Auto to manul clutch

[plkmonster2]

Hey everyone, I've had the pics for the upgrade, or mad, but I have nothing to edit them with. I can't use paint, which wont load em, and I can't use photoshoppe because it turns them into pdd files. I'll try to get photo shop 7, which should allow me to edit them. In the mean time, I'll post some pics. See that arm in the middle of the pic that seems to attach to the clutch? Well, it needs to come off! It should look like the second pic after you pull it off.

P.S. I hate uploading pics. Is there any way to upload a pic directly off my computer? I was able to do it a while ago, but it looks as if I can't do it anymore! :xhttp://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/518000-518999/518320_3_full.jpg

[Crash104936221]

ok glad to see you got things worked out

*edited*
removal of e-mail address :D

[plkmonster2]

Ok, I got it figured out! Here's the second one. http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/518000-518999/518320_5_full.jpg

[plkmonster2]

Ok, now, you see that little think that looks like a U, and grabs the arm? Well, that needs to rotate up, 1 position. You see that I have the other piece on there. Make sure that it is oriented along with the marking, or pins in the case. http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/518000-518999/518320_6_full.jpg

[plkmonster2]

Now it gets tricky. I will need to draw a few diagrams to show you fully, but you need to attach an arm to one of the forks. This will give more leverage to the rotating disk, and keep the cable away from the clutch. I'll show you some pics of how the mechanism works for now, so you will get the idea. Here is a pic of it at rest, how it sits with no pressure. http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/518000-518999/518320_7_full.jpg

[plkmonster2]

In this second pic, you will see how when the forks are turned by the arm, they cause the 3 balls to become offset, and push outward. Heres the pic. http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/518000-518999/518320_8_full.jpg See how the gap increases? This puts pressure against the clutch, which causes it to slip.

[Crash104936221]

sweet i cant wait to see how you finish this up

as i would love this mod on my 200 :D and i think it could be moddified to work

joe

[plkmonster2]

The 110 motor i have now doesn't run, but I'm gonna get an old junker trike to do this on. Need an old trike to try out other mods on. :twisted:

[bigred110]

I read in a Dirt wheels mag when person added a manul clutch to his 250ex, and it said it made it faster.

[Crash104936221]

I read in a Dirt wheels mag when person added a manul clutch to his 250ex, and it said it made it faster.

Was this a tech report or just a reader writing in?
i just think it might of seemd faster becuse he was squezing a leaver

unless he mabie changed some clutch plates or stuff like that and gained some grip??? no?

anyways
i just grabed my side case and had a look at it and the clutch setup on my 200 and it looks like 3 holes and remove a few plates and its all cake
but i need to look in the light lol
will post more about this when i figure it out

can somone post a picture of the inside of the 200X side case where the clutch cable enters and a pic of the outside where the clutch cable go's into the case? cable on if ya can thanks

Joe

[bigred110]

I read in a Dirt wheels mag when person added a manul clutch to his 250ex, and it said it made it faster.

Was this a tech report or just a reader writing in?
i just think it might of seemd faster becuse he was squezing a leaver

unless he mabie changed some clutch plates or stuff like that and gained some grip??? no?

anyways
i just grabed my side case and had a look at it and the clutch setup on my 200 and it looks like 3 holes and remove a few plates and its all cake
but i need to look in the light lol
will post more about this when i figure it out

can somone post a picture of the inside of the 200X side case where the clutch cable enters and a pic of the outside where the clutch cable go's into the case? cable on if ya can thanks

Joe

It was in the letters section

[Crash104936221]

snaped a few pics

1 hole in the case in the center of the spring retainer to pass the cable through
and a hole in each side of the clucth leaver over spring and install a stainless steel rod through with a nut on each end to keep it there

and remove the auto clutch plates off the shifter shaft

then all one would have to do is find a way to lock up the centrifugal system

Joe

[Crash104936221]

outside case pictures

im not sure where the normal oil level sits when the engine is all together but i will assume that its over the location where the hole in the case would be so that would have to be a sealed loaction

and 2 outside pictures where the hole in the case would be
used my sungalsses as a pionter (better than my fat finger)

Joe

[mymint87]

heres my 90 stroker motor

full flow oil system and manual clutch

[plkmonster2]

Hmm, that is tricky. I'd need to see how that lever is set up tot he shifter shaft, and the clutch. But, it looks as if that lever rotates, and takes the place of the discs on the 110. On the 90 stroker there, it uses a new side case. You could fabricate a hole in the stock case, to accept the clucth mechanism that pushes the clutch in.

[short4stuff]

Crash did you test yours out ?? if so how does it work?

[greenhuman]

You do realise the clutch in the auto engine does not have as many friction and steel plates as a proper manual clutch. Using this setup as a manual clutch will more than likely slip after a little while. It does not slip as an auto because the centrifugal clutch is taking the strain in the initial take off.

[short4stuff]

alright PLK .. help me out I am gonna do this to my yt175 .... Heres the pic. Now if yeah can help me out by pointing out what to do again (the diagrams), cause all the other pics got wiped out during the board change. I plan on doing this/starting it tomorrow.


well for some reason i cant even find the scheme on bike bandit .... help me !

[hondatrikesrule22]

Did you ever finish this set up PLK?

[hotroddal]

thats realy neet