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atc300r
09-30-2016, 01:32 PM
Iv had this trike since early 90s. Switched motors a few times. up until few weeks ago it was a 300r. Awhile back my Uncle told me about a friend of a friend of his that was getting rid of some 200r parts. I told him I was interested a week or so later I went and picked up the parts. I was mostly interested in the motor. From what my Uncle told me the builder was a wiz machinist back in the day and built this 200r motor . Its destroked long rod. It was designed to use stock pistons and topends. I put the motor in my 83 250r and raced it in the 200 class at Geneva. Im still getting used to the powerband its more like a 125 high strung. Im kinda commited to secrecy on any other details of the motor. 235281 235282

sledcrazyinCT
02-14-2017, 11:43 PM
Got any more pics or video of this machine running?

atc300r
02-15-2017, 09:34 AM
Here are some pics from the races at Paradise Speedway Geneva NY. 239829 239830 239833

atc300r
04-04-2017, 11:36 AM
I had a spare 40 over cylinder collecting dust and a 60 over Wiseco piston for and 84 250r. Dropped it off at the Machine shop last week . Got it back today. Its going on my 200r.Also adding a DG head pipe ,intake and Radial head and possibly a Mossbarger 8 pedal reed cage. I also removed a broken exhaust stud on this cylinder. 241643 241655 241656 241658

86T3
04-04-2017, 02:17 PM
That's a really neat machine. Are you going to race it in the 200 class this year at paradise?

atc300r
04-04-2017, 05:02 PM
Yes Im planning to.
That's a really neat machine. Are you going to race it in the 200 class this year at paradise?

atc300r
05-01-2017, 10:36 AM
I had my 1st race of the 2017 season Saturday 4/29. Took the 200r and my 200x. Raced the 200r in the 200 class. Didn't do real well they changed the track layout and my 3rd gear was gone had to shift from 2nd to 4th . On the open part of the track that wasn't to bad the corners is were I needed 3rd.Still had fun. Raced the 200x in the open class for points didn't want to put to much on the 200r.Its getting new tranny and shift forks tonite next race Sat. 5/6.Hoping to get 85 250r done this week for the open class. New look for 200r DG headpipe and Coffman aluminum silencer. 21x7x10 Fast Treker front tire and 85 250r front hub.and new riding gear.242622242623

yaegerb
05-01-2017, 02:15 PM
I had my 1st race of the 2017 season Saturday 4/29. Took the 200r and my 200x. Raced the 200r in the 200 class. Didn't do real well they changed the track layout and my 3rd gear was gone had to shift from 2nd to 4th . On the open part of the track that wasn't to bad the corners is were I needed 3rd.Still had fun. Raced the 200x in the open class for points didn't want to put to much on the 200r.Its getting new tranny and shift forks tonite next race Sat. 5/6.Hoping to get 85 250r done this week for the open class. New look for 200r DG headpipe and Coffman aluminum silencer. 21x7x10 Fast Treker front tire and 85 250r front hub.and new riding gear.242622242623


Very cool! Did 3rd go out at the track or did you know about it going into the race?

atc300r
05-01-2017, 02:43 PM
I knew before hand. Last September I locked the trans up at an MX practice. I removed the chain and got it back in neutral. I took it for a quick ride at the pits at MX track seemed to shift well.Saturday morning I finished up some other things like fork seals smaller front tire and little things.I did a carb adjustment and wanted to test it .So I took it out on the trails and when I shifted to 3rd it locked the rear tires. I took it again to see if I had anything past 3rd and I still had 4th and 5th. So I decided to take the 200r for 200 class and the 200x as backup and decided to run it in open class to get points.I got 7th in 200 class and 10th in open. Fred Morrell won open class on his TC 86 200x.And someone says 200xs aren't competitive agains 250rs .Fred also beat out a big bore z and r.
Very cool! Did 3rd go out at the track or did you know about it going into the race?

yaegerb
05-01-2017, 02:59 PM
I knew before hand. Last September I locked the trans up at an MX practice. I removed the chain and got it back in neutral. I took it for a quick ride at the pits at MX track seemed to shift well.Saturday morning I finished up some other things like fork seals smaller front tire and little things.I did a carb adjustment and wanted to test it .So I took it out on the trails and when I shifted to 3rd it locked the rear tires. I took it again to see if I had anything past 3rd and I still had 4th and 5th. So I decided to take the 200r for 200 class and the 200x as backup and decided to run it in open class to get points.I got 7th in 200 class and 10th in open. Fred Morrell won open class on his TC 86 200x.And someone says 200xs aren't competitive agains 250rs .Fred also beat out a big bore z and r.

Yes, well built x's can dominate a class. Good luck this weekend!

86T3
05-01-2017, 06:03 PM
As long as work allows it I'll make it out the the needt paradise race in a couple weeks. I like the way the new track looks, what do you think? It looks the the one section of the track is too narrow but other than that it looks good. Are you going to race the circle track series before the needt race?

atc300r
05-02-2017, 08:11 AM
I like the new layout its more challenging . It was pretty rutted up but they just changed it early last week. Im planning on racing the oval Id like to put taller gearing on for that. Im putting in for that day off work. I seen on the Paradise site that the time for the Friday race starting at 10 am.
As long as work allows it I'll make it out the the needt paradise race in a couple weeks. I like the way the new track looks, what do you think? It looks the the one section of the track is too narrow but other than that it looks good. Are you going to race the circle track series before the needt race?

barnett468
05-02-2017, 09:30 AM
And someone says 200xs aren't competitive agains 250rs .

They aren't in general, and it takes more money to make one competitive than it does to make a 250r competitive . That was definitively proven years ago . Rider skill is likely the difference you are currently seeing.


