We the sheeple...

[fabiodriven]

People discussing the presidential race, how cute, haha.

The presidency, the news, the medical establishment, every big corporation, and your lives all have something in common; they are all a sham.

A host of decisions to do "what felt right" as opposed to going with the flow and doing what everyone else does makes me an "odd" person, which is intentional. Not subjecting myself to the programming we're all supposed to get has given me the vision to see a lot more clearly exactly what our existence is. It has become increasingly clear to me over the last couple years that I can see things other people cannot, or at least most cannot. People could see if that were their choice, however the blindfold applied upon our birth is as much a part of us as anything we've known our entire lives and it's uncomfortable to get used to not wearing it. Feels great to me at this point.

If you don't have two hours to watch the following then you are exactly what you're supposed to be. If you haven't spent the two hours to watch it please don't reply.

The video is slightly hokey, however the point is critical.

https://youtu.be/lEV5AFFcZ-s

[DohcBikes]

Off to work, but luckily I've seen the video, more than once!! I'll share a couple links when I get home this evening.

[Jd110]

Yep. Good stuff there...thanks for sharing that. Makes me wonder what will become of this technology:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwjUkqTLwNXOAhUGOiYKHdHpD4EQFggaMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techrepublic.com%2Farticle%2F how-solar-roadways-plans-to-create-smart-roads-to-produce-clean-energy-and-save-lives-and-money%2F&usg=AFQjCNHXnMRXt14Q88TUPaxBTxO02P2jRg

[knappyfeet]

Trump.

I'm going to a line dancing class tonight because my wife wants to learn. She likes trump and she's all American now.

Howdy

[fabiodriven]

There's another thread for discussing the presidential candidacy.

[fabiodriven]

Yep. Good stuff there...thanks for sharing that. Makes me wonder what will become of this technology:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwjUkqTLwNXOAhUGOiYKHdHpD4EQFggaMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techrepublic.com%2Farticle%2F how-solar-roadways-plans-to-create-smart-roads-to-produce-clean-energy-and-save-lives-and-money%2F&usg=AFQjCNHXnMRXt14Q88TUPaxBTxO02P2jRg

I was a big fan of that as well.

[DohcBikes]

It's a mystery to me
We have a greed with which we have agreed
And you think you have to want more than you need
Until you have it all, you won't be free

Society, you're a crazy breed
I hope you're not lonely without me

When you want more than you have, you think you need
And when you think more than you want, your thoughts begin to bleed
I think I need to find a bigger place
Cause when you have more than you think, you need more space

Society, you're a crazy breed
I hope you're not lonely without me
Society, crazy indeed
Hope you're not lonely without me

There's those thinking more or less, less is more
But if less is more, how you keepin score?
Means for every point you make your level drops
Kinda like you're startin' from the top
And you can't do that

Society, you're a crazy breed
I hope you're not lonely without me
Society, crazy indeed
I hope you're not lonely without me
Society, have mercy on me
I hope you're not angry if I disagree
Society, you're crazy indeed
I hope you're not lonely without me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm8oxC24QZc

[fabiodriven]

People aren't interested in what is actually going on Glamy. Barely anyone has taken this thread into consideration aside from us loonies because that's exactly what they're supposed to do. They're too busy concerning themselves with what actor's head they want to stare at on the instruction box for the next eight years. The propaganda is working so well that even completely unenforced they follow blindly. There is most likely a huge portion of people that STILL wouldn't believe these things even with proof right in front of them.
Thank you for a very good post.

[DohcBikes]

"I was born in the American midwest, central Mighigan, the water-winter wonderland. I was raised in the arms of an extended rural famly, mostly farming folk. Solid, hardworking, quiet, giving. I was born into warmth and plenty to eat, a sense of place, and assurity, and security. And I was born into stories. Stories about the value of work, and the right way to live. Stories about god and country, about community, loyalty, steadfastness, resolve. Stories about the role and place of humans on this planet. Stories about our relationship to something we call nature. I was born into stories. Nobody told me these stories, they didn't have to. The stories were the air I breathed, the water in which I swam, the ground upon which I walked. They were all around me. We didn't even know they were stories. We just thought they were the way things are."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2em1x2j9-o

[83ATC185]

I must be a loony then lol

I haven't had time to watch the video so i cant comment on that.

But i will say i believe that corporations don't sell products, they buy the will of the people, and people don't stop and think long enough to realize what all these possessions they say we need are doing to them.

This world tells you that a 3 wheeler isn't good enough, you need a 20k side by side. A tent isn't good enough, you need a 75k RV. That car is 8 years old, it's time for a new one.

This whole world is centered on getting and having, when ultimately, freedom comes from not having anymore than you need.

Will watch the movie as time permits. Crazy i definitely am, sheep i am not

[atc007]

Thanx again Fabs. Wow, does this speak to me,on so many levels I'm not getting into. My clarity is now even more brilliant. I have you and only you to thank for opening my eyes,and the way we live. When you post it, I MAKE time to watch it. Not kidding.Flooky I def am ;) Thank you.

[fabiodriven]

Bill thanks for your opinion. People are going to be figuring this stuff out at some point hopefully, although it may be under duress. If that's what it comes to...

[DohcBikes]

All the while, amongst the misdirected energy, we have these things to contend with. To make us angry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8RtL3azDg

[DohcBikes]

Watch this!!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmlX3fLQrEc

[DohcBikes]

"There are but two powers in the world, the sword and the mind. In the long run, the sword is always beaten by the mind" -Napolean Bonaparte

[fabiodriven]

All the while, amongst the misdirected energy, we have these things to contend with. To make us angry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8RtL3azDg

Now this, this is exactly the type of stuff that goes along with this thread. Thanks so much for linking this.

If anyone has taken the time to view the first video posted, this one is equally as good. I find it absolutely amazing how incredibly farcical our country really is, it really is all a front. We literally are living in the matrix.

I don't aim to force my ideals down anyone's throats, everyone is free to believe what they choose. On the one hand you have at least three threads now going simultaneously that discuss the presidential election and those threads are fairly popular and going strong. The truth of the matter is those threads may as well be about Mr Burns running for office against Mayor Quimby, because the truth is that's about all it amounts to.

You people are following, fans of, and partaking in the biggest lies purported on anyone anytime in the history of mankind. My stance on lying is very clear I'd say and my morals do not allow me to partake in such activities even if I wanted to. You all might as well be commenting on "Days of Our Lives" because that's all the presidential race is. It's a show complete with actors and you are given the illusion of choice and freedom. The truth is we are all slaves, myself currently included, however I've made a decision that I'm out. I can no longer participate in this charade. It will not happen overnight, but this ship is sinking and trouble is on the horizon.

I truly hope at some point the truth prevails and people redirect the vast amounts of time and energy they're wasting on the current government system towards taking back our country. Anyone who partakes in the charade is very simply part of the problem in my eyes. Some very bold words this morning, yes, but these are some pivotal times we live in. I'm not banking on my country waking up so ideally sooner than later I'll be able to say toodle-oo.

[DohcBikes]

Nobody wants to believe that they are living a completely fabricated existence and that their families have all been spending the only hours they have on this earth attempting to obtain a "happiness" that has been outlined by those that benefit from the collective effect that the pursuit of said 'happiness' produces.

My happiness lives in the forest, or on a mountain, or an island somewhere. My happiness does not require me to own more inanimate objects than my brother. It does not require me to be altered or fed by any substance or food that does not occur naturally. It does not grow from feedback, facebook likes, or acceptance from society. It is not bolstered by a stack of paper.

[DohcBikes]

Sign on, tune in. This one is gonna be too much for some to handle.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmf8H98hdog

[Jd110]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BERbQwrtit4&sns=em
My apologies, Fabio, if there's no relevancy. It's just a thought, of my old hero, after watching the above.

[DohcBikes]

Got to be too annoying english over jap .......and the idea that you are superior to everyone else .......learn to sh!t !I agree but the fact remains that 90% of what they are saying is pure truth. It's impossible to find a video in english that puts it down that way, and that's not a coincidence. People here are afraid to broadcast their opinions when they don't coincide with the status quo. We are taught to fear independant thought.

Life is not about pills and fast food, not about Nikes and Walter Payton. This trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro is all a big conspiracy to force consumption and reliance. To create the illusion that the hand of the government is the one that feeds you, and that you should never bite it. They've damn near got everyone believing that we don't have the skills and tools to survive without them. Stand in front of the door at starbucks tomorrow morning, watch people pay $7 for coffee that they honestly think they need to make it through the day.

[DohcBikes]

Lucky 777 views while posting.

This one is not translated. WATCH IT!! Learn to swim!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzrYMEvAEyw


What can we do about it? Probably nothing! There aren't enough that have the will to fight for "less" in order to truly have MORE!!

Taxes are nothing but extortion!!

One day I'll ride off into the sunset.

[DohcBikes]

The video above explains false flags, things we ALL need to be aware of! If we don't wake up soon, the regime will overpower the entire world! Stop being 'Proud to be an American"! I'm ashamed... to have been duped, helping to champion the ideals that allow one human to throw entire meals away when there are humans starving to death! It's all due to the desire for control, greed, manipulation, world domination. Strike fear, terror into the hearts of your citizens, then claim to be the great protecter by launching a massacre! Lead our 18 year old men to kill other humans for nothing more than a statement. What's the message?? Does as we say, or we will murder you. Be afraid, they'll turn on you next!!

Anti American? Hell no I'm not. I'm pro human.

[250Rfanatic85]

Yea this Thrive movement video, pretty sure gave me nightmares last night. Kinda wish I didn't watch it. I just worked almost 2 years for ExxonMobil, on a project to make one of the smallest plastics plant to help make it the one of the largest ones on the planet ��. I will say that I'm kinda torn, cuz it was a real good job, I met and worked with awesome people day in and day out.

[DohcBikes]

Yea this Thrive movement video, pretty sure gave me nightmares last night. Kinda wish I didn't watch it. This is the problem. Nobody wants to face what's really going on, because it's scary as shlt. Much easier to keep eyes ahead and focus on the comfortable path, even if it negatively effects the lives of future generations.

[fabiodriven]

Yea this Thrive movement video, pretty sure gave me nightmares last night. Kinda wish I didn't watch it. I just worked almost 2 years for ExxonMobil, on a project to make one of the smallest plastics plant to help make it the one of the largest ones on the planet ��. I will say that I'm kinda torn, cuz it was a real good job, I met and worked with awesome people day in and day out.

Thank you for taking the time to view it and yes, these things will give you nightmares because the truth of what's happening is more scary than anything made up. If you're scared, that means you're awakening and you can start to see. It's up to you what you do now.

I still have a lot of videos to catch up with in this thread so I'm going to get at that now. Thank you all for such great banter, I can see there are some who care.

[fabiodriven]

Nobody is sick of your posting Glamy, at least not in this particular thread. What I found most alarming is that you've managed to spread your seed.

Personally I think America is FUBAR. I wouldn't waste my time trying to fix this place or help them. I posted the video to highlight the truth of what we live in every day, because people are completely unaware. My solution is not set in stone but it is MY solution, not my solution America's problems. I can not help this place until it wants to help itself.

Thank you for posting.

[atc007]

Are you sick of me yet ? (you will be) ....but you chose my favorite subject so it`s my job to pick it apart ....fair enough ? Go to the end of the video Thrive and his so called solution ! First phase ; restore integrity (to whom?) cut military spending in half ?.......ok i`ll buy that but will Putin and all the other arse-hoe`s put their guns down to ? (i have trust issue`s.....would`nt let the Thrive guy or women near my children it`s that smirk on their face) Abolish the federal reserve (you mean audit like Ron Paul wanted 10 yrs. ago ?) probably won`t happen falls under national security ! Feed the world with money saved from those 2 entities (what use my tax dollars to benefit the third world again ?...sick a dat chit) VAGUE .....vague vague and it gets worse ! Phase 2 ; shrink the government .... been saying that for 20yrs ! cancel all of their flight plans ......DUH.......you friggin morons you should`nt have allowed it to get half this bad !....send them home NO MORE UNSUSTAINABLE PENSIONS ! ...still on phase 2 this is more then the video states ......it`s vague in it`s solutions fabs ......it`s like the fluf girls in porno movies ....bwahahaha ....and it`s creepy ...Phase 3 ; there is no phase 3 (just kidding) no more taxes ....well DUH ...and with all the money saved you`ll have time to figure out all the other problems like healthcare later .......ba ba ba ballsh!t ....and there will be rules (enforced by who with what funding ?) no more taxes ....i love love it......but they won`t give up without a fight ...so it`s monday morning .......go get your shine box out and go to work ....you peasants .....thats all you`ll ever be ! ......take a trip it`ll make you want to be a better person when you reflect on it ....yep i`m an arse-hoe

Couldn't agree MORE. I agreed with every single point of the movie,,,until his happy ending,,,Good for him for trying! A highly trained covert mission by some really cool dudes,one night,at an exact time on some very precise targets is the only answer. I see no happy ending,we're all on the same page. Learn to swim...Shoot,did I say that out loud.

[DohcBikes]

Muse ..... the video Reapers comes to mind ! .....would somebody please embed that video here ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNEC9NaJuE

[Bren_downe]

Facebook fun fact: the federal reserve board of governors now has a Facebook page. The trolling level is 100 percent awesome. #endthefed

I couldn't think of a better place to share this information, seemed like you guys would enjoy it.

Sorry I can't comment on the videos at this point, my internet provider overlords have an imaginary number of data-bits I'm allowed to use. At this point I quickly exceed said data-bits when watching said videos. When this happens I have forfeit extra funds of currency that have no real value, well, except in our heads.

[DohcBikes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbIu8Zeqp0

[DohcBikes]

oops, the audio track isn't timed well on that video, i'll look for another source. Zeitgeist was one of the first alarms and vessels of information for many truthseekers and every man woman and child in america and the rest of the world should see it.

The internet is a double edged sword.

I wonder how bad the illuminati wants the sharing to stop. I wonder if they have the power to shut it down.

If the internet completely crashed today, people would die from it. Maybe lots of people. That's truly how reliant we are on things that don't feed clothe or shelter us.

[DohcBikes]

Think of how much food, fuel, goods, etc. rely on the internet to be arranged. Power, water, all u.s. utilities rely on the internet. Banking, payroll, farming, education, exploration, etc. etc. etc.

How were we EVER making it before? How did we LIVE? Oh wait, we actually LIVED. At 36 I'm lucky enough to be just barely old enough to remember truly living with no cell phones and no internet, although they were well in the works before my birth.

Are your children even aware of the world working without internet? NO. Most, almost all of them are not.

And now, facebook. What a great way to keep an eye on everyone. Ancestry.com. What a great way to know who belongs where.

We are FAR too reliant on the internet. It's gonna bite us, hard.

[fabiodriven]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BERbQwrtit4&sns=em
My apologies, Fabio, if there's no relevancy. It's just a thought, of my old hero, after watching the above.

Jd, I completely missed your post. I just watched that video, so inspiring! Very glad I'm aware of this person now!

[Bren_downe]

In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out

[DohcBikes]

All this conspiracy talk and corruption is exhausting, kinda just makes a guy wanna go for a ride.



http://cdn-5.psndealer.com/e2/dealersite/images/derrycycle/wetbike600.jpg

[fieldy]

I assume the picture was floating around on Quickieleaks. An excellent shot, sandbar none.

[atctim]

So I finally got around to watching the video last night. I find it very interesting, yet to me not really all that alarming. I guess I align very much with Fabio regarding all of this. I got my eyes wide opened a couple years ago now. The Red Pill is hard to swallow, yet once you do clarity is everywhere. I know I have mentioned the Amish in some of my posts before, but those people have it right. I feel I am doing some of the right things, almost as much as the Amish. I bank with a home town bank, I go against the grain on many social aspects of life. I've seen through the medical field for years now. I feel very very safe and secure living in an Amish community. Pretty hard to mess with the food or water supply of these simple people who deal in cash only, and only pay taxes they absolutely have to. Bartering Rules!

