250r light with s

[schlepp29]

Will a 85/86 head light work on a 200s motor? Will it light properly? I thought I heard some time ago that it took different electric components to work correctly. Thanks

[oldskool83]

they are all 3 wires my 200x motor powered and 85R one

[schlepp29]

Perfect! I appreciate the response thanks.

[bigredlance]

The '85 uses a 45/45w bulb, the stock 200s stator puts out 50w. The '86 uses a 55/60w which would be less than impressive. Ricky Stator sells a 70w replacement stator that would make the larger one bright.

[schlepp29]

Ah ok now I remember, that's what I forgot. I knew it was something. I heard that a long time ago and couldn't remember, thank you bigredlance.

[bigredlance]

I'm working on an '84 200s . I'm going to replace the stator & use a 55/60w with a TRX300ex reflector in a '86 125m headlight case.

[oldskool83]

Who wants a incandescent bulb anymore, led bar or led light bulb swap done right. Seeing is a great thing.

[schlepp29]

Some guys like to keep the original ish look. Yeah leds are nice. I'm not picky myself.

[big specht]

Wounder if there is a lower wattage bulb that will fit in the R light that will ?

[schlepp29]

That's definitely a cheaper alternative and easier if its possible. It would be good enough for me

[jb2wheels]

I think the R uses an H4: 45W H4 Bulb Link (https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H4-45-45W-Standard/dp/B00IKM62RA)

The thing to remember about the S: it has no voltage regulator so you need both bulbs with proper wattage or they'll either be dim or blow. I think the S uses a 45W headlight and 5W taillight.

I believe the stock 85R bulb is 45W and 86 is a 60W. My 85R has a 90/130 bulb in it now.

[schlepp29]

Jb2wheels so would my best bet be to get a Ricky stator? I

[schlepp29]

Big red lance, if I got the Ricky stator you mentioned that would be the safest route? I believe my head light off my r is an 85.

[jb2wheels]

I'd try the 45W bulb with a 5W tail light first. Cheaper.

If you get a high output stator, consider a 2-wire style voltage regulator.

[schlepp29]

That's perfect cause I don't have a clue what I'm doing electrically. Thanks a million!

[ps2fixer]

Also if you can find a voltage regulator with actual specs, you'll want one that is rated for the stator's max output. 70w @ 12v = 5.8amp encase it's rated in amps.

There are also voltage regulators vs voltage regulator/rectifiers. The ones with the rectifier converts the AC power from the stator to a type of DC power that can power lights and charge a battery. It's not perfect power for an LED headlight but should function on it. Rectified regulators generally have 4 wires, sometimes 5. On those style you need to determin if it's single phase or 3 phase too which complicates things quickly. Your machine is single phase (two wires from stator vs 3).

Stock lighting on a 200S is 45w headlight, 5w tail light. Generally speaking the 250r light/housing will provide the same amount of light, it might be focused a little different though. I'm pretty sure a 65/70w headlight exists for the 250r housing too H4 style which should work well with the 70w aftermarket stator and if everything is rated correctly, should all play nice with each other with out a voltage regulator.

Also with the 250r housing, you'll need to convert or adapt your wiring to a H4 headlight plug.

[schlepp29]

That'll be a huge help! When I get moving around this morning I'm gonna head down to the garage and look at the r head light. Maybe I'll post a pic for others to see. Thanks!

[ps2fixer]

The bulb inside the headlight should have the wattage rating on it, like 45w/45w.

[bigredlance]

Ricky Stator has an adjustable 2 wire regulator. It's just depends on how much light you want & what you're want to to get into. The stock stator will run the 45/45w and a 5w tail light fine. That's what the system was designed for & like jb2 wheels said-cheaper. The higher output stator would run either the 45w or a 60w but a regulator would definitely be necessary with the smaller bulb & wouldn't hurt anything with the larger one, although I'm not sure how much bulb life would suffer without it. LED's are fine with the exception that you need DC current which means you need a rectifier/regulator to make your A/C lighting system compatible. I've been using LED's in the indicators & tail lights of my Big Red's (electric start-DC lighting system). I haven't found an LED headlight bulb that will comfortably fit in my OEM headlight housings.

[ps2fixer]

FYI, marker light/tail light LEDs are just a LED+ resister, those work fine on AC but also suspectable to over voltage just like normal bulbs. LED headlights use what's called a Current driver with generally takes a wide range of input voltage but is designed for DC power. Some will work on AC, but since the power supply wasn't designed for it, it might create excess heat and not last long and likely to flicker on AC vs DC.

I have a 45w LED headlight in my 250es, but it took special adapters to make it fit the housing (the black plasic part). 4x6 style headlight and it was a nice snug fit. Same light fits the 200ES and similar machine housing with out the adapter requirement.