New Headlight Sockets (Focused on the White Plastic style first)

[ps2fixer]

I've found a source for the white headlight sockets. Going to structure this thread just like my other thread on the neutral/reverse dash light socket thread. I also have a few sources for the 350x style headlights, the ones with the dust boots are pretty pricey though.

I should have up to 87 covered for all Honda models with headlights. Wouldn't mind to dive into the other brands some time too. Might have to use find on page to find your machine.

Headlight socket style:
White plastic style - I'll add a photos later, but it's the type that the bulb goes into the socket, then the socket twist locks into the back of the headlamp.
350x style - 3 prong socket that twist locks into the back of the head lamp, bulb base has one locator nub and is sandwitched between the socket and headlamp. This has two contacts at the bulb base for bright + dims.
H4 - common motorcycle style headlight, there's no socket to this one, the bulb also is where the connector plugs into it. Bulb clamps into the back of the head lamp.
Sealed beam - bulb and headlamp are all one unit, the whole thing has to be replaced when the bulb burns out.

Parts based on part numbers. Bold = I have enough info to mod/reproduce the part.

350x style sockets

33130-051-690 (350x style) - in production still

ATC70
ATC70K1
ATC90
ATC90K1
ATC90K2
ATC90K3
76-78 ATC90



33130-943-003 (350x style) - 3ww Shop (http://shop.3wheelerworld.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=304_307_317&product_id=442)

79-80 ATC110


33130-HA5-003 (350x style) - 3ww Shop (http://shop.3wheelerworld.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=304_307_311&product_id=402)

85-86 ATC350X


White Plastic Style

33130-958-013 (White plastic style)

81-82 ATC110
81-83 ATC185S
81-83 ATC200
82-83 ATC200E
84 ATC200ES
84-85 ATC200M


33130-943-013 (White plastic style) - should have this on the 84 & 85 ATC125M parts machines I have

83-85 ATC110
84-85 ATC125M
84-86 ATC200S
85-86 TRX125



Others

33130-292-033 (odd one, not sure if this is the white plastic style? partzilla has it linked to the whole light assembly which might use a different socket type) - in production as a full assembly

80 ATC185


33130-HB6-000 (similar to white plastic style, but mounts differently) bought a cheap one to have on hand

86-87 ATC125M
86-88 TRX200SX


H4 Style

33130-950-013 (H4 style)

81-82 ATC250R
80 FL250 Odyssey


33120-965-003 (H4 style)

83-85 ATC200X


33120-964-003 (H4 style)

83-84 ATC250R


33100-HA0-003 (H4 style)

85-87 ATC250ES


33120-HA2-003 (H4 style)

85 ATC250SX
85 ATC250R


33120-HA2-671 (H4 style)

86-87 ATC200X
86 ATC250R
86-87 ATC250SX



NON-ATC Parts


350x style sockets

33130-HA7-751 - Lower helper lights (350x style)

87-89 TRX350D



White Plastic Style

33130-950-003 (White plastic style I think)

77-79 FL250 Odyssey


33130-VM5-003 (white plastic style?)

84 TRX200


33130-HA8-003 (white plastic style)

85-87 TRX250


33130-HC3-000 (white plastic style)

87-88 TRX125


Others

33250-HA7-671 - Lower helper lights (T10 rubber socket style I think)

86-87 TRX350


H4 Style

33120-HC0-003 (H4 style)

87-92 TRX250X
92-2006 TRX300EX


33120-HB9-771 (H4 style)
88-89 TRX250R

33120-HB9-003 (H4 style)

86-87 TRX250R


33120-HA7-670 & 33120-HA7-671 (H4 style)

86-87 TRX350
88-89 TRX350D


33120-950-013 (H4 style)

81-84 FL250 Odyssey

[ps2fixer]

Reserved post if first post gets too large

[ps2fixer]

I just ordered 20 qty of the white plastic style sockets from the source I found. Hopefully they are a perfect match to OEM. If anyone needs this style of socket, let me know.

Also made and listed 79-80 atc110 headlight socket based on photos.

