let me ask a few things

[raptor]

Hi guys and gals. right ive seen alot of mixed opinios on this board and would like to get things cleared up and straght!

1. Best way to brake a 1982 250r engine in?
2. whats the best oil and what kind to go in the engine?
3. whats the best mix for oil with gas? 300ml to 4 litres?
4. jetting... if its warm my trike will start easy with its current jet setting. and if its cold it will be harder?

cant think of nothing else. so post opinons!
thanks :TrikesOwn

[Tri-ZNate]

2. whats the best oil and what kind to go in the engine?


For colder weather I run 10w-40. For the summer I run 10w-30. I dont know the brand but go to where you buy oil and get some nice expensive stuff. Then you know its good (or atleast it should be).

[1984kxtTECATE]

I use HP2 synthetic racing oil for my tecate, seems to work good I run a 32:1 fuel mixture so for every 4 gallons of gas you add one quart of the HP2. There is going to be a lot of differing opinions about this, but this is what i have used from the day i bought my trike, HP2 is also a Honda product

[250RNUT]

This may differ from other peoples break in but what I do after top end build is ride around untill motor is at temp w/o kicking in powerband.When it reaches full temp stop and let cool down COMPLETELY. when it cools down start the process again for 3-4 times total. Hope this helps

[Maine_Triker]

for oil I run TRC (Texas refinery corperation) in all my trikes, cars, lawnmowers, and whatever. it is perfect for super long engine life, and it will actually clean a dirty and damaged engine!!! Only set back it's like 4 times the price of regular oil. As far as two strokes i donno since all i got is 4 strokes.:)

[Lots_Of_Nothing]

Hi guys and gals. right ive seen alot of mixed opinios on this board and would like to get things cleared up and straght!

1. Best way to brake a 1982 250r engine in?
2. whats the best oil and what kind to go in the engine?
3. whats the best mix for oil with gas? 300ml to 4 litres?
4. jetting... if its warm my trike will start easy with its current jet setting. and if its cold it will be harder?

cant think of nothing else. so post opinons!
thanks :TrikesOwn

1 - Start it and ride it like you plan to, after awhile shut it down and check the bolts, then thats it.. If something is going to break it will break as soon as it starts.
2 - There is ALOT of good oil, its all personal preference, some people swear by klotz, other blue marble, I personally like Amsoil, but anything will work.,, In the tranny I run 10w30 amsoil year round, some people run thinner oil in the winter for easier starting, but good oil (such as amsoil) is formulated for easier starting in all weather, and to resist thickening in colder temperatures.
3 - All depends on how you jet. I run nice fat mains with a 50:1 mixture.
4 - Do a plug check and see where you are at.

[TravEX]

1. Best way to brake a 1982 250r engine in?



here's a mechanics theory that i came across several monthes ago,,,

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

[Huffa]

For colder weather I run 10w-40. For the summer I run 10w-30. I dont know the brand but go to where you buy oil and get some nice expensive stuff. Then you know its good (or atleast it should be).

You have the climates or the oils reversed.

Should be 10W40 for summer and 10W30 in winter.

Don't use a energy conserving oil or synthetic in the motor , it will cause your clutch to slip! You can use almost any oil other then that just make sure to change at freqent intervals. It doesn't have to cost alot to give proper lubrication.

[MTS]

You have the climates or the oils reversed.

Should be 10W40 for summer and 10W30 in winter.

Don't use a energy conserving oil or synthetic in the motor , it will cause your clutch to slip! You can use almost any oil other then that just make sure to change at freqent intervals. It doesn't have to cost alot to give proper lubrication.
im gona have to say your wrong on the synthtic oils, i use them, they work great, no clutch problems ;) :D :beer :TrikesOwn

[350x'inNY]

I bought the tranny/crank oil at Honda. Said it was specially formulated for all 'R' 2-stroke motors.

Bruce

[grundlegrabber]

I agree with 1984kxtTecate on the HP2 2-stroke oil mix. I've always used that oil mixed 32:1 in my 2 strokes and it works great.

[Tri-ZNate]

Don't use a energy conserving oil or synthetic in the motor , it will cause your clutch to slip![/B]

Your supposed to run synthetic in SXs at least. if you dont the clutch will slip.

[83185s]

BEL-RAY! BEL-RAY lol..cant u use that for 2 strokes also? its dam good in 4 strokers!!

[350x'inNY]

Your supposed to run synthetic in SXs at least. if you dont the clutch will slip.

Nope... backwards... synthetics have "super" lubricants in simple terms.... don't you have "friction" plates in your clutches? So....

"super" lubricant + friction plates = slipping clutches

Bruce

[MTS]

Nope... backwards... synthetics have "super" lubricants in simple terms.... don't you have "friction" plates in your clutches? So....

"super" lubricant + friction plates = slipping clutches

Bruce
yes i agree they will slip, suposedly, but i havent had any problems with mine, i use AMS-OIL 0w-40w full synthtic 4 stroke oil....says right on the bottel for use in wet clutch atv's...works great and it makes the bike 10 times easier to start in -30 weather, mind you this is a 4 stroke, with a 2 stroke starting wont haven any effect on it ;)

[350x'inNY]

says right on the bottel for use in wet clutch atv's...works great and it makes the bike 10 times easier to start in -30 weather, mind you this is a 4 stroke, with a 2 stroke starting wont haven any effect on it ;)

well.... that's a different story! Synthetic car motor oil is what I am talking about. Has friction modifiers in it. That would be the bad stuff for clutches.

Bruce

[MTS]

ah yes, the friction motifiers, i just thought everyone knew not to use the oils that have them in there for bikes? meh whatever :P

[350x'inNY]

well... we got a lot of newbies on here.... can't assume much these days!

[raptor]

Thanks for all your posts guys! ive been buying texaco synthetic 10w-30w from walmart.. i dont suppose this is any good? will any motorbike oil do? aslong as its for wet clutch?

So if my trike is wet clutch i dont need the clutch when changing 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,4th,3rd,2nd,1st ?

[Huffa]

well.... that's a different story! Synthetic car motor oil is what I am talking about. Has friction modifiers in it. That would be the bad stuff for clutches.

Bruce

I was just about to post the same thing.

[Huffa]

An oil with this label (circle) on with NO "energy conserving" print in the bottom 1/2 is fine for trannies. All oils have this label or at least should. This is exactly how it should look for oil that you CAN use.

[TimSr]

Ive never had a problem running any off the shelf automotive oil, synthetic or otherwise in a 2 stroke bottom end. Synthetics dont necessarily lube better. They last longer before breaking down, and breaking down is a chemical process from combustion byproducts, something you dont get in a two stroke. So there are no real benefits to running synthetics in a two stroke case, but its wont cause any problems either.

Ive got a simple question for everyone who feels that better quality oil counteracts the benefits of "friction" plates. What is the purpose of the oil your clutch is bathing in? If you understand the answer to that question, the real purpose of teh oil, it is easy to conclude that the better your clutch is lubricated, the less likely it is to slip.

If anybody really cares why this is so, Ill be happy to explain it, but its usually one of those topics where everybody has their mind made up, so Im not going to twist anybodys arm to see it my way. Ill simply challenge them to get the years and years of slip free sevice I get from a clutch.

[raptor]

my honda dealer said synetic oil is fine to run. and will cause no clutch problems. he also said use 10w-40w all year round. and the other think i dont get is he said to 4 litres put 100cc of oil... i dont get the 100cc. i know its 25cc to a litre but what is cc?!