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Billy Golightly
07-07-2004, 12:57 PM
Remember that Honda ATC50 that was rumored, but never came out? I was kind of bored this afternoon and was digging around the US patent office and found this (Pictures attached below). Checkout the front suspension! I'm not totally positive if its a 50 or maybe an improved ATC70. Look at the similarties in design between it and Yamaha Tri-Zinger, it even has inverted front forks just like a zinger! And this is the killer part, the patent was submitted in 81, which means that there is a VERY good possibility that Yamaha copied this design, or maybe even Honda sold it to them. The similarities are way to close to be coincidental.


I've found some other really cool stuff too, like 2 different designs of a threewheeler hauler design that doesn't use a trailer. Instead, a complex design of bracketry simply goes onto a normal ball hitch and it holds the threewheeler in place (Like those bicycle haulers you see). Theres also preliminary designs from Yamaha for a trike from 1978. I'll post some more stuff, this is just to friggen cool. Maybe I'll find something for the ATC500R :D

trikerider2oo7
07-07-2004, 01:23 PM
that i awesome...did you get that off of the patent offices website? it would be awesomeif they would have come out with it

Billy Golightly
07-07-2004, 01:27 PM
Yeah I did, I'm finding even more stuff now. I found the 85 ATC250R patent, the 250ES one, and some other thing I'm saving the pictures of now. The trike itself is tiny looking but has ape hanger style handlebars that fit an adult....First pit bike?

Billy Golightly
07-07-2004, 01:32 PM
Heres that other thing...From the looks of it I'm kind of glad it didn't come out :p

RichinMO
07-07-2004, 01:58 PM
I like how the back fenders are in the shape of the first gen 250r.

Jeb
07-07-2004, 02:25 PM
Billy, that's some cool stuff you found!

trikerider2oo7
07-07-2004, 02:57 PM
i love that second one too...it looks pimp with the bars up and out like they are

Darius1502
07-07-2004, 04:58 PM
Post the Yamaha trike pictures.

Lots_Of_Nothing
07-07-2004, 05:04 PM
what do the other publications mean? both say "snow goer honda atc110" "cycle world 3/78 p.94 honda ATC70 center of page", and some other stuff,, atleast thats what i think it says, hard to make out exactly what it says.,,, also, on that second one, in the first picture.,. see on the left side of the engine? looks like a kick starter?

Billy Golightly
07-07-2004, 05:20 PM
Jared I think those are suppose to be references to things similar as to what they are patenting, I'm not sure though. I'll get the Yamaha one and post it too.

Billy Golightly
07-07-2004, 05:33 PM
Heres the Yamaha one....the space inbetween the handlebars and seat reminds me of an old Honda scooter.

trikerider2oo7
07-07-2004, 05:59 PM
how did you get the pics? all i get is text...i tried clicking on images but nothing comes up

Billy Golightly
07-07-2004, 06:07 PM
On the patent office website you mean? You gotta download a plugin, its on their website if you go under the help page.

renotrikeguy
07-07-2004, 06:10 PM
Whats the URL to the patent site?

Lots_Of_Nothing
07-07-2004, 06:23 PM
I like how they call them a "motortricycle" haha...

Darius1502
07-07-2004, 06:30 PM
Post the 85R up there too....

Oh and can you look for the ATC 200r or the ATC 500R?? If they were close to production then its likely a patent would have been filed first.

Unless the design is dissimilar to other models I would assume that the patent would cover later additional models.

Billy Golightly
07-07-2004, 06:34 PM
I looked Darius, I didn't find any :(. I didn't find any for the 2nd generation 250R, or 350X either. All the ones I found were listed under "motor tricycle" or "motortricycle". The others might be out there but their listed under something else that I haven't found yet.

H.M.F.I.C.
07-07-2004, 07:32 PM
I found the one for the 2nd generation ATC 250R. Patent #287,835. I don't know how to transfer the image from there to here so unless someone tells me how you will have to go check it out yourself. That is an awsome site BTW.

Lots_Of_Nothing
07-07-2004, 07:50 PM
welp, just cruised it for a couple minutes,, came accross a few things, i cant post the pics, but i saved the links on my comp so (billy) if you wanna see them just ask and i'll give you the links.. i found;

81/82 250R
85/86 250R
350X
225DX
tri-zinger
vented 250r front fender
250r front forks
3 wheeled vehicle stabilizer (it was patented in 89, its a thing that bolts onto a smaller atc and has wheels coming out on each side so that if you turn to sharp it wont tip over)
bunch of 3wheeler addons like racks and whatnot
whole crapload of 3wheelers i dont recognize
and a few other things..

H.M.F.I.C.
07-07-2004, 07:53 PM
276,033 looks to be the 200x

268,747 looks like a 1st gen. 250R with a huge windshield. You gota check this out.

H.M.F.I.C.
07-07-2004, 08:37 PM
Just found the one for the 350X 295,395

No luck on a atc 500R yet.

Darius1502
07-07-2004, 11:26 PM
The little trike with the chopper bars is probably the ATC 50 guys.

Darius1502
07-07-2004, 11:56 PM
Found a bunch of stuff but no 500R....

well I think I figured out that there could have been a few designs for the ATC 50...and they look awesome!!/.DImg?Docid=US0D0295395&PageNum=1&IDKey=62FE5FC342D2&ImgFormat=tif

REDMAN225
07-08-2004, 12:55 AM
wow! cool pics and info

Billy Golightly
03-20-2007, 08:28 PM
I just accidently ran across this old thread while searching the archives and thought some new people might enjoy it.

Bryan Raffa
03-20-2007, 08:33 PM
ya thanks billy cool stuff!!!

Orangecnty250r
03-20-2007, 08:34 PM
Wow That was a little while before I joined....I am not new and enjoyed it Thanks

Brockey
03-20-2007, 09:44 PM
Pretty cool. Some machines look wrong lol.

BigReds Forever
03-20-2007, 11:08 PM
sweet, i was a member but must have missed it back then. Thanks for bumping it up. Anyone find anything new?