just purchased a 1981 250r but..

[raptor]

but... it has the following

'THE SEAT IS MISSING THE PLASTICS ARE PRETTY POOR ,ONE TYRE IS PUNCTURED AND SECOND GEAR IS ABIT JUDDERY ,THE BACK BRAKE CYLINDER IS ALSO MISSING AND THE KICKSTART DOESN'T RETURN'


how easy to sort problems? and what could be causing the problems with 2nd gear?

[faf_racing]

sounds like work!!!! but can be done rebuild tranny find plastic, then recover seat. in that order wasting $$$$$ if you dont get it running first this is my 'opinion' .good luck!! stuck on you???? ( Lionel Richie what the H E double hockey stix is that)?????

[Tri-ZNate]

well some PB Blaster, Sockets, and a new motor :D

[Tri-ZNate]

Where is this R?

[raptor]

coming tuesday :D

Yes Lionel Richie, the song is called stuck on you.

If 2nd gear is juddery, cant i replace second gear? or is it best to buy a whole new bottom end?

also have spare plastics from maier and seat, and im bidding on some blaster tyres as there cheap - size 21/10/8 (i pray its 8 inch rim)

[Tri-ZNate]

you can replace the gear. My uncle had to do it on my grandpa's 125 Suzuki ALT.

[350x'inNY]

but... it has the following

THE BACK BRAKE CYLINDER IS ALSO MISSING



doesn't surprise me it's missing.... if it's a 81R, should have rear drum brakes :rolleyes:

Bruce

[raptor]

hmmmm, i wonder what he means then if back brake cylinder is missing...... maybe its disc? a one of ftrike lol?

ill find out tuesday for sure, he says it still runs and has done wheelies on it and said its quite hairy lol! some people are crazy

[faf_racing]

Alot of "R" are missing back brakes why? "racing" front brakes get you in a corner too turn hard plus too stop rear brakes slow you down. if u get an "R" with no rear brakes thats why. rear brakes slow you down

[raptor]

o right. didnt know that.

anyone know what i can do with the kick start? just replace it?? or can it be fixed?
also can i fix 2nd gear or do i need whole new bottom end?

[kando]

you can replace 2nd gear or shifting fork alone, you won't need a whole bottom end.

[raptor]

you can replace 2nd gear or shifting fork alone, you won't need a whole bottom end.

what parts will i be looking to order?

[raptor]

you can replace the gear. My uncle had to do it on my grandpa's 125 Suzuki ALT.

same as above

[kando]

Your going to have to tear it all apart first. you never know what else will be worn out in there, bearings should be replaced also if you have the money, I wouldn't want to take it all apart again over that.

[raptor]

i have my manual that should help then i have here!

[350x'inNY]

Sounds like it'd be a much better parts bike for your 82R, then one to fix up.

[raptor]

do you think that? is the problems that bad with it? is it not worth the try at fixing? or should i part the bike out and hope to get a bit of profit?

[MTS]

if you have a manuel, hell have at it! theres no better way to learn than to tear down a motor, i would personally fix it....just read your manuel how stuff should go back together ect ect it dosnt take long to have a bottem end apart on an R

[raptor]

do i need a flywheel tool?
also please see photos, i dont like it at all. its put me of my trike that is in the garage. UGLY and loads of problems....

what do you think?

[raptor]

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[raptor]

if pics dont work, right click and show picture

[Tri-ZNate]

How much did you pay for it? Was it in the $600 dollar range?

[raptor]

it cost me $500 inc the guy bringing it to me!
He didnt tell me everything about it so there was a few hidious finds.

up top of page is hwat he said was wrong with it, and theres more, the thumb throttle sticks a bit because the wire leaving it pulls out and gets stuck.. very dangrerous! also the bolt from the petrol tank is missing.. theres cracks in the bottom case as you can see in the pics, now i dunno how to fix this?

hes also carved his zip code in to some places on the trike incase it got stolen.

and a few other bits im not happy with...

where do i start!!?!

[raptor]

also i dunno what year it is.... i think 82. as bruce said 81 have drum brakes.... theres no tag on the forks saying model..

[350x'inNY]

REAR drums..... front is disc on both, and your front disc looks like an 81R along with your rear tank connection. The year is usually on the right stearing stem. Also, see if there's air scoops on the frame by the steaering stem... there were on 82R, not on 81R.

$500? Yikes..... I paid $650 for my 82R... all complete with extra tire/rims, extra front and rear plastics (OEM... had brand new Maier on it), fresh rebuild, silencer packing, and air filter! Oh... plus a bunch of extra 83-84R parts... and an extrra parts motor I picked up later for $50!!! :beer

[Yardbird]

Well if you decide to part it out let me know. Or start posting the parts on E-bay. I will definately get you started on making some of your money back. I'll buy the exhaust, front brake rotor and airbox/filter off ya. Probably even more parts because I'm still going through my '81 R. Luckily mine still has the rear brake drum on it and it works! $500 bucks....DOH! It looks like you got some rear tires off an '85 or 86 250R and some good ole homemade wiring too boot. I see you're from Springfield but no state in your signature.....Illinois?

[Wickedfinger]

Thats definately an '82 .... you can tell from the airbox, rear snorkle intake built into the frame, and the airscoops at the neck, let alone from the rear disk brake. Also, looks like it has an '83 or '84 (hopefully an '84 because of the better porting and higher compression) because of the black paint on the jug. If you were going to pick an engine for your first rebuild - I couldn't think of anything better than an early R or Blaster motor ........

[350x'inNY]

Oops... didn't see the rear axle pic.

Bruce

[Wickedfinger]

..... man, those forks are bent to crap too I see .....

[Lomax]

Looks pretty rough, I cant say that I would fis it myself but I dont think there would be a better machine to lean some mechanical skills on that whats in front of you

[Yardbird]

Yeah I agree that's it an '82. Just went and compared the swinger on my '81 which has the drum brake and the '82 which has the disc. Yours is an '82 unless someone swapped out the swinger on it previously. Look on the steering stem for the year sticker if it's still got it. But I guess it really doesn't matter because you got some work ahead of ya. I would agree with My trike Sucks, 350x'inNY and Lomax that it's a great machine to learn and work on. :cool:

[hondatrikesrule22]

it cost me $500 inc the guy bringing it to me!
He didnt tell me everything about it so there was a few hidious finds.

up top of page is hwat he said was wrong with it, and theres more, the thumb throttle sticks a bit because the wire leaving it pulls out and gets stuck.. very dangrerous! also the bolt from the petrol tank is missing.. theres cracks in the bottom case as you can see in the pics, now i dunno how to fix this?

hes also carved his zip code in to some places on the trike incase it got stolen.

and a few other bits im not happy with...

where do i start!!?!


The first thing to do would be thoughly cleaning EVERYTHING.Then grease all the cables and bearings. Then look at what you have to work with. Tackle each problem ONE at a time.

[raptor]

ive sold it! couldnt be bothered. to much hassle! most bolts i took out where all oily and gunky and rusted! not worth it

[350x'inNY]

Did you sell it to someone on the board or where? I might use a couple parts off it. :naughty:

Bruce

[raptor]

some boy local. said its going to be his project. lost $70 but owell.
Hes got some fun times to come