200x

[AK47KID]

Going to look at a 200x. It's the original owner, never been crashed, low hours, been ridden a couple times, plastics are superb has bassani pipe. All it apparently needs is a carb clean, plug, oil change and air filter. It has original tires even. I'll give an update if I buy it or not

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[plevib]

Pictures either way please! Hopefully you get to snatch it up!

[AK47KID]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/e400c66387a75043802d383c89efeda0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/ee6f454015dedb162f8527c3de530988.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/5dc4bac92600ad7d4f05ebb67b342aca.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/6cedca9984f086d6f1a44757326036ce.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/7713e557d0a702b396650d2993e79cde.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/01a57f9641aacb0b804ce4d997eb180b.jpg

[AK47KID]

I bought it. $700. Needs grease in the front and rear axles. Needs carb clean and a few other tune up things and should be ride ready

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[AK47KID]

Even came with the tool box thing. And I think all original tools

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[plevib]

Nice buy! I'm jealous

[DohcBikes]

Damn kid, that's a really nice find. PLEASE take care of it.

[AK47KID]

Damn kid, that's a really nice find. PLEASE take care of it.
Yes sir already made peace with my self to take care of it

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[DohcBikes]

First thing id do is get maier plastics and store the originals. I'd also probably redo a not so nice seat and store the original seat too.

Or, since it looks like a GREAT candidate, restore it and never ride it.

[AK47KID]

First thing id do is get maier plastics and store the originals.
One piece at a time if I have the money to do it. The tank is in need of a little restore.

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[AK47KID]

I plan on pressure washing it tomorrow. Get rid of the mildew

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[AK47KID]

Are the front forks oil or air?

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[DohcBikes]

The forks are metal.

[Mackus84]

Oil... automatic transmission fluid actually. At least thats what Honda tells us to put in em in the manual.

[AK47KID]

The forks are metal.
Smart-ass

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[DohcBikes]

The air valves are for adding very small amounts of air to tune the ride or used as air bleeds. Personally I only ever use them for bleeding off air that builds up. Never use a compressor to add air unless it is regulated to about 10 psi. A bicycle pump is a safer option. If they dont have caps on them, install some.

[Mackus84]

^^^^ what he said. I used a bicycle pump and gave it a tiny little push and it stiffened them up considerably. It doesnt take much. Im a bigger guy so i wanted them with a little less give

[AK47KID]

It has the original caps

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[DohcBikes]

It has the original caps

Sent from my SM-G935V using TapatalkI noticed after mentioning. That bike has been ridden AND taken very well care of. Very very rare to find a 200x that complete. Not to mention you stole it at 700. I am jealous.

[AK47KID]

I noticed after mentioning. That bike has been ridden AND taken very well care of. Very very rare to find a 200x that complete. Not to mention you stole it at 700. I am jealous.
Hold your horses for now, who knows if it needs engine work. I'm going to start cleaning the carb tonight.

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[DohcBikes]

Exactly how many days does it take you to clean a carb?

Taking it apart already, oh boy!

Yeah I don't mind a little engine work. I learned everything I know on the internet!!

Slow and steady.

[SamT]

First thing id do is get maier plastics and store the originals. I'd also probably redo a not so nice seat and store the original seat too.

Or, since it looks like a GREAT candidate, restore it and never ride it.

I wouldn't even think about containing myself. I'd have a dent in the tank and the plastics cracked within a week! Probably my tail bone also.

[AK47KID]

Exactly how many days does it take you to clean a carb?

Taking it apart already, oh boy!

Yeah I don't mind a little engine work. I learned everything I know on the internet!!

Slow and steady.
All I do is spray some kind of cleaning solvent and use and air compressor. Spray them down wait an hour or so and spray compressed air through them.

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[86125m]

It does look great I would clean and polish everything and ride it not hard mind you its to nice to abuse.

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[AK47KID]

Whoo hoo, got it to start. Revved it up and OMG it sounds mean like a 450. Apparently it's not a bassani http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/274627c230255144b97d8420104c193c.jpg

Carb clean http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/245cabd971c178b49de4f2087b107509.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/d53fbb6050b020d1cede7073dc324a44.jpg well acceptably clean

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[DohcBikes]

That carb is NOT NOT NOT acceptably clean.

Great news though. Glad it started.

