1985 Honda 200X

[knappyfeet]

As some of you know I sold this 200 to a very nice neighbors son before Halloween. I collected the $400 and it continued to sit in my garage til last week when I gave him back his money. It sat here and I thought there wasn't much interest so we discussed it and everyone is happy with no I'll will/bad feelings by either of us.......in fact I feel everyone has a sense of relief.

The entire reason for selling was there wasn't enough room for this and a 250R. I haven't found a 250R yet so I thought I would just bring this up to speed and try to make the room for both. Also....there is a good chance an old 79 FL250 odyssey might find its way to our possession but that's later. So for now.....I want to address this little units problems and perform routine maintenance.......perhaps an exhaust as some fine tuning was always an interest to me. If for whatever reason when the R finds its way to my possession and the 2 don't get a long I will figure out what to do next.

Just a couple of pics

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[Aulbaugh]

Yeah I remember this deal. That is a nice trike for that kinda money.

[barnett468]

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If it looks as good in person as it does in the photo and there is nothing major wrong with it I will gladly give you $400.00 for it so please let me know . I may (or may not :lol:) live just up the 15 freeway north of you . You can pm me regarding it if you want.

Hope you have a safe and happy New Years Eve.



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[El Camexican]

Sweet trike!

If you do sell it beware of buyers that ask for credit terms. Seems to be a few deadbeats out there as of late.

[knappyfeet]

Thanks guys. It runs great and minimal valve line noise. By looking at the bolts and some other fasteners.......the motor looks to be a virgin...never opened.

There were a couple of members here locally who were interested and if I remember 468 is just a little up north so it would go to someone who can see it in person.

But for now I'm just going to do the maintenance and use it. It is leaking from adjustment covers o rings.....maybe somewhere underneath. It leaked noticibly when I did my own personal imperial invasion 2015......that's where the dust came from.

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[barnett468]

There were a couple of members here locally who were interested and if I remember 468 is just a little up north so it would go to someone who can see it in person.

Yup, near Lake Elsinore which is only around 70 miles from the bay and the boat harbor in SD so it's an easy drive straight down the 15 if you are in that general area . I can come down in what now seems to be a "collectible" 10 cylinder Dodge Ram Dually and we can toss it in there . I for one definitely won't be asking to make payments, lol . If we come down it might also be a good excuse to rent a boat at the harbor again afterwards . We have done that a few times and like to just cruise around and check out the huge battleships and yachts etc.



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[Aulbaugh]

I can come down in what now seems to be a "collectible" 10 cylinder Dodge Ram Dually and we can toss it in there .

What year Dodge Dually? IMO, no way would a gas engine Dually be a collector. Especially if it was produced during the years the 12 valve cummins were used.

Knappy, like you said, I'd hold onto and use it.

[barnett468]

What year Dodge Dually? IMO, no way would a gas engine Dually be a collector. Especially if it was produced during the years the 12 valve cummins were used.


It is a 2001 and I put the word collectible in quotations to try and suggest that the comment was meant more in jest than in fact, however, for some reason many people that see it comment about it and several have asked me if I will sell it including one of the gardeners that occasionally comes over to do some work on our yard whom calls me about it a couple times a month . I bought it around 10 years ago for $7,000.00 and have been offered a fair bit more than that recently . It has a mini cab with doors and a shell and running boards and heated leather seats and factory wheel caps etc and currently only has around 43,000 miles on it and it is in near mint condition.


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[Aulbaugh]

That is very low miles on that year Dodge! The 2nd generation Dodge Ram is a sought after truck(especially ones with the Cummins). They are getting harder to find in nice condition.

[barnett468]

Oh barn .........happy Norco to you ! ........twas a week before x-mas coming home from Veggy ........2 hr. delay in Norco makes me realize any thing north of Temeca-leca-high .......meca-chiney-hole ........sucks donkey balls !!!!........ and those `01 dog-ram pickup`s look like a schlong that was made by Peterbilt .......don`t do it Knappy !!!!! GTFO :rolleyes::Bounce:rolleyes::Bounce:rolleyes::Bounc e:rolleyes::Bounce:rolleyes::Bounce

Not quite Norco thank God and fortunately the traffic here is only moderately bad during busy hours, however, that is fairly irrelevant to me since I rarely need to leave our little house on the hill and most of the time when I do need to leave I can do it when I want so I won't be stuck in the fracas . The freeways North of us are basically stopped during traffic hours, it's nuts . Lots of people that work in LA and OC thought it would be a brilliant idea to buy a house in the IE where they were half the price then spend over 2 hours each way going to and from work.

I hate driving long distances now especially since "I can't drive 55!" so I started taking Southwest to Vegas even though Vegas isn't all that far away . We either fly out of O.C. or Ontario cuz their close and not nearly the zoo that LA is.

....and Knappy....yes do it and do it soon!


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[Ghostv2]

I thought you were insane for selling it for that price but I understood why. But I'm glad it worked in your favor??

But again, clean it up and throw it on eBay. You will triple that price tag easy. In PA, an all OEM western trike like that is easily $1,200. Easily. Good luck brother, I hope you find a home for someone who can appreciate what it is and how it's been preserved. I'm kinda glad a young kid didn't get it. Even though all us trike nuts started somewhere beating the snot out of a nice trike.

[knappyfeet]

Hey Knappy theres a nice 250R on c-list in San Marcos he`s asking 1,900 i`d try 15 ........are you coming out for invasion ?

Hey glamy...........I don't think I'm going to make it. My sister in law from Ohio is coming out mid week for a trip to Vegas....presidents day stuff. I might try to scoot out there for a day or so just to meet some folks and put a face to the name. Where are you guys setting up?

I did that before on another forum but I just set up my avatar on Fiesta island. One guy said he saw it from the 5. Had a great time with family and new friends red cupping the brewskies.........but you know the fuzz knows what's up. I guess they see a bunch of fat old guys listening to classic country and pay little attention.....unlike the youngsters being held upside down for the beer anima......... crazy niggas.

I didn't see the one in San Mucus but apparently Jimmie Johnsons old 85 R is in Alpine on CL. $2000

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/snw/5928711520.html

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[HairyJR]

Where are you guys setting up?

I'm not on FB where all the talk and buss about this years Invasion but believe camp will be located in the same location as the last couple years "Dune Buggy Flats". As the Invasion starts on Friday 2/10 there's no reason the San Diego locals can't drive 2 hours east and send the day with fellow travelers.

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[knappyfeet]

On a baseball diamond ........right center feild or ? .......anything i can help you with knappy just LMK . .....any ring chatter at idle ?

I'm going to ride up there on Monday on my DR. I'm working the weekend and leaving for Vegas Wednesday so Monday will probably be it..........unless I can scoot out of work early on Sunday and just bring the rv and everything up on Sunday. I guess I just need to know what to look for..........a whole bunch of trikes?

Thanks for the words of encouragement ghost. I'm happy it's here still but mine.

[Jwheeler]

Hey good morning Knappy , I'm still interested in the trike !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[knappyfeet]

Good morning J.

I'm just going to do some maintenance on it and correct a couple of things......then use it for a few trips we have planned.

You know it's yours when I'm ready to sell.

[knappyfeet]

The engine underneath was quite dirty and gunked up with old oil and dirt mixed after I removed the skid plate.

Since I know the tappet o-rings are leaky (especially the front).........the next step is simple. Thoroughly clean and degrease the entire engine and after I install the new o-rings run the engine for a couple of heat cycles to see if I have any other areas of concern.

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[350for350]

Might think about replacing the chain and sprockets too. That front sprocket looks like it has some pretty good wear on it.

[itsjacob]

The engine underneath was quite dirty and gunked up with old oil and dirt mixed after I removed the skid plate.

Since I know the tappet o-rings are leaky (especially the front).........the next step is simple. Thoroughly clean and degrease the entire engine and after I install the new o-rings run the engine for a couple of heat cycles to see if I have any other areas of concern.