One point that got across to me is something that I have always played down. When I hear people talking about "Evil Corporations" I have always defending them by mentioning just how much taxes are payed by Giant Corporations (My point is that they pay way more taxes even prior to paying their workers who will also pay taxes out of already taxed money). POINT: the entire "Occupy Wallstreet" movement was against "Big Corporations". If it wasn't for big corporations paying huge taxes, most of those delirious occupy people wouldn't be eating or have housing. But I see how it all ties in now with the Morgans and the Rothchilds and the Rockafellers. They are above the ruling class government.

Again - with my Red Pill Knowledge none of this came as a surprise at all. The only thing I didn't like about the video was the cheesiness of the graphics. I mean they had some really awesome videography thoroughout the movie, but then would come back to the studio where it looked like Mr Gable and his interviewees are floating in space like something you would see on the Great Space Coaster.

Thanks for sharing Fabio - you are doing your part - and I try my best to do the same.

[fabiodriven]

Tim I'm thrilled you were able to watch this and I agree about the cheesy graphics. All I could figure was that was completely intentional for some reason.

I feel all we can do is just keep doing what we're doing and always improve along the way, never stop learning and evolving. I for one got overwhelmed yet again after viewing this, as well as a multitude of other videos, many of which DOHC linked in this thread. I'd highly recommend all of those as well. I've been worked up about this crap before and I got really worked up again. If there were a button I could have pushed to tie up every loose end here and be free to leave this country post-haste I would have done it. I am extremely concerned about the future of this country and it makes me nervous, however the more you look the more you'll find the entire planet and our species as a whole is in a lot of trouble. I had seriously been concerning myself and began taking the first steps into exploring my exit strategy. It was at that point a good friend said some things to me that I'd not heard previous and I wouldn't pretend to be able to paraphrase it and convey the same message.

This video, the videos Damon posted, and all of these things that people are blind to see are indeed real and indeed a threat to us all and everyone we know, however mankind's past is very checkered as it is. It's not as if we're plunging into darkness from a dove-white virgin past. Some people are greedy, ill willed, power hungry, cruel, disturbed, etc., and unfortunately that does not exclude the mega wealthy that run this planet. We are at the mercy of people so rich it's beyond comprehension, and to them our lives mean absolutely nothing. I fought and put my life on the line for one of their gigantic, fabricated lies in the name of making them even more wealthy and powerful. All people like you and I can do is just keep doing what we're doing and continue to make this place as nice as we can within the parameters we're limited to.

I'm proud to call you my friend and don't take your eyes off the real Slim Shady. The candidacy for the president of the United States of America is nothing more than a WWF wrestling match rant that's accepted by far more people. It's a distraction. It's what everyone is supposed to be filling their minds with right now when it doesn't mean a goddam thing. If you had a problem in school the class president could possibly do something, probably not though. The principal can do whatever they need to though because it's their school.

[DohcBikes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY

[atctim]

The candidacy for the president of the United States of America is nothing more than a WWF wrestling match rant that's accepted by far more people. It's a distraction. It's what everyone is supposed to be filling their minds with right now when it doesn't mean a goddam thing.

I don't really advertise this, BUT I have never voted, registered to vote, nor do I ever plan on voting in my lifetime. By the time I was old enough to vote, I could already see the masquerade for what it was. I already knew my vote meant nothing. I feel voting is a way to make people think their voice will be heard and they can really make a difference through their political viewpoints and voting. Voting makes people feel good and part of something bigger. In reality, voting means NOTHING! Boy, what a crock of crap, and very few people realize it. Case in point. I'm an average middle class white male who has been in the American workforce since 1992. We have had several different presidents from both sides of the fence since then. Literally nothing has changed in my paycheck. Nothing has changed tax wise. I can not even tell you any changed going left to right or right to left worth mentioning. I can say that I am very up to date on politics, as I follow it. But I follow it from a more observational standpoint, rather than an ideological one and what I am seeing is amazing. The American political system in today's world is nothing more than more division and distraction. I guess I follow it for entertainment, as many do with sports. I don't follow sports. And just like sports, everyone has their own team. Listen to people go back and forth about their NFL teams. "Mine's better" - "Nope, mine's better because of XYZ". Same goes with politics, except, generally speaking people are much more aggressive, and mean with their viewpoints.

Fabio, you really have me thinking here regarding all of this. I know a few people that are totally against Facebook, and I am starting to see why. I mean, I use it as a tool to keep in contact and up to date for trike events. Nothing more, nothing less. It's how I keep in touch with everything ATC. That said, I see so much political nonsense, as well as racial nonsense and feminist nonsense. I could go on but you get my point. I have all but stopped watching Fox News, although I would give them slightly more credibility than the other media outlets on the boob tube. I still tune it once in a while, as a sports nut might tune into ESPN. While in the back of my mind I realize it is just another media outlet designed to keep people fighting against each other rather than working together as a collective group of people after the good of civilization. It's all in the grand scheme of things and it is so clear to me now. Unfortunately most people you can not even have a conversation such as this without them thinking you are 100% off your rocker. To them I say - good luck down the road.

I for one will continue with self improvement every day and trying to be as awesome as possible. To me being completely self reliant is what makes some one awesome. Being able to do things for yourself. Think for yourself without the outside influence of others including all the "Vote for me" billboards. Being able to survive on your own without outside help is what people have lost sight of. People who can not do anything for themselves are pretty easily enslaved. Just look around you. You'll see it literally everywhere. Glad to have friends who can see things as they are. Makes me feel less alone!

[atctim]

Holy FORESHADOWING batman. I went on to read this after just posting. Pretty much sums up the conversation around here. We are not alone brothers!

For the price of one US presidential election, you can make the four or five most expensive Hollywood films of all time. Unlike a movie production, we already know how the elections will end: higher prices, more wars and less freedom. Yet, the show must go on.
The 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution prevents the incumbent, President Barack Hussein Obama, from running for a third term. Some – including perhaps Donald Trump (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-history-raising-birther-questions-president-obama/story?id=33861832) – might argue that Article Two of the same Constitution should have prevented him from running for a first term; and that being the case – why should he not now run for a third?
But it seems the baton is set to be passed to someone new, and the question – as pressing as ever for any American – comes down to this: what flavor of sweet, sickly, fizzy poison do you want to spend the next four years drinking: Coke or Pepsi?
Decisions, decisions.



To me, the entire left-right paradigm is a long-winded, blathering version of Punch and Judy where the populous gets to vote on which puppet is going to have a giant corporate hand no-one elected shoved up its rear-end while it reads words on teleprompters written by people who have a far better understanding of what the game-plan is than the politicians themselves.
Meanwhile, the seeming changeover will make no difference; the underlying narrative will not miss a beat: more countries with brown people in them will get blown up, more countries with white people in them will be run into the ground, and a small number of international banks will continue to live off the labor and suffering of both.
I see so-called elections as public festivals, choreographed charades where masquerade combines with burlesque in a meaningless – though well-attended – pageant. They are theater, WWE wrestling with a very short multiple-choice question at the end – one in which there is no real choice.
An election is a public relations stunt to keep people convinced that they have a real say in things, and it serves to train them like Pavlov’s dogs to begin salivating – yet again – at the prospect of things being different this time, when only an idiot doesn’t know that things will be exactly as they have been up to now – only worse.
The other great thing about elections – besides the spectacle and distraction they provide – is that they generate a lot of money.
In the 2012 elections, a total of $1,325.4 billion was received in contributions (http://www.fec.gov/disclosurep/pnational.do), with the Democrats sucking in $722.4 million and the Republicans $598.3 million.
To better understand exactly how much money that is, consider this: You could make the four most expensive Hollywood films of all time (the two costliest Pirates of the Caribbean, plus Avengers: Age of Ultron, and John Carter) and still have enough left over for a good slice of Tangled. All those films – with the exception of John Carter – went on to make a robust profit.

[fabiodriven]

That's absolutely fantastic Tim! I must say, thank you again for posting and lending this thread your credibility. I'm perfectly fine stating how I feel even if I'm standing by myself, and that's a mindset that is a prerequisite if you're going to have this sort of thinking. The truth is the truth, even if nobody believes it. A lie is a lie, even if everyone believes it.

Obviously there are a handful of us who can see here, but I know there are many more who aren't saying anything. When you get a lot of trikers together it doesn't take long to see how similar we all are in so many ways. I definitely don't have a solution to what we have going on and I wouldn't waste my time trying to think of one. There is so much we don't know. It's just troubling to me when I see people lying in any form, and come to find out we're all brought up wrapped in a blanket of lies. I have to be careful not to get angry with people because when I see friends of mine who I truly consider intelligent, which is very few people, that refuse to even look or question anything, just believe what they're told, abide, and obey... it absolutely hurts. It hurts to see how much people invest themselves in something fake. If they had the same enthusiasm for themselves or for helping others we would all be much better off. Instead they direct all of their energy and many give their hard earned money. Can you imagine if you will, a world in which the have nots actually give EVEN MORE than they're already required to in order to support someone who had more than that one person and everyone he saw that day. Can you imagine people directing effort, energy, and vast amounts of money towards something that means absolutely nothing, in order to support something that thrives from our blood, sweat, and tears? You can clearly see how much energy this is and all being focused on one event. People are abuzz, huge amounts of money, time, and energy wasted, but why?

Because if all of that time, money, and energy were focused in other places it would be no less powerful, just not in their control.

[Scootertrash]

Well, I guess that settles it. The rich control this country. There's nothing we can do about, and nobody wants to do anything about it. The black helicopters will come and take you away and disappear you. Can't go anywhere else. The rich control the world. New WORLD Order, remember? Not New USA Order.

Yup, we're fvcked.

So everybody just sit back, do nothing, and watch the bottom feeding FSA (Free Sh!t Army) take more and more from the middle class, watch organizations like BLM continue to stand up for f'n thugs who break the law, and get shot or killed and blame cops until the socialists get their "National Police Force" they were promised 8 years ago. Yeap, sounds like a winning plan. If you think that a New World Order National Police Force will be any different than the Nazi brown shirts, you're a fool.

A critical point from a "hokey" video? Seriously? Yea, it's hokey on purpose. The intellectually enlightened members here should have seen right thru the charade.


Learn how to swim all you want. You'll still be swimming in the rich mans (cess)pool.

[fabiodriven]

I don't feel that way about you or anyone Glamy. Personally I stopped using that word in any context a long time ago. I feel it's done a lot for me.

I have to digest what you wrote Scooter. I've read it multiple times and that's very well written for sure. I know there are parts that went over my head, but I'm also at the end of a very long day.

[DohcBikes]

Well, I guess that settles it. The rich control this country. There's nothing we can do about, and nobody wants to do anything about it. The black helicopters will come and take you away and disappear you. Can't go anywhere else. The rich control the world. New WORLD Order, remember? Not New USA Order.

Yup, we're fvcked.

So everybody just sit back, do nothing, and watch the bottom feeding FSA (Free Sh!t Army) take more and more from the middle class, watch organizations like BLM continue to stand up for f'n thugs who break the law, and get shot or killed and blame cops until the socialists get their "National Police Force" they were promised 8 years ago. Yeap, sounds like a winning plan. If you think that a New World Order National Police Force will be any different than the Nazi brown shirts, you're a fool.

A critical point from a "hokey" video? Seriously? Yea, it's hokey on purpose. The intellectually enlightened members here should have seen right thru the charade.


Learn how to swim all you want. You'll still be swimming in the rich mans (cess)pool.Dat sho iz sum damn good Kool-Aid ya'll got dere massa

[DohcBikes]

It's NOT like this everywhere. Please watch this video and listen closely. Particular attention from 7 minutes on.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ChEI5VslDM

[DohcBikes]

The United States of America is the the only country in the world that condemns children to die in prison.

[Scootertrash]

Oh really? Please go on......

[Scootertrash]

Infinite Energy!!!!

234727

[RamsesRibb]

https://youtu.be/rtiOEpOnqtI

This has been a long time in the making. And it is not the first time. I feel like I'm living in the matrix and the whole world is populated by brain dead puppets.

[atc007]

I haven't watched your vid yet,but yes,, you are indeed living in a matrix populated by puppets/zombies. What can we do about it? I don't see a team voting from the rooftops anytime soon,so make the best of it and plan plan plan if you have a family. If you don't,,piece of freaking cake.

[bkm]

M - I - C -....... K - E - Y ....Why ? ........Because they love you children !..... M - O - U - S - E ! :p:Bounce:p:Bounce:p:Bounce:p:Bounce:p:Bounce:p:Bo unce:p:Bounce:p:Bounce:p Now listen to Black Sabbath Children of the Grave 42 times ! RamsesRibb world .......RamsesRibb world ....... party on ........ excellent ! ....and we`re having such a good time ..... chunk
"Revolution in their minds, the children start to march!"

[RamsesRibb]

You see I don't want revolution. I wish to have devolution. I wish we could go back to the founding principles. I wish we could take away the rights that where given to corporations to be treated equally to humans. I wish we could take money out of the election system especially when the money is confiscated in so few purses. Money that was not acquired by work but by pyramid schemes. I wish politicians who ran for president where honorable. I wish that we could ride on public land with out regulations. I wish we didn't have 5 millions different taxes for everything you should be able to do because you are a citizen of this land. (Fishing license, hunting license, drivers license, work permits, insurance, and so on)

Go Saints!!! [emoji317]

[RamsesRibb]

https://youtu.be/AogiAUrf_I0

[Dirtcrasher]

I watched the video that Fabio listed. I liked it; So much truth in that video!!

Long but well worth your time.

I thought at some point it was going to tie this all into alien life forms and their agenda.

Humans can do enough damage without any outside help. You know damn well that they create these diseases or have cures to them, but not for us.

Tying in the "energy machine" seems to be the message that our planet doesn't want US exposed to - "We the sheeple".

Crazy world we live in and scary stuff!! I'm sure most people brush it off but there is simply to much truth out there.

I have not and will not ever get a "flue shot". As soon as they have their hands on you, they can and will do whatever they want to you....

Now go wash your mouth with antibacterial soap, oh wait, they banned that recently....

[fabiodriven]

Hot off the presses, this is four hours old at the time I'm posting this.

https://youtu.be/z2WO8qG1Ywk


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[atc007]

Yes,but when and how :(.

[DohcBikes]

yes,but when now.




and how :(.stop buying things.


STOP BUYING THINGS. LIVE WITHOUT.

WE

ARE

THE

PROBLEM

[DohcBikes]

stop buying things from corporations. support local markets. deal with humans

[DohcBikes]

"you cant even passively take part!!"

[DohcBikes]

"I'm a Marine but i'm sick of this, you know they are using us and they are sucking us dry"

Fvcking baztards. It's time to start the uprising. There would be blood. It wouldn't be easy.

[Scootertrash]

now.



stop buying things.


STOP BUYING THINGS. LIVE WITHOUT.

WE

ARE

THE

PROBLEM

Says the guy looking for a tent that will last a year.

I'm looking forward to the build thread where you manufacture your own tent that will last a year.

So what's your plan?

You've told us our guns would be peashooters against the modern military weapons.

You've told us that none of us have the balls to start shooting

You've told us that if/when the sh!t hits the fan, we can't just shoot anybody that wanders onto our property that we suspect will do us harm. Or are we all suppose to give up our homes and property for "The Cause"? So everybody can have something instead of some having a lot, some having little, and some in the middle who've worked hard for what they have and actually fvcking deserve what they've got?

Are you manufacturing your own gasoline? Motor oil? Or are you still buying it from BIG OIL? And paying taxes on it to boot?

Quit your job yet?

Where and when are YOU going to make YOUR stand?

What's your plan? Let's hear it. Otherwise you're just as full of sh!t as all of the talking heads and politicians on TV, and the blowhards in all of those videos you guys post. All talk and no action.

I just flipped on the TV and no news about any uprising spurred on by Anon. WTF? They said the time is now. Where is everybody?

Interestingly, this video was posted 19 days ago:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV7pQwtThtI

2 hours left before the day is over and the dollar hasn't collapsed yet. :wondering :rolleyes:

Here's my prediciton: We are all going to wake up tomorrow morning and it's going to be SSDD: Same Sh!t Different Day


Ya know what? You guys like to think that everything is controlled by the Illuminati/Bilderbergs/Elites and Multi-Billion dollar corporations, right?