The coffmans pipes are rare.

Don't forget to change your oil.

[oldskool83]

That is not a clean carb....thats a half assed attempted at a kid cleaning a carb not knowing WTF he is doing.

Soak the carb in pinesolve for 30 mins to an 3 hours. It will eat everything off it and it will cost you $5. I do this with all my carbs...much longer it will eat the metal. Do no soak your slide or anything made from carbon steal. It will rust it with in about 5 mins.

Rinse off in hot water with dish soap, let dry and install few hours or next day later. You will want a new carb seal also. That one is just too old anymore and if you pull it out it will not seal correctly again.

Soak the brass jets and aluminum only, nothing else. Rest just use carb clearner and compressed air. Also once its back together never let it sit with gas in in the bowls. Drain it out and always run fuel cleaner in every tank. Gas goes bad after 2 weeks now days. Installed a fuel filter also...I sell them down to 150 microns. Use clear fuel lines and you should be golden.

Follow my directions and you will be fine. Do not follow them and well then I give no meows what happens.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/401080867868?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121942441009?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Trust me...been doing this for 26 years.......

[AK47KID]

That is not a clean carb....thats a half assed attempted at a kid cleaning a carb not knowing WTF he is doing.

Soak the carb in pinesolve for 30 mins to an 3 hours. It will eat everything off it and it will cost you $5. I do this with all my carbs...much longer it will eat the metal. Do no soak your slide or anything made from carbon steal. It will rust it with in about 5 mins.

Rinse off in hot water with dish soap, let dry and install few hours or next day later. You will want a new carb seal also. That one is just too old anymore and if you pull it out it will not seal correctly again.

Soak the brass jets and aluminum only, nothing else. Rest just use carb clearner and compressed air. Also once its back together never let it sit with gas in in the bowls. Drain it out and always run fuel cleaner in every tank. Gas goes bad after 2 weeks now days. Installed a fuel filter also...I sell them down to 150 microns. Use clear fuel lines and you should be golden.

Follow my directions and you will be fine. Do not follow them and well then I give no F*cks what happens.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/401080867868?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121942441009?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Trust me...been doing this for 26 years.......
The bowl is the only part that looks like that. Everything else I used compressed air and carb cleaner and a paperclip.i can see through the other sides of the Jets when I look through them. Where can I get pinesolve? My Walmart doesn't Have it (Imagine that)

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[DohcBikes]

Pine Sol.

That dirty bowl will cause problems eventually. Git er clean.

[Scootertrash]

Pine-sol maybe?

knowbuddy prufe reeds there posts nowadayz. Reeleyeing on ottocorrekt to speel everthing for them.


ETA: Beet buy a minnet

[JesseA420]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/d53fbb6050b020d1cede7073dc324a44.jpg well acceptably clean


nope. one of those little pieces of corrosion chips off and there u have another clogged jet. you dont have to specifically use the pinesol, just use a safe solvent and get it all out.

[AK47KID]

Could I use the bowl from a spare carb that goes to a 185/200s?

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[plevib]

Maybe if it fits. But that one should clean up alright! Hey make sure you get some footage of it when you take it out riding! Some of These guys may disagree but these machines were made to ride, not be polished and admired! ;) (that'll ruffle some feathers haha) but get some footage of that thing barking! I just got a dg for my 200x build and I want to know what it'll sound like!

[AK47KID]

Maybe if it fits. But that one should clean up alright! Hey make sure you get some footage of it when you take it out riding! Some of These guys may disagree but these machines were made to ride, not be polished and admired! ;) (that'll ruffle some feathers haha) but get some footage of that thing barking! I just got a dg for my 200x build and I want to know what it'll sound like!
I plan on polishing it. This will more than likely be a sand only bike. I've got a 200 autox project that I plan on using for dirt trail ridding. Them fork tunes are just screaming to be polished. All in all it takes time and money. Like the foot pegs, they need to be sand blasted and repainted. Maybe cerakote/powder coated if I got the money. The six pack rack I want to take off and save for looks. So I'll be in the market for an after market or original grab bar. Hopefully if I can before dark clean it and post some pics. I need to get some practice on polishing.

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[AK47KID]

The front axle has NO grease. (At leased I hope it's grease and not bearings) How do I take this axle out to grease it? I've never dealt with the bolts and axle cover style before.

