200x problems

[willcamach]

i have an 84 200x i recently purchased...... it has no airbox lid a k&n filter and i recently added a bassani pipe i found on ebay....now heres the prolem. when i got the bike it had the stock pipe on it and it was really hard to start but would start after numerous kicks..... i ended up scoring a bassani from ebay and put it on the trike and wouldnt you know it seemed to start a whole lot better but still required a bunch of kicks to start at half choke i might add.....after i get the bike going it seems to idle kinda high but will run for about 10-15 minutes then will just bog down and not restart untill the bike has cooled down. this is the only bike i have ever owned and have no clue where to start....any help would be great...... :TrikesOwn

[MTS]

sounds like a jetting problem to me, do a plug test, let the bike warm up, then take it for a spin in 4th gear pined, kill it pull the clutch in and stop, take the spark plug out and see what colour it is, if possibl post a picture of it, this will help see what the problem is :)

[smokinp]

I would check for the basics..does it have compression?getting gas?have spark?what does the plug look like?Is there clean gas in it?

[willcamach]

i know it has clean gas and spark. dont know how to check compresion and it has a new spark plug

[MTS]

thats nice it has a new spark plug but that has little to do with it ;p take the plug out of the bike and just tell us what colour it is, cuse the carb probably needs to be re-jetted becuse of the pipe and filter that is on it

[willcamach]

will do i will try to post a pick of the plug. i thank you guys for the input..... another quick question i want to change the oil in the machine and was wondering what oil should i use and is there a filter on this machine casue it doesnt look like there is an external filter?????

[atczack]

for changing oil look on the left side engine case and remove the big drain plug, its like 24 or 25mm or something like that. there is a wire screen in there that needs to be cleaned while the oil is draining. your also supposed to take the right hand engine case off and there is a round thing in there with three screws in it. take the three screws out and remove the screen from the inside and clean it and put it all back together. your probably supposed to clean this screen everytime you change the oil, but i dont, i do it every 2 or 3 time's depending on what kind of riding i've been doing. i use 10w30 oil. never had a problem.

[atczack]

oh i forgot, there's not a screen in the round thing inside the right hand engine case, it's called the filter rotor or something, but there's no screen, just clean the inside and put it back together.

[willcamach]

well heres the story i went to my storage garage got the spark plug out and took a few pic's of it came home to upload them only to find out my girlfriend had lent out our usb cord to her damm sister and so cant post the pic now have to go track down the damm wire from her messy sister wish me luck....lol but anyway i will try my best to describe the plug is a champion #RASHC...... and looking at the end tip of the plug it looks like its been sitting in a fire place....lol very black almost burnt looking and it was a new plug maybe at most an hour or two on the plug. dont know if this helps any but i will post a pic asap.... also curious as to how i can check compression as suggested in the earlier post

[84honda 200X]

First this sounds like what happened to my dad. First get a NGk spark plug Champion is junk my dad had one in his bigred and it was brand new and only lasted 2 hours. And the jetting is off you are running rich it sounds like from what you described. You could try to adjust the carb to if its running rich.

[willcamach]

what adjustments should i make i am a total noob when it comes to this trike. ive inspected the carb and it seems to have quite a few screws on it dont know where to start

[willcamach]

any suggestions as to how to adjust my carb. or how to change the jets????

[samster143]

Use Honda GN-4 oil in 10-40. This will give the longest engine life. It is more expensive @ 4.5 a quart but it is worth it.

[Mr. Sandman]

sounds like a jetting problem to me, do a plug test, let the bike warm up, then take it for a spin in 4th gear pined, kill it pull the clutch in and stop, take the spark plug out and see what colour it is

1. Buy a manual. It's well worth the $20-$25 and will save you future headaches from poor advice and buying parts you may not need.

2. A "plug chop" which is the proper term, will only work on two strokes, not four strokes.

3. If all this bike has on it is a K & N filter without the air box lid and a Bassani pipe, jetting is probably not the problem and re-jetting is not the solution.

4. Start with the proper NGK plug, clean your fuel & air filters, and set the carb air & mixture screws correctly. If there's rust in the fuel filter, you'll need to clean the tank and carb. If this does not help, start looking for electrical problems per the manual.

[willcamach]

again i ask what is the proper air fuel mixture setting. and where do i adjust it...

[Glenn J]

I agree with the above post, emphasis on #4.

[Mr. Sandman]

That I can't tell you. That info as well as a ton of other good info can be found in the manual (Clymer or Haynes are good). If you can get a hold of a Honda Owners Manual for the 200X it's in there too. Ebay is a good place to look for either manual if you can't buy one locally from your dealer.

[willcamach]

thanks for the help guys .... after thinking about all of this i think im just gonna pay the $50.00 bucks the dealer wants to look at it and just go from there the manual is half the price and i will still be lost so. if its too much to fix i will just part the damm thing out and get something more reliable.

[Mr. Sandman]

If you're not mechanically inclined, then the dealer would be your best bet, but as far as reliability goes, the Honda's were and are some of the better machines out there. You also should understand that this bike is 20 years old and may or may not have been maintained properly. Once you get it running right, it should provide many hours of reliable riding time with a minimal amount of maintenance. Good luck.

[willcamach]

not so much that im not inclined just never worked on a bike engine. and the terms all seem foriegn. ive never had to change the jetting , or check the compresion or even had to read the spark plug on my jetta. so it all seems overwhelming i was just trying to see if i could get some basic carb settings techniques and see if they would help the bike run better but looks like id be better off just taking it to a pro. again thanks all