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What and where are these tappet Orings, mine has alot of oil down there too and would like to change some Orings, just for maintenance

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[Ghostv2]

What and where are these tappet Orings, mine has alot of oil down there too and would like to change some Orings, just for maintenance

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The valve cover O-Rings.

[ArizonaATC]

400!? holy smokes haha, that's a 3 grand bike around my part.

[knappyfeet]

A nice crack on the front fender. I haven't welded plastic in years. Looks like a repair was attempted at one point. Good eye on the sprockets 350

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My way of cleaning a carb. I like the dip to get warm so I use the space heater to heat it up. I also have a tumbler set up for a 30/70 acid bath but this won't need that. What this pic doesn't show is one of the most important parts...high pressure air. Also I have an old burner that I use to heat up the rinse water......not to boiling but pretty darn warm. It's a great method for a solid rinse of either the dip or phosphoric acid.


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[knappyfeet]

A little more disassembly on a rainy day. Some orings installed and parts ordered.

Has a small hole in the exhaust. In fact this entire exhaust feels "loosey goosey". Still like to get that Kerker but how are those DG exhausts on ebay? There's a used bassani on there but that looks like work.

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[Evan Hagenow]

A buddy has a DG on his 86 200x and it is just obnoxiously loud. Its one of those sounds that is loud, doesnt sound good and just drones on. You cant block it out. They are a brand new exhaust which is nice, but I wouldn't put one on. To loud for my taste.

In other news, that trike is in amazing shape. If that were my trike I dont think I could sell it for the fact that its pretty darn clean for its age, used but not abused. Clean ones like that are getting more and more rare.

[knappyfeet]

A buddy has a DG on his 86 200x and it is just obnoxiously loud. Its one of those sounds that is loud, doesnt sound good and just drones on. You cant block it out. They are a brand new exhaust which is nice, but I wouldn't put one on. To loud for my taste.

Thanks for the info.......I'll keep looking then.

I inderstand what you mean about loud. Some exhaust have a tendency to make things sound loud and broken.

[Ghostv2]

Are you looking for performance or quietness? Unfortunately your options are limited aside from custom building an exhaust. I personally think the DG's are loud, but not anything that would prevent me from buying them. You can still buy a brand new supertrapp slip on silencer and run the desired amount of discs and maybe that'll quiet it down some. Or you can buy any old silencer and do some bending and make it fit.

But again, what are you trying to gain from this? Personally I wouldn't be worried about no pin hole in my silencer. Unless your looking for performance.

[knappyfeet]

But again, what are you trying to gain from this? Personally I wouldn't be worried about no pin hole in my silencer. Unless your looking for performance.

I had a Bassani on my 350X and I liked the performance and the sound. The stock system on my 86 200X sounded like a sewing maching but was well tuned from Honda. This one is loose and kinked and it would be nice to replace. I can repair it if need be but if I have any $$ left in my personal capped budget of $400 for this 200X then I will look for something.

Right now I found out why my back brakes don't work. The master is seized and this one looks nasty. When I get back from Vegas I'll try all my recipes to unstuck it and rebuild.

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[Rob Canadian]

My rear master was worse than that. Piston was a bit of a bugger to get out. I had to do the last resort. Drill hole in the piston, screw in a self tapping screw and pry it out. Bore was still in good shape. Rebuild kit and away I went.

No performance gains in aftermarket exhausts on a stock engine. There was a test done long time ago. Not sure if the sheet was posted up here(?) I am sure it was...

I have been looking around myself for a different exhaust. Not DG though. I have a Cobra muffler on my bike (XL250R) I like the sound of it.

[knappyfeet]

New sprocket and chain.

It really looked worn when compared side to side

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[knappyfeet]

My niece gave me an Amazon gift card for Christmas so I used it for a new grab bar.

But looking at the tool box I was wondering if a 250sx toolbox would fit my 200X. I think it might but was wondering if anyone here may know better.

It's not the end of the world if I don't have one but I have the tools so a functional toolbox would be nice.

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[knappyfeet]

Rear caliper was stuck.

When you add up the cost of the rebuild kit and pads and a parking brake block off plate I could buy one of those new ones on ebay for nearly the same. It would be entirely new........ shinnier and less work but. .......I guess not original.

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[knappyfeet]

Piston looks serviceable.Although there's corrosion on the caliper housing I'll just clean it and rebuild.

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[ironchop]

I just started the same on my 86. I scored a rear caliper for $35 with "stripped out pins. Stuck". Took me fifteen minutes to get the hex pins out. I stripped off the paint too while I had to stripped down to the housing but after new seals and whatnot, I'll have a caliper that's near new for $75.

I'm glad you rebuilt the old one. With a new unit, you're only gaining a new housing and pistons which usually don't wear out any time soon anyway.

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[knappyfeet]

I just started the same on my 86. I scored a rear caliper for $35 with "stripped out pins. Stuck". Took me fifteen minutes to get the hex pins out. I stripped off the paint too while I had to stripped down to the housing but after new seals and whatnot, I'll have a caliper that's near new for $75.

Perfect. $75 is great

Once I let the entire caliper soak in the phosphoric acid mix it cleaned the powder coating on the caliper nicely. There some pitting on the parking brake side but it will work. I purchased "El cheapo" pads for $7......a rebuild kit for the caliper for $17...... and a blue block plate (I don't know why I chose blue) for $15. So for $40.....the price of a new China one on ebay.........I will have a solid performing rebuilt original.

The only thing I cheaply painted thus far are the foot pegs and perhaps will do the skid plate. I just strip and prime and paint with a dupli-color paint. Not very durable but very easy.

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[knappyfeet]

A quick acid bath for the disc cleans it up.

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[TriMotoMan]

I'm running one of those new brake calipers you have pictured
I got it off ebay and it works great!

[knappyfeet]

I'm running one of those new brake calipers you have pictured
I got it off ebay and it works great!

The ones on ebay........are the bleeder screw in the same position? From the listing pic it didn't look like it was.

This Moose block plate is crap........c......r.....a.....p.....crap. I thought it would at least have an o-ring.....nothing. I'll get something better.

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[knappyfeet]

So are you gonna sell this and get a 250r or Banshee ?

I would rather have a 250R than a banshee. My nephews have banshees. Nice mounts but a well sorted out R for me sounds good.

I'm going to keep this X for a while. My wife is showing a tinnie, itsy bitsy, little.......minute interest in it so I want this one setup properly.

I just need to finish 2 of my projects before I do anything else. That's my goal post. This 200X and an old CB750 that I may setup for track days......I don't know yet. These have been sitting around for awhile so I need to complete

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[barnett468]

I just need to finish 2 of my projects before I do anything else.

ummm...I think what you need to do is sell me that old 71 Chevelle that is taking up so much room in your garage that could be used for storing a few more nice bikes.


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[HairyJR]

This 200X and an old CB750 that I may setup for track days......

Happyfeet is that old CB750 a Super Sport model with road race mods? What year? Any motor mods?

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[El Camexican]

whats the filter by the rear shock for ?

If that's a catch can it's pretty trick looking.

[ironchop]

I want to see a separate thread on that CB. That's an nice f#$@king ride there.

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[knappyfeet]

If i put one of those wittle airfilters on my mouth .....maybe my farts wouldn`t stank so bad ! .....whats the filter by the rear shock for ?

El is right on the mark.....it's a catch can. That pic is about a year old and some of the other items have changed since.......like the little breather filters on the side that just drip oil out when on the freeway.

[knappyfeet]

Happyfeet is that old CB750 a Super Sport model with road race mods? What year? Any motor mods?

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Its a 76 F. The build sheets fairly extensive but the motor mods are stock. I rebuilt it with OEM internals with perhaps one day getting into the engine if I ever wanted to race it. Lately I have been considering putting this into service.