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[yaegerb]

The front axle has NO grease. (At leased I hope it's grease and not bearings) How do I take this axle out to grease it? I've never dealt with the bolts and axle cover style before.

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Have you downloaded a manual yet?

[AK47KID]

No, I was going to look when I had the chance

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[yaegerb]

download from the following link.

http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/

[Mackus84]

^^^^ Yaeger is right. If youre going to be working on it. You absolutely NEED the manual. Takes 2 minutes to download. Ive completely disassembled and rebuilt(almost finished) my entire 85 200X with the manual. Piece of cake. Only with some stuff not covered in the manual, i come here for help. And alot of these guys are awesome and a huuuge help. I havent NOT gotten a solution to every issue ive come across to date. Just follow all the instructions closely and youll be in good shape. And honestly, if youre taking out the axle and doing all that good stuff. Why not replace all the bearings and seals. Theyre cheap. I used All Balls for every bearing in my bike. The front axle ones were like 20 some odd dollars. If that.
PS. When getting the axle out of the front hub. Dont mar up the threads!!!!!! I put the nut flush with the end and got mine out that way. And mine was a complete and total basket case when i got her. And shes coming along nicely:cool:
230930

[AK47KID]

That is not a clean carb....thats a half assed attempted at a kid cleaning a carb not knowing WTF he is doing.

Soak the carb in pinesolve for 30 mins to an 3 hours. It will eat everything off it and it will cost you $5. I do this with all my carbs...much longer it will eat the metal. Do no soak your slide or anything made from carbon steal. It will rust it with in about 5 mins.

Rinse off in hot water with dish soap, let dry and install few hours or next day later. You will want a new carb seal also. That one is just too old anymore and if you pull it out it will not seal correctly again.

Soak the brass jets and aluminum only, nothing else. Rest just use carb clearner and compressed air. Also once its back together never let it sit with gas in in the bowls. Drain it out and always run fuel cleaner in every tank. Gas goes bad after 2 weeks now days. Installed a fuel filter also...I sell them down to 150 microns. Use clear fuel lines and you should be golden.

Follow my directions and you will be fine. Do not follow them and well then I give no F*cks what happens.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/401080867868?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121942441009?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Trust me...been doing this for 26 years.......
How do I tell what is and what's not carbon steel? My slide is stainless steel. I forgot to mention the original owner put a twist throttle on.

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[AK47KID]

I use these for filters. What's your guys' take on them? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160426/127bf29714e2d3c69e63ebfa9f611afc.jpg

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[AK47KID]

Maybe if it fits. But that one should clean up alright! Hey make sure you get some footage of it when you take it out riding! Some of These guys may disagree but these machines were made to ride, not be polished and admired! ;) (that'll ruffle some feathers haha) but get some footage of that thing barking! I just got a dg for my 200x build and I want to know what it'll sound like!
I plan on getting a video of it idling with a couple revvs then taking it for a ride with my go pro

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[oldskool83]

no carb parts are stainless steel they are all plated carbon steal but if you don't know that throw it all in and let it rust up.

[AK47KID]

no carb parts are stainless steel they are all plated carbon steal but if you don't know that throw it all in and let it rust up.
I did throw it all in, it's cleaning up nicely. Nothing is rusting. The slide is after market.

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[oldskool83]

go clean your room after your done too.

[AK47KID]

NO!!!

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[plevib]

Holy crap oldskool83 lay off!

Make it work decent and take it for a ride! :D

[oldskool83]

Why..too old to listen to stupid or read about it.

ATC 4 life nukkas

[AK47KID]

Why..too old to listen to stupid or read about it.

ATC 4 life nukkas
I take alot of advice from pretty much anyone...unless their a demacrapper liberal....

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[AK47KID]

^^^^ Yaeger is right. If youre going to be working on it. You absolutely NEED the manual. Takes 2 minutes to download. Ive completely disassembled and rebuilt(almost finished) my entire 85 200X with the manual. Piece of cake. Only with some stuff not covered in the manual, i come here for help. And alot of these guys are awesome and a huuuge help. I havent NOT gotten a solution to every issue ive come across to date. Just follow all the instructions closely and youll be in good shape. And honestly, if youre taking out the axle and doing all that good stuff. Why not replace all the bearings and seals. Theyre cheap. I used All Balls for every bearing in my bike. The front axle ones were like 20 some odd dollars. If that.
PS. When getting the axle out of the front hub. Dont mar up the threads!!!!!! I put the nut flush with the end and got mine out that way. And mine was a complete and total basket case when i got her. And shes coming along nicely:cool:
230930
I'll order bearings. Just need the money. I'll grease the bearings and axle for now and I'll replace the bearings when I get a chance.

