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I'm sure most on here are tired of me talking about how I'm going to retire my bike to a display piece, but this will be it's transformation from current racing condition to what a period correct racer would have most likely looked like back in the day and how it will be displayed in my garage. And honestly, probably the last post I'll have dedicated solely to it, because I don't really see it changing any in the future.
For some of the newer members who have just joined here is a little bit of the back story on this bike. My father purchased this bike in 1989 from the original owner. It might have had 5 hours on it at the most. It served the family well as a trail bike and sand drag racer for many years. My father passed in 2007 and in his honor, I decided to try a 100 percent oem restoration, but soon realized I didn't have the coin or patience for that. So i did the next best thing, build a flat track racer. The build can be seen and read in this thread:
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?t=133323
This is how the bike currently sits :
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160723/1e9373f357786b6c4bb51e170b73fd2b.jpg
The engine is a ESR Pro-x 310, with 39pwk carb, and Paul Turner Hi-Rev pipe and silencer that will soon be changed to a Rob Selvy prepped oem cylinder and a taper bored 38mm pj carb and full Bassani exhaust.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160723/5b7213a3721dc3ab574d61aa440d4cf0.jpg
The stock swingarm will be swapped out for what I think is a -1 JP Racing swingarm.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160723/0de54b78b4d7c5b841df61d60eeaa065.jpg
The front oem tire and rear h-tracs will be replaced with front and rear Hoosier Tri Trac's (I don't currently have a pic of the rears)
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160723/f5480c21b96e342ef076714d0dcf7e19.jpg
I've got a few irons in the fire right now, but I hope to peck away at it a little at a time when I have the chance. I still need to hunt down a set of oem short track shrouds and a finishline or old durablue axle.
Stay tuned!
atc12
07-23-2016, 02:08 PM
Looks sweet as it sits now and I can't wait to see it when its done.
I've definitely got a good foundation to start with. Thank you
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bkvette3
07-23-2016, 02:50 PM
Your dad would be proud - he is looking down and smiling.
Keep up the good work.
Your dad would be proud - he is looking down and smiling.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much for those words!
atcmatt
07-23-2016, 07:51 PM
Very nice, the liquid R is such a timeless machine, looks great in any format!
Usmoneylover
07-23-2016, 08:43 PM
Sweet build, both of them!
nstyle73
07-26-2016, 09:38 AM
Any chance you would not mind posting a picture of the Bassani heat shield? I have an R pipe with non-stock heat shield that I wondered if it was just an aftermarket heat shield. The pipe is stock and has HB9 stamped on it.
Any chance you would not mind posting a picture of the Bassani heat shield? I have an R pipe with non-stock heat shield that I wondered if it was just an aftermarket heat shield. The pipe is stock and has HB9 stamped on it.
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atc300r
07-26-2016, 12:19 PM
This is an awsome build. Love the oldschool parts you have for this build.These Bassani pipes are huge.Is yours squarish near the stinger where it goes above the kick start .
This is an awsome build. Love the oldschool parts you have for this build.These Bassani pipes are huge.Is yours squarish near the stinger where it goes above the kick start .
Thanks man. It looks kinda square because of the "messaging" from the Bassani factory in that area. Both my pipes were dented in the exact same spots to clear various parts of the bike, but what was kinda cool is the dents were never exactly the same size. You can tell each one was wacked a little harder or softer by whom ever was making them that day.
This pipe is actually much smaller than my Paul Turner Hi-Rev that it is replacing.
atc300r
07-26-2016, 04:46 PM
That explains alot.I thought someone hammered it to fit something it wasnt ment to fit.The silencers are long and look like they are made for a 4 stroke lol.
No, there's a lot of hammer marks on these pipes. I'm thinking once this one is cleaned up, I might sell it and hold out for a hand coned pipe.
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Tim Keister took the Selvy pipe off his 250r, not sure if it's for sale or not but worth a pm
Tim Keister took the Selvy pipe off his 250r, not sure if it's for sale or not but worth a pm
Thank you sir. I just sent him a PM.
jrush
07-27-2016, 09:52 PM
Can't wait to see this thing!
Out with the old, and in with the vintage cool!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160930/4fd4b49d0035a8ad2ab452870d5677f2.jpg
Taper bored 86 CR250 PJ 38MM with 86 CR250 reed cage.