For over a year I've been looking for a suitable track bike for WERA sportsman or similar that was already wired, safetied, etc.

I cam across this awhile back. It was 2K but from Canada and shipping would put the total investment at 3K. Suspension needed attention but the good this is is that it had a spare motor and almost enough parts for another motor. I still thought I could find something closer.

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Then this 350 came up and it was really what I wanted. It went for $2500 and from New Hampshire if I remember so shipping was around $600. The neat thing about it was it had a winning pedegree and numerous parts and mods that would make it somewhat competitive (excluding my lack of skills). It was absolutely ready to race. But at the time I had 2 trikes apart, my HT1 in progress and a yz250 apart. I've been married 28 years so I knew how far to push the boundaries of my addiction and felt this purchase might put it over the top so I stepped back.

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So I agreed to finish the bulk of my projects before I endeavor on another.

I'm also working on my HT1 but as indicated by the photo....it's almost completed so I really don't count that.

[knappyfeet]

I want to see a separate thread on that CB. That's an nice f#$@king ride there.

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Thanks Chop. As soon as I get a little ahead on this X I will.

I'm going to start the rear master. I don't think I can remember a time when any stuck master piston ever came out quietly. It's always been war for me

[knappyfeet]

Well I'll be damn....................no drilling required.

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[x-rider]

My c clip is welded in good(rusted). Any tips. I broke the clip ends.

[knappyfeet]

My c clip is welded in good(rusted). Any tips. I broke the clip ends.

In my case I let that area sit in wd40 overnight and it came off but was still stubborn.

I guess if I were in your shoes the first thing I would do is chemically remove the rust form that area. Chemically the 2 metals iron oxide (rust) bonded electrochemically with help from the current from the engine so I would use an evaporust or I like rustoleum rust dissolver to completely clean the area.

Then it would be just using small drill bits or a Dremel or something to be able to,use picks to get the remaining part of the clip off. But ultimately the rust needs to be dissolved completely......that is 80% of the job.

Good luck.

[x-rider]

Thanks for the tip. Your x is looking good.

[knappyfeet]

Thanks for the tip. Your x is looking good.

Thank you

The bore is not bad but there is terrible corrosion all over. By the time the acid works on the corrosion.....it might work on the finish as well. Might have to paint the body.

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[knappyfeet]

I've been considering some wheel spacers..........I've checked on ebay but I don't know if they are good or crap.

I'm into this so far for $188. My budget for this is $400 so if I have anything left.........making it safer for my bride would be ideal. $50 of what was spent so far was a gift card at Amazon. ....it wasn't technically out of my pocket but none the less I want to stay in budget. Everything so far came from Motoworld or ebay......so either OEM or China stuff.

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[knappyfeet]

Scratches on the swingarm........now you see them

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Now you dont.....

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Now that I'm part of a "team"......it will go faster

[Rob Canadian]

Hey Happy. You are going to have to remove the rear caliper to bleed it or something. Bleeder screw is on the downside. Air will be trapped in the top side.

Remove caliper and invert it and support it somehow and open up the bleeder screw. I let mine gravity bleed no problem.

[knappyfeet]

Hey Happy. You are going to have to remove the rear caliper to bleed it or something. Bleeder screw is on the downside. Air will be trapped in the top side.

Remove caliper and invert it and support it somehow and open up the bleeder screw. I let mine gravity bleed no problem.

Thanks for the tip.

Broke this fastener off at the head. It's for the heat shield of the headpipe. I guess this will make up for the easy rear master disassembly.

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Used the Eastwood Zinc kit to plate the old rusty master pin. I use both the the Eastwood and Caswell kits and the Caswell is superior but for this part........the Eastwood is just fine


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The front end may be a little "outta wack". The reason there is 2 different sliders on the front is one was really badly bent. Without getting everything measured out.......I simply used my sight and replaced the one fork that was very bent with a used one from an earlier year. But it still rides a little "cockeyed" and the axle holes don't lineup exactly straight.......indicating to me perhaps the other was slightly bent as well.

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A couple more "not so exciting parts in" and the rear master finished.

I thought I had some low gloss clear but I did not. So I cleared the master with high gloss to protect from brake fluid. Also I cut the mounting tab from the exhaust and found I have about 3 or 4 threads left on the other side.............so I'm going to weld it and see if it works.

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I wish the old gang was back. The only one I have left is in the middle. You can see how bad the forks where bent.......sometimes I wonder if something else isn't messed up as well.

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I'm going to service the exhaust system and use it......all in an effort to make my budget.

When I mean "service" it I mean fill the holes, clean the inside and install new gaskets......and de-rust anything and paint. This entire exhaust system was "loosey goosey".......primarily from the shaking loose head guard on the head pipe and non existent gasket at the header to muffler connection. A couple pics from the inspection camera of the inside indicates not much carbon build up. Maybe I'll just burn the inside.........that technique works well.

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Now that I got the inspection camera out ................piston looks a little carboned but the walls look clean and nice. The exhaust valve is crusty.

The pictures suck compared to viewing the camera but just to get an idea.

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Exhaust parts in. I welded the mount for the heat shield, painted and mounted.

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[6spdls1z28]

Looking good

[83ATC185]

How did you fix the rattly shield and what paint did you use? Looks good!

I apologize if its a stupid question i just haven't had mine off to look

[knappyfeet]

Looking good
Thanks 6spd..........it's been fun getting it together and challenging to stay in my $400 budget

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[knappyfeet]

How did you fix the rattly shield and what paint did you use? Looks good!

I apologize if its a stupid question i just haven't had mine off to look
A lot of heat shields over the years wear out the heat washer and tend to raddle obnoxiously. In my case it looked as if the threads started to back back out ever so slightly.

Letting them sit in wd40 for a couple nights helped me with one but the other broke off. So I just grounded the mount off carefully and reversed it and welded it back on. Then I used new bolts with a bigger head and installed after I painted. This one repair alone should make this 200 SO much more quieter.......as this was really loud before.

Everyone has their own recipe.........mine is POR 15 or PJ1.... in that order if I am using aerosol can finishes. It tends to last longer and goes on thicker for that powder coated look. Always "pickle" the metal if you can prior to painting.

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[knappyfeet]

The gas tank looks to have no rust anywhere.....and no dents. Will still clean it out of all that old gas smell and although the petcock seems clean enough if I have to replace it isn't very much. Once again the photos of the inspection camera don't tell the clear story that the screen tells but gives one a look anyways.

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[Rob Canadian]

Clean tank. It is coming along very nice. I have the dreaded heat sheild ratttttttle. LOL

What inspection camera do you use?

[barnett468]

....challenging to stay in my $400 budget


Looks like it's time to sell it to me before it eats you out of house and home! :Bounce


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[3 Wheel Drive]

Looks like it's time to sell it to me before it eats you out of house and home! :Bounce


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I thought you would be more of a KLT 110 or 250 guy?:wondering

Whats next, buying some fiberglass low pros and a big bore kit from Mickey? :lol:

[barnett468]

I thought you would be more of a KLT 110 or 250 guy?:wondering



Well, he was originally only asking $400.00 for it so for that price I would be more than happy to ride a "Honda....Makers Of The Second Most Powerful 3 Wheeler In The World!".


OMG...I think I just peed my pants!

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[knappyfeet]

Clean tank. It is coming along very nice. I have the dreaded heat sheild ratttttttle. LOL

What inspection camera do you use?
Thanks Rob. Mine rattled obnoxiously loud. I have the Harbor Freight high definition camera. Not the cheapo cheapo one.......just the cheapo one. Half the quality of the Dewalt one at a quarter of the price. I bought mainly for gas tank inspections.

