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twgranger
12-22-2004, 09:50 AM
How do i remove the gold finish from my front rim? paint stripper? I want it to match my back wheels

03 ORANGE SHEE
12-22-2004, 06:08 PM
you can buy one of mine for $40, that will be polished not gold :naughty:

gasmask
12-22-2004, 07:56 PM
i would like to know to! how do you remove the gold color from the rim? mine 250r & 500r...

Trikeaholic
12-22-2004, 08:01 PM
just buy a dam douglas rim, what is the freakin fascination with shade tree mechanic cob jobs these days. maybe someone needs a factory rim, juet sell the darn thing, spend $70 and get a better, stronger polished aluminum wheel!

mbg75
12-22-2004, 08:19 PM
easy-off brand oven cleaner. the original one thats caustic (with lye). wear rubber gloves, spray it on heavy, let it soak in and scrub off the gold with steel wool or a SOS pad. you'll have to repeat it a few times to get it all off.
then follow up by washing, compounding, and polishing the rim.

however, like everyone said, it's alot easier to just buy a new rim.

BLAZERONE22
12-22-2004, 08:20 PM
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You can sandblast if off. and start sanding, and polishing. Lots of work, I think the 70 bucks is well spent.

Derrick Adams
12-23-2004, 12:00 AM
I wasn't aware Douglas made a front rim for the Tri-Z. I could have sworn I asked at Dennis Kirk and they were unavailable.

Trikeaholic, did you buy one for yours?

I sandblasted the gold off the R rims with mild abrasive, and i'm polishing them out now.

mywifeknowseverything
12-23-2004, 08:47 AM
I am also under the impression that the Front is Not Available.. :wondering

Trikeaholic
12-23-2004, 09:10 AM
I would call Them. Why would that rim be so different it size than an R front rim? Possibly the hub would not fit? IDK. Never tried to get one for a Z, but I did get one for my 83 R easy enough.

twgranger
12-23-2004, 09:13 AM
just buy a dam douglas rim, what is the freakin fascination with shade tree mechanic cob jobs these days. maybe someone needs a factory rim, juet sell the darn thing, spend $70 and get a better, stronger polished aluminum wheel!
you let me know when you find a new one for my Z!! i looked and found nothing. ok? :rolleyes:

mywifeknowseverything
12-23-2004, 09:18 AM
I would call Them. Why would that rim be so different it size than an R front rim? Possibly the hub would not fit? IDK. Never tried to get one for a Z, but I did get one for my 83 R easy enough.

12in Front Rim....No one makes it....There is a person that I have been in contact with that will make one custom....Over 100 bucks though...
TW.....I say start Rubbin.... :naughty:

a-camp
12-23-2004, 09:34 AM
Full circle ha ???

Jeb
12-23-2004, 09:37 AM
Didn't the black and red 85 Tri-Z have silver rims?

bigredhead
12-23-2004, 09:51 AM
i'd say sand blast !

a-camp
12-23-2004, 09:56 AM
Or glass bead and clear coat.

bigredhead
12-23-2004, 09:58 AM
Glass bead ? what's that about ?

Blown 331
12-23-2004, 10:01 AM
Glass bead ? what's that about ?

Just like sand blasting but you use crushed glass instead. My dad has a blasting cabinet. He has glass beads, plastic, walnut shells, sand and I think something else.

Kintore
12-23-2004, 10:17 AM
Yah same here Blown, I would try glass bead or sand. Personnaly im tryed sand for my old rusty rims on the back of my R. Then start rubbin...

Apollo
12-23-2004, 10:36 AM
I would like to know the answer to Jeb's question about the color of '86 Tri Z wheels being silver and are they still available?

a-camp
12-23-2004, 10:42 AM
A.o. is the other medium used for blasting. Aluminium Oxcide. Thats what alot of cycl. are done with. Its gray+

Jeb
12-23-2004, 10:52 AM
I would like to know the answer to Jeb's question about the color of '86 Tri Z wheels being silver and are they still available?


I was trying to point out the obvious. :naughty: The 85 red and black special edition had silver rims. The 86 model had gold like the 85 yellow and black model.

Apollo
12-23-2004, 11:02 AM
Thanks Jeb. Those are cool looking bikes. I do not know much about Tri Z's. 85 to 86 are the only years made, right? What is different about the '86 campared to 85's? Is the speciel edition just cosmeticly different?

Jeb
12-23-2004, 11:10 AM
I believe the only difference in the 85's was color combo.