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This is depressing, the Hoosier is too fat for the 250r and won't fit between the forks. Looks like it would be right at home on a first gen Tecate, but not the R. Looks like the oem front is going back on. I hate changing 250r front tires, what a pain in the asse!
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yaegerb
09-30-2016, 09:14 AM
you still have the front hoosier from the X I gave you? That should fit.
you still have the front hoosier from the X I gave you? That should fit.
I don't. It wouldn't be correct for this build anyway.
xrider
09-30-2016, 11:53 AM
Is that the one I sent you?
Did you try inflating it more?
Did you try inflating it more?
I did, it didn't make a difference.
Is that the one I sent you?
No, this is one I got from 86T3. Looks like a good excuse to buy a first gen Tecate again.
El Camexican
09-30-2016, 06:39 PM
Close your eyes and imagine the year is 1985 and you've won the first heat...
You're due up to the line in 15 minutes where Mickey Dunlop and some hot shot guy named Barnett (famous at the time for being the only racer with a pocket protector sewn into his jersey) that Kawasaki flew in at the last minute are waiting to be spanked, but you blew out a side wall on your front tire when you landed the last triple and the only replacement available is a Hoosier that rubs the forks.
As you desperately search the pits for a suitable replacement you spot a 7" grinder unattended near a power cord that will reach to your forks... What would the forks on a period correct trike from that moment in history look like today? :)
Seriously, does it have a tube in it? If not you might try one. It might push the tire up more than across, at least they do on dirt bike tires VS Tubliss systems.
jonolanracin
09-30-2016, 09:17 PM
Greatest post ever
Close your eyes and imagine the year is 1985 and you've won the first heat...
You're due up to the line in 15 minutes where Mickey Dunlop and some hot shot guy named Barnett (famous at the time for being the only racer with a pocket protector sewn into his jersey) that Kawasaki flew in at the last minute are waiting to be spanked, but you blew out a side wall on your front tire when you landed the last triple and the only replacement available is a Hoosier that rubs the forks.
As you desperately search the pits for a suitable replacement you spot a 7" grinder unattended near a power cord that will reach to your forks... What would the forks on a period correct trike from that moment in history look like today? :)
Seriously, does it have a tube in it? If not you might try one. It might push the tire up more than across, at least they do on dirt bike tires VS Tubliss systems.
yaegerb
09-30-2016, 10:32 PM
Greatest post ever
Lol....This is second to his bubbles per minute post. Still f'ing hilarious!
atc007
09-30-2016, 11:39 PM
Nope, you're all wrong,,,poopy pants chinese guy at the airport. :) I didn't think that hoosier was going in there ,but whatdo i know . She looks a lil cracked to be trying to persuade with a tube,,or even mounting for that matter. You have a work of art no matter what sneakers on the front. :)
jonolanracin
09-30-2016, 11:49 PM
I guess i miss the bubbles post whete is it i need a good laugh
Lol....This is second to his bubbles per minute post. Still f'ing hilarious!
El Camexican
10-01-2016, 12:16 AM
I guess i miss the bubbles post whete is it i need a good laugh
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/163391-whirlpool-washer-won-t-wash?highlight=BPM
Geez and people say I derail threads, you guys are terrible! The post I'd like to find is the definition of Barnettism. Anyone know where that one is?
PS. Love your trike and the story behind it Bryan :beer
barnett468
10-01-2016, 01:45 AM
Looks like a good excuse to buy a first gen Tecate again.
OMG...I think I just peed my Depends!
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PREVIOUS KAWASAKI INTERNATIONAL R & D PROJECT ENGINEER AND ATV DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR
Not much to report, but I did get around to finally mounting up the rear Hoosiers. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161228/00b95d623c67a56754534f6e4b59d3b5.jpg
I ditched the Bassani and picked up a CT pipe. Next step is restoration of the CT pipe.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161228/ef7a67ab6d91dd3400059a72d2b28caa.jpg
I knew you couldn't stay away! That's a sharp kx too
I knew you couldn't stay away! That's a sharp kx too
I feel like Michael Corleone. "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
Now that my house is 90% done, I'll slowly get back into messing with the 250r. This home renovation put me in a dark place toy wise. I didn't want to look at a wheeler, let alone work on one. I have a ton of small things still left to do on it, so now I just like to sit around the garage and play dress up with it since I don't race anymore. Maybe one day I'll throw the paddles on it and make it out west for a dune trip???????