Looks like it's time to sell it to me before it eats you out of house and home! :Bounce


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Speaking of eating out of house and home....where heading to your neck of the woods with family for some wine tasting and dinning today. Will probably spend $400 today on festivities and beef jerky. Half of us would be happy to chow down at Mad Madeline's but......you know the ladies.

The $400 budget was arbitrary. I figured since I was going to sell it for $400...and people who saw it were easily willing to pay $400 in its original condition....I thought my budget should be capped at $400 as well. So far I'm into my budget for $238.

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[knappyfeet]

Exhaust welded and installed. Tank buffed out and cleaned inside. Will wait till we return from Vegas to start the front.

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[Aulbaugh]

Still looking good Knappyfeet!

[knappyfeet]

Still looking good Knappyfeet!

Thanks man.

Started it up and it is much quieter. So much so that I never remember hearing so much valve line noise.

Rode it up and down the street and everything checks out fine after a couple of heat cycles.


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[Rob Canadian]

How did the rear brakes work out? Bleed out ok? How did you do it?

[knappyfeet]

How did the rear brakes work out? Bleed out ok? How did you do it?

The brakes bled out fine. I used a medical syringe and vinyl tubing.

It's nice to have predictable rear braking.

The front works but I will at minimum bleed the system.......I'm hoping the fluid is not to clumpy.

[knappyfeet]

Shroud cleaned up nicely. I'm going to need to paint the skid plate as it has seen many better days. The switch still looks nice but I will need to disassemble and clean/grease the internals as its a little difficult and clumsy to switch.

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Forgot to add........had some extra black molding lying around and I wanted to use it up so I put it around the lower edge of the tank. So 80s....whatever.

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[OZQUAD44]

Hey knappy, nice bit of work you have going on. Not sure about the moulding on the lower edge of the tank though, do you think that may serve as a moisture catchment area? I'd hate to see that survivor fuel tank start to rust.

I love this thread, just goes to show what a bit of elbow grease can do.


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[knappyfeet]

Hey knappy, nice bit of work you have going on. Not sure about the moulding on the lower edge of the tank though, do you think that may serve as a moisture catchment area? I'd hate to see that survivor fuel tank start to rust.

I love this thread, just goes to show what a bit of elbow grease can do.

Thank you sir.

You know.....I never gave it much thought concerning the moulding but your right. I can see where it could become a problem. Thanks for the heads up. I may remove it but at bare minimum I will keep a watchful eye on it.

Just want to add/edit.......for me this is an exercise in using simple elbow grease and attention to make improvements to things and be thrifty at the same time. I can easily blow past my $400 budget but the fun is trying to stay within that budget....all the while getting as much done as possible.

[barnett468]

The switch still looks nice but I will need to disassemble and clean/grease the internals...

And get some new screws. :)



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[knappyfeet]

And get some new screws. :)



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Haha......yeah they do look ugly don't they?

I'm going to dip them in phosphoric acid and clean them up. At the rate some are asking for OEM stuff that might be $20 a fastener:lol:

[knappyfeet]

I thought the headlight guard was bent from a rollover or something but looking at it closer.....it looks like it was welded crooked when manufactured. I might leave it off. You can see the sand and dirt on the inside of the switch........probably from many years of Imperial Invasions prior to me owning it.

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[knappyfeet]

Any thoughts or tips "tubing" an old tire? Front will hold air for about 3 days. When riding it will loose air in a day. Has some pretty nice age wear. I'd like to keep the tire as its original to the machine. The rears will hold air just fine.

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[OZQUAD44]

Knappy, replace the tyre mate. That is not something I would skimp on.


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[83ATC185]

I would leave it on there and if you decide to sell it, include a better tire with the sale and list the tire in the paperwork.

I might try to slime it myself, just to see if it would hold air.

[knappyfeet]

If you`re gonna sell it ......replace that tire........ I .....hurt myself today......because knappy did`nt change that tire .......everyone i know goes away in the end ......what do you do in Vegas ? .....are you the counting cars dude ? .....or ricks restorations ?
No......I'm not as cool as those cats.

I'm more like the....."I won the money...........the money is mine"..... dude from Vegas vacation

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[knappyfeet]

Knappy, replace the tyre mate. That is not something I would skimp on.


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I would leave it on there and if you decide to sell it, include a better tire with the sale and list the tire in the paperwork.

I might try to slime it myself, just to see if it would hold air.
It's like ebay wants all the money from my pocket and they want to touch my pee pee for a new Pro Vector.......geez! Even the used ones are not that much less and from the photos, they may not be much better than I have.....except they hold air.

I'll get a new one....you guys are right. What are all the popular kids buying these days....Cheng Chin?......Kenda?

They are not my favorite brands but I guess it's better than what I got.

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[barnett468]

I'd like to keep the tire as its original to the machine.

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[barnett468]

I'll get a new one....you guys are right. What are all the popular kids buying these days....Cheng Chin?......Kenda?

I don't like 2 ply tires but the Kenda K284 would probably be the closest looking to the Vector.

$56.00 NO TAX FREE SHIPPING

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[knappyfeet]

We certainly DO NOT want to touch your pee-pee ......but we are concerned with the possible faceplant and subsequent kick in the balls you might receive from said customer .........da money .......da money .....da money.....you sold me a defective 3wheeler ........i want your money ....da money ...da money
I know........ and I don't want my wife to faceplant as well. That's also bad for my sack.

I'll get the Kendall that 468 indicated.

It's a Papageorgio approved purchase..........

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I don't like 2 ply tires but the Kenda K284 would probably be the closest looking to the Vector.

$56.00 NO TAX FREE SHIPPING

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Thank you.

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Im a big fan of that kenda front tire. They claim its a 2 ply tire but the two I have wear extremely well and I have never had a flat or even had to add air to them. The control is also pretty good with no darting at high speeds.

[83ATC185]

i too have one on my 200x.

[knappyfeet]

i too have one on my 200x.


Im a big fan of that kenda front tire. They claim its a 2 ply tire but the two I have wear extremely well and I have never had a flat or even had to add air to them. The control is also pretty good with no darting at high speeds.
Pretty good reviews from folks who use them......thanks again.

I just purchased from the Amazon link 468 recommended. I didn't know it was Chaparral. Awesome possum place. Biggest motorcycle dealer/place I've ever been to.

With this purchase I'm at $300. I'm glad the front brake works and hope there's no more surprises.

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And get some new screws. :)



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OK 468.......better?

And it saved me $325 in OEM NOS bolts

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[knappyfeet]

The switches were cleaned and now functioning properly.

The high beam functioned 15% of the time and the engine kill switch never worked. I had to either pop the clutch or let it run out of fuel to turn off the motor.

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[knappyfeet]

throw em away there's always more !

There's always more LOL. I'm heading there right now for a dial indicator so I can see just how "outta wack" my fork tubes are. I got the coupon for a free set of screw drivers. :lol: Look for the big yellow truck & holla atchya boy.

Remember when they were on the corner of J and Broadway in Chula Vista?......I mean way back in the day.....early 90s? They were small back then. No where near what they are now.

[knappyfeet]

I noticed 1 dirty drop of oil on the garage floor under the 200X. Went to inspect and I can see where oil is seeping from somewhere. I know the pics don't show clearly but it's not from the shift or sprocket shafts seals. It looks like it's coming from the stator housing and perhaps either running to the underneath part of the motor or is also seeping from the lower case mating area.

I have ran it through a couple of heat cycles and also ran it up and down the street quite a few times.

I thought the stator was dry housing.



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[ironchop]

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I thought the stator was dry housing.

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[knappyfeet]

Nope. Wet.


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Thank you.

I may just purchase a complete kit on ebay just in case there are other leaks that develops.........not horribly more than the single gasket the dealer will charge.

[Evan Hagenow]

You never know when other 30 year old gaskets will fail. Everyone has their preference on gaskets but I have had pretty good luck with vesrah gaskets. Made in Japan and they seem to be good quality and pretty cheap to.

