few ???

[bigb9582]

as u all know im a newb to trikes. so i need to ask a few ???. i own a 86 200s and a 85 250sx. im gonna give them a good tune up and oil change and a few other things.
1. how much oil does each one hold? and do they have oil filters? if so were?
2. what kind of spark plugs? gap size?
3. any thing else for tune up? (plug wire, carb cleaner, etc)
4. does honda still make brake pads for them? if so how much?
5. does Honda still carry new plastic for them? if so how much?

im asking u guys because my local honda dealer is a bunch of a-holes that dont want to talk to u unless trailprotrailpro buying a new machine and i want to talk to them as little as possible. any help? thanx

[LonesomeTriZ]

I do not run Hondas any more but I thinkI can help with some of your questions. First off yes they do ahve oil filters. I do not know where it is on the SX but on the 200X it is on the side where the oil drain is. It is a big round plug. If you need parts or break downs to find them check out bike bandit or powersports. You can access their microfich on line and see where everything goes. Oh yeah, I do know Handa still has platsic for the 200S. I bought new OEM for mine when I had it. By the way :welcome:

[BIGCRIP28]

i dont think the 200s has a filter. they hold 1-2 quarts of oil.

[LonesomeTriZ]

It is not a replacable filter. It is more like a sreen. I am sorry, I should have clarified.

[trikezilla]

no offense, but I think you should get an owners manual...you will find the answers to most of your questions right in there...LOL, i have found out, its alot easier looking it up than asking on here. NO DOUBT these guys on here are great, but i like to usually eliminate a step if i can get the same results...WELCOME!!!!

There are many companies that make brake pads...try EBC, they might have them (EBC.COM) as far as plastics go: if you gat them from honda they are really spendy...maier makes great stuff IMO, and they are "kinda" cheap.....chep in price, not quality

[canadiandevil2]

ya EBC makes pads fo them. I had to go get a set of pads for my 200M and one for ay buddies 185. i think the pads are the same for the 200m or 200s

[bigb9582]

cool thanx for the replys.

[Dammit!]

DEFINITELY get a service manual (a service manual and an owners manual are NOT the same thing by the way! The poster above meant service manual). It's the best $35 you will ever spend on those trikes.

[Tri-ZNate]

1. how much oil does each one hold? and do they have oil filters? if so were?
2. what kind of spark plugs? gap size?
3. any thing else for tune up? (plug wire, carb cleaner, etc)
4. does honda still make brake pads for them? if so how much?
5. does Honda still carry new plastic for them? if so how much?


Now all this applies for the Sx I'm not sure about the other

1. 2.2 quarts, yes it is on the right side (when your sitting on it). its a little black piece that has 3 or 4 bolts holding it on. take that off pull the old out and put the new in.
2. DR8ES-L (NGK), X24ESR-U (ND), gap is .6-.7 mm or .024-.028 in.
3. clean the carb and clean you muffler (unscrew the spark arrestor from the bottom of the muffler, its on the end toward the rear, give it some revs for about 20 secs then put the spark arrestor back on, if it breaks off because of its age dont wory it sounds better off anyway with it off).
4.Yeah about $21.00 bucks for a good pair
5. Yeah about $110 for rear and $49 for front.


P.S. most of this can be found on denniskirk.com or rockymountainatv.com.

Attached is a pic of the spark arrestor, couldnt find one of the oil filter location.

[bigb9582]

does it cover all honda trikes? or just specific models (does each model have its own book). and were to buy?
i was searching around and found that the sx should have sae80w gear oil in the axle. is that right or should it have thinner oil?

[Tri-ZNate]

does it cover all honda trikes? or just specific models (does each model have its own book). and were to buy?
i was searching around and found that the sx should have sae80w gear oil in the axle. is that right or should it have thinner oil?


Each trike has its own book. as well as 4 wheelers and dirt bikes. The gear oil according to my manual to use is HYPOID GEAR OIL SAE80. so yeah sae80 is what you use. You can buy a manual at https://www.primediabooks.com/Products.asp?GRPID=1 for a clymer manual or a bunch of other places. you need on for an ATC 250 and one for an ATC 200

[bigb9582]

cool thanx.
so it will sound better will the arrester off? because the 200s has a deaper louder sound than the 250sx. so im thinking that the 200s is missing it.
and thanx everyone for helping me.

