sewed should you die on it. Production of the trike would have already ended before another ban could be put in place. Highly doubtful it would ever happen, but wouldn't it be freaking awesome if it did? Just picture it. :wondering

:D We should petition Honda :D

TrikerR
03-17-2005, 09:29 AM
mate...u could get the whole damn world to sign a petition and honda still wouldnt make a new trike.

bigredhead
03-17-2005, 09:34 AM
IF they ever made a 2005 or so brand new ATC.. it would still cost at least 6000 $ or more and i still could'nt afford one !

So. argh.

Muddy200x
03-17-2005, 09:35 AM
Yea, I know. But it dosnt hurt to dream, petition thing was only a joke. sheesh :rolleyes:

Tri-ZNate
03-17-2005, 10:44 AM
Blame for these deaths and injuries should be fixed, in part, on the aggressive marketing program that Honda and the three other Japanese manufacturers (Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha) undertook.


Thank God ignorance isnt contagous.

Billy Golightly
03-17-2005, 11:00 AM
The problem is now-a-days no one has an interest in three-wheelers. Hell, I bet 90% of todays quad riders have never put more then an hours worth of seat time on a Trike, if that. There simply is no market for them, and there probably never will be. So get all you can while you can cause someday they are gonna be gone for good.

patblkwell
03-17-2005, 11:08 AM
I know that trikes were sold in other countries after they were banned here in the U.S. What was the last year that trikes were made for any country? I'm curious as to when Honda and the other companies stopped all production on trikes. I've seen pics of 1988 trikes, are there any '89 or '90's that were produced?

straight pipe
03-17-2005, 02:27 PM
hmmm....interestink!!

pomona51
03-17-2005, 04:06 PM
If you think about I bet 100 times more people die each year in car related deaths then people who ride recreation atv, atc, dirt bikes, etc... Some a** hole one day just decided that they wanted to piss a whole bunch of people off and ban trikes, it sucks. The thing I dont get is WHY DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT WE DO IN OUR OWN TIME!!. If we want to ride trikes why in the hell do they care. We should be able to ride what we want when we want and if some piece of s**t wants to get mad then dont be around the sport. Plane and simple.

LonesomeTriZ
03-17-2005, 04:23 PM
Okay, I think it is time to clarify something. TRIKES WERE NOT BANNED! Get that disgusting thought out of your heads and stop making it a habit to say and think. Trikes are still legal to own and operate. They simply stopped making them. Hell they still sold them in other countries after the agreement in the U.S. but the U.S. was the biggest market so do the math.

bigredhead
03-17-2005, 04:23 PM
It's because some parents lost their kids lives and feel very emotional about it, feel they need to " Make a change " and voila !

Example: If someone kicked my dog for no good readon.. i'd break his legs.

cause and effect.

patblkwell
03-17-2005, 04:26 PM
From what I know, it was a 10 year ban on SELLING the trikes in the US...I guess that applied to used trikes also..I bought my '87 big red from the used department of the honda dealer over here last year.

LonesomeTriZ
03-17-2005, 04:27 PM
If you think about I bet 100 times more people die each year in car related deaths then people who ride recreation atv, atc, dirt bikes, etc... Some a** hole one day just decided that they wanted to piss a whole bunch of people off and ban trikes, it sucks. The thing I dont get is WHY DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT WE DO IN OUR OWN TIME!!. If we want to ride trikes why in the hell do they care. We should be able to ride what we want when we want and if some piece of s**t wants to get mad then dont be around the sport. Plane and simple.


By the way according to the national survey, 41,000 Americans lose their lives on the streets and highways every year due to automotive related accidents.

Oldshell4481
03-17-2005, 04:45 PM
so the people that died took the survey???

LonesomeTriZ
03-17-2005, 04:48 PM
Of course, how else do you think they got recorded. Duh.

Oldshell4481
03-17-2005, 04:53 PM
lol es muy comico

Billy Golightly
03-17-2005, 06:20 PM
From what I know, it was a 10 year ban on SELLING the trikes in the US...I guess that applied to used trikes also..I bought my '87 big red from the used department of the honda dealer over here last year.