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[83ATC185]

Maybe if it fits. But that one should clean up alright! Hey make sure you get some footage of it when you take it out riding! Some of These guys may disagree but these machines were made to ride, not be polished and admired! ;) (that'll ruffle some feathers haha) but get some footage of that thing barking! I just got a dg for my 200x build and I want to know what it'll sound like!

I've always said that, but i had rider's regret over a 200x i bought 3 years ago. Not a crack or chip in any plastic or the seat decals intact minus 1 scratch on the one by the kicker, skidplates and sprocket cover intact, 100% complete, only thing not original was the chinese carb, and tires. Which was in a box with a rebuild kit.

I wish now I'd thrown together a beater and left that one alone.

[DohcBikes]

^^^^^^What he said.

Starting to wish someone else found it. Got a bad feeling another very nice survivor will be lost. Hope I'm wrong.

[Scootertrash]

go clean your room after your done too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRedUF0SAGg

Pull the petcock, not YOUR pet cock, THE petcock on the tank, and clean that filter. I don't have any extra filters on my trikes. That doesn't mean you can't run one, it just means I usually don't and haven't had any problems. I also use a dremel and some tiny wire brushes to clean stubbornly dirty carb bowls. ;)

[El Camexican]

You absolutely NEED the manual. Takes 2 minutes to download. Ive completely disassembled and rebuilt(almost finished) my entire 85 200X with the manual.

230934

Looks like you had the manual upside down.

[AK47KID]

I already made peace with my self that I was going to take care of it. Jeez are you guys jealous?...

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[AK47KID]

Just printed the manual for the 200x and put it in a binder.

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[AK47KID]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRedUF0SAGg

Pull the petcock, not YOUR pet cock, THE petcock on the tank, and clean that filter. I don't have any extra filters on my trikes. That doesn't mean you can't run one, it just means I usually don't and haven't had any problems. I also use a dremel and some tiny wire brushes to clean stubbornly dirty carb bowls. ;)
I'm gunna have to. It's gummed up. When it's on reserve gas won't come out but when it's "on" gas will come out.

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[Scootertrash]

Be gentle. All the years of sitting in fuel they can swell and distort a bit. Pull it out like yer puttin it in. If you get my drift. ;) :naughty:

[AK47KID]

Be gentle. All the years of sitting in fuel they can swell and distort a bit. Pull it out like yer puttin it in. If you get my drift. ;) :naughty:
Ya... I get your drift...

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[plevib]

Yes. Yes we are jealous haha

[Mackus84]

230934

Looks like you had the manual upside down.

Haha.. Idk why the hell my phone does that on here. You hae to click all the way into it for it to flip over

[El Camexican]

Haha.. Idk why the hell my phone does that on here. You hae to click all the way into it for it to flip over

LOL! I get that too. Seems I need to open them, turn them and save them to get them right. I don't get my phone. One day I will see a UFO over my house and end up with 10 photos of my thumb to prove it.

BTW AK, I think your trike is SWEET! Do whatever you want with it, it's yours:beer

[DohcBikes]

It depends on the orientation of your phone when you take the pic. Turn 90° clockwise, they often show up in the thumbnail upside down but flip when clicked. Turn 90° counterclockwise it'll be right side up. Also can happen when taking pictures from directly above.

[AK47KID]

Quick question, how do I bleed the front brake caliper?

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[DohcBikes]

Quick answer.

Use the search function.

[AK47KID]

I did. BTW it wasn't the axle, it was the brake caliper not disengaging (AKA froze up)

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[AK47KID]

https://vimeo.com/

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[AK47KID]

https://vimeo.com/164375740

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[briano]

Quick question, how do I bleed the front brake caliper?

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Check in the manual. Clean that carb. Why ask who will win a race between you and your brother? Go do it and find out. Some things get done much quicker in real life than running to the Internet for answers. I don't know what in the hell some of you kids would have done even 20 years ago.

