Ive got a monster.. now what? 200x w 650 4cyl

[OldNo437]

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/forwhalein/650ex_zps0bp1irev.jpg

so its an old build, needs some refreshing, and retweaking, needs a little bit of everything. main points needing attention are suspension and exhaust. its got car exhaust pipes run under the oil pan for protection. I want to do a dual exhaust in stock location, and mirror that on the other side. I'm thinking, something around a 350x. since a 350x has twin exhaust ports, anyone done a 350x true dual? I think that would be a good place to start. secondly what would be a good diameter for the exhaust? the smallest diameter i can find is 1.25 and 1.5. my thought was use a conduit bender to make my own bends, but I'm going to see if I can adapt some other exhaust pipe first, then see what there is for custom options. any input would help. I'm also going to have to make an air box, as there never was one. its tight to say the least, but thinking i can use exhaust tubing, for the intake too. but get there soon. right now just focusing on the exhaust...

[dustrunner]

HI, That chasis was not designed for that heavy of a powerplant. I would pull that boat anchor out and find a 200 engine... a stock 200x will out handle you all day long. just my .02 $

[OldNo437]

well it survived 15 years of abuse, so I beg to differ, no signs of frame cracks, so I'd say it did okay..

[christph]

Why so small an engine? Put a V-8 in it.

[whyat]

Do you ever have problems with clearance?

[loganm]

I would honestly just part it out if it were me. Not really usable off-road without significant frame and suspension work. Really only good for straight lines as is

[OldNo437]

I've got my R for all around fun, I got it cause it was cheap, I agree its not going to be very trail friendly, but, I think it might be fun to see if I can make it trail friendly, a good challenge, and yes it scrapes, clearance sucks! I think its a flat, go fast kinda terrain kinda thing as is, might be good for the sand, dunno.. Going to see how it does with some good tires (20-22's) its already been lifted in the front about 3" frankly its one of those things thats never going to be perfect, or good at anything, accept acceleration, so, call it what it is, beat the snot out of it, and have some fun trying to keep it under control, thats fun enough for me lol....

[Ghostv2]

It was cheap, it'll be more work putting it back to original than it's worth. Beat the snot out of it and have fun doing it. You'll get your money's worth in smiles and miles. When you send a rock through the bottom cases then you can figure out if you wanna swap it lol.

[oscarmayer]

talk to Onformula1 (Milner Brown) about suspension.

[oldskool83]

part it out

[plevib]

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/forwhalein/650ex_zps0bp1irev.jpg

so its an old build, needs some refreshing, and retweaking, needs a little bit of everything. main points needing attention are suspension and exhaust. its got car exhaust pipes run under the oil pan for protection. I want to do a dual exhaust in stock location, and mirror that on the other side. I'm thinking, something around a 350x. since a 350x has twin exhaust ports, anyone done a 350x true dual? I think that would be a good place to start. secondly what would be a good diameter for the exhaust? the smallest diameter i can find is 1.25 and 1.5. my thought was use a conduit bender to make my own bends, but I'm going to see if I can adapt some other exhaust pipe first, then see what there is for custom options. any input would help. I'm also going to have to make an air box, as there never was one. its tight to say the least, but thinking i can use exhaust tubing, for the intake too. but get there soon. right now just focusing on the exhaust...

That's sad and great at the same time haha. ... well you will certainly have to build your own exhaust, but I really really doubt you will be able to put it in the stock location. Build some zoomies! :D turn them out to the side like big 2 stroke drag pipes! I would think 1.25 would work fine. You could also put bigger tires on to increase clearance, like 25s. And I agree that you should ride the snot out of it! :D someone already kinda wrecked it so might as well suck as much fun out of it as possible!

[yaegerb]

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/forwhalein/650ex_zps0bp1irev.jpg

so its an old build, needs some refreshing, and retweaking, needs a little bit of everything. main points needing attention are suspension and exhaust. its got car exhaust pipes run under the oil pan for protection. I want to do a dual exhaust in stock location, and mirror that on the other side. I'm thinking, something around a 350x. since a 350x has twin exhaust ports, anyone done a 350x true dual? I think that would be a good place to start. secondly what would be a good diameter for the exhaust? the smallest diameter i can find is 1.25 and 1.5. my thought was use a conduit bender to make my own bends, but I'm going to see if I can adapt some other exhaust pipe first, then see what there is for custom options. any input would help. I'm also going to have to make an air box, as there never was one. its tight to say the least, but thinking i can use exhaust tubing, for the intake too. but get there soon. right now just focusing on the exhaust...


I will be surprised if you do anything with it.

Most guys show the creations they bought or built in one thread with dreams and aspirations of straight line dragging or racing. Then after about a month of trying to mess with it they give up and the thread is never to be heard from again.

Shock us all, get out there and do something with it and then post a video.

Oh and BTW, first order of business would be to get rid of those 200x forks and whatever the hell they did to extend them in the triple.