Did you ever stop to friggin think about the possiblity of THEM producing and distributing these vids to manipulate a certain segment of the population? No? Heh, I know. Major league conspiracy right? How silly of me to actually think that maybe, just maybe, THEY actually do control everything. E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G


But, I digress. I'm sure I'm just being rhetorical, childish and immature. Right D?

[fabiodriven]

Yes Scooter, I have thought about the possibility of the origins of this type of information. I'm way ahead of ya bud so please refrain from the self induced back-pats.

Please don't "you guys" me with Damon. I see things through my eyes from my point of view and will take my own action when and if the time comes.

So what were your thoughts on the "Thrive" video Scooter?

[DohcBikes]

"When the time comes" it'll already be too late.

Scooter, with all due respect, at times you are beyond predictable. You'll be glad to know my tent has been secured. Manufactured in the great country of China.

[Scootertrash]

Not patting myself on the back at all.

I wouldn't group you in with anybody aside from being a trike enthusiast.

I'll try to post my synopsis of the Thrive video in the next day or two. Trying to get ready for a 3 day wheeling trip and as usual Murphy has decided he's going with. Everything that can go wrong is. :( :wondering Rat bastige that Murphy is.

[RamsesRibb]

I'm right here Glamy.
The banks run this country. The banks are owned by a few Jews who control most if not all the worlds money supply. Sorry to say it but the governments been under control of them for a very long time. They throw us some frackers every now and then and we think we have it good. We would need to eliminate the federal reserve system 'and' stay away from the gold standard since the same people own all the gold (and diamond mines). We would pretty much have to do what Castro did in Cuba when they confiscated all of the American owned property. Why else would the US government hate them all these years? I think it is because Castro refused to be controlled by the Jewish Illuminati Banking Clan. Other countries or governments who refused the banking clan control were Sadam Hussein's Iraq, Momar Kadafi's Libya, Afganistan, and Syria.
Coincidence? I think not!!!

[fabiodriven]

https://youtu.be/2LvsyUZpKlE


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[fabiodriven]

Glamy I'm attempting to adhere to my ban but you're obviously goading me in here, haha. You guys try saying no to Glamy!!

Anonymous is not a religion. The name is derived from their origins in 4chan, an early internet forum of some sort. I'm not terribly familiar with 4chan, never been on, but most people who posted on there posted anonymously with their usernames actually reading "anonymous". That's where it began.

The reason for posting anonymously is explained here, and the following are not my words. In discovering these words I have found yet another parallel between myself and this movement which continues to capture my attention. These words are almost the exact thought I was attempting to convey just a couple of days ago in a rant I had.

"A lot of it is a cultural thing. One of the big problems on sites with persistent identities (be they real or assumed) is that people will often look at any contributions in terms of who said them, rather than what has been said: for example, poor quality posts might be unfairly praised with anyone challenging them attacked or downvoted or whatever, simply because the person who posted is is popular. Equally, well-made points might be dismissed because the user is unpopular, or because aspects of the user's identity are known and it biases people against them (racism, sexism, political affiliations etc). When things like persistent karma systems are involved, it also encourages people not to speak their mind, because they're afraid of going against the popular opinions and having their reputation damaged by downvotes."

If there is a gathering place for people like minded to myself it would be these people, however they do not have a home (that I'm aware or privy to) where they gather on the internet as we do here, for obvious reasons I would assume. Their most powerful weapons are the internet and some extremely knowledgeable hackers. The truth is a very, very powerful thing and the deeper you bury it the more it ferments and the stronger it becomes. Once unearthed the consequences can have quite the effect.

I don't know anyone else who follows them and I consider my knowledge of the subject somewhat limited. Let it be known as of this post I have not committed any acts that might be viewed as a threat to the opposing side, just merely attracted to a movement that stands for so many similar thoughts of my own. There may be a point where I don't speak of this subject publicly and almost declined comment here already, however if just one person can see after having viewed these links or reading these words then my point has gotten across.

More government is always a bad thing Glamy. We are already slaves in this country and brainwashed, under the guise that anything we see on the news is real at all. It's all fake, all of it, and almost everyone is brainwashed, including you Glamy. When we were speaking the other day you and I (phone date! Tee-hee!), you expressed concern for "when she" gets elected. What this entire country is failing to realize is that it is completely irrelevant who gets elected. The presidential race is completely fabricated, irrelevant, meaningless, and nothing more than a distraction. This country is full of horse-shite such as that which we all deal with and concern ourselves with on a daily basis. There are still a handful of other countries out there who are not run the way the United States is, and many countries laugh at us and despise us. It's so difficult for people here to see because so many have such an ego and they're so content that they simply do not care what other countries think. We have $2 cheeseburgers at every corner and if Joe Bluecollar can go fill his gullet with beer and bacon-based meals almost every day and watch football on the weekends then who cares what other countries think? Who cares about being fat and stupid and completely unaware of the rest of the planet when you're surrounded by your fellow fat, stupid, and unhealthy citizens? All is well, nothing to see here.

That is unless you happen to be someone from the outside looking in. It's always far easier to see things from the outside that those being observed are completely unaware of because the observer is not used to seeing these things every day.

Now suppose Vladimir Putin spoke out publicly about the United States for the entire rest of the planet to see, and suppose he hit the nail on the head and held back nothing, just said things exactly how they are and used words that should have every American citizen concerned about where we've been, where we are currently, and where our future lies. Words of THE TRUTH, which is not something our news stations broadcast. One would assume that this would be broadcast all over our country and something of great concern. Maybe we could put aside our egos for something far more important than anything else, THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO WE ARE TO THE REST OF THE PLANET. Now I'm assuming, I don't know because I don't follow the news, that this was never broadcast at prime time and I doubt it was shared that much by people outside of my line of thinking. The entire country should be concerned about this and about who we are, what we've become, and how we got to this point.

We are slaves and consumers born and bred to keep the machine going that maintains the ultra wealthy's ability to live in absolutely disgusting excess while the rest of the planet struggles to get by. When I've worked enough in a work week to make almost $2000 and I get under $1000 in my hand there is something desperately wrong, and you're all so used to it because that's the way it's always been so nobody is concerned. Cheeseburgers, beer, bacon, and football. Our federal income tax is a voluntary tax which is not supposed to be enforceable by law. It does not pave my roads and pay my policemen, my local taxes do that. Our federal income tax is our payment to those who already have so much more than the rest of us while we toil day in and day out in a system that is set up to keep us where we are. Oh but cheeseburgers, beer, bacon, and football!

Vladimir Putin did in fact speak not very long ago about what is currently happening and the following is the audio. I will warn those (all I guess) of you whose attention span no longer exists ahead of time. This is about forty minutes long and it is audio only, translated electronically, so there is a slight accent to get used to. If you listen to Mr Putin's words they trump anything I've ever heard from any American politician in recent history, absolutely puts our "leaders" to shame. If we had politicians that spoke like this in this country then politics might catch my attention, but the "politics" you are all enthralled with now is nothing more than a TV show, that's all it is. You're rallying for a system that wants to take what you have for themselves and make your life difficult, that's what they're here to do. Mr Putin can very clearly see this and you don't have to take my word for it if you don't want to listen to me, so instead I've asked my good friend Vladimir Putin to explain himself personally. So without further ado....

https://youtu.be/218yFCjYKsE

[fabiodriven]

I know most people are concerned with elections and things they're supposed to be concerned with right now, but if anyone is still interested I would really like to do my best to reach as many people as I can with the reality of what our world is. What a huge percentage of you are fixated on right now is as fake as a TV show, and it's taking all of your energy and directing it towards something in their control. If that energy were directed somewhere productive to make this a better place for us and for generations to follow, the super powerful would lose control. That's the last thing in the world they want to happen.

If any of you think that anonymous is some internet joke or some punk hackers, or just bored punks that like to cause trouble, please remember that education is more important than anything. If you're curious who these people are for any reason, be it to know your ally or to know your enemy, I implore all to educate themselves. The system you are following, slaves to, and absolutely fixated on is all lies and negativity, all of it. The presidential race is an outright embarrassment to this country and an insult on your intelligence. These people are fake liars, all of them, and they sling shite at each other day in and day out like monkeys. It's absolutely disgusting and the country is glued to it and sucking it up like a hog at feeding time.

Nothing can improve in a system of lies and negativity. The system is backwards and broken and we now answer to them instead of the other way around, the way it was created and supposed to be. I am branded as the site wack job with my far out ideas and crazy thoughts but this is going to catch on sooner or later. Two days from now millions will join and gather in cities around the world, millions who think the same way I do. We do not spread rumors or aim for excess with the least possible effort, we aim to work hard to show the world who we can be as a species and to save what we have before it is too late. We are going to show them that we are aware and the more of us there are the clearer the message.

If you enjoy facts as I do, if you wonder who tells the president what to do, if you'd like to see something much more factual than the television series that is the presidential race, I implore each and all to please watch and see what you've been blinded to. Prepare yourself to be able to see what you're not supposed to and hear words they'd rather weren't spoken, even some from Boston's own John F Kennedy. If you don't take it from me I understand, but maybe you'll listen to JFK. They don't make politicians like that anymore.

The following is quite a few links, yes. Please, if you're even just a little curious, just watch at least one. This is not BS, this is real world stuff. All of the videos are between 8-12 minutes long, with the exception of the last one which is a little longer. If this isn't for you then it's not for you, no big deal. If you find yourself interested then don't be shy to make yourself useful, the planet needs you. I am driven to this, I have nothing to lose. I'm interested because I want to be and as always I have the greater good of all in mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yA24CM8gYg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hDqFJJDHhk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpnZJ9AvWnE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c66cDVmWLao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ChEI5VslDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COl-rPT203w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Hxu5TWWAA

[fabiodriven]

And please, remember remember the fifth of November.

[El Camexican]

Ok well that answered that ...... now what enquiring minds want to know .....was Nico the best lay you EVER had ? .....cause thats what he said about you

Now lets not be starting rumors on here. Next think we know you'll be telling people the tip of my **** tastes salty!:lol:

[fabiodriven]

Christ almighty! The frig has gotten into you two? Hahaha!!

Answer; each other.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Thanks for your links Fabio.

[fabiodriven]

My pleasure my friend. Thank you for taking the time to view the thread.

[Scootertrash]

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/222661-2/Anonymous-mom.gif? (http://forgifs.com)

[Hurley250R]

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/222661-2/Anonymous-mom.gif? (http://forgifs.com)

That's a good one! Too bad they don't have audio, I'm guessing she's saying, "Here's your pizza rolls hunny."

[Scootertrash]

Who's controlling what?:


http://anonhq.com/soros-helped-fund-domestic-protests-worried-part-1/

http://anonhq.com/soros-helped-fund-domestic-protests-worried-part-2/

http://anonhq.com/soros-helped-fund-domestic-protests-worried-part-3/

http://anonhq.com/soros-helped-fund-domestic-protests-worried-part-4/

Organizations funded by Soros and his "Open Society Foundations"

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

[fabiodriven]

That's interesting stuff Scooter. I have to take some time to read up more on Sonos.

I happened upon this short video, it's very interesting I thought. The end caught me by surprise but I understand what he's saying. Once again, science, physics, and math prove to be far more interesting than the tall tales we're all told about where we come from.

https://youtu.be/d6vy2iVAlIk

[Scootertrash]

That's just the tip of the iceberg. You may find it interesting what he did as a youth during WWII.

You could also Google "The Man Who Broke the Bank of England". He's working towards that same goal for the US.

[sledcrazyinCT]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=236870&stc=1

[Scootertrash]

Such as.......

[El Camexican]

Such as.......

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/wikileaks-dnc-bernie-sanders_us_579381fbe4b02d5d5ed1d157

http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/10/some-hacked-e-mails-documents-from-putin-advisor-confirmed-as-genuine/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/panama-papers-full-database-revealed/

http://www.anonews.co/nasa-confesses-air-borne-lithium-other-chemicals/

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowden-documents-confirm/

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5085956152001/?#sp=show-clips

[Scootertrash]

Thanks El, I was being more sarcastic than anything. Even if one doesn't watch the nightly news, it would be very hard to not be subjected to the stories. It's all one big flustercuck.

[El Camexican]

Thanks El, I was being more sarcastic than anything. Even if one doesn't watch the nightly news, it would be very hard to not be subjected to the stories. It's all one big flustercuck.

Hackers really have shed a lot of light on previously unseen things that many have always suspected. I got a real kick out of the Democrats claiming that the WikiLeaks emails were false, but then out of the other side of their mouthes they were claiming that the Russians were supplying the information. They could have just picked one truth. Then Kerrie pulled the Internet connection on the Ecuadorian embassy. Seems like pretty dramatic action to be taken for something that supposedly was false. I hope a lot more comes out and that Trump brings Snowden back to the US and gives Asange a place to call home.

[El Camexican]

Thanks El ......... i`ll chupa your salty dawg later

Kinda hard to turn down an offer like that. Does it cum with a swallow on the side?

[Scootertrash]

I got a real kick out of the Democrats claiming that the WikiLeaks emails were false, but then out of the other side of their mouthes they were claiming that the Russians were supplying the information. They could have just picked one truth.

And then Hillary claiming that Trump and Putin were buddies. Libtards swallowed it all like Tracy Lords.

[Scootertrash]

LOL O El! :lol:

[fabiodriven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM

[fabiodriven]

I had to avert my eyes as well Glamy. I'd be afraid of what I might do to someone if I ever saw that in person.

[fabiodriven]

https://youtu.be/ZwMVMbmQBug

[ironchop]

Human farmers.

And yeah I want to curb stomp that m@#*&:¥¢cker in the elevator

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[Dirtcrasher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM

These links along with a few shown after you view these; Are excellent in dumbing down how it all works and may wake a few people up, and or educate them a bit but it is all worth your time and helps the average guy understand how the banking system works, inflation, what Thomas Jefferson warned citizens about allowing a privatized bank to control all the money and the US :lol: mint that would just print up some more money, yet there was no gold to back it up....

I absolutely think these links are a must view and there is an animation video that is funny, frightening and extremely educational.

Must watch for anyone that views this post; Don't ignore it, be very very aware of it!!

[fabiodriven]

https://youtu.be/6sK46EG3NRU

[tripledog]

Where all da hot reptilian chicks at ? ... is dey pink on da inside ?

Not if they have a reptile dysfunction...

[fabiodriven]

Be my guest at discrediting the amount of brass in this video. Contained within this production are a huge amount of eyewitness accounts of extra terrestrial and/or extra dimensional crafts and beings. Almost every person speaking in this video is at the very least a trained military observer, or a pilot, and even some people with credentials that are far higher than anyone any of us have ever met. There must be fifty different people in this video openly speaking of their factual first hand experiences with what is in my opinion the most important event in the history of mankind, and that would be contact with beings from another world. I've seen things with my own two eyes which is enough for me to know there are strange things in the sky. What these men have seen, many of whose stories completely corroborate one another, is absolutely astonishing and nothing short of amazing.

The worst part about this is the veil of secrecy that these events have been draped in for decades now and worse yet, members of the human race who I find disgusting and disturbing have deemed it necessary to shoot these craft down as well as kill the occupants. Travelers from another world, possibly the dawn of a new age for mankind, and rather than a handshake and a smoke BANG! Let's kill this thing. So perturbing to me that I actually share DNA with people such as these.

Ol Fabio's really off his rocker now! Kid's been getting nuttier and nuttier on here lately! Correct. The crazier I get, the clearer I see. But if you're going to assume I'm crazy, you must also call the vast number of very well trained and well respected individuals held within this film crazy also.

Now it goes without saying that I may be a bit off, but I'll tell you what I find crazy. I find it absolutely insane that the human race can be so unconcerned with a topic such as contact with visitors from another planet. I think it's nuts that people are so consumed with what's so "important" in their lives that they "can't" stop to take the time to consider the vastness of this situation and the future that it brings us. I think it's absolutely hilarious that this can be so easily dismissed until the day it makes the evening news (which lies to you every day). To me, that sums up everything. Visitors from another world, but people are so consumed with Doritos and and their new phone even to see. Or maybe your distraction is more "noble" in nature. You have to work or whatever. But here's the thing; CONTACT FROM ANOTHER WORLD.

