ATC200ES Big Red 1985

[P-O-Prune]

Hi There I'm a Brit and I need some assistance.

I have a ATC200ES Big Red 1985, over here,and I'm struggling.
I have no spark, Coils good, plugs good and batterys good.
To check the CDI and Pulse units, are by buying them and plugging them in.
( Ohms testing pulse and CDI units seems to be within limits )
If I could get them here ( not silly money ) As I am on a very tight budget.
My CDI unt is the 6 pin circular one ( 969 CI-42 correct? or 8.D 141 )
1:- Could I take a points system off another Honda and fit that instead?
( I am of the old school )
2:- What top end have Honda used on this Model? is it CG?
3:- Could I use power straight from the battery, rather than stator? Is the stator power essential for checking it?
4:- What is Pecon pie and why is it so sweet?

Thank you for whatever Help is given.

[BIGRED_87]

are you sure this isn't a 1984? in 1983, they made the Big Red 200E. in 1984, they made the Big Red 200ES. in 1985, they made the Big Red 250ES. if you look on the front of the frame where the forks are, there should be a black rectangular sticker with the year, make, and model of the machine.

[leprogle]

he's from overseas. i believe atcmatt used to have an 85 as well. superred or something it was called

[JoeSuzuki]

Its actually PECAN pie and its should not be too sweet. Pecans are the nuts youll find on top of the pie.!!!!!

[trikerider2oo7]

85 200 big reds were only sold over seas.

pecan pie is gross, dont eat it

[BIGCRIP28]

pecans grow in trees (like acorns)
the pie is sweet cuz it has sugar in it (pecans in it of course)

[smokeyhonda]

1. Prolly, how good are ya?
2. I dunno what u mean.
3. No. The igniter coil and lighting coil are seperate, so Yes it's essential.
4. It's kinda gross nut pie w/ a shortload of sugar.

[83185s]

lol i agree with smokey but i kinda like pecan pie...but i dont like the pecans so that really takes the meaning out of it so..yea..lol

[atcmatt]

Yes it may be an 1985. I used to have a 1985 atc200es superred. Exactly the same as a 1984 model just diffrent stickers on the tank and fenders.

Matt

[YTZ250#1]

It's nice that you guys know so much about pecan pie.I'm sure that was his most importent ? .lol I don't much care for it myself,but if you do eat it I recomend a big frosty glass of milk to wash it down.Hope this helps get your trike runing.lol

I'm parting an 84 200es,and I still have most of the electrical,including the harness(that is listed on ebay).if you want somthing make me an offer.be sure to include shipping from NY in your offer.Thanks Steve

[P-O-Prune]

Thank you and Hi to you all,

BIGRED 87 :- Yes it is a 1985 ATC220es, I thought at first I had it wrong. It seems we must get the back end of deals here, as it stayed a 200.
Leprogle :- Yes I'm a limey (northen) and it's labelled a Big Red.
JoeSuzuki :- I tried one and I nearly gagged it was so sweet. I think a few of my teeth gave up and fell out there and then.
Trikerider007:- It's not included in the manual I have though, or Honda's site.
Bigcrip28 :- Thank you, it's as I wrote to JoeSuzuki.
SmokeyHonda:- 1 : Not too bad with the resources at Hand (not much tho). 2 : To save money on R&D did they use a top end( barrels, piston, head, ignition ) from say a CG engine or a CD model? 3 : Bugger! I was hoping it didn't.
83185s :- Yup kind of defeats the object. My mate likes meat pies, but only for the crust. What's all that about??
Atcmatt :- What gets up my nose, is the renaming for different countries of the very same model.
YTZ250#1 :- I'll have the milk instead of the pie ta! I'm on E-Bay I'll have a look at across the water Ta. ( usually the postage is crippling! I sent models to Canada and the states, that was enough! )

I am hoping to switch back to points to simplify the system. Out of all the system, which is the part that has given most Gip! ( problems-aggrovation )?

[crackshot]

does it snow in england?

[Howdy]

The most likely problem is your exciter coil ( part of the stator ). Unplug the Black with red striped wire coming from the stator. Do a ohm test on it. You should have 215-240ohms. The lower the number the weaker the spark.

Points: I personally hate points set ups. I know when the CDI igintion is working correctly it is a far more reliable set up.

Parts: I have some parts also. I am also on Ebay and can list your needed parts on there or sell them directly.
Howdy


Howdy

[broook]

Thank you and Hi to you all,

Leprogle :- Yes I'm a limey (northen) and it's labelled a Big Red.
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Anywear near Barrow-in- Furness??????

[P-O-Prune]

Yes but we call it frozen rain! As it does that most of the time.

[P-O-Prune]

About 90 miles south south west. On the other side of the pennine hills.

[P-O-Prune]

Thanks I'll try that in the morning.
I like to keep it simple with points, like me.

[smokeyhonda]

cg or cd? cdi or points?
I have an 84es thats probobly the same as yours. I had a no spark problem when I bought it. Fixed it by testing then replacing the igniter coil on the stator then the cdi. You need a multimeter unless you want to guess whats wrong. I'd go for fixing whats there over modifying, but then again the idea of a EMP proof big red does sound cool in a post-apoctalypic kinda way.

[bonkers_200s]

pecan pie is awesome, almost as good as mince meat pie, or shoe fly pie.

[Crazy dude]

Hey i'm having the exact same problem with my atc200es...i just finished rewiring it and my coil and cdi is perfect...bt stil no spark

[rdlsz24]

I had a Mini Trail 70 that had a good coil but still wouldn't spark. It turned out where the coil was mounted was rusty so it wasn't getting grounded. Once I shined it back to bare metal I got spark back again.

Rob

[Crazy dude]

Ok ill try that bt if i look at mine it is touching bare metal 2 bare metal...what i'd lyk 2 knw is wat should trailprotrailpro output voltage 4rm the excitor coil 2 the cdi b...and wat the pulsar pickup b reading 2 the cdi and mayb the voltage goin 2 the coil 4rm the cdi...if any1 cn help me on that it would b most appreciated

[Crazy dude]

Its bare metal to bare metal bt still no spark

[Russell 350X]

Holy thread from the dead!