[Tri-ZNate]

it just makes it sound deeper and yes louder. Taking to air box cover of is a nice modification too.

[Wickedfinger]

they hold 1-2 quarts of oil. ... well that narrows it down.

[bigb9582]

ive been searching on here and i think im going to put in two bottles of amsoil injecture cleaner in the gas and if that doesnt work im going to take my carb off the 250sx and clean it because i got some idling probs. sometime it will idle fine and sometimes it wont idle unless im giving it gas, but it runs great when im riding. now should i get a carb rebuild kit or just use my old carb stuff? im asking because i seen some people say the moose kit is crap and some say it isnt.

[Tri-ZNate]

float is probably just stickin. Clean that and it should fix your prob

[wheelie king]

1-2?.....Wicked said what I was thinking.

My experience is that my 84 200s drinks about 1.7 quarts with a filter change.

Use NGK DR8ES-L for your sparky.

DO NOT waste your time and $ with your average off the shelf carb cleaner. Go to a boating/marine store and get marine grade carb cleaner for outboard motors. I use Mercury Marine "Power Tune" . The sh*t is crazy- It is like $7 a can, but I tell you it is worth it. It foams up and expands, and pennetrates like you would not believe. It's like that foaming insulation stuff that expands into all nooks and crannys. I would remove the carb and do it, fuel hoses and all. But either way, it will definitely clean your carb out wonderfully.

If you must use a fuel system treatment, I like Lucas Fuel System Treatment. It says "tune up in a bottle" and all that fun stuff. I have put it in my quads that sat at a hunting lease for 6 months out of the year, and I was never disappointed.

Remove the airbox cover for a little more oomph. It is the best "seat of the pants" upgrade, I think (especially for the $....$0.00!!!). Leave your arrestor alone. Modifying exhaust will give you huge sound increase, but no great power increase.

Good luck!

[honda200]

for cleaning carbs, i use just regular off the shelf carb cleaner, take the float bowl off, and pour half full and then attach it back to the carb itself, no jets in the carb, and then i run a line to the gas intake and run carb cleaner through it, and carb cleaner down every other jet, tip the carb upside down in a empty bucket, and let it slowly seep out the top and sides, then i take it apart and thoroughley clean everything with a very thin wire for cleaning out jet holes, then i let everything soak in carb cleaner in a clean bucket for 2 or 3 hours, then assemble everything again, and set it back up, never had to take a carb off twice ;)

Curtis

[Howdy]

My experience is that my 84 200s drinks about 1.7 quarts with a filter change.


You must really over fill your crankcase if you use 1.7 quarts in a 200s.

The correct 200s info is: Oil capacity is Aprox 1 quart, there is a oil filter rotor inside the motor. Without going into too much detail: To clean it you need to remove the right side cover ( clutch cover ). Once the cover is removed you will see 3 bolts holding a housing on the end of the crank. Remove those 3 bolts and pull the housing off. That housing is the Oil filter rotor. Clean the inside of the rotor with a good cleaner and scrape out any sludge that is stuck in there. Clean the surface that it mounts to also. Re-install everything and then add oil to the motor. Start with 3/4 quart and check it. Then keep adding little by little until it's at the mark on the dip stick.
NOTE: You may already know this, but I will post it any how: When checking the oil on any Honda atv you do not screw in the dip stick when checking the oil. If you check it with the dip stick screwed in you will not have the proper amount of oil in it. ;)

Howdy

[straight pipe]

if you can tear down your carb without ripping anything than i would reuse the old seals. usually works fine.sounds like the carb can use a good bath. my sx was doing the same last year until i cleaned it. now it's good.tearing the carb down is or should be yearly tune up thing , esspecially if you ride aollt IMO.

[mikey's250sx]

if you have no experience with servicing your own machine i would take the sx to a dealer or shop and have them clean the carb for you. you can do some very small things that will let your trike never run. where in pa are you? i am in lancaster and there is a great shop and 2 good dealers near me. it doesn't have to be a honda dealer either, any motorcycle shop can help.
and check ebay for a service manual. i got one for 22 bucks for my sx. just make sure it is a manual some people try yo sell cd's instead of the books.