Discredit me as you see fit, but do so only after viewing this video. Discrediting me will be your last concern after you see who's seen and worked with a lot more than I have. I've seen UFO's, briefly and not extremely close up, but I know what I saw.

Four hours of viewing, yes, four hours of non stop eye witness and first hand accounts of the biggest deception in the history of mankind. This could unravel the pyramids, all kinds of ancient megaliths, and yes, dare I say this could unravel that biggest farce of all that's trained you to obey unquestionably, religion.

But nobody cares. And I'm crazy. I will gladly stand here in near solitude in crazy land and look at the "normal" people who put their heads down every day and play along with the lie and live the matrix. You do what you're told and believe what you're supposed to, and the godless kook from the trike site has gone off the deep end again. Just remember, I've been crazy long enough that it's become normal to me, so from where I stand I'm not the crazy one.

So for the one or two people who might be able to pull themselves away from the distraction that you think is your life for four hours to hear about the biggest event in the history of mankind, I post the following link. For those who scoff, know this; you are a pawn. If you cannot avert your eyes from the distraction to listen to very well respected men and women tell you their first hand accounts of not only contact with alien life, but how your government TRULY operates, then you don't need to see this anyways. Obey. Consume. Reproduce.

https://youtu.be/5C_-HLD21hA

https://youtu.be/_oDueuZlI2Q

[Scootertrash]

question everything !!

Except theories that might be a little "out there" for some people? Stop believing in what I don't believe?

FWIW, I think there is the possibility of other life forms out there. Why? Because we're here, why not others?

On the other hand, I also believe that videos like these could very well be another government/media fabricated method to control, distract, and manipulate another herd of sheep.

We're not supposed believe anything the government says, but we're supposed to believe (allegedly)ex-government employees and ex-military (government) trained observers? Not to mention the random "Man or Woman on the street" that's heard old reports of UFO's and the descriptions of them?

Now I'm the crazy one, right?


question everything !!

ETA: (Disclaimer:this comment is NOT directed an any one individual, it's a blanket statement of my personal experience, and I am not a religious man)One of the things I find amusing is people who don't believe in a "God" they can't see believe in "aliens" they can't see, which theorists claim where considered "Gods" by ancient civilizations. All based on what I consider the same amount and type of "credible evidence": So called "eyewitness accounts" and "expert testimony".

Now I'm even crazier, eh?


So flame away, try to discredit my opinion cuz it's not the same as others and I don't blindly jump on the bandwagon. I'm going to brush my wool and head out into my pasture, go up in a boom bucket and drop some trees.

[fabiodriven]

Op! Somebody's posting without having watched the video again! Good to hear from you Scooterino.


On the other hand, I also believe that videos like these could very well be another government/media fabricated method to control, distract, and manipulate another herd of sheep.

See as unaware as you may assume I (we) are, this is always your same approach. As Glamy says, "question everything". Included in everything would be everything. Just about every time I or someone else posts about these subjects, your viewpoint is the same regardless of the circumstances and the facts involved, and that is we're following a clandestine path designed to lure people with our viewpoints into believing things that might otherwise be, "outlandish". It's rather predictable and the pattern of picking that standpoint regardless of the subject at hand lends credibility to the fact you may have a predetermined spot in which you view things from, once again, regardless of the subject.

As Glamy says, question everything. As a "self check" I guess you would say, any time I'm getting carried away on the newest subject at hand, I always question EVERYTHING at that point. Who is it I'm listening to, who stands to gain what by this movement, have I been goaded into believing this... etc, etc... In this case the narrator of this video and the brains behind it is Dr Steven Greer, and this is not the only thing of his that I have seen. I have watched hours of him speaking, as well as his sharing of hours and hours of footage of UFO's. Because I have to explain this to you because you are commenting on something you are ignorant of, my post is going to be very long here. Dr Greer along with many, many other people have hours and hours of video and tons and tons of photographic evidence of occurrences that to me are irrefutable. I have seen things in the skies as well, but I have never seen Jesus.


We're not supposed believe anything the government says, but we're supposed to believe (allegedly)ex-government employees and ex-military (government) trained observers? Not to mention the random "Man or Woman on the street" that's heard old reports of UFO's and the descriptions of them?.

There is no "allegedly" about this Scooter. Had you taken the time to view this video, you'd see a huge percentage of the people speaking in it are BRASS, very high up. There is also a United States astronaut who speaks in this video as well. Not that your status makes you any more honest, but there are also "lowly" people interviewed in this video who had been silenced for what they had seen. Radar repair men, an undertaker, people who just happened to walk into a situation they were not aware of and who were reprimanded sternly for their mistakes.

What I see in this video on these people's faces Scooter, is the truth. I see honesty. Every time I mention how I can spot a lie, you scoff. Well it's the truth. It is feasible to tell when people are BS-ing a good amount of the time and I am capable of doing so. What I see in these people is sincerity as well as concern. Many no longer are concerned for themselves, otherwise many of them would not be speaking, but rather they're concerned for us all. These people have been threatened, had their families threatened, and they have been physically beaten. Those who you will not see speaking in this video are those who have been killed for speaking out, and that has absolutely happened. Honestly I'm surprised they've allowed Dr Steven Greer to live this long.

So the difference between a government employee who speaks out as opposed to an ex-government employee... Big difference Scooter. What you will find with all of the people interviewed in this video (which you never watched but have an opinion on anyways), is that all of them were threatened to keep their mouths shut. They were threatened with the loss of their jobs and/or told they'd never excel or move up in rank. They and their families were also threatened with violence and death, as I already said. So let's say old Colonel Bozo is walking along one day and sees a UFO land. He goes to report it and he's met with resistance and advised he may want to keep his mouth shut. He's told if he speaks out, he's going to get demoted, publicly ridiculed with a made up story, and they may even tell him that it would be the best thing for his family if he didn't speak. Now, old Colonel Bozo has been in the military since high school, it's all he knows. He's poured his heart and soul into this position and has spent the last twenty years climbing the ranks. His little daughter Suzy Q counts on Colonel Bozo's position to feed and clothe her, and Colonel Bozo really wants to send her off to Harvard one day... But this one statement could change all of that. They could besmirch his reputation, take his job and see to it that he never makes it to any position of any sort of importance again, or perhaps even kill him. This is what they do.

So when someone is out of their position at the government, first of all they are no longer "a part" of that entity. They can no longer be threatened with their job. Also, had Scooterino taken the time to view this video... he would see that most of the people speaking are a bit long in the tooth. These people are old, many of them elderly, and almost all of them feel the same way. Basically, "they've had a good run". They are untouchable now, because death is not far off for many of them. Others are just like me, they want the truth to be heard! Also Scooter, this is a movement, with the idea being if enough of them speak out at once, they can't all get "rubbed out", and that is a very legit concern. You will see as time will prove this right. It will all come out and everyone will see that we've been taken for granted for over 50 years, that the true available technology has been hidden from us in order to keep us down here and people who think they're better than us "up there". Once free energy is available to all and once the truths start coming out, they will fall like dominoes. All of the lies that we live on a daily basis will be exposed. We are polluting and killing this planet needlessly, free energy is available. Their poor production of a lie about 9/11 will all of a sudden look as fake to you as an 80's B movie, as it does to me currently, the ultra rich will no longer be anything but "just" another human being, and the unbelievers will have no choice, because they cannot deny that which they can see with their own two eyes.


ETA: (Disclaimer:this comment is NOT directed an any one individual, it's a blanket statement of my personal experience, and I am not a religious man)One of the things I find amusing is people who don't believe in a "God" they can't see believe in "aliens" they can't see, which theorists claim where considered "Gods" by ancient civilizations. All based on what I consider the same amount and type of "credible evidence": So called "eyewitness accounts" and "expert testimony".

Very well said. Something that has always piqued my curiosity since I was a child is UFO's, but never religion. As a matter of fact, I dropped out of Sunday school. I've always had a nose for BS, and church just always struck me as such a waste of time. Conversely however, I've always been fascinated with UFO's. As I said, I have seen them. When I was in my teens, myself and a few friends were in one of our hangouts in the woods. We all clearly saw this UFO (it was at night) and we all knew it wasn't any man made aircraft. A friend of mine at the time used to take his video camera everywhere. His intentions were to record all the crazy shite we did, however he was the absolute worst camera man I've ever met. It never failed that he would "inadvertently" turn the camera away at the very worst possible moment, always recording right up until the action, panning away, then right back to the aftermath. He missed everything. In this particular instance, he aimed his camcorder up at the sky and was amazed at what he could see through the viewfinder. He said he couldn't keep it in the frame though, it was moving too much. I asked him what it looked like and he couldn't describe, so he handed the camcorder to me. As I peered in the viewfinder and zoomed in, I could see why he was having difficulties keeping it in the frame with the way the object was moving. What I could see was an object made only of light, I couldn't see any solid metal parts or make out the shape of a craft or anything like that, but it looked like a giant atom in the air. That's the only way I could describe it. No center light, no "nucleus" so to speak, but the other lights were all zooming around and around this thing in every direction the way electrons orbit the nucleus. There is no man made craft that I'm aware can do that. It's either from somewhere else, or it's man made but secret. Come to find out my dill hole friend had never pressed record on the camera, he just wanted to view whatever it was we were seeing closer through the view finder. Nothing to see here...

Other times, (yes times) we would be hanging out in the woods at night (as we often did) and all of the sudden we'd be lit up. Not brilliantly, more of a glow, like a little brighter than a really bright full moon. These lights would come from the sky, but way up. We're talking 20,000 feet or better, and if memory serves me they would originate from man made air craft, from planes. The thing is this; I'm not talking about something that passed over us at 400 mph or whatever that plane is doing, I'm talking about a light that illuminated myself and a small gathering of friends who were in the dark, in the woods, with no sort of beacon or any indication where we were. The light was not moving with the plane, it was steady on the area in which we were standing. So a plane at 20,000+/- feet doing 400 mph can see us in the dark in the woods and illuminate us with a steady light that's not traveling with the speed of the aircraft. In the late 1990's man had this capability, but they can't find one "terrorist" Middle Eastern man hiding in a cave...

I saw something odd very low in the sky over this winter, just hanging in my tree tops. All else was silent. I didn't see enough to elaborate on here, but rather I felt a presence. That "you know something is there" feeling, which is a part of human sensory that should never be ignored. I did see something, but not enough to bother trying to describe here. The feeling was the eerie part, and it was too strong to be ignored. I learned something from this Dr Steven Greer after viewing one of his other videos that taught me what I may have seen and felt that night. Doesn't mean much to others, but to me this experience was odd enough to take note of for me personally.

So you see Scooter, I have seen UFO's, but I have never seen Jesus. I have seen countless pictures and videos of of UFO's and purported aliens, but I have never seen a picture of Jesus. I have seen countless MODERN men and women who have the capacity to understand what it is they're seeing attest truthfully to having seen UFO's and visitors from another world, but I don't take ancient mankind's word on that which it is they're not capable of understanding. I am a very spiritual person, believe it or not, and I know we were put here by someone or something. Science will tell you that we are not a natural occurrence. What's much more feasible for me to believe is something that I have seen with my own two eyes, corroborated by countless other people, backed by science, backed with evidence (photographic, video, physical), and no reasons why it couldn't be feasible. What's a much more likely scenario to me is that the traditional religion that's crammed down our throats on a daily basis is something that was either mankind's misunderstanding of the beings who created us and this place, or a creation of the same beings who created us and this place, in which case, does that make them "gods"? If the creator is deemed god, then maybe these beings are our "gods". In my belief, that word is just a label. To me they are just inhabitants of the same (or possibly a different) universe who have some sort of vested interest in us and this place, so to me the big question is similar to everyone else's, but instead of "why are we here", my version would be more of "why did they put us here".

Thank you for your reply Scooter.

[atc007]

I have yet to watch the 2 latest vids you posted Fabs. But it is no secret my views don't differ from yours very much. 911, Chem trails,debt slavery etc,,,but I always come back to the SAME question.. WHY? How and why would any group of people want to do this to their own people, their own planet? Looks like maybe,just maybe ,you have stumbled onto the answer. I cannot wait to watch these! In the fb feed today? Putin yesterday exploded at a meeting,calling Soros a dragon,a cold blooded alien,and that 90% of those in power controlling the switches today are alien. Makes sense to me. But I am not convinced until I see some evidence. I know personally,call me nuts,go ahead,,,I don't care ;)... My buddies and I would take breaks at night while riding,and literally,, watch UFO's racing around in the sky. Did I ever see a shape? No, these were always lights. But there was absolutely Nothing human about the technology ,speed and direction changes we would see. This was not once or even weeks. It was often.

I now purposely look for them,and I have not seen one in many many years. I tell my kids while we're out at night looking all about what we saw. But never see anything anymore. Thanx again for being you Fabs!

[fabiodriven]

I always come back to the SAME question.. WHY?

There is actually a very simple answer to that Bill. Mankind's greed and thirst for power and control. If we were privy to the information that exists about what is actually available as far as modern technology goes, we would all be equal as a species. If we all had an unlimited source of energy at our disposal, then there would be no more that could be held over our heads. We all NEED gasoline, we NEED diesel, we NEED coal and power plants and electricity plumbed to our dwellings. If you eliminate the demand for energy, all the oil companies, coal companies, as well as every single job from the CEO right down to the janitor at the local office of Mobil will all be eliminated immediately. Entire regions of coal country, out of business. That's just one aspect of business, energy. The domino effect that will have is beyond the scope of comprehension of most people. Scores and scores of people displaced from work, global economy shattered, but to the greater good of all. The house of cards built up by the banks and giant corporate conglomerates, governments, everything will fall. Their monetary system is fake. We are the suckers who scrape by with the sacrifice of our own bodies and minds, all the while shedding our own sweat in order to keep their house of cards, which is to their benefit and our detriment, from crumbling down. It is we the people who keep their empire alive and well enough to keep them on the top and us at the bottom. We beg them to grant us money that doesn't exist, that they don't have. We all hand our money to those who have "lent" it to us in the first place, but they never did. They never had anything to lend us. They are allowed to create cash from thin air, just print it up, then dangle it in front of our faces to make us work on THEIR machine which they have created in order to keep us down. We are the ones doing this to us because we are allowing it to happen. It is mankind's ego (Americans particularly) which greases the wheels on this machine by being too proud to accept that they may have been shammed. Well it is not your fault, you were born into this. You didn't know any better, but now you can, and now you can make a difference.

The house of cards is poised to fall and I thank you for referencing Mr Putin's words Bill. I was unaware that he'd said that. Putin is the man. I referenced him a couple pages back in this thread and he is standing up for what is right I feel. Once this all falls down, once we wield energy on par with the energy which those in power have been hiding from us for decades, then they at the top will be at the same exact level as us. This is what I fight for. They are willing to kill us as human beings and kill our planet in order to keep the power that they have acquired through nothing short of pure evil acts and intentions. For decades we have scorched this earth and showered cancer amongst ourselves as species, clear cut forests and jungles, killed off scores of species of animals, killed each other, all the while burning unimaginable amounts of fossil fuels. If we as a species hit the reset button, if the global monetary systems ceases to exist, if there are no more classes of people other than what friends you choose to keep personally, if business can no longer sell you these things you don't need, then why would you continue to work? If you don't work, their machine falters and fails. They are not capable of having this machine without your participation, it doesn't work that way. As the house of cards falls down, they come down with it. All the while we will be rising, and we'll meet in the middle. Those who have oppressed and enslaved generations of human beings for decade upon decade will now be standing face to face and eye to eye with those whose coat tails they have ridden for so long. Their ultimate loss in this realm is the stripping of their power over the rest of mankind, and that's what free energy will do to them.