[83ATC185]

Well i use a gear lube pump with a yamaha adapter similar to the one shown in the link to fill the system. The fitting threads into the bleeder screw and the pump threads onto a bottle of brake fluid, easy no mess at all... Remove cap from master cylinder, drain all old fluid and flush, use pump in a bottle of brake fluid to fill caliper, lines and master from the caliper up.Then hang the caliper as high as possible and bleed the brake as you would any other brakes and top off the reservoir.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Attwood-Gear-Lube-Pump/16351021?reviews_limit=10&

[AK47KID]

Check in the manual. Clean that carb. Why ask who will win a race between you and your brother? Go do it and find out. Some things get done much quicker in real life than running to the Internet for answers. I don't know what in the hell some of you kids would have done even 20 years ago.
Your new...carb is clean, obviously you didn't watch the video of it running. BTW THAT IS WHAT THE "THIS VS THAT" FORUM IT FOR. Same thing as like asking what would win in a race, 450r vs banshee vs 250r ..... you gunna act like a turkey struttin tryin to look good or carry on and not make comments to throw my thread in the shitter?

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[AK47KID]

Your new...carb is clean, obviously you didn't watch the video of it running. BTW THAT IS WHAT THE "THIS VS THAT" FORUM IT FOR. Same thing as like asking what would win in a race, 450r vs banshee vs 250r ..... you gunna act like a turkey struttin tryin to look good or carry on and not make comments to throw my thread in the shitter?

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Oh and the gravel road is 300 miles from where I live. That's why I asked, AND everybody could get to bet on who'd win

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[RUNMEDOWN]

Quick Q, I have never seen a Bassani with that cross in the back (Across the hole) up close does it look like the PO did it or came that way?

[AK47KID]

The PO said it was a bassani...after I took it home and took the rear fenders off to look at it, it's a coffman. The " original previous owner " was an older lady. Probably in her 50's... she said she bought it off the dealer in California but more like her husband did(at leased that's what I think). The CL AD said it had an "custom pipe" should've said "aftermarket" here's a screen shot of the add http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160427/86b728f3e3d92ea40c4f9cf3136a65e0.jpg

You know if this had pics it would've been gone with in a day or so. But with out pics and the condition the PO described about it you'd think it was a pile of crap.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160427/57ab8d2ecc17a12a091e1cac6c46855d.jpg

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[AK47KID]

The kill switch doesn't do its job. I'm thinking of it sitting for 5+ years water corroded the switch.

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[plevib]

I've got a nice pretty switch for you

230958

230959

Pm me if you're interested

[AK47KID]

I've got a nice pretty switch for you

230958

230959

Pm me if you're interested
Tempting...let me look and see if I can't repair it first

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[AK47KID]

Okay, I've bled the lines of air. But I'm not getting any pressure.

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[Mackus84]

Ill go out on a limb and say the piston on the caliper is frozen. You said it was stuck with the front brake grabbing. So the piston was all the way extended. In the elements, dirt water all that good stuff. Its gonna have to come apart

[AK47KID]

Ill go out on a limb and say the piston on the caliper is frozen. You said it was stuck with the front brake grabbing. So the piston was all the way extended. In the elements, dirt water all that good stuff. Its gonna have to come apart
I don't think it's frozen. With out the bleed nipped in the brake caliper I push the brake handle and the oil comes out. When I put the bleed nipple back in the caliper with out the rubber cap oil won't come out. I'm definitely doing something wrong. I've never felt with hydraulic brakes

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[Mackus84]

Pump brakes, hold, open bleeder. Close bleeder. Release lever. And make sure u dont run out of fluid while doing it. Keep the lid off the master and keep the level up. And only the right brake fluid. Manual says dot 4 i think. I used dot 3. No issues

[Mackus84]

And u dont take the bleeder all the way out when u do it. Just crack it, then snug it up

[Mackus84]

With mine, i took the caliper off the bracket, and held it in the air like head level and it pumped it. That helped push the air out more than anything i did. Oh and btw, if your caliper piston in frozen, then it will still bleed it out, but the piston will not move in the caliper, and it will not squeeze the pads on the rotor

[AK47KID]

The front and rear calips are shitttyshottedjunkedoutthedoorgonerustedtoshiot. Looks like I'm in the market for new ones are there any new calips I can use from this century on the 200x? Or am I screwed to get used 200x calipers?

