Re-Use this head gasket?

[J.D.]

Hmm....pay 35.75 for a new one, or re-use this one and clean up the mess the YZ gasket left?

[plkmonster2]

Looks good, but is it split, or is that just the angle? BTW, give your keyboard a cleaning too! LOL :D :-D

[twgranger]

I wouldn't re-use any kind of gasket. :x

[J.D.]

I wouldn't re-use any kind of gasket. :x

And why not? I've re-used my clutch cover gasket about 6 times now. If you wanna pay 15 bucks each time you take your clutch cover off, go for it, but I refuse to!

[twgranger]

I wouldn't re-use any kind of gasket. :x

And why not? I've re-used my clutch cover gasket about 6 times now. If you wanna pay 15 bucks each time you take your clutch cover off, go for it, but I refuse to!It's up to you but i don't like reusing gaskets. There is more of a chance for it to leak.

[TRI-Zbrian]

yeah the head gasket has to take alot more then a clutch cover gasket will ever see.... its up to you man but id buy a new one.... and another thing i hope that price isnt for just the head gasket man other wise you are getting ripped off big time i can buy a head gasket for 8$ over here.

[slippy4]

You can try it, but i almost bet that it will leak seeing that it is pulled apart. id think youd be safer and better off just going and buying a new one right away.

[TimSr]

another thing i hope that price isnt for just the head gasket man other wise you are getting ripped off big time i can buy a head gasket for 8$ over here.

Where do you get $8 head gaskets for a Tri-Z????????

[TRI-Zbrian]

i was wrong on that its 8$ for the base gasket and 17$ for the head gasket

[timex69]

if you absolutely have to reuse that gasket i recomend putting some gaskit maker on it just to make sure its seals completely...good luck

[ATC crazy]

I wouldnt take any chances.....go get a new one

[TimSr]

i was wrong on that its 8$ for the base gasket and 17$ for the head gasket


Okay, where do you get TriZ head gaskest for $17? Let us in on it!

[sportvette]

another vote for a new one. not worth having to take it apart again.

[J.D.]

Yeah TimSr no trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro, that's really cheap for a head gasket.

Well guys I'm gonna re-use it, or at least try. Some of my homies are saying re-use it, "I re-use head gaskets all the time", some of my homies say don't ever re-use any gasket, so this is going to be a learning experience for me. I'll let you fellas know how it comes out.

[dz]

Why re-do it 2 times when one time would be sufficient? If it leaks you are going to have to tear it down again. And if it leaks while you are out somewhere you're screwed.

[TimSr]

Goku,
If you really want to reuse it, I can tell you how to make it work.
First drill or ream out the holes with the rivet that holds all 3 pieces together. You need to take them apart. Keep them straight as to how they went together. Make sure its completely clean. As you can see on the gasket, the film of factory sealer on the gaskey has somewhat peeled. Thats the black stuff coming off. That needs replaced. Get a small aerosol can of Copper Coat from your autoparts store. Make sure you have a film of Coppercoat between each layer. Lastly you need a coat on the top and bottom before you install it. Make sure you install it right side up. One layer has a smaller hole for the bore. That layer goes on top.

I try to start with a new gasket, but if its only been in a short time before it had to be pulled back out, or its an emergency (by my definition) Ive had 100% success. My only head leaks can be attributed to a warped head. And really, what have you got to loose? If its gonna leak, itll most likely do it within the first heat cool reheat cycle. Know how to check for leaks! Aside from visually looking for coolant leaking externally, the Z is easy to spot an internal head gasket leak. Will radiator cap on tight, simply pop the cap on the overflow bottle. Making sure its full, if you watch the coolant in the overflow, and rev the engine, if the gasket leaks, itll shoot a bunch of bubbles up through the coolant every time you rev the motor.

[TimSr]

Hey TriZ Brain, what gives? $8 Tri-Z gaskets, then $17 Tri-Z gaskets, and now youve got an ad looking for a Z top end gasket kit? Do think somebody can give you a better price than $17 or was the $17 price a mistake? Let me know, because if there is a $17 gasket source out there I really want to stock up.

[84250r]

I think mine is better Goku,let me know if you need it! ;)


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[TRI-Zbrian]

yes lol there is a shop here named nesco that if i herd them right over the phone would sell me a head gasket for 17 bucks and a base gasket for 8 bucks i dont know if it was a special deal or not but thats the price i got... but i am in there alot and know them so i dont know if that has anything to do with it lol i didnt know that they were that expensive you can buy a whole top end gasket kit from dennis kirk for 30 something bucks made by vesrah or how ever you spell that

[TimSr]

Yeah, I know, I just bought one from DK for $34.99 + shipping. But at $25 for head and base, even purchasing whichever of the smaller gaskets you might indivually, its still going to be cheaper than a kit.