Why do they always send the poor? Why is it the have nots who must fight for those who have? More importantly, why can mankind not see the platform on which they prop up their fellow man who in all reality is nothing more than their equal? Is a cop a cop, a doctor a doctor, a pilot a pilot? The answer to that is no, no they are not. They are all men, and anything above that is a mere title given them by a fellow man and in turn, you. It is you who grant anyone else power over you, and the day I realized we're all just rats in a cage was the day it all came to me. We as a people will very soon either evolve, or destroy ourselves. This planet has been raped and is rife with cancer, radioactivity, water that's unsafe, air that's unsafe, to keep us sick, to buy insurance so we can see the doctor after we get sick from working on the machine so hard with no time to rest so we eat as poorly and as quickly as we can without enough love or sex or living to get up to work on the machine to buy the things so we can be better to work harder for the machine so we don't get sick so we have the insurance to have the cancer treated to be provided with the drugs to continue to see the show or watch the game and buy the pizza to enjoy the distraction of the men on the field who pray for those who are fighting to secure democracy to tell them what they're doing wrong and how we do things to put the tires on the car during our time so we can get to work to come home to do the laundry that runs on THEIR electricity, THEIR drugs, THEIR insurance companies, THEIR doctors, THEIR conglomerates, THEIR taxes, THEIR fuel, THEIR monetary system, THEIR government and THEIR FRIGGIN MACHINE. And we keep it going for them.

So you see, if their empire crumbles, everything that is "theirs" suddenly becomes, "ours".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

[ezmoney1979]

"Why do they always send the poor" one of the best lyrics from a band I listened to years ago. I haven't watched the video yet so I would rather not comment on the subject. I am intrigued however. Thanks Fabio.

[fabiodriven]

Here you go Bill! It's amusing to me that I happen to stumble on this short video only after having written my last post.

https://youtu.be/qnO8U2YgF1I

[Dirtcrasher]

I 100% agree we have lifeforms from either Mars other galaxies, that visit us too often.

That's the only part I read; Need top stay in my shop.

NO WAY can 100's of thousands or more have witnessed SOMETHING at some point in their life.

Fabio, John, knows that he resides on a piece of land that is located here in an area which is called referred to as the "Bridgewater Triangle".

There is plenty of evidence of activity, and the recent sightings as well. Tons of history on the place as well.

My favorite one is the one that is overseas and guarded 24 - 7; I forget where, but military guards and officers all saw a UFO in the sky and it landed in the forest. It even shot beams of light down at them after it flew up at an unbelievable speed. There was a coverup as well from the "men in black" after these events took place.

They investigated it and a person there shared everything, right down to the notes he took wayback then. This place housed nuclear goodies; And that seems to be where allot of crafts are seen near, nuclear reactors.

There is NO POSSIBLY WAY that these crafts and other life forms have been seen, photographed, pictures have been taken, eye witnesses accounts are all faked and false.... NO DAM WAY!!

It's of my opinion that the government or military think that if WE knew, we'd all be in a panic.....

Or these top official are trying to dominate the universe. That way we can invade somewhere else than on are planet Earth.

[fabiodriven]

Don't bother watching this, it doesn't matter anyways.

https://youtu.be/5C_-HLD21hA

[fabiodriven]

https://youtu.be/hUr_TF9o7sY

[3 Wheel Drive]

https://youtu.be/V6X2rnPqTkA

[Dirtcrasher]

I am without a doubt 100% positive aliens are non fiction.

I believe they are kicking back and watching us destroy ourselves and see no need for outside intervention....

[fabiodriven]

Free, clean, unlimited energy. Stop and think about that. It's difficult for one to fathom, but if we didn't have to buy fuel and electricity, the entire planet would transform. Empires would crumble, the "have nots" would now have, the "haves" would cease to exist. The global economy would crumble and fail and there would be far less reasons for war. Pollution could feasibly turn into a memory, there wouldn't be a life on this planet that wouldn't be effected. Think about the repercussions of all of those things transforming, and how mankind could rise and evolve. If you're laughing about the idea of free energy, you may want to watch this-

https://youtu.be/iIOZ_aMrKos

[fabiodriven]

I appreciate you bumping the thread Glamy. Most people just aren't interested in looking into these things which is unfortunate. I'm sure I'll continue to keep the thread going from time to time, but it's tricky to care when so few others do. I used to think when things "really started happening" the people would wake up, however every single day I see things that are just flat out wrong, and sometimes I even point them out, but nobody cares. I did some time on the book recently and went off on a tangent sharing and discussing things, and nobody f*ckin cared, or hardly anyone I should say. I know what I can do for me, so I concern myself with me and very few others. I don't think they'd wake up even if something blatant were to happen. If they're not instructed to react a certain way by either the idiot box or their peers and the general public, they won't react. As long as they're constantly distracted and told everything is OK, nothing will change.

[Scootertrash]

Did I miss something? Some (another media manufactured) global humanitarian crisis? Another (yearly) hurricane costing millions I'm supposed to give a rats arse about? So we can rebuild their sh!t for them and have it happen again next year? And the year after that? Another (yearly, or is it Bi-yearly? Tri-yearly? California wildfire? So we can rebuild their sh!t for them and have it happen again next year? And the year after that?

What? What happened? What worldly tragedy has befallen mankind? Should I turn my TV back on?

Don't care. Headin' back to my cave.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgi5xdftOIA


Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery.

[fabiodriven]

Did I miss something? Some (another media manufactured) global humanitarian crisis? Another (yearly) hurricane costing millions I'm supposed to give a rats arse about? So we can rebuild their sh!t for them and have it happen again next year? And the year after that? Another (yearly, or is it Bi-yearly? Tri-yearly? California wildfire? So we can rebuild their sh!t for them and have it happen again next year? And the year after that?

What? What happened? What worldly tragedy has befallen mankind? Should I turn my TV back on?

Don't care. Headin' back to my cave.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgi5xdftOIA

You are truly blind.

[Hurley250R]

I came across this video last night. Its about how the media tries to control the sheeple. Interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gqYcQTpq_c

[83ATC185]

Everything you see around you is meant to sway your thinking for monetary gain.

I was practically called a loser by a tv commercial yesterday while watching cops at a friends house because i don't own a swiffer wetjet. And i wonder why i don't have tv?

Everyone who has found a cure for cancer or free energy has turned up dead in mysterious circumstances.

Then you have the government control of education, and punishment for "wrongdoing", mainly, but in every other aspect of life as well.

Americans live like this every day. First, get a drivers license with a test we create, and pay what we ask to keep it. Then, pay sales tax on your car. Then buy a tag from them at a price they name. Then buy insurance at a price they name or you legally can't drive. Then buy gas for this car and pay 9/10s of a cent on every gallon for tax. And if you want to buy a house, great! get a good job where they can take more taxes! Then when you buy the land, pay taxes on that or lose it to someone willing to pay them.

The question is, "what do we do about it?"

STOP PAYING TAXES.

[Scootertrash]

You are truly blind.

And you're a dick.

Is there a problem?

I asked a simple question, albeit sprinkled with some light sarcasm, and all you have for a reply is an insult?

I haven't turned on a TV in approx 4 months, not that it matters since I never watched much more than a couple of hours of TV (History Channel, Discovery Channel) a month anyway. Even the "educational" shows have turned into leftist/progressive political propaganda driven bullsh!t.

So, is there some NEW tragedy, scandal or conspiracy that I should know about?

[Scootertrash]

Everything you see around you is meant to sway your thinking for monetary gain.

I was practically called a loser by a tv commercial yesterday while watching cops at a friends house because i don't own a swiffer wetjet. And i wonder why i don't have tv?

Are you that emotionally insecure that a 30 second bit on TV makes you feel inadequate? Watching "Cops"? :rolleyes: What, No Jerry Springer or Maury Povich episodes were on?


Everyone who has found a cure for cancer or free energy has turned up dead in mysterious circumstances.

Cite your sources, I'm up for some good laughs.


Then you have the government control of education

Do you have kids? Do they attend publik skool?


and punishment for "wrongdoing", mainly, but in every other aspect of life as well.

WTF does this mean?


Then buy insurance at a price they name or you legally can't drive.
Would youi prefer that some Jackwagon total your car and injure your family members because they were texting, or just plain couldn't drive worth a sh!t, and then you have to pay for a car and/or hospital bills out of your own pocket?


Then buy gas for this car and pay 9/10s of a cent on every gallon for tax.

9/10 of a cent tax per gallon? You obviously don't have a clue what your talking about


And if you want to buy a house, great! get a good job where they can take more taxes! Then when you buy the land, pay taxes on that or lose it to someone willing to pay them.

Do you have a house? Land? Rent? Live in your mom's basement?

Do you think all property should be community property?


The question is, "what do we do about it?"

STOP PAYING TAXES.

Put your money where your mouth is and do it. Seriously. Stop paying your taxes. Start a thread and keep updating it so you can let us know how it goes for you.

Every keyboard commando that posts "stop paying your taxes" all have one thing in common: They don't have the balls to actually do it.

We'll be waiting for your "I've stopped paying my taxes. WINNING!" THREAD.........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI

[fabiodriven]

Name calling Scooter, nice.

If you take offense to such a true, simple statement (You are truly blind), that says a lot, does it not?

I will no longer attempt to teach you because I feel you are near unteachable. Always the same uninformed, ignorant (in respect to the subject at hand), replies. The entire point of this thread as well as many other posts on this topic is to present the information for you to digest and then form your own thoughts. Try as I might, I cannot do this for you. All your questions in your last post can all be answered but I'm not bothering anymore. Most people cannot see or understand these topics. I was just having a debate last night with some good, close personal friends, but there is no debating this subject with you because you are truly blind. If you want to see and understand the world that is going on around you, it is up to you to educate yourself on the subjects at hand. I can assure you that you look silly in your replies, although I feel you're figuring that out by the amount of offense taken by you from hearing the truth. I love the truth, it works in any and all situations.

Also, learn to swim.

[Scootertrash]

Wow ........ Trashnado has gone all rouge nato up in diss muvfocker ! :lol::lol::lol::p;):cool:

lofnl glamster :lol:

no rogue-nado

If 83ATC185 is really that dissatisfied with what he mentions in his post, the solution is simple as these 3 easy tricks:

1. Quit your job. No more paying taxes or Social Security. Unless you're going to leech off society and collect welfare, you'll have to live in a tent and live off the land (that is after you find land some place where the .gov or land owner will let you freeload off of them. Good luck), walk everywhere, make your own clothes and shoes, and have someone push you around on your 3 wheeler, but hey, it's a small price to pay for "freedom", no?

2. With all of that extra free time after you're done being a hunter/gatherer like our cave man ancestors, you can home skool your crotch fruit.

3. In your spare time you can work on developing a source of "free energy". If/when you actually develop a source that can supply the world with free energy, you'll share that secret for free. Right?

[Scootertrash]

Name calling Scooter, nice.

Oh please, spare me.:rolleyes:


If you take offense to such a true, simple statement (You are truly blind), that says a lot, does it not?

It does say a lot. About you. That's all you've got? You want me to form my own opinion, but feebly attempt to discredit it by calling me stupid?

This:


The entire point of this thread as well as many other posts on this topic is to present the information for you to digest and then form your own thoughts.

And this:


I will no longer attempt to teach you because I feel you are near unteachable.

Are the complete opposite of each other

And when you take this statement in it's entirety, you reveal your true agenda:


The entire point of this thread as well as many other posts on this topic is to present the information for you to digest and then form your own thoughts. Try as I might, I cannot do this for you.

You don't want people to form their own opinions, YOU WANT TO FORM THEIR OPINIONS FOR THEM.

You despise the Government controlled educational system, but use the same tactics: Don't teach them HOW TO THINK, teach them WHAT TO THINK. All rooted in what the Communists called "Re-education". Only difference is when you start "educating" them young enough it's easy to get them to absorb the propaganda.

You're the one who is truly blind. You've blinded yourself with your arrogantly self-appointed intellectual superiority. You can't see THAT IT'S ALL A DISTRACTION. All of it. Every last piss poor, grainy, out of focus picture. Every poorly edited video. Every cheap, cheesy, 2 hour "Eye opening documentary". ALL.....A......DISTRACTION



ETA: You did answer all of my questions: Nothing new, just more Hoosier Daddy

ETA 2: If you're TRULY disconnected from the media-biased propaganda as you claim, how can you be aware of "when things start happening"? Youtube? 2nd or 3rd party sharing on other websites? Truth be told, you are still influenced by media manipulation. It doesn't matter how many channels it has to go thru to get to you, it's still propaganda.

[fabiodriven]

Scooter you're completely wrong on a multitude of levels and not worth my time. Good to see you acting your age at least.

[Scootertrash]

That's OK, I understand. It's gotta be tough when one of your potential lambs turns out to be a black sheep and refuses to follow the rest of the herd.


"For those that refuse to see the world for what it is, and look through rose colored glasses, you tend to NOT be a victim, but rather a volunteer."-Unknown

[fabiodriven]

That's exactly what they want you to be Scooter, and you are a prime example. Many would sooner die than be conquered by force. Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

[Scootertrash]

Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

Think about what I just quoted you on above. Seriously.

You are trying to convince me (and others) if we follow you and your various forms of shall we say, "enlightenment", that we are "enacting our own will" by freeing ourselves from governmental and media control and propaganda.

JFC, you can't make this sh!t up!

By you making the statement I quoted above:

(Just for clarification):

Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

You've just admitted that "they" have made you their slave because they've "tricked you into thinking you're exacting your own will" by subscribing to the videos and theories you post up here.

You've been duped into convincing yourself you're not a sheep, but you're still a sheep because they tricked you into believing you're not one.

The joke's on you , huh?

Thanks for helping make my point that IT'S ALL A DISTRACTION

[fabiodriven]

Pat yourself on your back Scooter. Nobody else is going to do it.

[Scootertrash]

He`s a cash cow .......and happy to be one ........just look at whats happening to the money ........it`s running threw your fingers like the sands of time ........ you retire .......all of a sudden it`s not good enough ........you`re eating Mac & cheese cause peanut butters too high .......theres no good life anymore ........the median price for housing here is $579K ........who qualifies for that ? .........you don`t stand a chance ........and you roll the dice on how long your gonna live before the government lets you have your peanuts back ? .........fa-q .......it`s a sick foogen game ......why do you gotta kill yourself with a 30yr. career ?........just to live 10 more yrs........not on the street !........i look at people begging for money on the streets and think .......they have it better then i do......and Trump gave in to the insurance co . just just like every other Pussified President ........fack dem all ! ........trash-nado !

I know, right, huh glamy?

Too far in to bail out, too far out to start over. And they won't pay me back a lump sum of what I've put in. Fack me runnin'

I have far too many friends, relatives and aquaintances that have lived to a ripe old age living a comfortable retirement. If you planned your retirement to survive on SS alone, you're a fool.

Once I retire, I'll come down, you and I will burn a big fattie. You supply the mac and cheese, I'll bring the peanut butter. Just keep your hands where I can see 'em. :naughty: :wondering :w00t:

[Scootertrash]

Pat yourself on your back Scooter. Nobody else is going to do it.

The voice of experience talking.

I'll take that as a compliment.

[Scootertrash]

It's gotta be hard to backstroke inna sand...........

[fabiodriven]

Scooter I'm going to attempt to reply to all of your most recent posts here as a whole. Please bear in mind that I have not felt the most satisfied with my writing or train of thought as of late, which is why I haven't been posting much anywhere. I am a disabled person in certain senses and I must remind myself of that when I get frustrated with myself for being that way. Honestly your posting this morning was very aggressive and felt very hostile to me and in the past I've tried to get the message across how much I appreciate your posting in my threads and how much I enjoy your thoughts. I can not say that for this morning. I had my own things going on today and this morning I really wish my phone wouldn't have been telling me when people were posting in this thread, but that's in no way your fault.

Why it is difficult for me to reply to you again is because this is the same old tune from you. I could very well copy and paste an older post from this very thread to answer everything you have just asked in all of your most recent posts, but honestly it has become a waste of time for me. That is why I said "you're not worth my time" earlier. I was not saying that to belittle you, maybe just dismiss at the moment, but when I said that I meant exactly what it said. You are truly not worth my words because you don't even take them for what they are every time I take the time to lay them out for you. I have no idea the foundation of your aggression and what I want to say right now please read very carefully and please take word for word. All the questions you pose, all the "what if" scenarios, all of them sound absolutely ridiculous in reference to the subjects at hand because as I've said 1,000 times before, you refuse to educate yourself on the subjects at hand. All the videos and links I and others share in here would add up to probably tens of hours of material, all taken months or years to produce, all done by people who have dedicated their lives to these subjects, and I have a certain fetish that makes me believe the things I do and listen to the people I do. I like transparency. I have said this already, but I do not believe in the same people you do. I watch the things I watch and read the things I read from people who are sources that I have decided to trust. You have an issue with not paying taxes. I don't know if it's in this thread or not, but I can link a video that has actual IRS agents admitting on camera that there are no laws in the books saying that you HAVE to pay your federal income tax. Your federal income tax is supposed to be voluntary and there is nothing written that says you MUST pay it, so there is nothing the government can technically do if you do not pay them. This has been taken to the supreme court and won more than once, and that is a fact. And another thing before I continue.