The 86 was basically the same, but had some great updates. It had bigger 39mm forks as opposed to the 35mm forks on the 85s. It also had 9" rear rims and 21" tires as opposed to 8" rims and 22" tires on the 85. 86 also came with a 23"-12 front tire/rim whereas the 85s had 25"-12. 86 has a six speed tranny and the 85 a five speed. Plus a few other differences like coolant bottle location.

But yeah, 85 & 86 are the only year models I know of. The yellow 85's were released in '84.

Derrick Adams
12-23-2004, 03:49 PM
I got lucky and bought a polished rim off ebay a couple months ago. It looked kind of gold in the picture, but turned out to be just stained. I'm still polishing on it, but it's looking sweet.

AZ250R
12-23-2004, 04:02 PM
just buy a dam douglas rim, what is the freakin fascination with shade tree mechanic cob jobs these days. maybe someone needs a factory rim, juet sell the darn thing, spend $70 and get a better, stronger polished aluminum wheel!
I don't know about Yamaha rims but stock Honda, late model 250R, rims are much stronger than any Duglas rim! Believe me, I've bounced both off bolders & the stock ones hold up better.

gasmask
12-23-2004, 07:44 PM
just called Recreation Tires 800.858.4737.23.5/8/11 is $75.00...Douglas Wheeles 23/8/12 is $90.00 866.477.9694... for 250r's...

mike from long island
12-23-2004, 08:52 PM
second post has an aluminum front rim for sale problem solved now quit complaining lol and just buy it!!!!!!!!

03 ORANGE SHEE
12-24-2004, 12:16 PM
the one for sale is a 85 silver one , yes, for the red/black one , if you dont need it i got four pm's from others wanting it,

smokinp
12-24-2004, 01:07 PM
i think it was Jeb and some other users on the site thaT put a 85-86 250R front rim on a tri-z..has anyone looked into getting one for the 250R and putting it on there z?just a thought..

mywifeknowseverything
12-24-2004, 01:44 PM
I remember that as well....I just cant remember if there were any problems getting it on... :wondering

twgranger
12-24-2004, 10:25 PM
pm sent!!!!!!

TrikerR
12-28-2004, 06:20 AM
well i just checked out the yamaha parts schematic and it says in plain text that you can either get a gold or SIlVER front rim from yamaha.

GreenBoy
12-28-2004, 08:54 AM
The best way to remove the "Gold" from any ANODIZED rim is to take it to the anodizing shop and tell these guys to pickle the gold off.
The have special stuff for this job, it doesn´t work with paint remover or oven cleaner.
The rims are HARD anodized, and the hard surface is (in comparison to paint) hard to remove.
If you get the rim bead blasted then the surface will be pretty rough and it will take ***** long to get it polished.

It depends on what you want, just a silver rim or a polished one.
The silver rim WAS available from Yamaha but is discontinued now in the USA,
part #38W-25180-00-HM (source bikebandit.com).
I will check if the rim is still available in Germany.

I got the complete application chart last year from Douglas, there is a front rim available for the Z, but the chart says "on request or custom made", they told me a price once but I don´t remember it.
The Z front rim is 12x6 3+3 4/205 8mm, same size as on the Big Wheel 200+350.The is nothing comparable.
No 12x6 3+3 rim in any bolt pattern is available from Douglas, if you use another offset you must use an adapter ring (another solution,but I doubt that this looks good.....).

If you get a Douglas rim from a 250R or 350X with 11x6 3+3 4/170 10mm, this could easily be machined to fit the Z front, takes about 30min in a shop with a big lathe and a drilling machine.

BTW, I got my stock Z rim polished in my buddy´s polishing shop, some guys might remember the "SHINEY Z" from my buddy in bavaria.
The biggest disadvantage is that the rim needs TLC, otherwise it will "rust".

So many words, hope somebody can use it :D
Hagen

Jeb
01-05-2005, 12:42 PM
Good to see ya here Hagen!

I had to edit your post for that bad profanity! ;) :D :p

Mr. Sandman
01-05-2005, 01:05 PM
I don't know about Yamaha rims but stock Honda, late model 250R, rims are much stronger than any Duglas rim! Believe me, I've bounced both off bolders & the stock ones hold up better.
AZ's right, stock wheels are much stronger than aftermarkets. Just take it in to your local polishing/chrome shop, they can blast it and then professionally polish it and it will look like a million bucks.

The biggest disadvantage is that the rim needs TLC, otherwise it will "rust".
It may need TLC, but aluminum doesn't rust.

twgranger
01-05-2005, 01:31 PM
I bought one from 03 ORANGE SHEE so that solved my problem. :beer

Dynofox
01-05-2005, 06:16 PM
Aftermarket front polished alm rims were offered for the Z. I bought one off e-bay about a year ago, here is a pic of it on the trike. I believe blazerone was the e-bay seller.

