anyone have luck mounting used tires?

[Jim mac]

my next project needs two tires. guys got a pair of old lobbies for 20 bucks, ive busted down old tires and most were rock hard.
So the question is, anyone have luck mounting older tires or just go pay a few extra bucks and buy new? I think a pair of new 22x11x8 knobbies are 90 bucks delivered vs 20 bucks and never getting it to seat? jim

[coolpool]

I'm sure with a little perseverance and some well placed ratchet straps you should get them mounted up in no time. Maybe warm them up a bit first with a heat gun, might make them more pliable. There's always the ether and match trick.....wait, don't do that!

[DAM shop]

One piece rims or split rims?

[Jim mac]

split rims.

[350for350]

Before you buy the used ones, if you go that way, look at the bead areas of the tires. I've removed a lot of old tires that had the rubber pull of of the tire in this area. I don't think that they would seal up if there's any rubber missing. Here's my take and experience with old tires. When I bought my 250SX on labor Day weekend, 2014, the rear tires were ok, but the front tire had some weather checking. If I aired it up to 4 PSI, it would be completely flat after 4 days. I didn't think that it was too bad so I bought a bottle of tire sealer, put it in the tire, and never had to air it up again. Fast forward to the following July and I took it out to Colorado t go riding in the mountains. When we were about 10 or 12 miles from camp, the sidewall let go. I had to put my back side as far back as I could to take as much weight as possible off of the front tire, but I did make it back to camp. By the time that I got back, there was sealer all over me and the front of the SX. I didn't look at the tire after it went flat so I don't know how big the hole was at that time, but here's what it looked like after getting the tire off at home. After that, I said that I'd never go riding very far (especially up in the mountains) with tires that are questionable. All of my riders have good tires on them. Just the thought of how miserable it would have been if one of the rear tires had given out has made me not worry about the cost of new tires. I just buy them and put them on.265512

[Jim mac]

its basically a pair of rollers is what I need. Tires on there are split wide open. I could cut a pair of discs out of 1/4 inch plywood and bolt them onto the hubs to make rollers in back. Jim

[ATC King]

265512

Dang it...brought me back to my childhood.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afofc_Jt86s

[ATC King]

its basically a pair of rollers is what I need. Tires on there are split wide open. I could cut a pair of discs out of 1/4 inch plywood and bolt them onto the hubs to make rollers in back. Jim

Roller or not, you're probably going to take a test ride on it sometime.

Anything dry rotted or worn out, I toss. No exceptions. I just mounted up some tires today, that I've had for years, onto a riding mower that's been relegated to trailer duty. They were too stiff for any of the trikes, but just fine for a low speed lawn tractor. The reason I've kept them is they had no dry rot, and I've stored them out of the sun and weather since taking them off the parts trike I bought years ago.

I've met my monthly allotment for tire disposal at the landfill, so I have to wait until next month before hauling my next load of junk tires off, but I certainly keep a stash of useable ones in the tractor shed for rollers or anything else needing a quick pair.

[Jim mac]

I can fit 1 knobby in the trash can when I have to get rid of the odd tire once in awhile. The tires on my 110 are good but rock hard. Maybe order a full set of three, stick them on the 110 and stick the used set on the project. Jim

[ATC King]

If you have any used tires with a little bead damage, you could try some bead sealer.

I've used this a good bit while working in tire shops:

Xtra Seal Part Number: 14-101B 32 oz. (945ml) Extra Heavy Duty Bead Sealer Flammable
http://31inc.com/products/32-oz-945ml-extra-heavy-duty-bead-sealer-flammable/
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It comes in three flavors- Bead Sealer (14-101), Heavy Duty (14-101A), and Extra Heavy Duty (14-101B) like the link I listed.

You'll have to order it, because I doubt you'll find it on any store shelf. All of them are listed for commercial or professional use. I couldn't even find any for sale at big truck shops that carry the Xtra Seal brand.

[Jim mac]

actually oriely auto parts keeps it in stock, I just bought my second can of it last month. I have a old centerline rim with some pitting on the mounting surface and that stuff sealed it great. jim

[MrConcdid]

For me mounting old tires is a crap shoot, I broke down some very hard old tires, but no cracking, I got them off, cleaned and painted the wheels, wire brushed the crude on the beads, now they leak air, I took them back off and replaced with new tires, no more leaks. That's an hour I will not get back.

MrC.

[Blmpkn]

old tires are no Bueno on anything, just ask Paul walker.

Even if it wasn't for the extra pain of getting them mounted/dismounted, OR the durability/safety issue like 350for350 brought up.. they simply wouldn't perform as good.

The only time old, hard tires should be put on a trike IMO would be for a 100% factory museum type show piece that doesnt get ridden.

[Jim mac]

I ended up messaging the seller and decided to just buy 3 new tires for the 110. used tires and rims will go on the 185s to rollers. jim

[jasong_10]

Dang it...brought me back to my childhood.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afofc_Jt86s

Lol, I remember those! I think my cousin had one . . .

[jasong_10]

If you have any used tires with a little bead damage, you could try some bead sealer.

I've used this a good bit while working in tire shops:

Xtra Seal Part Number: 14-101B 32 oz. (945ml) Extra Heavy Duty Bead Sealer Flammable
http://31inc.com/products/32-oz-945ml-extra-heavy-duty-bead-sealer-flammable/
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It comes in three flavors- Bead Sealer (14-101), Heavy Duty (14-101A), and Extra Heavy Duty (14-101B) like the link I listed.

You'll have to order it, because I doubt you'll find it on any store shelf. All of them are listed for commercial or professional use. I couldn't even find any for sale at big truck shops that carry the Xtra Seal brand.

I manage an Advance Auto Parts and we stock it (our commercial shops love it). I can't speak for any store but mine but it'd be worth a look if you're close to one.

[Dirtcrasher]

I've even had bead seal leak! Hands down the only way I never get sidewall leaks is to use clear silicone when I mount tires, I've had great luck since using that.

Old tires stink, you just don't know what they've been thru. Old NOS is one thing, but once used, or mounted, or left outside, or run low, or left flat in storage, they're a problem...

[350for350]

I've had the bead sealer leak too. The next time I mount some new tires, I think that I'm going to try your clear silicone suggestion.