I'm not asking you to believe me, I'm asking you to view other people who have had first hand experiences in life and in levels of the government that very few will speak from. Yes, me listening to government people. Because they speak out against it? No. Because they speak the truth. Very simple. As always for the umpteenth time, backed with facts. I don't care what your point is, it's not much without proof. There are so many factual, proven things going on every day that we're not supposed to pay attention to that you haven't even given yourself the chance to dismiss, you reject the idea without ever even looking at why there are so many people speaking up on these subjects. You flat out refuse to look into these subjects before you come in here claiming to debate when at this point you're doing nothing more than trolling and mucking up my thread. You very, very rarely these days see me posting in other people's threads when they have to do with current events or politics and that is simply because most times the subject at hand is something I have absolutely no business commenting on. This would be the case with you throughout this entire thread. It's very frustrating because your questions are answered in all of these videos and links, so they look absurd to anyone WHO HAS ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO REVIEW THE MATERIAL.

My head hurts now.

I would love to stop paying taxes, however our government has made that a very difficult equation. I'm all for paying for a proper government, however this one is broken beyond repair. It needs to be taken down to the foundation and then dug to bedrock. There is no alternative in my opinion. I do not enjoy that they take a huge amount of America's tax dollars to essentially fund their global domination, and I'm sure you think it's a noble cause. I happen to disagree. I happen to know that if people could get their heads out of their asses and learn to get along, there are more than enough resources on this planet for all to live in harmony. I bet that made you snicker, call me a hippy now. I love that. I am a f*ckin hippy, and I'm proud of it. You are mocking my very way of life and ideals that are to my core, with the will to help and make changes and the fire to fight for them, however fighting is the very core of the problem, so that is not the way. My home is for sale and I will live a modest lifestyle with very few belongings, just as you suggest, but not because you suggest it. Because that's what I see as right and the only way for me. My days are spent attempting to improve my home enough to sell and riding my motorcycle. I am high maintenance in the sense that I cannot work for very long periods of time and I must consciously keep my cool, it doesn't happen on it's own. My bike is my sanity. It broke today which was one of many issues this morning, but everything happens for a reason.

You accuse me of speaking down to you. I do no such thing. I might suggest it is you looking up upon me, and that is in no way my intention. You can get that in check on your own because that's not my issue. If you feel submissive it is of your own doing, I can assure you. I never once called you stupid nor did I insinuate such a thing. I don't have to think back about that because I do not make a habit of name calling, and not just because it's against the rules of the forum, that's just how I live life every day. If anyone has insinuated anything about you being stupid, again you can take that up with yourself. I certainly did state that you are ignorant, and in my eyes that is a fact. The very questions you post in this thread over and over again are my proof of that. Unfortunately it's proof that you're unable to see because again, you have no idea of what it is we are discussing.

I have no group I am leading nor am I looking to do so. I have no following to speak of, aside from the four guys I ride with who tail me. I am not looking to recruit members for any said group and if I were, it certainly wouldn't be you. Most people I meet are blind, I'm very used to that. You're f*ckin Hellen Keller man. You opened the Kool-Aid packet and poured it down your throat like Fun-Dip with a dash of water to chase. You've got it so bad it's painful to watch, hence the suggestions that some try to send your way to help, because we care, not because we want to argue. I don't care if you never see things my way, that's fine, but for f*ck's sakes if you're going to partake in the discussion please, please, please look at the material being discussed or please consider not posting out of common courtesy. It's silly Scooter. I have spent countless hours learning things from men and women from all walks of life who have things to truthfully share that are irrefutable, but there is no way I or anyone else in this thread can sit here and play 20 questions with you. These are massive world issues here, issues that I'm convinced are way out of your realm of imagination by the way you saunter around this thread like a flower girl tossing meaningless questions this way and that. I, nor can anyone else, sit here and type out a reply to a question that you have asked that took a ten minute, fifteen minute, or hour plus long video for us to understand in the first place. It just doesn't work that way. You want to know the answers to all of your questions I can assure you they all exist, every one of them, and so many of them are right here in this very thread, but you refuse to learn, and that's just not my or anyone else's problem. That's your problem. Please stop trolling my thread, please. I wanted you to educate yourself before, I really did, but now I just don't care. It's disrespectful to me as a person who is investing my entire being into this very lifestyle, into these "things" and issues we're discussing, and you're getting to the point of being quite offensive and quite the pest. It's also disrespectful to those who have taken the time to produce these videos and write these articles about truths that should be known but very frequently they are not. Scooter please pay attention to this; these people are risking their lives for the sake of you and I by opening their mouths in many cases. Many have already been killed in the past for sharing things that were not supposed to be shared. That absolutely happens and that is real life.

What you don't realize is the love we all on this side share, for you and for everyone else. Scooter if there is no planet, then nothing else matters. Does that make sense? We aren't in this for money or to recruit you to anything, I'm not in a cult or a religion,I do not have followers, I am surer than shite not garnering at all for your attention, I can assure you of that, and this is not bullsh*t. There are things that I am certain exist out there, and as age and life have taken a bite out of me as of late, I still have the ability to see and do things that others cannot. You loathe when I suggest that, but there is no way of showing you that via a computer screen. I have amazed myself as well as others many times, and I will continue to do so, and I hope someday I can show you that.

There are sooo many things you've asked, so many questions, and there are so many long, drawn out answers to each one, and we're talking about years of studying in my case to be able to see where all these loose ends tie together and how this all works as one, as a machine, and you expect me to sit here in one post and sum it all up for you. It doesn't work that way pal. This entire thread is your answer, it's all here. You're the only one asking because everyone else either knows the material or doesn't know enough to comment. You just don't give a frig. There are also all the answers you seek out there, but you must take the time to find them. Coming into my thread and tossing chairs around does not make you the "winner". I could see you glowing in what you perceived as your little "victory" this morning, but it was really sad to me. It's sad that you actually thought that about a person who never once raised his defenses or did anything more than care for his fellow human being and suggest that we live up to our capabilities rather than just exist.

I'm sure I could continue this. I'm sure nobody aside from you is going to really read this and give a rat's arse Scooter, because people don't need to see senseless arguments in a thread that's attempting to give away the ideals of true freedom and true patriotism. You lack the vision to see, and I know that goes up your arse sideways because it's the truth, so instead of taking it out on me, take it out on the person who keeps posting on this subject yet refuses educate himself on it.

If I might make a suggestion, because you happen to find this thread so very enthralling and can't seem to stay out of it, I'd like to suggest you start from the very beginning of this thread and watch each and every video, look at every single link posted, and then comment on these ideals after you know how they work or are proposed to work. It would make your posts infinitely more relevant and we could actually have a discussion instead of wasting time with your senseless questions. You don't have to watch them all at once, you can watch them one at a time and then comment on each one as you go, and you can tell us all why any of them wouldn't work, why they don't make sense, or the people speaking in these videos are full of beans, but then you must provide some decent proof or a reasonable argument as to how you came to that conclusion. That would make for a far more productive thread than just random questions fired off in every direction and accusations of misinformation. You don't even know the sources, I do, so that makes me the authority in this moment. I dare you to become a true counter point, because for now, you're the one with the tinfoil hat my friend.

[fabiodriven]

Glamy you better be f*ckin joking about the opioids and whiskey. I'll put my foot right in your f*ckin arse!

[83ATC185]

Are you that emotionally insecure that a 30 second bit on TV makes you feel inadequate? Watching "Cops"? :rolleyes: What, No Jerry Springer or Maury Povich episodes were on?

No i don't feel inadequate because i don't have a battery powered mop.

Cite your sources, I'm up for some good laughs.

For this i have no reference.



Do you have kids? Do they attend publik skool?

No kids, but have you ever tried to do common core math?



WTF does this mean?

It means that i believe there are a lot of crimes in this country, that aren't crimes at all, as they have no real victim


Would you prefer that some Jackwagon total your car and injure your family members because they were texting, or just plain couldn't drive worth a sh!t, and then you have to pay for a car and/or hospital bills out of your own pocket?

Well of course not. I'm saying there has got to be a better way to handle things than letting the government force you to buy something.


9/10 of a cent tax per gallon? You obviously don't have a clue what your talking about

Fuel had a tax of a half cent per gallon although now it may purely be marketing with the whole 9/10 thing, i may be wrong as to how much of that 9/10 is actually tax.



Do you have a house? Land? Rent? Live in your mom's basement?

Land and a home, and if i don't pay the taxes on it, my property and everything on it gets sold at an auction.

Do you think all property should be community property?

Absolutely not.



Put your money where your mouth is and do it. Seriously. Stop paying your taxes. Start a thread and keep updating it so you can let us know how it goes for you.

I never said i would stop paying taxes, i simply stated that if you want to stop the government in its tracks, that's the way to do it.

Every keyboard commando that posts "stop paying your taxes" all have one thing in common: They don't have the balls to actually do it.

You're absolutely right. Because people that don't pay taxes don't get on the internet and brag about it.




No Jerry Springer, Maury, or Honey Boo Boo here.

[fabiodriven]

Also, there have been some songs posted to accentuate a point or whatever it you're trying to do. Many may not be aware of just who Mark Tremonti is. He was the lead guitarist for Creed and currently is the lead guitarist of Alter Bridge. He was once described to me as "a musician's musician", and I feel his most recent solo work, where he also is the lead vocalist, is his best work to date. So without further ado, "The Things I've Seen", by Tremonti.

https://youtu.be/JmZZTswXoP4

[Scootertrash]

Fabio, you are so off base with your complete post that you're standing in the stadium parking lot holding you're wiener.

[fabiodriven]

That's one of the few places with room enough to hold it.

[Scootertrash]

The sun shadow of a small object always looks significantly larger than the original.

[fabiodriven]

They call me the sundial but that's not why.

[Ranvier]

A true dick swinging contest now.

[Dirtcrasher]

I think allot of people prefer to ignore things.

Reality is just too scary for many people.

Now go make a sandwich and put it in a bag with a Snickers bar and some pretzel sticks and get your ARSE back to work and make the rich richer!! Peasant....

[Jd110]

^^agreed. I hear you, fabio. I tend to ignore some things as well. Maybe it has something to do with the family and the dreams we share. The crazier things get, the more time we'll spend together.
Plus, I'm not sure I could do much about any of these worldly issues. So, I ask myself "why worry". I could just be an ignorant sob, but I got a lot out of your thread, thus far.

[atc007]

What does N Korea have that we are after? I Seriously do not know . I don't watch the news,so I don't know.

[fabiodriven]

North Korea is one of very few places left on the planet not controlled by the federal reserve. Once that is taken into consideration, and that's fact, a person would be nothing short of biased if they didn't at least consider that North Korea's stance could possibly be a defensive one as opposed to offensive.

[atc007]

Agreed , and I know Dude ;). Just saying, it's usually not far below the surface and blatant. Oil, gold, opium...etc. Been chatting with a Marine lately, he's in Norway. At the very high risk of insulting him.... I said wow, Norway,,, what's there we want to steal,,,,OIL !! He said,,oil,,, I'm stationed here for oil. Poor guy knows what's up.

[El Camexican]

I don't think the US wants anything from NK other than for them to quit amping up tension in the region.

China desperately needs a physical buffer between itself and western civilization and that's why NK exists. Prior to its current leadership the communist party of the PRC was close to splitting into fractions, but the new guy has pretty much thrown all his adversaries into prison under his anti corruption policy.

He's also grabbing up disputed real estate in the region and trying to convince Taiwan to come back into the fold and there are territory disputes with India as well.

If you want to follow the money keep your eye on the Chinese. They seem to have their little brother acting out intentionally in order to distract the world from their territory grab and it's working. If it keeps up Russia and Iran will also try to continue to spread influence as well.

I don't think we're going to see any nukes fired, but the press will once again be distracted from domestic issues and you'll be given more reasons to spend your taxes on military rather than infrastructure. Keep your eyes on the price of oil as well, those guys stand to gain the most if bullets start flying.

[fabiodriven]

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09/state-owned-central-banks-are-real.html

[fabiodriven]

More reasons to take over North Korea.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/03/north-korea-is-sitting-on-6-trillion-in-mineral-resources/

[Hurley250R]

"Its bedrock also holds a large amount of metals needed to make smartphones and other technological products"

The Liberals do love new Iphones, so they might be on-board for a takeover :lol:

[atc007]

I don't watch the news,in any way. Suppose I should. But I don't. So, I thought I would jump in and post this am. Here is as good a place as any . ...I was hacked a cpl months ago. Email,then Ppal, they bought a new Iphone thru ebay, which kicked into my credit card. Once they are inside your email, the sewer trolls watch your email for the alerts congratulating you on your ebay purchase and delete the emails instantly as they come in, so you never know. No biggy,,, Ppal refunded my money and the credit card. Changed all my passwords to very strong ones . A good friend has 20 years in military Intel,and has been a private contractor for them for 7 more. He said they had put a keystroke virus in. By chance and work, switched computers.. So fresh start all the way around.

Got hacked again a cpl weeks ago. Just email. I went into my contacts,,I've had the same email for 17 1/2 years. ALL the good stuff,,everyone and everything... Family, friends, every new ATC/ATV/Bike I knew of,names,numbers locations,,,all gone. Even has a tab, restore all deleted contacts,,,nothing. It's wiped clean... So,,, this morning,as always I have a zillion things that I need to be doing outside,but I'm stuck in here making calls and fighting paperwork for my brother... I ask my girls if there is any bacon left.. They have 2 friends over,and well,,, they eat like horses.. What pops up on the ad side of my email???????? Hormel ads for bacon, Oscar mayer ads for bacon. I have many friends that tape over the cameras on their computers,,but THIS?? I am freaking speechless. I am sure most of you realize every time you search for a truck, you get GMC or Ford truck ads along the side of your emails,and even on here at 3WW. But voice!!?? Anyone else? I will be calling my buddy, but this crap is just nuts..

[El Camexican]

I don't watch the news,in any way. Suppose I should. But I don't. So, I thought I would jump in and post this am. Here is as good a place as any . ...I was hacked a cpl months ago. Email,then Ppal, they bought a new Iphone thru ebay, which kicked into my credit card. Once they are inside your email, the sewer trolls watch your email for the alerts congratulating you on your ebay purchase and delete the emails instantly as they come in, so you never know. No biggy,,, Ppal refunded my money and the credit card. Changed all my passwords to very strong ones . A good friend has 20 years in military Intel,and has been a private contractor for them for 7 more. He said they had put a keystroke virus in. By chance and work, switched computers.. So fresh start all the way around.

Got hacked again a cpl weeks ago. Just email. I went into my contacts,,I've had the same email for 17 1/2 years. ALL the good stuff,,everyone and everything... Family, friends, every new ATC/ATV/Bike I knew of,names,numbers locations,,,all gone. Even has a tab, restore all deleted contacts,,,nothing. It's wiped clean... So,,, this morning,as always I have a zillion things that I need to be doing outside,but I'm stuck in here making calls and fighting paperwork for my brother... I ask my girls if there is any bacon left.. They have 2 friends over,and well,,, they eat like horses.. What pops up on the ad side of my email???????? Hormel ads for bacon, Oscar mayer ads for bacon. I have many friends that tape over the cameras on their computers,,but THIS?? I am freaking speechless. I am sure most of you realize every time you search for a truck, you get GMC or Ford truck ads along the side of your emails,and even on here at 3WW. But voice!!?? Anyone else? I will be calling my buddy, but this crap is just nuts..

I hate cyber thieves. I've had my cards cloned a half dozen times, my wife was hacked for the umpteenth time a couple weeks back, my Mercado Libre account was hacked 30 seconds after I opened it and one of our sister companies servers has been hacked and held for ransomed three times in less than a year! Forget the fact that they have all the latest anti whatever ware, the company that they hired after the first hack dropped the ball and... well, I'd better stop there and let the lawyers settle that mess.