[shortline10]

Very common place for them to leak , the large rubber gasket is still available from your Honda dealer , also put a little Honda bond sealant were the stator wires come out of that case .



I noticed 1 dirty drop of oil on the garage floor under the 200X. Went to inspect and I can see where oil is seeping from somewhere. I know the pics don't show clearly but it's not from the shift or sprocket shafts seals. It looks like it's coming from the stator housing and perhaps either running to the underneath part of the motor or is also seeping from the lower case mating area.

I have ran it through a couple of heat cycles and also ran it up and down the street quite a few times.

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[knappyfeet]

Very common place for them to leak , the large rubber gasket is still available from your Honda dealer , also put a little Honda bond sealant were the stator wires come out of that case .
I didn't know that....thanks for the heads up. Now I know I'm looking in the right direction.

You never know when other 30 year old gaskets will fail. Everyone has their preference on gaskets but I have had pretty good luck with vesrah gaskets. Made in Japan and they seem to be good quality and pretty cheap to.
That was my thinking as well. I heard somewhere that Vesrah was a supplier to major Japanese manufacturing companies.......I really don't know though.

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[knappyfeet]

It's really hard when people don't use JIS drivers for JIS fasteners...... kinda looks like a swastika. Drilled out ok.

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A little disassembly. Might paint a few things. I don't like doing it unless everything gets refinished because it tends to stand out too much but some things need it here.

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Present from Chaparral. Smells nice.......makes me want to purchase 2 new rear tires as well. A couple other parts in as well

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This is my 1971 Yamaha HT-1 that I also received parts from Chaparral and eBay for a........front brake cable. I was suprised how many small little things dealers still had for it. Plus ebay has stuff all day long and not for an arm and a leg either.

Still need some stuff for it but it's almost finished. Fun little machine

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[ironchop]

DAMN.. that YammerHammer is pretty nice!

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[knappyfeet]

DAMN.. that YammerHammer is pretty nice!

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This is how it looked prior to the spruce up. It always ran great. It's been a fun little machine.

I'll be going into the forks tomorrow of the 200X....along with a couple other things. Any areas of specific concern/wear to the forks for this machine? Seems like a standard overhaul but I've found over the years that every model of motorcycle seems to have specific areas in need of additional attention.

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[ironchop]

The slider bushings (or whatever they're called) wear the most from the half dozen sets I've had apart. I haven't found a good source for that part either.

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[knappyfeet]

The slider bushings (or whatever they're called) wear the most from the half dozen sets I've had apart.

Ok...thanks.

I would like some progressive springs but I need to see if my one tube is bent enough for a replacement. If not i might spend the last of my budget on a new set of springs. New tire, springs, oil.......that should make the front end feel like new.

[atc300r]

I had a couple of those years ago. The last one was like yours .Guy said it would never run again.I had it running in an hour. Sold it for 250 dollars to my neighbor. He tore it apart and eventualy sold it to some kids who planned to motocross race it lol.
This is my 1971 Yamaha HT-1 that I also received parts from Chaparral and eBay for a........front brake cable. I was suprised how many small little things dealers still had for it. Plus ebay has stuff all day long and not for an arm and a leg either.

Still need some stuff for it but it's almost finished. Fun little machine

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[knappyfeet]

I had a couple of those years ago. The last one was like yours .Guy said it would never run again.I had it running in an hour. Sold it for 250 dollars to my neighbor. He tore it apart and eventualy sold it to some kids who planned to motocross race it lol.

I bought mine for $300 with the....."ran when parked" disclaimer. Suprisingly it needed just a couple carburetor related items and it ran like a champ. For 90cc it's really peppy. The worst part was the tank. I've never seen one rusted that bad. But with rust remover and a sealer it was good to go. Unbelievably it had no pin holes or anything after evaporust. As far as motocross quick?......maybe in the early 70s.

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[knappyfeet]

I bet my daughter when she was 7 could weld and line up things better than whomever did this headlight guard. I remember when I purchased these Hondas from the original owner they said they purchased all those items from the Hondaline catalog at the dealer. I can't believe this is a Hondaline item. I even marked 3 inches up on each side with a Sharpie.........way off



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[knappyfeet]

Handlebars are bent. When mounted it really didn't look like it that much but you felt it wasn't right. Bent tube, broke plastic, bent bars and clutch lever....all tells me the other tube may be bent as well.

Brakes worked. I will disassemble and anneal the rubber components.

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[knappyfeet]

I don't even have to pull out the dial indicator .........this tells me enough.

My budget may get bumped to $500 as this and the bars need replacing. $50 of budget spent money was a gift card so "technically " it didn't come out of my pocket.....so with that thinking I can stay in budget.

Also painted a couple of things and will reinstall the bent light guard.


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[knappyfeet]

Front caliper needs rebuilding. I know...............boring

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[barnett468]

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There is a chance you could have that tube straightened, however, if you can find a good used one cheap enough that would obviously be a better way to go.


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[Dirtcrasher]

It's hard to not find unbent 33mm forks.

I'm sure it's not the best thing to do yo the metal but if I've fixed one, I've done at least a couple dozen sets...

[knappyfeet]

It's hard to not find unbent 33mm forks.

I'm sure it's not the best thing to do yo the metal but if I've fixed one, I've done at least a couple dozen sets...

Ya.....I kinda figured that out already. Even the one I purchased was just a tini tiny itsy bitsy bent. The best I can do is just inquire to sellers if their item is even a little bent.

I've personally never straightened out a bent fork and wouldn't really know where to start. I've sent out forks for straightening before.......usually for things that were very scarce.

[3 Wheel Drive]

Used the Eastwood Zinc kit to plate the old rusty master pin. I use both the the Eastwood and Caswell kits and the Caswell is superior but for this part........the Eastwood is just fine


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Can you post a link to the zinc kit you used? I have some parts that need this.

[knappyfeet]

Can you post a link to the zinc kit you used? I have some parts that need this.

Here it is. But check out the pic of the side case. The rusty bolts were done with Eastwood and the front 3....Caswell. I understand the price difference between the 2 systems is huge but the Caswell is superior. I would recommend dipping, then steel wooling.....repeating at least 2 times...preferably 3. The Eastwood was my first attempt at plating myself and I learned. Not a bad system for the price but I only plated once for each item except a few I did twice.........those never rusted.

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Just a note. Although the initial cost for the Caswell system is more....the real cost comes with the purchase of heaters and a regulated power supply and chromates, etc. But for a real nice restoration it is my choice.

[knappyfeet]

$425 later and it sits.......awaiting a set of forks from eBay and a new handlebar. This will now sell for $500 when im ready to sell......since thats the new budget.

I need a cheap seat over from ebay, parts to address the stator housing leak and a rebuild kit for the caliper.

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[OZQUAD44]

Surely that would go for more than $500, would it not?

In Australia a 200x in that condition at least 3 times that.


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[knappyfeet]

Surely that would go for more than $500, would it not?

Oh yeah 44..........I'm sure I could get more for it.

But I initially sold it to a neighbor for $400 and in another thread I offered it up here for $400. I just considered giving fellow forum members first dibs on it........just kinda giving folks here a deal. But I'm going to use it for a few planned trips and when or if it needs to find a new home it will for a good price.

[knappyfeet]

Picked these grips up today at Kon-Tiki. This place will make your dick hard if you like classic bikes like bultacos, old tritons, etc. They are an eBay seller and was just working near their location and thought I would just pick them up. Very nice old family biz. I like the squishy foam grips.

Also going to clean up the ball bearings and races as they rotate clunky and need servicing.

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[knappyfeet]

Very careful when I remove triple clamps so I know I didn't drop any......18 top and 18 bottom. My 200X 83 manual says 21 top and 21 bottom. I will assume the 85 specs didn't change concerning this.....maybe I'm wrong.