[mikey's250sx]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=383&item=7110560623&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

[bigredhead]

Your best bet for the carb.. is try to find someone you know who " knows what they are doing " .. not just any monkey.. but someone who actually knows their stuff.. and get them to show you the proper steps to follow.. it's not rocket science. but like mikey said above, tiny changes, can make a big difference.

Your SX has a replacable oil filter, right side, behind plastic cover, the plastic cover can stay on.. don't bother removing it, but just take the 3 x 8mm bolts off the cover and there it is.. " DON'T LOOSE THE SPRING BEHIND IT !! "

your S has a screen filter under the drain plug.

Your SX will take a whole 3 quarts if the cases are split, but on a change it will take a little over 2 . When you remove the drain plug and filter, let is drain, then make sure the key if on the OFF position and kick it over a few times.. more oil will come out !

[bigb9582]

where in pa are you?

i live in the fayetteville/chambersburg area.


as for the carb im probly going to have to do it myself because i dont know anyone that works on them

[bigb9582]

has anyone ever used seafoam in there trikes? ive used it in my car to clean the intake manifolds and it worked really well. its supossed to clean carb/injecture really good to. i was thinking about adding two cans of it into the gas of my 250sx to see if it works before i tear the carb off. any thoughts? do u think two cans will hurt it or should i just add one?

almost forgot the link---click here (http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm)

[wheelie king]

Howdy,

Thank you for the correction! I was thinking of one of my previous yammie trikes I guess. We were talking trikes at work and I thought about that previous post, and thought, oh crap! I hope that guy did not put damn near 2 quarts in that atc!

THE CORRECT INFO IS that my atc takes 1.1 quarts after a full drain. Sorry for the confusion, and thanks to Howdy for pulling my head from my arse.

Bigb- I tell you, forget the seafoam- that Lucas Fuel System Treatment works wonders. I use only 1/4 of a bottle in 2 gals of premium gas.

[bigb9582]

over the week end i put a can of the seafoam in the 250sx and all i gotto say is wow. about 1/4 way through the tank of gas the trike started runnin alot better. it started getting realy snappy in the throttle instead of the normal bogging fealing it had. and started idleing a lot better to. after a full weekends worth of riding the 250sx seems to run like its brand new. i had to turn the idle way down because i had it turned up a good bit to try help with the idle before. it just pulls so much harder through the gears now. next week end im goin to put a can in the 200s just to clean it out a little to.
before u guys pull the carb to clean it try running a can of seafoam in it. $6.00 well spent. plus it saved me the hasle of pullin the carb and rippin it apart.

[83185s]

1. how much oil does each one hold? and do they have oil filters? if so were?
3. any thing else for tune up? (plug wire, carb cleaner, etc)
4. does honda still make brake pads for them? if so how much?
5. does Honda still carry new plastic for them? if so how much?

im asking u guys because my local honda dealer is a bunch of a-holes that dont want to talk to u unless trailprotrailpro buying a new machine and i want to talk to them as little as possible. any help? thanx[/QUOTE]

i hear u on that one about the dealer not talkin to u unless trailprotrailpro buyin somthing new...the 200s has an oil screen..not filter..its a little metal screen..they hold 1 1/2 quarts of oil...it get brake pads from the company called BRAKING..they are cheap and the same thing as most others that are more expensive..they plastics i think you can only get from maier now..the plug..ngk dr8es-L..the wire or cap-ngk..id use that bel-ray thumper oil if you have no leaks anywhere..its around 5-10 dollars depending on where u get it..its good stuff..the oil screen is right under your pullstarter..its the one that looks like the valve cover caps..its the same size also..be carefull there is a spring in there to that may shoot it out if u arent payin attention..hope this helps :beer

[sinner669]

ok looking for the carb kit i found a really good site http://dratv.stores.yahoo.net/atvpartsaccess.html

thats where i got my throttle cable and carb kit and my 85 250 sx is running great

the idle issue could be due to the throttle cable that was my problem
and get the manual the 250 sx and 200 are in the same book and it helps it runs around 25 bucks