82R powervalved?

[raptor]

Sorry if its already been posted. but is the 1982R powervalved? i can feel something kicking powerful when riding... :wondering lol

[Huffa]

No power valve at all. Thats just the type of powerband it has.

[raptor]

ah right. i thought i could feel something kicking in. is it powerbanded in all gears?

[short4stuff]

ah right. i thought i could feel something kicking in. is it powerbanded in all gears?

O yeah it is! .. If you look on ebay you can find new bands once in a while .. they will give you a real boost!!!

[raptor]

does it matter which year i choose or does it have to be 81-84 air cooled

[200xman]

I think the power bands are the same for all years. Just make sure you get a genuine Honda one. The aftermarket ones don't last.

[raptor]

Thanks.
I thought if you have powerbands you need a power valve. as its a sudden burst of engery???? :wondering :wondering :wondering

[BLAZERONE22]

Someone mentioned on another post that they were making them out of carbon fiber now for the aircoolers.

[JLurch58]

Boyson.. is making carbon fiber...they aren't cheap, mine were 54 bucks, but make a hell of a difference. Made my 83 R run like a raped ape.

[LonesomeTriZ]

Is there anything like that available for the Yamaha's?

[Mr. Sandman]

Powerbands are available for all trikes, quads and even dirt bikes, you've just got to make sure they're not adjusted too tight. Don't go with the old rubber ones though as they are too restricting and dry rot quickly. The new carbon fibers are good but the billet aluminum are best, plus they can be highly polished. A good rule of thumb is 1 powerband for every 50cc's of displacement for the best burst of top end energy. :welcome:

[LonesomeTriZ]

That is some good information. I was not aware there were some meany aftermarket variations. Who carries them?

[Mr. Sandman]

I've seen them on ebay but those are usually the counterfeit imports. It's best to get the OEM ones. Just go down to your dealer and ask for them for your particular make and model. They're usually on the shelf next to the 2 stroke smoke shifters.

[LonesomeTriZ]

thanks for the information. I will have to ask my parts guy about that. See if that will add a little extra bite to my Z.

[speed20]

As Funny as this may seem to some people.....other people may believe you (obviously some have already) and think they know what they are talking about....but in reality, all they are doing is making arses out of themselves. Just give this person a break...geez.

[atczack]

You guy's are horrible! lol

[hondaATCman]

LOL!!! Hahahaa!! :D :D I can't stop laughing. I feel sorry for the poor guys now, they are searching all over the place for new powerbands. LOL

I'll give you a hint. "The" powerband is not a product. :p

[LonesomeTriZ]

As Funny as this may seem to some people.....other people may believe you (obviously some have already) and think they know what they are talking about....but in reality, all they are doing is making arses out of themselves. Just give this person a break...geez.

Now why did you have to go and ruin it? ;)

[raptor]

lol. wheres this post gone... intresting! :D

[raptor]

As Funny as this may seem to some people.....other people may believe you (obviously some have already) and think they know what they are talking about....but in reality, all they are doing is making arses out of themselves. Just give this person a break...geez.

whos this to? :wondering

[speed20]

put yourself in that persons place....You go to a shop to "buy" a powerband, and they laugh at you....which makes you seem like a complete idiot. Would you like to be the idiot? I didnt think so. and for two, it would have ( and may still) get way out of hand, and this is not what this site is for. THAT'S why i ruined it. :)

And to answer your question raptor. That is to all the people who believed or thought that you could "buy" a powerband (and believe me.....there are still people out there that believe this im sure), and to tell them that a powerband cannot be bought, and it is a mixture of quite a few things that make the "powerband"

[raptor]

so a powerband is just the sudden burst of engery.

you cant buy engery... right?

[84250r]

To bad these people have to much FREE time.

[83185s]

uhm.,this is a stupid ? but can u get those powerbands for 4 strokes also?? i didnt think u could..i thought it was only the 2 strokers that can use them

[short4stuff]

Sorry guys I started it .. but lets get TimSR or somebody else knowledgeable to explain what the "powerband" is .. and how it works .... I can't explain it myself.

[83185s]

ah i guess i shoudve read the second page befor replying..lol

[Trikeaholic]

THis is toooooooooooooo funny. I cant stop laughing. Call your local bike shop and ask them if they have any powerbands in stock. Just dont tell them its for a 3 wheeler, we are made fun of enough already without you knuckleheads adding fuel to the fire. Tell them its for an 80 cc MX bike.

[trimoto55]

u cant buy a different powerband haha what you guys r reffering to is called a power reed...there is noo such thing as buying a different power band haha

[raptor]

Powerband:

a fierce and sudden power delivery that often characterizes two stroke motorcycles.
an rpm range in which the resonance of gasses in the expansion chamber causes maximal power output.
Who needs Air Miles when you've got powerband?