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atc300r
05-02-2017, 10:13 AM
Sorry Barn that statement was ment to be a little sarcastic.lol. The new layout of the track is more 4 stroke friendly than 2 stroke. Plus Fred is an awesome racer hes been racing since the 80s.
They aren't in general, and it takes more money to make one competitive than it does to make a 250r competitive . That was definitively proven years ago . Rider skill is likely the difference you are currently seeing.


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barnett468
05-02-2017, 11:17 AM
Sorry Barn that statement was ment to be a little sarcastic.lol. The new layout of the track is more 4 stroke friendly than 2 stroke. Plus Fred is an awesome racer hes been racing since the 80s.

lol, no prob . All that matters is that you are having fun no matter what you ride or what place you finish in, and that was my philosophy the entire time I raced, even in the Pro class, but I have seen countless racers all pissed off and throwing their helmets and other things after a race for one reason or another and I quietly laughed my a_s off and thought, "Thank God that isn't me.". I even laughed out loud right at Eddie Warren when I was assigned as his tuner for the Loretta Lynn Nationals when he threw his helmet off and started swearing after he came back from one race, and when he saw me laughing at him he started laughing too, it was pretty funny . He won the next race by a mile.

As far as 4 stroke engines go, I have built countless 4 stroke engines, and they can definitely be made to haul a_s and are a blast to ride . As long as something had an engine, I would have fun riding it.



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350for350
05-02-2017, 09:50 PM
Barnett, I like your last statement. That's my feeling too. 2, 3, or 4 wheels doesn't matter either.

atc300r
05-06-2017, 04:22 PM
I killed the 200r today.I had to change a couple things internally and fix the slipping kickstarter.Put it back together I started it to test and pop crunch crunch.Put the rod threw the cases.242806

ironchop
05-06-2017, 04:30 PM
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atc300r
05-01-2018, 11:29 AM
I changed the motor in this trike after grenading the 200.I put my 250r motor back in.This past friday I put my 300r topend back on.First race was supposed to be 4/28/18.Because of rain and possible ice storm got cancelled .This Saturday will be first race.I took the 83 and 85 out and woke them up.252015 252016 252017

atc300r
05-01-2018, 11:38 AM
Power wise they are pretty close.One thing I notice is you do seem to sit in a liquid r and on an air r.The 300r has a DG pipe and intake,10 mill reed spacer,8 peddle Mossbarger reed cage, Mikuni 34 flat slide ,Coffman silencer, stock porting.85 has Bassani head pipe,Cobra silencer, 38 oval slide Keihin,Boyesen rad valve,10 mill reed spacer and 67.50 bore with stock porting.

atc300r
05-06-2018, 08:04 PM
Raced my 300r this Saturday. Got 5th overall beat out 3 liquid Rs and a Tri z.Need to do some more mods .One thing is cutting back the steering stops.I want to lower it back down.252099

atc300r
05-15-2018, 07:56 AM
Raced the 300r. Got second place.Dont know why it posted the pic sideways.252245

Aulbaugh
05-15-2018, 10:18 AM
Very Nice! Did you do any of the modifcations you mentioned after your 5th place finish?

atc300r
05-15-2018, 11:06 AM
Yes.I cut the steering stops,Added the 21 inch front tire and lowered the whole trike.Took me a few laps to get used to the tighter steering at first it felt like it was going to loop out.
Very Nice! Did you do any of the modifcations you mentioned after your 5th place finish?

atc300r
05-15-2018, 11:13 AM
Racing was pretty exciting. In the main Raffa got the hole shot and crashed in one of the turns.We restarted I got the hole shot lead about lap and a half Tom Briggs and Raffa got by me.About a lap or so latter Tom took a nasty spill got the wind knocked out of him.We restarted again Raffa got the hole shot I was right behind him I held on for 3 laps.

atc300r
05-16-2018, 06:49 AM
The 300r in tt form.252254

atc300r
06-14-2018, 08:29 AM
I went to Ne-edt race at Paradise on June 8th and 9th .Raced my 85 250r in Pro open short track finished 12th.I ran out of fuel on last couple laps I should have put it on reserve.I raced the 300r in Exebition 2stroke placed 3rd.I got the hole shot .252953 252954 252955

atc300r
06-14-2018, 08:35 AM
I met and talked to alot of cool people. Matt Roby,Bill Kiester,John T. Mclaughlin and his son,Jacob Hall,Jason Hall,Carl Wickersham,Randy Miller hes 62 and raced. Talked with Ben Meyer ,Joe Swatland,Eric Beadle,Tim Kiester,John McKane,Pete Thompson .

OZQUAD44
06-27-2018, 07:38 PM
Hey atc300r

What are those foot peg extenders from, do you know who sells them?

Nice 300r BTW. I'm appreciating the air cooled R's more than I used to when I was younger.

I wish there was a vintage racing scene for three wheelers here in Australia, it would be pretty cool to go out racing again.


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atc300r
06-27-2018, 08:27 PM
Rob Wicks sells them.They are made for the 200s.I drilled my 300r pegs and bolted them on.His price is $55.

atc300r
05-02-2019, 05:10 PM
At the last race I went to I wounded the 300r. In one of the heats I forgot to turn on my gas.258375258376

atc300r
05-02-2019, 05:15 PM
I got it back together with some upgrades. Fresh topend 38 mill carb ESR reeds American Racer tires .16x8.5x8.Runs well .First race this Saturday 5/4.I have 15/38 gearing may switch to 14/35.258377 258378258379

yaegerb
05-02-2019, 10:52 PM
At the last race I went to I wounded the 300r. In one of the heats I forgot to turn on my gas.258375258376

Is that the piston you got from me?

atc300r
05-03-2019, 07:16 AM
Is that the piston you got from me?

No. This is my oem piston.