BLAZERONE22
01-05-2005, 07:49 PM
Aftermarket front polished alm rims were offered for the Z. I bought one off e-bay about a year ago, here is a pic of it on the trike. I believe blazerone was the e-bay seller.


Now that I've finally found a Tri Z, I wish I had held on to that 86 frontend I used to have. lol I think there's a silver rim on ebay now if someones looking.

Howdy
01-05-2005, 08:34 PM
I think there's a silver rim on ebay now if someones looking.

I am pretty sure there will be another one on Ebay soon. ;)
Howdy

twgranger
01-05-2005, 08:39 PM
Now that I've finally found a Tri Z, I wish I had held on to that 86 frontend I used to have. lol I think there's a silver rim on ebay now if someones looking.
Somone bought it, it was a great deal.

raptor
01-08-2005, 05:40 PM
i take it will be the same as removing the gold from a 250r wheel?

does it work for steel?

crazyorigin
01-08-2005, 05:45 PM
i think taking the gold off the rims is wrong, the gold rims are a true classic, and if you still have them, thats sweet, because their hard to find, i'de say buy a nice wheel, a douglas or something for 40$ and sell the gold one if you really dont want it, someone would

Dynofox
01-08-2005, 06:04 PM
i think taking the gold off the rims is wrong, the gold rims are a true classic, and if you still have them, thats sweet, because their hard to find, i'de say buy a nice wheel, a douglas or something for 40$ and sell the gold one if you really dont want it, someone would


I agree, I love the look of the gold rims. If I was going to keep my 400ex it was getting gold rims on all 4 corners. If you don't want gold rims go buy some polished ones.

raptor
01-08-2005, 06:18 PM
will polishing work on a steel rim?
if not what can i do to make it look better?

It was orignally yellow, so i painted them gold.

Mr. Sandman
01-08-2005, 08:24 PM
will polishing work on a steel rim?
if not what can i do to make it look better?
No, you can't polish steel, that's why there's chrome.

twgranger
01-08-2005, 11:19 PM
i think taking the gold off the rims is wrong, the gold rims are a true classic, and if you still have them, thats sweet, because their hard to find, i'de say buy a nice wheel, a douglas or something for 40$ and sell the gold one if you really dont want it, someone would
I bought a used one from a member here but you let me know when you find a aftermarket one for a tri-z ok! I have 2 gold front rims ill sell now.

mywifeknowseverything
01-09-2005, 08:25 AM
I'm not sure some people understand the difference between Parts Availability for the R and the Z...I say do what ever you want to your Bike and don't worry about what the others think.....What size Tire you putting on it??? Has anyone found a Tire Less than 23" for the Z rim?? I was at the parts house yesterday and couldnt find one and ended up ordering one of the Douglas KT732's....Also,,,Skat Trak as a couple of Dune Tires that are 8.5 wide...Has anyone went this wide before???

firebird13601
01-09-2005, 08:49 AM
Douglas wheels will make wheels for any application, i called them to find out.

mywifeknowseverything
01-09-2005, 08:55 AM
Yes they will for about 120 bucks...There isnt too many people on this board that are willing to pay that kind of money....

Bryan Raffa
08-02-2006, 06:19 AM
so if i glass beadblast it to remove the gold and then hand sand it. has any one done it? what # sand paper should i start with and finish with?

Derrick Adams
08-02-2006, 02:52 PM
it will work,but a long process.we used 180-320-1000-1200-and finally 1500 grit.i bought a polish kit form snap on to finish it up.the kit has 5 different wheels.form course to fine polishing.worked well,but without some type of protective coating,the aluminum tarnishs quickly.hope this helps

sgp56
08-02-2006, 08:15 PM
put some paint stripper on it and wait like 30 mins. WEAR GLOVES. comes right off.

Bryan Raffa
08-02-2006, 10:02 PM
so paint stripper would be better than bead blasting?

Yamahauler
08-03-2006, 02:13 AM
I was talking to an anodizing place asking them about removing that gold anodization. They said if you use oven cleaner, it will just remove the color and the anodization wont come off. So, I dont know if you'd have to coat it with something to prevent corrosion or not

traxxasx
08-03-2006, 04:48 AM
Use some aircraft paint remover. That should take it off nicley, and then maybe hit it up with the buffer to shine it.

DeePa
08-03-2006, 12:18 PM
lye...just look up the process to remove annoidzation.