This is slightly mis-leading. The OEM's at the time which included Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki & Polaris (Tiger ATV was not on this list. This means a few things. Either #1, they denied it which I find unlikely. #2, they had already folded which doesn't make much sense since state records say it was in the early 90's when that happened, or #3 they were not big enough to be considered a threat with the CPSC). Anyways, back on topic, the OEMs signed an agreement saying they would not import or sell anymore three-wheelers into/in the US, and that they would send out all current and previous owners warning labels to affix to their three-wheelers, develop safety courses, and agree not to sell any ATV over a certain cc to children (Most of these are still in place today). The CPSC had full cooperation with the OEMs (to an extent anyways). Trikes were indeed sold in other parts of the world long after the consent decree was signed, and I believe some of them might have even been made after it was signed as well.

The bottom line is, IF someone would have wanted to use a loophole in the 1980's, they could have made a whole new startup company manufacturing trikes and selling them until the CPSC added a new clause to the consent decree. Someone new could have made trikes until the CPSC decided to drop the hammer on them (Which would have been really quick). Or atleast thats what I've got out of the doccuments I've read.

trikezilla
03-17-2005, 06:27 PM
For those who own a three wheeler and don't know the history, here it is.
http://www.bennettlawfirm.com/atv4.htm (http://)
And always wear your damn helmet!

That said... It would be cool if Honda or one of the other big name companys came out with a Limited addition sport trike. Maybe have the buyer sign a release form freeing them from being sewed should you die on it. Production of the trike would have already ended before another ban could be put in place. Highly doubtful it would ever happen, but wouldn't it be freaking awesome if it did? Just picture it. :wondering

:D We should petition Honda :D

(MINE IS KINDA LONG>>>BUT I THINK MOST WILL AGREE WITH WHAT I SAID)

OK that article:
1-thoroughly bored me with details that a monkey knows (i mean..ATV's, are small gasoline engine-powered recreational cycles with either three or four wheels that weigh between 200 and 500 pounds. They ride on large, balloon-like low pressurized tires NO KIDDING)

2-makes me mad because it swayed people who could care less about atc's to not like them

3- "Children under 12 are unable to operate any size ATV safely.
Children under 16 are at a greater risk when operating adult size ATV's (over 90-c.c.) due to poor judgment and failure to recognize and operate ATV's within their skill level." I could not disagree more....i have more 12 year old friends who cant safely operate a can opener . i would say many kids 16 and over do a fine job of handling atvs, and staying w/ in their abilities!!

4-the article mentions tv shows showing "...kids on their atvs blasting through the country side..." it makes it sound loke we were destroyng the planet. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD: my dad and his whole family would blast through the city neighbor hood on theirs (and the neighbors didnt care!!)

5-Honda's Attitude Toward ATC - It Was Safe! D@m* right...if you know what you are doing

6-
excerpt of Honda North America Manager Miyako, April-2, 1997

(a) "ATC was an excellent vehicle."

(b) "Safety, no question of safety, it was a very safe vehicle
thats what i like to hear!!

7-i guess honda tested a ATC 50....that would be a sweet lil machine. hey if they were made yet, that would give a new meaning to FAST 50's!!

8-its kinda dumb how HONDA was compared to RJ REYNOLDS....are they saying that honda was trying to kill people?? I AM NOT SAYING RJ REYNOLDS "KILLS PEOPLE" IF YOU SMOKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GREAT....KEEP EXCERCISING YOUR RIGHT!"

9-well i will maybe continue my complaining later

pomona51
03-17-2005, 08:03 PM
So TriZ that is a very good fact that you found. That is a lot of lives taken every year form car accidents.

I also should have clalifyed my self. I know that trikes were not banned they were just banned from selling them in the U.S.

85200x
03-17-2005, 11:30 PM
Well most people don't ride trikes or even give them a try because they have this thought implanted in their brain that they are very dangerous and thats why they stopped making them. It was a stroke of bad luck because when these people had these lawsuits a rider for honda crashed on a trike and was either paralyzed or REALLY BADLY INJURED then so the other honda riders decided to have a race to raise money for his hospital bill then one of the riders crashed and was paralyzed for life. ATCs are just as dangerous as anything else but crashed are caused by the rider not the bike unless they got some major structural flaws ( like something snapping etc) I think enough people still love trikes and more people would if they gave them a good try and it would be a good profit for honda,yamaha,kawasaki,suzuki

brapp
03-18-2005, 03:32 AM
oh well more for us!!! just gott akeep them outs e-gay happy hands!!!