If you can get the number of the shop, and post it on here, that would be super because Id really like to give them a call and order 3 or 4 head gaskets just to keep on hand. It strange that their base gaskest are overpriced while their head gaskets are so cheap.

[TRI-Zbrian]

i just got doen ordering a top end gasket kit off of the net for 27$ plus shipping and it came to around 35$ shipped lol i cant remember ware i ordered it from because i was PMd the web site and after i ordered it i erased it from my pm box... maybe the person that PMd me will chime in and inlighten me on the site again :D also i will look up the number tomorow for you to that place i was talking about.. but the price to ship it to you might be the same as buying a gasket kit from the sight i got mine from or from dennis kirk.

[Howdy]

i hope that price isnt for just the head gasket man other wise you are getting ripped off big time i can buy a head gasket for 8$ over here.


i was wrong on that its 8$ for the base gasket and 17$ for the head gasket


yes lol there is a shop here named nesco that if i herd them right over the phone would sell me a head gasket for 17 bucks and a base gasket for 8 bucks i dont know if it was a special deal or not but thats the price i got... but i am in there alot and know them so i dont know if that has anything to do with it lol i didnt know that they were that expensive you can buy a whole top end gasket kit from dennis kirk for 30 something bucks made by vesrah or how ever you spell that


i just got doen ordering a top end gasket kit off of the net for 27$ plus shipping and it came to around 35$ shipped lol i cant remember ware i ordered it from because i was PMd the web site and after i ordered it i erased it from my pm box... maybe the person that PMd me will chime in and inlighten me on the site again :D also i will look up the number tomorow for you to that place i was talking about.. but the price to ship it to you might be the same as buying a gasket kit from the sight i got mine from or from dennis kirk.

I am totally confused here. I can understand the mistake in the first post. It was corrected in the second post. Then in the 3rd post you say:

"yes lol there is a shop here named nesco that if i herd them right over the phone would sell me a head gasket for 17 bucks and a base gasket for 8 bucks i dont know if it was a special deal or not but thats the price i got... but i am in there alot and know them "

Then in your last post you said:
"i just got doen ordering a top end gasket kit off of the net for 27$ plus shipping and it came to around 35$ shipped lol i cant remember ware i ordered it from because i was PMd the web site and after i ordered it i erased it from my pm box... "

Let s see you can get the gaskets for $17 there. But yet you ordered a set off the net for $27 shipped.
What's up with that? Why would you pay $27 ( $35 shipped ) if you can get them there for less?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................................ .............

Howdy

[TRI-Zbrian]

its because i have to drive about an hour to get to that "nesco" yamaha dealer i was talking about and id rather pay a little extra for shipping and have it come to my house.... because right now i dont have a car on the road to get any ware and rides are hard to come by.

also i payed 35$ shipped for all of the top end gaskets not just the head and base gasket so i thought it was a bit of a better deal then buying them individualy..... that and i have no way of getting to that other place to get the gaskets there.

[TimSr]

I have never found a dealer yet that would not ship to me as long as I paid for it. It wouls be well worth it for me to pay shipping. Bikebandit sells them for $30.52 which would be $91.56 for 3 of them + shipping. If I can get three of them for $51 Id be happy to kick in $10 or even $20 shipping! To tell you the truth, I wouldnt mind ordering about 20 of them and selling them on Ebay. If you can find their number I really want to talk with them.

[Howdy]

its because i have to drive about an hour to get to that "nesco" yamaha dealer i was talking about and id rather pay a little extra for shipping and have it come to my house.... because right now i dont have a car on the road to get any ware and rides are hard to come by.

also i payed 35$ shipped for all of the top end gaskets not just the head and base gasket so i thought it was a bit of a better deal then buying them individualy..... that and i have no way of getting to that other place to get the gaskets there.

Can you give us the name of the dealer and the town? I will look it up from there. Or is this dealer not really a dealer, just someone that sells stuff?
Howdy

[TRI-Zbrian]

omg lol sorry guys i called my buddy down there and that 17$ was for me because i am a regular person there in the shop and buy alot there... he said the normal price is 30$..... thats messed up why can you buy complete top end gasket kits off of the net for like 35$ shipped but pay 30$ for just the head gasket through the yamaha dealer?

[Howdy]

The story keeps changing here. You won't post thier Name, Town, or Phone number?? But yet you called them? What is up with that?

If this place does exist what is the big deal with giving out their info? Come on I am sure they would welcome more buisness.

Or could it be this was all just a bunch of BS?

Howdy

[TRI-Zbrian]

The story keeps changing here. You won't post thier Name, Town, or Phone number?? But yet you called them? What is up with that?

If this place does exist what is the big deal with giving out their info? Come on I am sure they would welcome more buisness.

Or could it be this was all just a bunch of BS?

Howdy


NESCO- FUN FOR SALE
www.nesco-funforsale.com
287-3140

but again i was wrong on the price you guys were right on the head gasket price they want 30$ for a head gasket there so getting ahold of them isnt going to do you any good.

