View Full Version : spring break project ??
jonus079
02-17-2004, 10:40 PM
today in class i was thinking about what i was going to do over spring break (besides party). i was thinking about putting on rear suspention for my 200s. then i thought about the 185s i had laying around. i got it at the end of summer for $36 almost complete (just missing gas tank). well i started to think how cool it would be to make a 185x. but there were a few things i was worried about. the first thing is that i would want to make it a manual clutch, but i want to use the same bottom end as the 185s. i figured with a little work i could do it but im not sure if the clutch in the 185 could take it because that clutch is only used when shifting. do you think it could take constant use? another thing is i would want to make a steel swing arm from box steel i have laying around but not sure if it would work right. the last thing i would want to do is use maybe a 200x front end. do you think it would fit? im guessing the bearing arent the same but i dont have a 200x to compare it to.
yeah and i dont want to spend over $100. think its possible?
http://www.ipichost.com/data/263/1077075209p7260004.jpg
plkmonster2
02-18-2004, 12:47 AM
I've made a 110 a manual clutch. It takes some work, but it does work. You would need to take off the right cover, when your on the trike, and you will see the activator that causes the clutch to slip when shifting. You would need to remove that whole mechanism, and rig up something that can push the assembly in when you want to. I just removed the activator arm, and then rigged up a arm that had threads that were real aggressive and would push in very fast when turned. Then put an arm on that, and hooked up a clutch lever to where the rear brake goes. The motor never has ran, but I'm sure it would work by replicating what the shifter does.
short4stuff
02-18-2004, 06:57 AM
hmm plk , you would not happen to have the set up of what you did to the inside would you ??? like the mods.?? I think I could be interested.
plkmonster2
02-18-2004, 09:46 PM
I don't have pics of the motor, but I could draw up a few diagrams. In fact, I could take pics of the 110 I have apart now, and show what goes where.
smokinp
02-18-2004, 10:51 PM
I'd like to see some pics aswell...
82atc110
02-19-2004, 12:29 AM
I really need to see some pics of that setup
short4stuff
02-19-2004, 12:35 PM
yea i want to see pics, you think this would work on a tri-moto 175 too?
the only thing is, i dont think you would be able to stall it right? so all it would do is take the clutch from your foot and move it to your hand right.
whatever it would be neat to try.
jonus079
02-19-2004, 01:18 PM
here are some diagrams of how i think it would work. sorry but im not very good with computer graphics but its better than nothing. im at college right now so i cant take any pictures. once i get home ill try to post some picture for this setup. after you lock the centrifical clutch then you do whats shown in the picture or something like thats. another way you could do it is directly hook it to the exsisting clutch lever inside the case but im not sure that would give you the proper leverage and you would have to drill the hole very low in the case which would prolly make it leak. crap im late for class !!
http://www.ipichost.com/data/263/1077211023engine_cover.gif
short4stuff
02-19-2004, 09:49 PM
what does fulcrum mean???
I sort of understand the idea, i would understand better if I knew exatley how it worked.
Could you do it with a tri-moto 175
plkmonster2
02-19-2004, 10:08 PM
These diagrams don't show the full picture. I'll take pics of the 110 I have now. You dont remove much. What you said to remove is what is needed. The fullcrum is what needs to be removed. The fulrum rotates the round discs with balls to push the clutch in. Ill get some pics tonight, and show what needs to be done. And BTW, the assembly comes out of the original hole that the screw and nut come out of. I had to screw on a lever that could be removed later, to the screw. The screw would either be welded or screwed onto the sort of round piece, to the lower left of 15, on the diagram. As it rotates, the balls in #14 get out of the grooves, and cause the assembly to expand, making the clutch let go.
jonus079
02-19-2004, 10:24 PM
sorry i cant make it more clear. it would really help to show pictures but im far from home. when i get home ill post some pictures but thats not gunna be for 2 weeks or so. thats when i go home for spring break!!!! yaya!!!!
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