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[knappyfeet]

Fork springs....... are progressive springs pretty much the only springs available for it?

[knappyfeet]

I cleared the triple clamps. I made the willing "no no" choice to use a high gloss for the clear simply because I had a little left and wanted to use it before it went foul. I know........low gloss clear...... of which I don't have any.

Secondly.....the painter in me applied 2 coats of clear on the crown. As I was applying the second I knew I made the mistake. One light coat is ideal.

I also scuffed the crown to get all those corrosion marks off.

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[knappyfeet]

While waiting for the forks I assembled the triple and bars that came in. The bearings all greased up and everything cleaned. Bars are not as wide as stock but not as bent either. The whole setup is straight and moving freely.......no clunking. Looks much nicer now with the only money spent on the new bars.

Might start "loose" assembling the headlight and such while waiting for the tubes. I can't over emphasize how nice it is to feel straight and things so far.....free moving.

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[knappyfeet]

I can't remember how they go.......I think this is it......the cable/wire guide

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[ironchop]

Man this thing looks nice!

Personally, I think you're​ crazy selling that for so cheap but I get it. I sold mine to a kid I've known a long time for way less than I had in it because I knew how much he loved it and he's willing to spend the money to keep it running right and in good order.

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[knappyfeet]

While waiting for my son to take me to Vegas I'll start the "freshening up" of this master. It worked fine but will take apart to clean and soak the rubber parts in a boiling wintergreen solution.

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[knappyfeet]

Forks came in and seem straight. Pitting on the upper sections but it looks like there isn't near the seals. I will mock install and if everything lines up nicely I will just rebuild these and live with the pitting.

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[knappyfeet]

I traded the black fuzzy grips for blue fuzzy grips because I want to be cool.

Also I mocked installed everything and it lines up perfectly. I will just rebuild these and slowly get over the pitting.

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[knappyfeet]

I forgot I had this. Seems difficult but I'd like to make it work though......for beverages and what not.

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[ironchop]

That pitting will look alot less noticeable with a healthy swipe of extra fine steel wool and some WD40 or an oil. I go gentle pressure and radially instead of longitudinal because it hides better. I never do the part between the seals and bottom tree but the part between tree isnt going inside the seals anyway if you scratch it up by being too agressive . It looks alot better after and well worth the effort.

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[knappyfeet]

From what i remember they usually pivot upside down ......unless you don`t ride it hard ........nice grab bar i wouldn`t feck it up with that !!
Your right....they usually end up upside down. It may be coming to an eBay auction near you. I just got a good deal on a Nissan Titan and now I have to make room for it so many things need to go........I was just going through things.

That pitting will look alot less noticeable with a healthy swipe of extra fine steel wool and some WD40 or an oil. I go gentle pressure and radially instead of longitudinal because it hides better. I never do the part between the seals and bottom tree but the part between tree isnt going inside the seals anyway if you scratch it up by being too agressive . It looks alot better after and well worth the effort.

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Thank you. I got some Marvel's I need to use up

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[knappyfeet]

After the parking brake mechanism was removed and associated items the clutch perch was just a dangly mess so I ordered a clutch perch. I'm up to $454 into my $500 budget. This leaves me barely enough for the caliper rebuild kit and stuff to fix the leaky stator housing. It needs a seat cover though.

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[knappyfeet]

It's about the best I can do. I used "el ironchopo's" method with a quick acid bath prior. Although the pictures don't show it that well..........it is noticeably better.

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[knappyfeet]

New tire mounted. Looks nice and smells like China.

If anyone is local and wants the old one free let me know. It looks nice but it's cracked and would need a tube

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[OZQUAD44]

Looks like you going to have to blow your budget, but I think the fact you'll avoid your 33 year old front tyre peeling off at high speed, it will be money well spent.[emoji3]


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[knappyfeet]

Looks like you going to have to blow your budget, but I think the fact you'll avoid your 33 year old front tyre peeling off at high speed, it will be money well spent.[emoji3]


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This is on ebay for $35.........I'm sure most here have seen it listed. I'm guessing after I get it I'll be at $550. Still fairly thrifty considering everything that's been done on it.

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[knappyfeet]

The internals look like internals. All cleaned up and ready to go. Grips are old stock so they are a little brittle........I never thought about that.

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[knappyfeet]

One down one to go. Murdered out the lowers.....it was an easier job than buffing. Gave the fork boot a bubble bath in wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate) then applied silicone grease. After awhile the now pliable boot will absorb some of the grease and it will leave it more with a natural look with time.


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[ironchop]

Wow! What a difference!

I might just send my build to you. I'm impressed by what you've done with $550. My stuff never looked that nice until I threw $1500 at it. 😑

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[knappyfeet]

Wow! What a difference!

I might just send my build to you. I'm impressed by what you've done with $550. My stuff never looked that nice until I threw $1500 at it. 😑

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I've been blessed with a good platform to start with......that always helps.[emoji3] The rest of the way I'm just trying to be as thrifty as possible......like probably using ATF since I have no fork oil and plenty of ATF just sitting here.

Gonna rebuild the caps.....which means just clean them and new o-rings. I already have blue valve stem caps that have been here for 10 years. O-rings will be around $8.

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[knappyfeet]

Round 2 on the forks.

This one had clumps of stuff in it but overall looks clean and cleaned up nicely. The fork seal seems way to clean to be 30 plus years old...........probably replaced not so long ago.

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[KLT185]

Very common place for them to leak , the large rubber gasket is still available from your Honda dealer , also put a little Honda bond sealant were the stator wires come out of that case .

How hard is to change the shifter seal do you have to pull the shifter shaft out or can u use a pick to pop it out also I don't have a seal driver could I use a socket to push it back in I already put a gasket kit in with gasket seal and I don't want to pull the seal and wreck it to be able to pull the shifter seal?


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[knappyfeet]

How hard is to change the shifter seal do you have to pull the shifter shaft out or can u use a pick to pop it out also I don't have a seal driver could I use a socket to push it back in I already put a gasket kit in with gasket seal and I don't want to pull the seal and wreck it to be able to pull the shifter seal?


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I just got done not to long ago doing 2 seals on my Yamaha HT-1 the same way you described. In that case 2 different sized sockets did the trick driving the new ones in place.........no problems

[KLT185]

So you didn't pull the shifter shaft just used a pick?


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[knappyfeet]

So you didn't pull the shifter shaft just used a pick?


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Yes...........on my Yamaha I just used a slightly curved pick and a small screwdriver. I didn't remove the shaft

Edit.........don't forget a small amount of oil on the seal prior to installing

[wonderboy]

This is on ebay for $35.........I'm sure most here have seen it listed. I'm guessing after I get it I'll be at $550. Still fairly thrifty considering everything that's been done on it.

I bought a 350x seat cover from that seller on e-bay. The material is great, the quality of the printing is great, but the installation is very tricky with pre-printed logos. What happened to me is that the "350x" curved downwards towards the back of the seat due to having to stretch the back enough in order to get rid of wrinkles. It didn't look horrible, but you'll need to spend some time with it (lots of temporary tacks) in order to keep the "200x" logo straight and even.

[knappyfeet]

but the installation is very tricky with pre-printed logos.

Your right and that's been my fear ever since I recovered my "field find 350X". It only had the Honda logo in the back........nothing else and I could barely get that straight.

[wonderboy]

I did my own seat quite some time ago. I had really good luck stenciling the logos myself and using VHT Vinyl Die (in a spray can). I just wasn't crazy about the material I used back then (it was nice, but wasn't OEM).

With the e-bay seat, I like the material and color. I contacted the seller and he said he could sell me the cover without the stenciling. So, I'd get the nice OEM style material, be able to install it without worry about keeping logos straight, THEN apply the Honda and 350X logo. It might be something to think about, depending on the level of effort you want to invest.

[knappyfeet]

I did my own seat quite some time ago. I had really good luck stenciling the logos myself and using VHT Vinyl Die (in a spray can).