[twgranger]

Put on the boots the sh*t is getting DEEP! :D

[TRI-Zbrian]

5 38W-11181-00-00 GASKET, CYL.HEAD 1 $31.75


thats right off of there sight.... sorry guys i was wrong i could have sworn the guy ment thats what they sold them for.

[TimSr]

yeah the head gasket has to take alot more then a clutch cover gasket will ever see.... its up to you man but id buy a new one.... and another thing i hope that price isnt for just the head gasket man other wise you are getting ripped off big time i can buy a head gasket for 8$ over here.

Now that we are all enlightened, is there anything youd like to say to Goku?

[TRI-Zbrian]

i am sorry for giving false info...... but again like i said a whole top end gasket kit can be had for 35$ shipped.... it may not be oem but ive never had problems with aftermarket gasket kits before.... why go through all that trouble to use the old head gasket when u could just save up a bit of money and buy a new one. if it happend ounce and you havent done anything to the engine to correct it... then chances are its going to happen again... thats all im trying to say, with out first tracking the problem down and fixing it its just going to happen again.... expecialy with a gasket thats already been used and blown. im not trying to sound like a jerk man im just trying to save you from pulling the top end apart for a 3rd time. im not saying im an expert or anything but i do have a bit of experience around engines and this just sounds like its asking to blow again.

im truly sorry again for wasting your guys time on that price.

[J.D.]

yeah the head gasket has to take alot more then a clutch cover gasket will ever see.... its up to you man but id buy a new one.... and another thing i hope that price isnt for just the head gasket man other wise you are getting ripped off big time i can buy a head gasket for 8$ over here.

Now that we are all enlightened, is there anything youd like to say to Goku?

Nope I think it's all been summed up. I'm gonna use your advice, take it apart and CopperCoat it, and put some extra torque on the nuts. Smokinwrench told me I should go with 25 ft/lbs, does that sound about right?

[TRI-Zbrian]

all i was trying to do is help you out man.... if you want to go with that plan to fix it that way.... i guess its worth a try but all i was trying to do was save you from having to tare it down for a 3rd time.... make sure to post back and tell us all how this works out for you man.

[CHAINSAW]

how hard is taking off a head and changing a gasket brian? You make it sound likes a 4 day job. Sure Ill be the first to tell you "Do it right the first time" but I reuse gaskets all the time to. It takes a whole 5 minutes to change a head gasket. 7 bolts, and 2 hose clamps.. boom its off, change gaskets, re tighten and your off.
Specs calls for 18 ft lbs of tq. for the head. calls for 25 on the cylinder. I wouldnt go more then 20-22, but hell.. I dont use a torque wrench... lol

[Dirtcrasher]

Hey guys - I can get those gaskets even cheaper!! My brothers, friends cousin hangs sheetrock for a dude that use to work at a plant that makes them. His buddies mom owns the Triz-gasket factory after an inheritance when a robbery went bad or the guy got shot in a hunting accident, I'm not sure but thats what I was told. And I shovel his driveway when it snows in California so he takes good care of me and I'll post all the info as soon as the computer guy fixes my hard drive because my sisters friend spilled kool aid on the keyboard - LOL - but I should have it back tomorrow. The computer guy owes me a favor cuz he thinks my cousins perty ;)

[CHAINSAW]

I think I smell a rat!! :D

[J.D.]

Hey guys - I can get those gaskets even cheaper!! My brothers, friends cousin hangs sheetrock for a dude that use to work at a plant that makes them. His buddies mom owns the Triz-gasket factory after an inheritance when a robbery went bad or the guy got shot in a hunting accident, I'm not sure but thats what I was told. And I shovel his driveway when it snows in California so he takes good care of me and I'll post all the info as soon as the computer guy fixes my hard drive because my sisters friend spilled kool aid on the keyboard - LOL - but I should have it back tomorrow. The computer guy owes me a favor cuz he thinks my cousins perty ;)

AWESOME! Let us know when you get the hookup ;);)

[timex69]

if you spill coolaid on your keyboard man how does that affect your hard drive?

[twgranger]

if you spill coolaid on your keyboard man how does that affect your hard drive?What? :?

[plkmonster2]

His buddies mom owns the Triz-gasket factory after an inheritance when a robbery went bad or the guy got shot in a hunting accident, I'm not sure but thats what I was told. And I shovel his driveway when it snows in California LOL! What a great story! :D :D

[mudduck14843]

if i have a head gasket that is not very old and in good shape i use it.I'm running over 200psi comp and a used head gasket.all you need to do is heat the whole thing up to red hot(stove burner works great) then dip it in cold water really fast it will soften the metal so it will seal.

[J.D.]

Copper coat and 30 ft/lbs of torque on the nuts seems to have done it. Thanks for the help TimSr.