At the end of the day I feel like the guys that could stop this prefer to just keep selling us updates. Kind of like the medical profession, why sell the cure once when you can treat the symptoms forever. Cashless society my azz, I'm scared to take the cards out of the house these days. I'd prefer to just hand some dude with a gun whatever's in my pocket and move on than spend hours on the phone and filling out forms.

Icing on the cake is realizing that eBay (or someone that works there) sold my cell number to the robo callers. I know this for a fact as I have the number linked to an eBay account my wife runs and every time they call they ask for her by name. NO ONE else on the planet has her name tied to that phone.

All our info is for sale and God only knows who's watching us on our computers. I look at a tire on Rocky Mountain ATV and 1 minute later I log on to 3WW and there's a RMATV banner on the screen advertising tires. Happens every time. If I look at something on eBay, RMATV whatever I looked at or bought starts popping up on this site and my Yahoo window.

Case in point, I bought some silver Mexican coins yesterday on eBay and there is an ad in Spanish for silver coins at the bottom of my screen right now.

Whoever you are ..I.,

[fabiodriven]

I've been saying for years the anti virus companies are the ones who stand to gain the most from computer viruses. It's a racket. It's sad this is what people have been reduced to.

[El Camexican]

I've been saying for years the anti virus companies are the ones who stand to gain the most from computer viruses. It's a racket. It's sad this is what people have been reduced to.

There is something to the system Apple uses that must work better. I've never heard of an iPhone or Cloud hack, but I imagine Big Brother can do it.

Keep your eyes to the South John, my next text may be an encrypted smoke signal :lol:

[knappyfeet]

I've been saying for years the anti virus companies are the ones who stand to gain the most from computer viruses. It's a racket. It's sad this is what people have been reduced to.

Amen!!.......

[atc007]

Amen El. I couldn't have said it better. And yes, with my old Apple, which I am in the process of rebuilding with guidance from my Intel buddy,,I never had a single problem. Not to say they don't. But I felt 100000 times more secure using it. E very time I switched comp before,I would download the tool and get rid of mccafee or Norton,and put on a free one. I have not done that on this one yet,,,obviously. Completely unrelated,but this is a newer HP. This steaming pile of garbage has so damn many apps on it, it couldn't perform as a computer unless I spent 2 days erasing garbage out of it. Straight out of the box! Totally clocked down till it can't even work. But this is a great comp for most sheeple because it has this that and the other thing. I own it because it was a $600 comp and I walked out of Staples with it for $179. I got screwed....My buddy can't stop by till he gets back stateside,really awaiting his thoughts.. till it happens to you live and in person ,IN YOUR DAMN CHAIR, in your home... I guess there's no explanation good enough.

[El Camexican]

Yikes! Fortunately I get my computers through work pre-cleaned and set up to run through a filter in the USA no matter where I am. It's hyper sensitive. I get blocked from all kinds of sites you wouldn't think could be a problem.

Where my problems start are with my personal computer which is an old work laptop that has been unhooked from our cyber cops system. That and what I'm certain are people reading my bank cards through my jeans and wallet when I'm in the States. The cloning always happens after I've been up there. I have one of those FR blocking cases for my cards, I just forget to use it.

[Arky-X]

What drives me nuts are the industries (medical, cable providers, etc) that still ask you for personal information. I refuse to give it and they say they have to have it. Then the argument begins;
"Sir, I can assure you your information is safe."
"How do you know that? Do you work in cyber security for your company? You work cyber security AND the front desk? Impressive!"

I've had fraud charges on credit cards before but have been lucky so far that Visa or MC caught them quick. They have impressive algorithms to flag suspicious activity. Just think, they employ that type of technology because they have much to lose. The anti-virus and web tracking employ the same type of technology because they have much to gain.

Let's be careful out there!

[fabiodriven]

If someone were to suggest to you that you may be part of a virtual reality, pretty much the same way it's presented to you in "The Matrix", many might find that hard to believe. If science had set out to prove or disprove this theory and almost all signs pointed to our "reality" actually being virtual, would you believe it?

As I've said from the beginning of this thread, I love facts backed by science. While the jury is still out as far as a definitive answer goes, all signs point to our "reality" being virtual as opposed to actually being "real", whatever that is. Elon Musk is quoted as saying "The chances of our 'reality' actually being 'real' are approximately a billion to one." I tend to believe him.

If you think about it, if you could truly wrap your mind around the idea of living in a virtual reality and come to terms with it, then you could in theory have a much better grasp of shaping your reality than you might otherwise. You might be capable of doing things that other people who do not understand would find amazing. Using ideas hatched in our brains and brought forth by the limbs we control, we can all create the reality we see fit for ourselves to a degree. If a task seems insurmountable, then we can chip away at it bit by bit and focus as much of our energy and movement in the direction desired until we eventually can hold or see the initial idea, which started out as just a tiny electrical impulse, come to fruition in what we perceive as the physical realm. This is the art of manifestation. If you knew for a fact that we did live in a matrix, then it would be no surprise to you if you were suddenly able to create the surroundings you would like to see most around you, or create an existence that you might otherwise have a hard time ascertaining if you followed the rules of nature or Newtonian physics, as well as the rules imposed by society and the imposed "ideals" that are implied you should hold highest. If you knew that the rules you "know" can be bent and broken, then you might take advantage and make what you want of life.

The following video is under 23 minutes, it's not that long, and in that short amount of time you will see how modern science is in the process of proving our existence to be virtual. Scientists did not set out to prove our reality is virtual as opposed to not, but rather started out asking questions and presenting theories with an unbiased mindset. The results are the results, and it wasn't anyone's intention to prove this is a matrix, but rather see where the facts lead them. These theories are then put to the test and scientifically reviewed by people far more credible than myself. It helps if you're already familiar with the "double slit experiment". This is not a movie and this stuff is not made up. This is quantum mechanics and quantum theory, this is real life. Or is it?

If your board name happens to rhyme with "Cootergash", I must insist you review the material provided before you reply to this thread anymore.

We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CyN8rYdX6g

[atc007]

Completely and totally beyond me. My full respect for your ability to follow ANY of that !

[El Camexican]

Fascinating. I've seen videos about the behavior of the partials reacting to observation before, but not the double slit effect. The idea that things can change simply due to observation is a little hard to wrap my mind around. What does that imply when bad things occur?

One thing I am pretty sure of it that if we can ever understand and harness the behavior of the partials on a large scale like our bodies we could scoot from one dimension to another in less than a blink. Or could it be that when we close or eyes and imagine we're doing something else we actuary are somewhere else? If passive observation can change the way a particle reacts imagine what focused mental energy could do?

Now imagine the focus as a group effort. Like a prayer group maybe? They claim to have positive effects on outcomes at times, could it be that simple that putting enough peoples focus on a problem could effectively change the way the cells in a cancer victim react? You could literally solve sickness with thought.

Sadly it seems that as society "evolves" we are becoming more introverted with our concerns and less so with each other, so it's most likely we'll destroy ourselves before we ever understand and harness this force.

[fabiodriven]

Fascinating. I've seen videos about the behavior of the partials reacting to observation before, but not the double slit effect. The idea that things can change simply due to observation is a little hard to wrap my mind around. What does that imply when bad things occur?

One thing I am pretty sure of it that if we can ever understand and harness the behavior of the partials on a large scale like our bodies we could scoot from one dimension to another in less than a blink. Or could it be that when we close or eyes and imagine we're doing something else we actuary are somewhere else? If passive observation can change the way a particle reacts imagine what focused mental energy could do?

Now imagine the focus as a group effort. Like a prayer group maybe? They claim to have positive effects on outcomes at times, could it be that simple that putting enough peoples focus on a problem could effectively change the way the cells in a cancer victim react? You could literally solve sickness with thought.

Sadly it seems that as society "evolves" we are becoming more introverted with our concerns and less so with each other, so it's most likely we'll destroy ourselves before we ever understand and harness this force.

Fantastic post Nico!

So the double slit experiment: Some, but not all, of the visual clips in the most recent video I posted, are from a movie called "What the Bleep Do We Know?", which is about quantum physics, quantum theory, and quantum mechanics. That is, if memory serves me. As I said before, it does help if you already have an understanding about the double slit experiment, but you've obviously grasped it regardless which is good. It's obvious that the experiment has piqued your curiosity, so I'd suggest watching the aforementioned movie. It's absolutely fascinating stuff and I can tell by your train of thought that you can grasp it. Not everyone can. As Bill said, he doesn't quite get it. There is no shame in that though, as I've showed this stuff to other people who have said the same thing. For whatever reason, I seem to have a knack for it I guess. My friend Joe you met at the Invasion used to study a lot of the same material I did as far as the law of attraction. We both started our respective journeys into this realm at about the same time and have both learned a lot. He's read a lot more books than I have, but I've watched a lot more videos than he. Our drives are different, and our ideas of "success" differ greatly, but we did start out on the same path. He used to go to church and I tried that with him once, not for me. Not long after that was when I discovered quantum physics. I began to eat it up and I wanted to share it with my friend Joe so I tried to show him some stuff, but he just couldn't get it. Again, no shame in that, but he came right out and said it was way over his head. He's no dummy either. So it's not for everyone I've learned.

Focused energy- I'm flying kind of blind here as I've not brushed up on the subject for quite some time, but focused energy groups absolutely do work, 100%. I don't recall the exact things I've seen but somewhere up in my noodle I remember learning about that. I would certainly partake if the opportunity ever arises. As far as curing oneself, a huge amount of the battle is fought in your own head. I am living proof of that. A huge percentage of people would have accepted the diagnosis I got for Lyme disease and just withered away or spent years in and out of the hospital. Neither of those were options for me. I refused to continue my life that way and I knew I would find another way, and I was willing to go to the Amazon as the great Glamy suggested. It was that bad. The very day things came to a head, I was working and simultaneously on the interwebs, the phone, and texting with anyone who had a shred of information for me. I was in big, life-altering trouble and I knew it. Things got really serious really fast, and nothing else at all mattered in the least anymore. It just so happened that on that particular day I was hauling multiple loads out of the same yard and hauling back to my place of work. On about my third load out, I happened to notice a home made stencil sign on the side of the road that read "Got Lyme disease?". I was amazed it had taken me so long to notice the sign and even after I did, I was so thrown off by the fact I'd just seen that sign that I hesitated to call. I was almost in disbelief. Now if you think about it, and if we are each the masters of our own personal universe, who's to say that sign would have ever existed had I decided to submit in the hospital in the first place and act like someone who has Lyme disease is expected to act? I could have created an entirely different future for myself if I decided to follow the suggested path. It was that one decision when I decided what I was expected to do wasn't good enough for me, and I didn't ask how or why, but rather allowed the opportunity to manifest itself. The universe always provides.

I began reading a book by Dr Joe Dispenza a few years back. I don't recall Dr Dispenza's particular affliction, but if memory serves me he's supposed to be severely crippled as far as the traditional medical community is concerned, and let us not forget the power of projection. When you're given a diagnosis like that, that idea can be projected in your head just as clearly as ink on a paper. Their diagnosis can lend your affliction credence, therefor making it all the more real to you. The first step to healing is made in your mind. I saw people taking the same treatment I did for Lyme disease not improve at all solely because they had it made up in their mind it was hocus-pocus. Our traditional medical community is a mixed up, for-profit business that takes advantage of those in need. Sure it's great if I hurt myself seriously and need to go to the hospital, but we have an epidemic of pill popping mongoloids and the medical establishment is to thank for that. Their answer to affliction is a treatment, very rarely a cure. In my example, people spend years and surrender everything worldly they own in order to "get better", but it takes them so long to get there and they'll likely never be in as good of shape as I am, and it didn't take me years and it took two appointments a week, and no drugs. Did you know that chemo therapy has a 97% fail rate? Stifling, is it not? And I guarantee you there is a cure for cancer out there. Dr Gerson was an amazing man.

At any rate, I did not get to finish Dr Joe Dispenza's book. I only got a chapter or two in, but I got the gist at the beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLyMhNdcSc

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[El Camexican]

The topic came up at supper tonight, wife is into this pretty deep, but usually we get into arguments when discussing it for too long.

My daughter says the observed partials change behavior due to the energy we emit when we observe. She likens it to that feeling we get when we think someone is watching us which she says proves that we emit a detectable energy.

More thought chow.

[Jesus]

I see my children are making use of the apple’s gift, but to what end?

Look no further than the exploitation of the atom to know what those with dark hearts will do with what is perceived to have been harnessed.

While I cannot share with mortals what it is they seek to know before it has been discovered, I can point towards already discovered truths that you may wish to follow, but to do so with less than a pure soul will lead only to darkness and further misunderstanding.

Your wise ones have realized that the only constant in the Universe is change. Those who also believe in the positive force of my father’s never ending love are also correct as it too is constant, but those who insist that good cannot exist without evil are poisoned with hatred from forces I will not name.

With your own mortal eyes and mouths you chose to see and speak what you want each day, but in your mortal form you will never know a single day without a negative, or evil thought (sin if you will) within your mind (soul if you chose). This is the burden of the flesh and yours to bear as you walk the Earth. You chose this life, or do you not remember?

Yet there is reason to rejoice, for with the constant of change comes the end of one life and the beginning of another, just as the sun sets and rises and the seasons come and go, thus you must know this applies to all God’s Universe.

Fear not the weapons your earthly leaders threaten with, the rising tides of your shores, the unrest and sin of your fellow man, or even the eventual end of the sun star that gives light and life to all by the grace of God. For without change there cannot be evolution which is part of my Father’s perfect plan. All must change, even the skies above will one day cease to expand and the Universe will retract to the singular with which it began, yet only to begin again, for life as you know it today lasts but one grain of sand in God’s hourglass.

Ask yourself the name of the singular, for there can be only one and to know him is to know bliss and eternal life, albeit not as you may know it today, for not all its secrets can be revealed until they are learned and to learn them you must first be pure enough to be part of the one.

Open your minds to the inevitability of change, the necessity of continued repetition and learning as a means of universal purification until such time as the collective force of positive thought and action will overcome the dark forces of evil. The day awaits you, a day when good will triumph over evil and the force of change will be altered towards that of goodness and love forevermore.

Enough has been said here. Continue to expand your minds and search your souls for goodness, don’t let those with dark hearts and minds poisoned with negativity deter your quest for knowledge of God’s miracle.

Be pure and fill your heart with love and goodness will return to you in abundance saith the Lord

[Jd110]

^^Dude!! That's great. Sincerely, thank you.

[fabiodriven]

Lord hear our prayers...

[fabiodriven]

The frig you tryna say Glamy?!

[knappyfeet]

You might beat my arse .....fabs .......besides i would never disrespect you in your own thread ........Jesus is watching ! Hey have you guys noticed there's a lot of stupid sh!t going down like ...... civil war?........gtfo of here .......away ...away .....away down south in Dixie .......i wonder if Winn Dixie has to change their name ?......ain't changing my seat cover .....

Didn't you get the memo?.........

Your seat cover is now a hate crime!

[atc007]

^^Dude!! That's great. Sincerely, thank you.

You mean,,, Jesus..:) Great stuff fellas.

[atc007]

The topic came up at supper tonight, wife is into this pretty deep, but usually we get into arguments when discussing it for too long.

My daughter says the observed partials change behavior due to the energy we emit when we observe. She likens it to that feeling we get when we think someone is watching us which she says proves that we emit a detectable energy.

More thought chow.

You have a couple of extremely intelligent young ladies at that table. Great work bud.

[El Camexican]

You have a couple of extremely intelligent young ladies at that table. Great work bud.

Ha! What I got here is two hormonally unbalanced know-it-all's. One with too many and the other with not enough. Even with the dogs accounted for us males are still outnumbered here!

Help me Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[El Camexican]

Your seat cover is now a hate crime!

Anyone else find it amusing that the Dems have gone a full 180 since the Civil war? Still oppressing the same people, but with a different message.