[BLAZERONE22]

Powerband:

a fierce and sudden power delivery that often characterizes two stroke motorcycles.
an rpm range in which the resonance of gasses in the expansion chamber causes maximal power output.
Who needs Air Miles when you've got powerband?

Well I guess snipe hunting is out of the question! lol

It was all in good fun, I know I enjoyed it. some people need not take things so seriously, I'm sure everyones looked dumb more than one time. Not that the intial question was a dumb one. Heck I think if we go back a couple years in threads I asked the question.


Here's my definetion of a powerband:

2-stroke motors have what we call a “powerband.” This powerband is like an extra boost at the end of the gear. So when you are revving your bike (higher RPMs in a gear) the powerband will kick in.

[Trikeaholic]

actually, all engines have a "powerband" all it is is the point in the RPM range where the engine makes the most power. It is most noticeable on a 2 stroke, because they tend to make ALOT of power at a specific narrow RPM range, and it hits hard, due to the fast revving nature of the 2 stroke motor.

[LonesomeTriZ]

put yourself in that persons place....You go to a shop to "buy" a powerband, and they laugh at you....which makes you seem like a complete idiot. Would you like to be the idiot? I didnt think so. and for two, it would have ( and may still) get way out of hand, and this is not what this site is for. THAT'S why i ruined it. :)

And to answer your question raptor. That is to all the people who believed or thought that you could "buy" a powerband (and believe me.....there are still people out there that believe this im sure), and to tell them that a powerband cannot be bought, and it is a mixture of quite a few things that make the "powerband"

I would have to agree. This site is for preserving trikes and to do that the younger crowd has to take an interest. If we send guys to the parts counter and they get laughed at that will put a bad task in their mouth and they will relate trikes with getting laughed at. :( So I will no longer try to take advantage of some one's ignorance. :) Instaed, I will make a real effort to help out in nay way I can. :beer

[resto250r]

hahahahahhahahaha..... I laughed my ass off that was some funny trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro. No hard feelins raptor or anyone else that belived you could buy a powerband.

[Mr. Sandman]

Life lesson #1 - Get over it!
Life lesson #2 - Don't believe everything you read or hear.
Life lesson #3 - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid.

[Dammit!]

Life lesson #3 - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid.

I'm old and stupid. I must have screwed up somewhere... :D

[Yamahammer490]

I must admit that I laughed like crazy for a while over this - and almost wanted to tell the poor guy to make sure to purchase the appropriate left or right-handed model and make sure it was metric instead of inch...

Anyhow, here's my try: Two strokes have a more pronounced "surge" because of the flow dynamics that make them work. Whereas a four stroke engine simply "pumps" air/fuel in exhaust out, a two stroke is much more complex from a flow standpoint.

In a two stroke the air/fuel is being sucked in while the exhaust is simultaneously being pushed out. This process is managed by the reed valves, port sizes and shapes, and the exhaust pipe itself. For most of the rev range the process is somewhat inefficient and out of balance but at a certain point, usually 3/4 throttle or so, all of the flow dynamics match up and magic happens. Sometimes this is called "coming on the pipe."

This is also why adding a pipe to a two stroke has a greater impact on power characteristics than on a four stroke.

[Red Rider]

I'm old and stupid. I must have screwed up somewhere... :D
Ahhhh, but having the ability to realize that you're stupid is what really makes you smart, and puts you on the path to recovery. A lot of people go through life being about as smart as a toolbox and never know it.

[Red Rider]

Sorry if its already been posted. but is the 1982R powervalved? i can feel something kicking powerful when riding... :wondering lol
Actually, one of the main purposes of powervalves is to smooth out & broaden the power delivery of a 2 stroke engine. That way there is more usable power throughout the RPM range, instead of a narrow burst of power.

[LonesomeTriZ]

Ahhhh, but having the ability to realize that you're stupid is what really makes you smart, and puts you on the path to recovery. A lot of people go through life being about as smart as a toolbox and never know it.


Actually a toll box is use full, a stupid person is not. So that would not be a fair comparison. :D

[Red Rider]

Lonesome, that was a good point that you brought up. ;)


put yourself in that persons place....You go to a shop to "buy" a powerband, and they laugh at you....which makes you seem like a complete idiot. Would you like to be the idiot?
No, I would not want to be that person , but I would like to be there in person to witness the parts guy's reaction. :D

[LonesomeTriZ]

Unfortunaty true though.

[Wickedfinger]

The only thing "Flowing" through this post is ALOT of bad info.