[RUNMEDOWN]

first order of business would be to get rid of those 200x forks and whatever the hell they did to extend them in the triple.
Holy God I did not even see the fork set up in the clamps, that is awesome. Top nut goes loose and all steering is gone. Great setup!

[OldNo437]

I will be surprised if you do anything with it.

Most guys show the creations they bought or built in one thread with dreams and aspirations of straight line dragging or racing. Then after about a month of trying to mess with it they give up and the thread is never to be heard from again.

Shock us all, get out there and do something with it and then post a video.

Oh and BTW, first order of business would be to get rid of those 200x forks and whatever the hell they did to extend them in the triple.

I'd say, most people who work on crap like this, after reading 20 posts of "its never going to work" and 1 post actually answering a question, usually say f it and find info somewhere else.. ive been on this forum for about 10 years, because between google, and winging it, I've got by just fine, I really don't care if I fix it, blow it up, or sell it, ive never built anything for anyone else, just me, and when ever i get around to it.. I will lol.. after 5 years of getting my other one how I like it (mostly) its time to dicker with something new.. truth be told what i wanted to build was a 350x with a 650l single, but this wreck popped up, so, what the hell.. lol

[redsox]

gotta take the good with the bad brotha! If nothing else, this site tells you how it feels. i wonder what kind of feedback you were expecting. That thing is outside the box, and she's got flaws. expecting to post it out there and to have people ignore the obvious is unrealistic. One of my big verbal crutches is "It is what it is." Well, that rig is what it is. Ride the snot out of it and call it a day. I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about exhaust angles or the airbox. :beer

[redsox]

I know right .......describe it with IMOGEE`S ....

Or i could use lyrics!! He never did win no checked flags but he never did come in last....

[OldNo437]

well after much careful consideration, i have decided smarten up, and do nothing with this, except maybe send it through the shredder..

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/forwhalein/smiley_zpsktl434pg.gif

weee that was fun.. sofar ive got extended length 39mm forks 85 250r tree waiting to be installed, suzuki ltr450 swinger to be sqeezed in, and am going to tuck the engine closer to the backbone.. to hopefully take care of the ground clearance issue.. ill start a build thread once i recover from this pesky collar bone surgery...

[DohcBikes]

I miss barnett468

[fabiodriven]

How do you extend fork tubes? I'm dying to see this.

Let's not forget about the turbo installation!

[OldNo437]

never heard of a fork stretcher?, i keep it in a cabinet with my board bender, smoke shifter, and skyline, for such emergencies.. lol.. excuse my poor choice of words oh wise trike gods.. LONGER forks lol and by the way, theres all sorts of lengths of 39mm fork tubes because some Harley's which are commonly chopped etc share the same size fork.. will they work in a honda.. hopefully won't have to find out as there expensive.. (at least for this po-boy) so just playing the waiting game at this point need to assemble and weigh, as it looks like im going to have custom springs made, but thankfully they're about the same price as off the shelf ones. so at this point, need to see what spring rates go with what weights, and hopefully pick out a decent spring rate. learning as i go about this custom crap, as no one seems offer any tech help here.. as far as the turbo, why not? there sitting at about 9:1 compression, not ideal for boost, but seeing as these motors are a dime a dozen, its worth fuggering around with, either way its getting a 4-1 header, why not make it a log manifold w/ turbo flange? and those chinese turbos on ebay are cheap. not the greatest, but worth a look. I think its very possible to hit 80-100hp with some proper planning.. either na or forced, the turbo idea, I think is more a visual thing than anything else, biggest problem with that is carb tuning, since were aiming for the sky, lets throw a megasquirt efi at it too.. ooh and a blinky light, anyone know how to make a blinky light module? lol well off i go, time to warm up the fork stretcher... :P

[yaegerb]

i cant decide what's creepier...that animated gif or this trike. I like the shredder idea!

[Jd110]

My hats off to you for what you want to do. These guys can be real helpful to ones that stop by here that can handle the nay-sayers and the occasional criticism. Happy Labor Day weekend-don't work to hard on that beast.

[OldNo437]

i cant decide what's creepier...that animated gif or this trike. I like the shredder idea!
definitely the gif.. crusty, crappy, cobbled would be some good c words to describe it in its current state... you'll see!!!!! ima gonna build the bestest fastest mind bending 9 sec 3 wheeler that has ever been built.. I'm taking my tools and going home! humff x( lol

[DohcBikes]

I can't tell if you're serious anymore. 9 second quarter, git er done

[OldNo437]

well lets see. um sometimes serious, sometimes just making fun.. the fun part is trying to tell which is which.. :wondering seeing as 3 wheels are not allowed on any nhra sanctioned track, (I've asked lol) I suppose that would answer the question.. next engineering quandary, linked or not rear shock, I'll report some probably useless factoid in a day or two

[DohcBikes]

seeing as 3 wheels are not allowed on any nhra sanctioned track, (I've asked lol)I don't know who you asked but they are full of shlt.

[OldNo437]

tech at the local dragway.. but, as long as there isn't a measurement of how far apart the wheels have to be, i have a plan lol