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[AK47KID]

The front one is rusted so bad heat and wd40 couldn't break it loose

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[AK47KID]

Any one have a set that don't need rebuilt. Maybe I can trade you my pair that need rebuilt for a pair you have that don't need rebuilt and I can pay like $20-30 to even out the trade?

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[Scootertrash]

The front and rear calips are shitttyshottedjunkedoutthedoorgonerustedtoshiot. Looks like I'm in the market for new ones are there any new calips I can use from this century on the 200x? Or am I screwed to get used 200x calipers?


Tried the search function yet?

[Mackus84]

The front and rear calips are shitttyshottedjunkedoutthedoorgonerustedtoshiot. Looks like I'm in the market for new ones are there any new calips I can use from this century on the 200x? Or am I screwed to get used 200x calipers?

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Pretty much any mid 80's to like 2003 Honda Cr80 FRONT caliper works on the REAR. I am using a 1995. And I am using a 1998 Kawasaki KX80 REAR caliper on the FRONT. Im sure other years will work. This is a direct bolt on swap. The only thing you need to do is use the original 200X brackets for both calipers and they mount up with no modifications.
Heres the Cr80 front on the back of the 200X 230977
And the KX rear on the FRONT 230978
I got complete brake setups on ebay, master cylinders, calipers and all for front and back for less than $50. They are plentiful. You will lose your parking brake though as the Cr80 obviosly doesnt have one.

[Mackus84]

Tried the search function yet?

Haha i was gonna be a smartass and say the same thing, but figured I'd take the 45 seconds and help the kid out. Hey kid, like he said^^^^. Have you tried the google search function.? Theres at least 5 or more threads on this site about brake caliper swaps, just google it and they pop up

[oldskool83]

Rebuilding calipers is easy. Air compressor 10mm bolt in the banjo hole. WD40 entire thing let sit 24 hours, drain out and blaster bleeder hole with 100PSI from air compressor.....pop goes the piston. You need $15 rebuild kit, and $10 for new pads...good for another 20 years. You can even buy new pistons and most times they are fine. Just get stuck from sitting so long.

Not hard to do. I've rebuild stuff people said you can't...why because being stubborn and stupid is the easiest way to spend extra money you don't need to.

Wanna know something else...I am not cool, I know nothing related to 200x's. I'm a 5ft 6" southern asshole from Virginia who almost went to jail. Go chew on that all mighty know it all, next time people offer advise it's for the greater good.

remember...we are the youth of the nation.

age 32 and give no f*cks...........

[DohcBikes]

I highly recommend the Kid use a grease gun instead of compressed air to push the piston out. All I see are a couple mashed black and blue or shortened fingers if he uses air.

Kid. Slow down. You are not a skilled mechanic. Because of this, you need to listen to others and take heed.

If you do the caliper swap, save your old stuff. It is original to the bike.

R.I.P. another clean 85 200x made it 30 yrs then showed up here. Could have cleaned and polished and made a grand on it.

[Scootertrash]

Haha i was gonna be a smartass and say the same thing, but figured I'd take the 45 seconds and help the kid out. Hey kid, like he said^^^^. Have you tried the google search function.? Theres at least 5 or more threads on this site about brake caliper swaps, just google it and they pop up

Not the google search function, the 3WW forum search function. Upper left of the Trikesylvania forum (and every other forum on 3WW).

And, for the umpteenth time by me and many others: The manual will tell you all you need to know. Using the manual and the forum search function will solve 99.9% of the questions.

[Mackus84]

Not the google search function, the 3WW forum search function. Upper left of the Trikesylvania forum (and every other forum on 3WW).

And, for the umpteenth time by me and many others: The manual will tell you all you need to know. Using the manual and the forum search function will solve 99.9% of the questions.

Yes, i am aware of the 3ww search function. But it can be a pain in the ass on the site to find what youre looking for. So i just google it and the correct 3WW posts always pop up

[AK47KID]

Hex bolt is stripped. I've never used tapped before so I'm going to see if my.local bike shop can rebuild it.

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[AK47KID]

I highly recommend the Kid use a grease gun instead of compressed air to push the piston out. All I see are a couple mashed black and blue or shortened fingers if he uses air.