That's the KX that will eventually get the KDX Transmission. I put all new plastic and decals on it, new Gnarly pipe, new take off oem silencer, and a bunch of other little oem hardware things. I have to fix the kicker spring and actually ride it next.
yaegerb
12-30-2016, 10:36 AM
I feel like Michael Corleone. "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
Now that my house is 90% done, I'll slowly get back into messing with the 250r. This home renovation put me in a dark place toy wise. I didn't want to look at a wheeler, let alone work on one. I have a ton of small things still left to do on it, so now I just like to sit around the garage and play dress up with it since I don't race anymore. Maybe one day I'll throw the paddles on it and make it out west for a dune trip???????
That's the KX that will eventually get the KDX Transmission. I put all new plastic and decals on it, new Gnarly pipe, new take off oem silencer, and a bunch of other little oem hardware things. I have to fix the kicker spring and actually ride it next.
I am getting some guys together for an LSOK trip around April/May, you should come with us!
I am getting some guys together for an LSOK trip around April/May, you should come with us!
I have a better chance of winning the lottery, and I don't play the lottery.
I probably have a better chance planning far in advance for the Invasion in 18 or 19. Little Sahara will always carry the stigma of me getting messed up there 18 years ago and my wife just can't get that out of her brain.
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You know any dunes are good dunes .........so i took what i could get..........and den and den she (Glamis) looked at me with her big brown eye`s and said .........YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN YET !!!! ......we got spots for bofa you arse !
BTK approves of the BTO reference!
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I contacted Allen Knowles and found out this is not a CT pipe like first thought, but rather a Bills sectional. Comfirmed by old school racer and friend/former employee of Bills, Randy Scott, via Facebook. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161231/847a2165ec5861e8e295efaeb29f737f.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161231/6dd9d4ebd52dbf4eb9ee185b05c83cd6.jpg
El Camexican
12-31-2016, 02:04 PM
BTK approves of the BTO reference!
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Enough about the boys from Winnipeg and Glamy's musical interludes, time for you to get back to "takin care of business"
The pipe has two little dents on the bottom that I'm going to send to yeagerbmotorsports to have removed. I need to make a jig for the swingarm so I can replace the pivot tubes. They're both cracked and need to be cut out and new ones welded in.
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El Camexican
12-31-2016, 02:45 PM
Sounds like Yeager is going to be "taking care of business" for you
El Camexican
12-31-2016, 02:47 PM
Can't wait till this is all done and buttoned up. I feel that we "ain't seen nothin yet"
Once it's finished I'm just going to "let it ride".
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yaegerb
12-31-2016, 04:32 PM
You know any dunes are good dunes .........so i took what i could get..........and den and den she (Glamis) looked at me with her big brown eye`s and said .........YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN YET !!!! ......we got spots for bofa you arse !
Brian, get the trailer ready, lets go!
yaegerb
12-31-2016, 04:33 PM
The pipe has two little dents on the bottom that I'm going to send to yeagerbmotorsports to have removed. I need to make a jig for the swingarm so I can replace the pivot tubes. They're both cracked and need to be cut out and new ones welded in.
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Send er' over. Fatasse racing will take care of you! Love me some oldskool bills.
So I sent the pictures of this pipe to Rob Selvy a couple of days ago and he says that it is one of his Sonic II pipes. He spotted it right off. What are the chances of finding this pipe on Ebay to match the Selvys cylinder? The seller and I for that matter had no clue and here I just wanted a sectional pipe and ended up with a Sonic II.
Mr. Clean
01-01-2017, 05:30 PM
I was going to say I think it's a selvys. I ended up selling one to Tim Keister, and thought it was a CT. There are pics of it in his "Danny and Arnold" build thread.
I was going to say I think it's a selvys. I ended up selling one to Tim Keister, and thought it was a CT. There are pics of it in his "Danny and Arnold" build thread.
I saw that and sent him a message to see if he had any pics to compare it to, but haven't heard back. Honestly I forgot I sent them to Rob, so it was a pretty good start to the New Year for me to get his message today.
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