Thanks for sharing your experience. When I get to that point I may ask for some assistance with your techniques............... as it sounds like something I can do.

Up until the 350X I never upholstered anything in my life. The video the cover came with made applying it seem easy but I found out otherwise.

I usually leave things like this to the pro's but there's no room in my budget for professional upholstery services.

[1969camaro]

I ordered the same seat cover, had the same problem and it took 3 weeks to get here

[knappyfeet]

I ordered the same seat cover, had the same problem and it took 3 weeks to get here
That's not bad.

I did this one about a year ago for the first time......86 350X. It had no lettering to line up. Sometimes I feel part of the problem is the older foam was not adequate

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The slider came out nice. Ugly fork boot will get the wintergreen bath tomorrow.

I will probably preload the springs up front about an inch. They are old and a little saggy but usable. I understand it will reduce travel by an inch under full compression but this will be fine.

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I will probably preload the springs up front about an inch. They are old and a little saggy but usable. I understand it will reduce travel by an inch under full compression but this will be fine.


No, it will not reduce travel by an inch.

If they are too soft you can also use thicker oil and raise the oil level by 1/2" in addition to increasing the preload.



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[knappyfeet]

No, it will not reduce travel by an inch.

If they are too soft you can also use thicker oil and raise the oil level by 1/2" in addition to increasing the preload.



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Thank you 468.

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The master is yucky. It worked but felt spongy and clumpy. In an effort to maintain my budget I'm going to reuse most of the items with the exception of the large o ring to the reservoir.............and a quick paint.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/abe1e9c329fdfd5df560baed22e89022.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/83e5499d539f67c6f7d48e0b976c322e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/e9efa3da4e94e43ae416430a369ef74d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/95a4d0bcd34636cd47703af221182543.jpg

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[knappyfeet]

Cleaned up the headlight and polished it the best I could. I had a good light to start with.

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Achtung !.......trade me for my 200S !.....Achtung .......i see nothing ......i hear nothing.....
Souvenez-vous!!........what will Mrs. Glamy ride then?.........Souvenez-vous!!!........preservez la marriage!!........or she gets half ...........of..........da money............. da money is hers!!

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[knappyfeet]

Although the throttle looked clean inside it was slow to swing and was clumped up with old hardened dirty grease. Cleaned all the internals and applied some new grease and........ bada boom bada bing........good as new.

One problem I forsee is with the new.......more narrow bars......the front master looks as if it may not have enough space. May have to cut off that little lip to slide it over a quarter of an inch or whatever.

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[knappyfeet]

Mounted the unfinished master to see if it will work. It's a little angled but should be fine even with the protector mounted. It's hard cleaning but a lot of the corrosion and what not comes off after an acid bath.

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[knappyfeet]

the moneys hers !...........she won`t ride anything......

Everyone's getting side by eaches...........be part of the cool click. Neighbor got a used side by each solo........Polaris ace 570. My wife thought it may be fun. I think she was just saying that.

[knappyfeet]

I'm shipping the left side off to a member here who needs it and it got me thinking..........if anyone needs or wants this fork tube for free just let me know.........and just pay for shipping. The otherside is already spoken for. It holds air and the moving action is fine. There is an ever so slight bend to it but it's usable and maybe someone needs one. If you just want the outer tube (slider) or what not just let me know.

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Edit............for a first Gen 200X

[knappyfeet]

After cleaning the master of all the corrosion where the reservoir and o-ring mate up............I'm concerned with the pitting it has in said area. The corrosion acted as a dam but now that it's gone I'm wondering if fluid won't find its way out slowly and start to seep.

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[ironchop]

Perhaps you could fill those pores with an epoxy or similar product and light sand flat?


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[knappyfeet]

Perhaps you could fill those pores with an epoxy or similar product and light sand flat?

I've been doing a little research online about JB Weld and most say it's impervious to the effects of brake fluids........but then there's others that say brake fluid will have its way.

For the miniscule amount I would need to just fill the holes it sure couldn't hurt. I'm going to do what you recommend tomorrow.

[knappyfeet]

Just gonna post these 4 pages of the manual concerning the procedure for front fork disassembly for a member here.

I thought there was someone here with a link to service manuals on-line.........but I didn't remember.

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[knappyfeet]

I bleached the master reservoir with hydrogen peroxide and sunlight. It got a little brighter. New o-ring and some work for the pitting but it should be fine.

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[ironchop]

Wow! Another reason to buy more peroxide. We use that stuff for all kinds of crap

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[knappyfeet]

Wow! Another reason to buy more peroxide. We use that stuff for all kinds of crap

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It sure does seem it has a lot of uses.

Parts came in along with a shift lever. It's not IMS or stock but I like it. The other was bent. I could straighten it out "better" but for $16 it's worth it.

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[knappyfeet]

With the pvc and the chopsaw out you'd think I was doing plumbing.........but just setting up some pre-load. I cut a couple inch spacers and using more buffering washers. Got it all done with new ATF. Since the wheel is still off I do not know if I hit the mark concerning the pre-load but it should good enough.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/800e27f827140279b9b270493d6687c0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/697cb0ee3321b659ca5c5d56c71d951c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/fae44e328f92a0729f3d8a4960d85d3e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/e5bf3f0cf7ee2928ea012e9b173a36dd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/8a0820268c4f8c064e2a98cc54986b20.jpg

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[knappyfeet]

When I more closely inspected the hub I could see where new bearings would be nice..........and at $10 for both the bearings and seals it wasn't a budget breaker.

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[knappyfeet]

For as clean as the caliper and the fluid looked this was one of the hardest pistons to get out. There wasn't a lot of free movement with this assembly. After soaking overnight I had to use massive air pressure to pop it out.......sounded like a mini canon.

I've always had good luck cleaning old rusty discs but this one may be a challenge

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[knappyfeet]

This is about the best I can do with the disc. I don't like blemishes. I will just consider it character.

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[knappyfeet]

Everything back on 3 wheels now. The preload was perfect. The brakes have free moving action. My only gripe would be the bars are more narrow than I would like but it will do.

Next will be the fender.

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[knappyfeet]

The fender has a nice crack along the top. I'm not going to attempt to make it perfect. I do not like zip tie repairs as I would rather weld it. The only problem I've found is that the amount of heat one needs for a proper "weld/repair" usually distorts and discolors tpo, pp, pe, etc type of colored plastics.

It appears a repair was attempted before and failed. Probably because a soldering iron or lower heat tool was used. So I decided to tack on a mesh for now as what I would really like is a piece of like plastic so I do not have to heat up the fender plastic as much. If I can't find any I will just proceed with mesh......with caution.........not to distort the fender that much.

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[knappyfeet]

I'm done with the fender....I'm satisfied with it.

It looks in good shape aside from the crack. It has heat marks as can be seen from the picture and I used some abs stuff that may not be the best rod but it's what I had

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[El Camexican]

I don't know how you can leave that disk like that, it would tear me up. You might consider spraying the whole thing silver and just letting the pads remove what doesn't;t need paint. I've done that a couple times on some really nasty disks.

The rest looks great! :beer

[knappyfeet]

I don't know how you can leave that disk like that, it would tear me up. You might consider spraying the whole thing silver and just letting the pads remove what doesn't;t need paint. I've done that a couple times on some really nasty disks.

The rest looks great! :beer
From a person who believes God is in the details I agree with you. Some things came out really nice and some things I had to leave all rusty and alone. One reason for this is that I only have enough Eastwood Argent paint to do the skid plate and I don't have any low gloss cear........which you would need for this not to heat and chip it off.

Although not a true...true match........ it is the closest match to classic Japanese machines that is aerosol ready and clear coatable. There are others but this is the closest..........if not identical in many cases.