[Scootertrash]

Scooter I'm going to attempt to reply to all of your most recent posts here as a whole. Please bear in mind that I have not felt the most satisfied with my writing or train of thought as of late, which is why I haven't been posting much anywhere. I am a disabled person in certain senses and I must remind myself of that when I get frustrated with myself for being that way. Honestly your posting this morning was very aggressive and felt very hostile to me and in the past I've tried to get the message across how much I appreciate your posting in my threads and how much I enjoy your thoughts. I can not say that for this morning. I had my own things going on today and this morning I really wish my phone wouldn't have been telling me when people were posting in this thread, but that's in no way your fault.

Why it is difficult for me to reply to you again is because this is the same old tune from you. I could very well copy and paste an older post from this very thread to answer everything you have just asked in all of your most recent posts, but honestly it has become a waste of time for me. That is why I said "you're not worth my time" earlier. I was not saying that to belittle you, maybe just dismiss at the moment, but when I said that I meant exactly what it said. You are truly not worth my words because you don't even take them for what they are every time I take the time to lay them out for you. I have no idea the foundation of your aggression and what I want to say right now please read very carefully and please take word for word. All the questions you pose, all the "what if" scenarios, all of them sound absolutely ridiculous in reference to the subjects at hand because as I've said 1,000 times before, you refuse to educate yourself on the subjects at hand. All the videos and links I and others share in here would add up to probably tens of hours of material, all taken months or years to produce, all done by people who have dedicated their lives to these subjects, and I have a certain fetish that makes me believe the things I do and listen to the people I do. I like transparency. I have said this already, but I do not believe in the same people you do. I watch the things I watch and read the things I read from people who are sources that I have decided to trust. You have an issue with not paying taxes. I don't know if it's in this thread or not, but I can link a video that has actual IRS agents admitting on camera that there are no laws in the books saying that you HAVE to pay your federal income tax. Your federal income tax is supposed to be voluntary and there is nothing written that says you MUST pay it, so there is nothing the government can technically do if you do not pay them. This has been taken to the supreme court and won more than once, and that is a fact. And another thing before I continue.

I'm not asking you to believe me, I'm asking you to view other people who have had first hand experiences in life and in levels of the government that very few will speak from. Yes, me listening to government people. Because they speak out against it? No. Because they speak the truth. Very simple. As always for the umpteenth time, backed with facts. I don't care what your point is, it's not much without proof. There are so many factual, proven things going on every day that we're not supposed to pay attention to that you haven't even given yourself the chance to dismiss, you reject the idea without ever even looking at why there are so many people speaking up on these subjects. You flat out refuse to look into these subjects before you come in here claiming to debate when at this point you're doing nothing more than trolling and mucking up my thread. You very, very rarely these days see me posting in other people's threads when they have to do with current events or politics and that is simply because most times the subject at hand is something I have absolutely no business commenting on. This would be the case with you throughout this entire thread. It's very frustrating because your questions are answered in all of these videos and links, so they look absurd to anyone WHO HAS ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO REVIEW THE MATERIAL.

My head hurts now.

I would love to stop paying taxes, however our government has made that a very difficult equation. I'm all for paying for a proper government, however this one is broken beyond repair. It needs to be taken down to the foundation and then dug to bedrock. There is no alternative in my opinion. I do not enjoy that they take a huge amount of America's tax dollars to essentially fund their global domination, and I'm sure you think it's a noble cause. I happen to disagree. I happen to know that if people could get their heads out of their asses and learn to get along, there are more than enough resources on this planet for all to live in harmony. I bet that made you snicker, call me a hippy now. I love that. I am a f*ckin hippy, and I'm proud of it. You are mocking my very way of life and ideals that are to my core, with the will to help and make changes and the fire to fight for them, however fighting is the very core of the problem, so that is not the way. My home is for sale and I will live a modest lifestyle with very few belongings, just as you suggest, but not because you suggest it. Because that's what I see as right and the only way for me. My days are spent attempting to improve my home enough to sell and riding my motorcycle. I am high maintenance in the sense that I cannot work for very long periods of time and I must consciously keep my cool, it doesn't happen on it's own. My bike is my sanity. It broke today which was one of many issues this morning, but everything happens for a reason.

You accuse me of speaking down to you. I do no such thing. I might suggest it is you looking up upon me, and that is in no way my intention. You can get that in check on your own because that's not my issue. If you feel submissive it is of your own doing, I can assure you. I never once called you stupid nor did I insinuate such a thing. I don't have to think back about that because I do not make a habit of name calling, and not just because it's against the rules of the forum, that's just how I live life every day. If anyone has insinuated anything about you being stupid, again you can take that up with yourself. I certainly did state that you are ignorant, and in my eyes that is a fact. The very questions you post in this thread over and over again are my proof of that. Unfortunately it's proof that you're unable to see because again, you have no idea of what it is we are discussing.

I have no group I am leading nor am I looking to do so. I have no following to speak of, aside from the four guys I ride with who tail me. I am not looking to recruit members for any said group and if I were, it certainly wouldn't be you. Most people I meet are blind, I'm very used to that. You're f*ckin Hellen Keller man. You opened the Kool-Aid packet and poured it down your throat like Fun-Dip with a dash of water to chase. You've got it so bad it's painful to watch, hence the suggestions that some try to send your way to help, because we care, not because we want to argue. I don't care if you never see things my way, that's fine, but for f*ck's sakes if you're going to partake in the discussion please, please, please look at the material being discussed or please consider not posting out of common courtesy. It's silly Scooter. I have spent countless hours learning things from men and women from all walks of life who have things to truthfully share that are irrefutable, but there is no way I or anyone else in this thread can sit here and play 20 questions with you. These are massive world issues here, issues that I'm convinced are way out of your realm of imagination by the way you saunter around this thread like a flower girl tossing meaningless questions this way and that. I, nor can anyone else, sit here and type out a reply to a question that you have asked that took a ten minute, fifteen minute, or hour plus long video for us to understand in the first place. It just doesn't work that way. You want to know the answers to all of your questions I can assure you they all exist, every one of them, and so many of them are right here in this very thread, but you refuse to learn, and that's just not my or anyone else's problem. That's your problem. Please stop trolling my thread, please. I wanted you to educate yourself before, I really did, but now I just don't care. It's disrespectful to me as a person who is investing my entire being into this very lifestyle, into these "things" and issues we're discussing, and you're getting to the point of being quite offensive and quite the pest. It's also disrespectful to those who have taken the time to produce these videos and write these articles about truths that should be known but very frequently they are not. Scooter please pay attention to this; these people are risking their lives for the sake of you and I by opening their mouths in many cases. Many have already been killed in the past for sharing things that were not supposed to be shared. That absolutely happens and that is real life.

What you don't realize is the love we all on this side share, for you and for everyone else. Scooter if there is no planet, then nothing else matters. Does that make sense? We aren't in this for money or to recruit you to anything, I'm not in a cult or a religion,I do not have followers, I am surer than shite not garnering at all for your attention, I can assure you of that, and this is not bullsh*t. There are things that I am certain exist out there, and as age and life have taken a bite out of me as of late, I still have the ability to see and do things that others cannot. You loathe when I suggest that, but there is no way of showing you that via a computer screen. I have amazed myself as well as others many times, and I will continue to do so, and I hope someday I can show you that.

There are sooo many things you've asked, so many questions, and there are so many long, drawn out answers to each one, and we're talking about years of studying in my case to be able to see where all these loose ends tie together and how this all works as one, as a machine, and you expect me to sit here in one post and sum it all up for you. It doesn't work that way pal. This entire thread is your answer, it's all here. You're the only one asking because everyone else either knows the material or doesn't know enough to comment. You just don't give a frig. There are also all the answers you seek out there, but you must take the time to find them. Coming into my thread and tossing chairs around does not make you the "winner". I could see you glowing in what you perceived as your little "victory" this morning, but it was really sad to me. It's sad that you actually thought that about a person who never once raised his defenses or did anything more than care for his fellow human being and suggest that we live up to our capabilities rather than just exist.

I'm sure I could continue this. I'm sure nobody aside from you is going to really read this and give a rat's arse Scooter, because people don't need to see senseless arguments in a thread that's attempting to give away the ideals of true freedom and true patriotism. You lack the vision to see, and I know that goes up your arse sideways because it's the truth, so instead of taking it out on me, take it out on the person who keeps posting on this subject yet refuses educate himself on it.

If I might make a suggestion, because you happen to find this thread so very enthralling and can't seem to stay out of it, I'd like to suggest you start from the very beginning of this thread and watch each and every video, look at every single link posted, and then comment on these ideals after you know how they work or are proposed to work. It would make your posts infinitely more relevant and we could actually have a discussion instead of wasting time with your senseless questions. You don't have to watch them all at once, you can watch them one at a time and then comment on each one as you go, and you can tell us all why any of them wouldn't work, why they don't make sense, or the people speaking in these videos are full of beans, but then you must provide some decent proof or a reasonable argument as to how you came to that conclusion. That would make for a far more productive thread than just random questions fired off in every direction and accusations of misinformation. You don't even know the sources, I do, so that makes me the authority in this moment. I dare you to become a true counter point, because for now, you're the one with the tinfoil hat my friend.

Just another long winded post of you fellating yourself.

You're sensing aggression?
You can get that in check on your own

You "suggest" that I'm looking up to you, but yet:
I have amazed myself as well as others many times, and I will continue to do so, and I hope someday I can show you that. You want me to look up to you. :rolleyes:


I could see you glowing in what you perceived as your little "victory" this morning
You can get that in check on your own

I didn't do a victory dance, spraying champagne all over the place. YOU stepped on your d!ck by revealing the tactic you despise the Government for using, all the while using it yourself, including in the post I quoted above:


Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

You constantly and consistently try to convince people that they're "enacting their own will" by following you, your advice, and your ideals.

You've convinced yourself that I haven't "reviewed the material" because I have a differing opinion to yours. Interesting how some individuals want people to think freely, but are surprised when their opinion is different and refuse to accept that they got exactly what they asked for. Free thinking.

I've watched all of some of the vids and links and some of all of them. When the information gets too repetitive or too cheesy, I move on.

You are convinced and contend that "former government employee witnesses" are somehow credible. Because the Government has never provided "trained observers", "credible witnesses", and "well-renowned experts" to support or discredit other so called "conspiracies", right? FFS, you'd think I was trying to convince you that the government tried to cover up a presidential assassination or the killings of thousands of Americans by toppling a couple of skyscrapers to start a war. Unpossible!



I've never seen Jesus, an angel, a UFO or an alien. Until I do, I stand by this post I made earlier in this thread, which you seem to continually ignore:


I think there is the possibility of other life forms out there.

Notice that I'm not saying that they don't exist. I just haven't seen what I need to see to be convinced of their existence, and that is myself being an eyewitness. Not what somebody told me, or what somebody said that somebody said.


"Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see"


"The problem with things you see on the internet that you don't really know if they're true"-Abraham Lincoln

In the event that I actually witness any of the above entities, I will post my experience, with any photographic evidence if possible, right here on 3WW for all to see.

[Scootertrash]

Also, there have been some songs posted to accentuate a point or whatever it you're trying to do. Many may not be aware of just who Mark Tremonti is. He was the lead guitarist for Creed and currently is the lead guitarist of Alter Bridge. He was once described to me as "a musician's musician", and I feel his most recent solo work, where he also is the lead vocalist, is his best work to date. So without further ado, "The Things I've Seen", by Tremonti.

My posting of videos is to point out the hypocrisy of musicians who are slaves to the extremely wealthy owners of the recording studios, typically owned and controlled by the very media outlets many here despise, including myself. Yet these artists have no problem being paid millions of dollars singing about social injustice, unfair distribution of wealth, or any other left-wing issue du jour, all of the musicians wealth taken from the pockets of the same disenfranchised peasants they are singing about. "It's OK for me to be a millionaire but not anybody who has more money than me, and I'll take your money to sing to you about how unfair it is."

[fabiodriven]

I don't know why you feel the need to continue to explain yourself here. I really don't give a rat's arse what your position is on anything and as I've already inferred, you're cluttering my thread. It's been going quite fantastic as of late, I mean we have Jesus in here. Farking Jesus man! Can you play nice or go away please?

[Scootertrash]

If your board name happens to rhyme with "Cootergash", I must insist you review the material provided before you reply to this thread anymore.

Nice to know I'm living rent-free in your head. There's plenty of space up here, my sofa and pool table will arrive Tuesday.

Watched about half, I'll watch the other half later. I have other more pressing things to attend to. Interesting video so far.

[El Camexican]

Can't see an atom but I know it exists. Can't see radio waves. Can't see air.

Snakes can see us fart.

[Arky-X]

Just saw Jesus......post #207

[barnett468]

I've never seen Jesus, an angel, a UFO or an alien. In the event that I actually witness any of the above entities, I will post my experience, with any photographic evidence if possible, right here on 3WW for all to see.

Hell, just drink a bottle of this shiit then and you might see em all! https://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/hysterical.gif

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PREVIOUS KAWASAKI INTERNATIONAL R & D PROJECT ENGINEER AND ATV DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR AND THE ONLY PERSON ON 3WW WITHOUT AN EDIT BUTTON OR A STAR :lock:

[fabiodriven]

The illusion of choice;

https://youtu.be/PJy8vTu66tE

[ironchop]

The illusion of choice;

https://youtu.be/PJy8vTu66tEGreat assessment of the problems with our fake democracy.

I have only have three issues of disagreement with the speaker...

1) I'm tired of white people pandering to the idea of black oppression in this country by whites because it's mostly disingenuous. I especially dislike it when a seemingly well-educated and certainly upper social station white person panders to the BLM idea. These people know nothing of black struggle nor understand black issues past what their news anchors tell them. I call this another response to white guilt and we all know you feel guilt for your own misgivings and not those of other strangers. Yakking on about how hard it is to vote for blacks is another position adopted by guilty whites of the Leftist persuasion. I'm sick of this whole "I got ID to cash muh check but somehow I don't have ID to vote"....he, like many progressives, don't understand that even while they think themselves "woke", they are still using the tools of manipulation on others that have been used on them. There are hundreds of YouTube videos on undercover cameras busting systematic voter fraud by political parties and not requiring ID is the EASIEST way to game the voting system. Ironically, the same party busted in those undercover stings is the same party hollering about "ID to vote is racist".....long lines in my district too, last election and I don't live in the hood so how do you make long lines at polls about race in my district? I know he didn't say outright that voter ID laws were used against blacks but we all know it was implied.

Funny that there's as many whites in poverty and on welfare as black folks but progressive white people like to pretend like they don't exist. It looks cooler on Tweeter when your a gringo pounding your fist in defense of impoverished minorities than it does when you defend poor white Appalachian people's....matter of fact, Progressives like to use slurs when talking about poor Appalachian people... because it's trendy and progressive. I can't stand two-faced POSs like these.

How much representation do you think the white Appalachian folks get? According to some, their white skin should guarantee them priveledges never seen by non-whites so how well does our "racist system" work for these white people? Why aren't these whites swimming in all that evil coal money?

He should have left race completely out of this talk.

2) He must be at least upper middle class white at the very least because his adoption of Bernie's idea to make voting a holiday so poor people can afford to vote is more elitist poppycock......hes so busy trying to remedy his white guilt that he doesn't bother to look around himself........so it was just Xmas.....guess who was having a nice paid holiday off? Why, people who are generally making 35K a year and up....give or take....so who was working the gas stations on Xmas day? The stores and restaurants who stay open on holidays? The jobs like tow truck driver who works 24/7/365 on call?...the very same poor people...outside of well paying healthcare jobs like the hospitals, all the people working on Xmas are poorer folks. Why THE F#$K would Bernie friggin Sanders think a voting Holiday would be any different or more considerate than the Xmas holiday already is? Because he's an idiot with elitist mentality.

Which brings me to my final point, while he thinks he's found the solution, he's still clinging to the very people and their ideas that he would have removed using his new idea of democracy. Sanders was put in that position by the same Tweeds that put Trump and Hillary there, he just had less Tweeds on his team than they.

3)we already have public funding of elections granted by Congress long ago. They learned to game that system too. I think he's short-sighted on that idea as well.

Otherwise, spot on with his assessment of the current problem



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[fabiodriven]

Very well said Doug. I almost added a disclaimer to his mentioning of race when I posted this but obviously I didn't do that. I felt exactly the same way you did about that. It almost ruined the lecture for me when he did that.