Kid. Slow down. You are not a skilled mechanic. Because of this, you need to listen to others and take heed.

If you do the caliper swap, save your old stuff. It is original to the bike.

R.I.P. another clean 85 200x made it 30 yrs then showed up here. Could have cleaned and polished and made a grand on it.
When have I not taken advice? I know I'm not a skilled Mechanic... Maybe some day though. I'll try the grease gun...

I highly recommend the Kid use a grease gun instead of compressed air to push the piston out. All I see are a couple mashed black and blue or shortened fingers if he uses air.

Kid. Slow down. You are not a skilled mechanic. Because of this, you need to listen to others and take heed.

If you do the caliper swap, save your old stuff. It is original to the bike.

R.I.P. another clean 85 200x made it 30 yrs then showed up here. Could have cleaned and polished and made a grand on it.


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[oldskool83]

I'm not helping you anymore. You know everything and buy awesome bikes. Fix it up and mess it up at the same time. Youth Rules.

[83ATC185]

Why is everyone acting like he is going to trash that bike? So what if he wants to ride it? I do regret riding mine, no doubt, but I'm not going to tell anybody else what they can and can't do with theirs.

Fix it up, ride it, enjoy it however you see fit. Riding a clean 30 year old machine is some fun!
Just know that one day you may wish you hadn't.

231000 231001

[oldskool83]

yep..........................

[yaegerb]

here's how I see it. Everyone has to start somewhere. I started wrenching at 9 and I stripped every bolt I had on my quadsport. So what if he screws stuff up? Why do you guys care? Last time I checked the 200x's had pretty high production numbers and there is enough for everyone.


Let him learn from his mistakes. There will be errors no doubt but let him have HIS experience.

[oldskool83]

That's cool, then he should stop making threads about stuff like 4 pages on cleaning a carb bowl that's dirty. BTW I speak Spanish loco blanco pollo

[86125m]

One thing from me the last time I checked these bikes were built to ride. Not sit in someones museum. Another thing just because someone rides a bike does not necessarily mean their going to mess it up its all in the way the bike is ridden and where. I have found that the worst thing you can do to a bike is let it sit.

[AK47KID]

I'm not helping you anymore. You know everything and buy awesome bikes. Fix it up and mess it up at the same time. Youth Rules.
That's fine with me. Pinesol worked for cleaning the carb. Think I did pretty good considering its the first time I REALLY cleaned one out

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[AK47KID]

It's funny how everyone thinks I'm going to thrash it. I guarantee by the time I die I'll still have it and it WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THIS http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/908f725e1e3d15dd8e978075693c8fd4.jpg

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[AK47KID]

Why is everyone acting like he is going to trash that bike? So what if he wants to ride it? I do regret riding mine, no doubt, but I'm not going to tell anybody else what they can and can't do with theirs.

Fix it up, ride it, enjoy it however you see fit. Riding a clean 30 year old machine is some fun!
Just know that one day you may wish you hadn't.

231000 231001
I'm not going to thrash it and people don't understand that apparently. Ya I'm no mechanic. But like almost everyone here you have to learn. And that's what I'm doing. I owe most of my knowledge about atv/atc vehicles to 3wheelerworld. Oldskool is acting like a 8 yearold and being immature about things I ask or do and is always trashing my threads. I don't thrash anyone else's threads. Oldskool is a parolee? Wow who knew? I meant cares!

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[AK47KID]

Oh, and oldskool I bought your blue fuel line just so you know

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[AK47KID]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/f7696f9d9e6341788328a9ec893f763a.jpg

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[oldskool83]

I figured that was you. People are eating these up. Should work out decent.

[yaegerb]

I called the bike shop, their out for 2 and a half weeks. But said they could squeeze my caliper rebuild in.

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Send your caliper to me with a rebuild kit and I will rebuild it. PM me if interested.

[AK47KID]

I figured that was you. People are eating these up. Should work out decent.
Do you make them your self?

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[JesseA420]

Do you make them your self?

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chinese made -- drop shipped probably. capitalism at its finest.

[tx200m]

231029231030
from this.....to this. It cleaned up good tho

[AK47KID]

231029231030
from this.....to this. It cleaned up good tho
God let man invent pressure washers for a reason lol

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[AK47KID]

I finally took it out for a spin. Kinda sucks with out brakes. I put my auto x front brake on my 200x and now I'm thinking it's the master cylinder that needs rebuilt too.