[ps2fixer]

Just got the sockets in. Plastic quality seems good, the metal part of the socket isn't bad, but it does have a couple unwanted features lol. The contacts just push out, no resistance at all, the holes are too big. Since it's so easy to remove them, maybe I can find where to buy the contacts to crimp them on my wiring and have a good fit. Also the wire size isn't half bad, it isn't Chinese junk wire, its not too bad Taiwan made wiring. All crimps look pretty good and insulators are 100x better than the Chinese ones. Only thing I see that's a huge no go for me is the ground wire. It's wrapped over the plastic socket and the metal socket presses against it, not soldered or rivited like OEM. About 5lbs of pull on the wire pulls it out.

I'll have to see what I can do to fix these issues, good news is, I get to use my wiring instead of an unknown quality wire. I was hoping I could just crimp new connectors on them and have them good to go, oh well, more parts I have to extensively mod lol.

Here's some photos as I get them. Of course my cam want's to be garbage today, need to get something better some time.

Oh and I test fitted it on an ATC200ES headlight, and they fit well. Should be very usable once I figure out how to fix the issues. Clearly the ground wire is my #1 problem and soldering it to the metal housing shouldn't be too hard to do.

[ps2fixer]

Tested out soldering the wire to the metal part of the socket, and it works out well enough. I'll probably need to epoxy or glue the plastic to the metal so it doesn't come apart on anything, nothing over kill, just something rather than nothing.

Also... look what I found, hopefully these will work out well. Japanese made is always a nice bonus. Too bad I can't find the flat style anywhere for the ignition switches and such I work with.

https://i.gyazo.com/2dc6b1c8f4310da8c90cd6cca23c0a37.png

[Dirtcrasher]

You certainly do allot of work to get things right!! Although I have tried to be as open as possible, sales are still not that great.

I did sell all 15 350X headlight guards that I made, and got 100% feedback, but CHRIST!! The questions people have are ludicrous!! Even with a 100% MBG...

Even when making a new awesome product that meets or exceeds OEM, it's not always an easy sale.

I can only speak for myself, you do an amazing job with your reproductions, it's not easy to try and make a few bucks on things you make with a passion.

Just understand that some of us do appreciate the products you offer...

[ps2fixer]

Yea, I've kind of wondered why I haven't had more issues like that. I'm guessing most people don't do so well with electrical, so they just buy it lol. Mechanical parts I'm guessing people would be worried if the welds are good, the metal quality, the paint quality, etc. Like headlight guards are likely more of a fashion accessory than a functional item, even though it has the side benefit of protecting the headlight.

I guess the other factor is, I really don't pay myself much, I price based on what I feel the market would pay, or if I needed the part, what I'd be willing to pay (I'm cheap though and shop around etc all the time).

The way I figure it, if I can offer the part and make it avaiable, as long as I don't have a huge amount of money tied up into it, I don't really care if it sits for a year before I make a sale. I just know only stock 1 at a time. Depending what it is, I might throw a listing on 3ww shop too, so 2 stock. I have one part I have 13 of, and estimated time to sell out is 4900 days lol. Basically 1 sale per year.

Anyway, this Taiwan wire isn't half bad, little smaller than my wire, probably around 20 gauge, maybe 22. I started poking around ideas, and a layer of heat shrink over the crimp stiffens it up in the hole pretty well. Little dab of liquid electrical tape (epoxy would be better, but it's what I have on hand), and the terminals don't just bug out when messing with the wires. The first ground spot I tried is alright, but I have a new idea for it now. Orig idea was to use the same location it goes though the plastic housing and solder it to the metal socket, new idea is to solder it on the side of the socket, and run it down the center hole. Hopefully there's enough room for the wire run, and it should be able to press all the way like they come to me.

Also pulled my OEM socket from a 200es to compare, and it's a slightly different look, but overall functions the same. The bulb fits these sockets well too. Pretty happy with them overall after a bit of work. I'll probably be putting my own terminals in it with my wire once they come, but for short term I'll reuse their white/blue wire and test the market out on ebay. Still not sure what a fair price would be, they sell used pretty cheap. Probably try $20 to sample the market, and bump it to $25 once I "upgrade" them with all my wire and Japanese terminals. Probably still have to glue them in since the holes are so big.

Kind of having a feeling these will be one of those items I'll sell one in a great while, but nothing special. Just like the neutral/reverse sockets (no sales from them and I have like 10 models made, oh well). There's NOS headlight sockets selling for $20 shipped.

I'll just keep throwing parts out there, something will stick lol.

Update:

I think I figured out an alright process. Soldering isn't perfect, but not too bad going to such a large metal object.