Plus the rear seat is such a challenge to clean and shine up that I'm sure I will completely forget the blemishes on the disc and blemishes throught out the bike when I attack it[emoji16]

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[knappyfeet]

Are all the popular kids still using Kenda for the rear?......290 I think?

Came back from Vegas and this rear went flat again in a day.

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[Shawn Powell]

Are all the popular kids still using Kenda for the rear?......290 I think?

Came back from Vegas and this rear went flat again in a day.

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Yup https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170508/927889647a3bdc29ccb820be61ef5eec.jpg I think there just called scorpions
The front is the 290 ( front max)
Keep in mind the 20" ers run a bit small. True to width but a tad short. On a 8" wide wheel they measure about 19" with 4 psi.


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[knappyfeet]

I think there just called scorpions
The front is the 290 ( front max)

Thank you sir.

I've seen your 350 and your defiantly part of the "cool kids click"

You guys have such big nice pictures..........I use Tapatalk for the upload but they look like crap

[Shawn Powell]

Thank you sir.

I've seen your 350 and your defiantly part of the "cool kids click"

You guys have such big nice pictures..........I use Tapatalk for the upload but they look like crap

Haha yeah I am definitely not one of the cool kids. In my build I have just plagerized all the other 350s from the cool kids on this website.
I also use tap a talk for my uploads. Maybe your phone? Not that I have anything special just an I phone 6


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[knappyfeet]

It's been neglected for a few days as I'm trying to get my little 90 up to speed.

Got these items in so I can start addressing the stator area leak.

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[knappyfeet]

Well....back to this X.

I haven't done anything to it as honestly I was bored with it. Going through the parts I noticed this cooler setup. It doesn't fit the DG bar and I don't think it would fit a stock bar without some modification (grinding) but the color matches the red frame and it may be worth it to someone soo....... after I toy with it and what not if anyone wants it just pay the shipping and it's yours.....gratis!

I have a picture in this thread somewhere with it sitting on the back. Even the blue cooler matches the theme.


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[Shawn Powell]

That's a nice piece of hondaline your gifting. Hopefully to a good home.


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[barnett468]

Well....back to this X. I haven't done anything to it as honestly I was bored with it.

I will gladly relieve you of your boredom anytime. I can be there in an hour! https://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/thumbsup.gif



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[x-rider]

I would love to have it. Let me know how to pay you for shipping.

[knappyfeet]

That's a nice piece of hondaline your gifting. Hopefully to a good home.

I didn't know it was hondaline......thanks for the info

X-rider.....it's yours.

[x-rider]

Sent you a pm. Thanks dude.

[Shawn Powell]

I didn't know it was hondaline......thanks for the info

X-rider.....it's yours.

I could be wrong. Looks like it to me. I had a similar style one that came with my 350x , same color as frame , mounted similar. My stock grab bar was tweaked badly so I bought a DG at first, rack didn't fit. So I'm assuming. Bought a PRM solved problem. Good luck


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[knappyfeet]

I could be wrong. Looks like it to me. I had a similar style one that came with my 350x , same color as frame , mounted similar. My stock grab bar was tweaked badly so I bought a DG at first, rack didn't fit. So I'm assuming. Bought a PRM solved problem. Good luck


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Well........if I remember right......I don't think it would even fit the stock grab bar on my 85 350X......but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm pretty sure it didn't fit the 1st gen 200X but it may have fit my 2nd gen.....I can't remember.

It's about 3/4 inch from what I can tell so minimal grinding could make it fit on anything.......but the mounting holes are close.

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[Shawn Powell]

Didn`t you get the memo .........your cell phone is an extension of you`re penis or ver-jay jay !

lol yeah I missed that memo.


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[Shawn Powell]

Well........if I remember right......I don't think it would even fit the stock grab bar on my 85 350X......but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm pretty sure it didn't fit the 1st gen 200X but it may have fit my 2nd gen.....I can't remember.

It's about 3/4 inch from what I can tell so minimal grinding could make it fit on anything.......but the mounting holes are close.

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My DG is thicker than my stock (I'm assuming it was stock) not by much but it is. Also the stock was a bit longer and had a bend to it. Could be very early aftermarket. What do I know. Lol. Either way it's a nice rack for someone who wants it.


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[knappyfeet]

.your cell phone is an extension of you`re penis

Achtung!...........no cool iphone.....no vajayjay!

[x-rider]

Got the grab bar. Looks great. Thanks.

[knappyfeet]

Today I pulled the old 200x out and filled up both back tires as they both do not hold air now and decided to get going on this. It has sat for a little while just collecting dust.

I'm going to clean it up since I filled the front master only to find I forgot to install the lower brake line and it leaked everywhere.

I'm going to go with Shawns tire recommendation.

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[knappyfeet]

Back to this......

I had this kick starter rubber from my old Yamaha that I decided to put it on the 200X........so it would be a tick softer to kick for my wife. I had to boil it in wintergreen oil for 20 minutes and apply dish soap so it would slide on........and even with that it barely went on

Then decided to fix the o-ring around the stator. It doesn't appear different in size but up close there is a nice difference. I'm hoping it stops the leaks. If not I will just live with it.

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[knappyfeet]

I went with a cheapo duplicolor spray for the engine guard......no prm here

Haven't purchased any tires yet but I need to. After I cleaned the dust off the bike this little slit was bubbling with air.

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[Shawn Powell]

I know I had recommended the scorpion tires for you knappy , I just swapped mine out. They ran really small. I went to a maxxis m9209 all track. A bit more aggressive but still 2 ply. But true to size.
If you want I have some 20" scorpions on rims I'll make you a hella deal on. Pm if you want. I'll snap some pics. There 20" but are really about 19"


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[Shawn Powell]

Only problem with the Klaw is there 6 ply. Maybe on something that has a pro link and upgraded suspension but there just to stiff especially for a light bike like a 200x. Also heavy and you don't have a lot of power to spare.


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[Shawn Powell]

Oh, everything I looked at on the old inter webs said 6. Even 4 would be stiff on that bike imo. Just a preference I guess. I didn't even like 4 on my 350. Too stiff. Guess next time we'll just ask you what we should do.


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[knappyfeet]

I know I had recommended the scorpion tires for you knappy , I just swapped mine out. They ran really small. I went to a maxxis m9209 all track. A bit more aggressive but still 2 ply. But true to size.
If you want I have some 20" scorpions on rims I'll make you a hella deal on. Pm if you want. I'll snap some pics. There 20" but are really about 19"

I think they would work for me. I kinda wanted to keep 22 size but some nice wheels would be sweet

Your in the I.E. right? Me and my wife are always going to Vegas. This weekend we are riding up there on the goldwing but in 2 or 3 weeks after that I could take the truck?

[barnett468]

4 ply tires that size would not be "stiff" on that bike.

2 ply tires are beyond lame.



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[Shawn Powell]

I think they would work for me. I kinda wanted to keep 22 size but some nice wheels would be sweet

Your in the I.E. right? Me and my wife are always going to Vegas. This weekend we are riding up there on the goldwing but in 2 or 3 weeks after that I could take the truck?

Yeah I'm in corona right off the 15 so right on your way. Let me know. There 9x8 ITP red label .190 thick. I can get the tires off them for you.


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[Shawn Powell]

Yeah except there 6 ply. Thanks troll.


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[barnett468]

.

FACT - Kenda Klaw XC's are 6 ply.

FACT - Kenda Klaw MX's are 4 ply.

FACT - The TECATE is the fastest 250 cc 3 wheeler in the universe!

Carry on...


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[barnett468]

It`s not funny Barn .......it`s not fun.......

Yes....it....IS!


OMG...it's my appendix now!

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[Shawn Powell]

Truth is , according to google, Kendas website , and every site I visited today, there 6 ply. All of em. Every size. Please do not feed the trolls. I'm with Barnett. It's funny.


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[Shawn Powell]

Cool story bro.


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