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[muthey]

It's funny how everyone thinks I'm going to thrash it. I guarantee by the time I die I'll still have it and it WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THIS http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/908f725e1e3d15dd8e978075693c8fd4.jpg

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I must say though in my 200x's defense the guy I purchased it from originally bought it in 100 percent condition then sold it to a friend who did this to it and when he got it back planned to restore it. however he didn't get around to doing it and sold it to me. I will have to take some new pics of it and add a vid of what my cobra exhaust sounds like. I will not replace the fenders as I intend to trail ride this bad boy frequently. have done so a couple of times with my tri-z and enjoy them both.

[AK47KID]

I must say though in my 200x's defense the guy I purchased it from originally bought it in 100 percent condition then sold it to a friend who did this to it and when he got it back planned to restore it. however he didn't get around to doing it and sold it to me. I will have to take some new pics of it and add a vid of what my cobra exhaust sounds like. I will not replace the fenders as I intend to trail ride this bad boy frequently. have done so a couple of times with my tri-z and enjoy them both.
I was using your bike as an example. I couldn't find a beat up 200x in Google search. No offense to you what so ever

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[El Camexican]

here's how I see it. Everyone has to start somewhere. I started wrenching at 9 and I stripped every bolt I had on my quadsport. So what if he screws stuff up? Why do you guys care? Last time I checked the 200x's had pretty high production numbers and there is enough for everyone.


Let him learn from his mistakes. There will be errors no doubt but let him have HIS experience.

Amen! Starting at age 9 I was a lot more proficient at taking things apart than I was at putting them together, but at some point the urge to ride overcomes the urge to disassemble to the point of destruction and you start figuring out how to assemble things.... sort of. Construction paper gaskets cut with dull scissors and 1/4" stove head bolts cross threaded into Metric holes was a thing back then.

Having an Internet forum and access to metric bolts would have been nice.

[Scootertrash]

Personally, I would rebuild the complete system. I prefer to do once and do it right the first time. The cost is well worth it and you don't lose riding time in the future because something went wrong or blew out. ;)n Not oto mention possibly getting hurt.

YMMV

[captainweezy]

I'm not helping you anymore. You know everything and buy awesome bikes. Fix it up and mess it up at the same time. Youth Rules.

When my day is boring i can always count on reading through a thread or two and finding oldstool acting like a complete and total ass or in this case a baby. My 4 year old does'nt even talk like that. Hats off to the ak47kid for putting up with his crap.

[oscarmayer]

what is the line made out of? I am looking for blue. I have been using the clear blue, bit this looks nicer.

[Dirtcrasher]

Just remove my account. I'm sick of this site. Make it happen in the next 2 hours also.

I believe you can be a bit thicker skinned then that.

I'd like to see your project get finished and a ride report.

Personally, the informative posts you make are quite helpful. You're also great at informing people of what fits what, which I myself have learned from.

Based on your posts, you claim that you could care less; So care less....

[El Camexican]

what is the line made out of? I am looking for blue. I have been using the clear blue, bit this looks nicer.

If it's the same blue stuff I tried a while back it turns to brownish blue rock in a matter of weeks once the fuel hits it.

[AK47KID]

If it's the same blue stuff I tried a while back it turns to brownish blue rock in a matter of weeks once the fuel hits it.
Hmm only time will tell

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[oscarmayer]

El,
ahh ok. well I will stick with the clear blue newer stuff then. thank you sir!

[muthey]

I'm not upset just didn't want people to think I let this machine get into this condition. also I am including a video of mine completed now the idle is a little high at the moment, but it runs great. I feel your needs to be tuned better as when you let off the throttle it shouldn't pop like it does, you can hear mine and it doesn't pop like that and the cobra and coffman ehaust are not that much different. http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/bamuth13/th_IMG_0380.mp4 (http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/bamuth13/IMG_0380.mp4)

[AK47KID]

I'm not upset just didn't want people to think I let this machine get into this condition. also I am including a video of mine completed now the idle is a little high at the moment, but it runs great. I feel your needs to be tuned better as when you let off the throttle it shouldn't pop like it does, you can hear mine and it doesn't pop like that and the cobra and coffman ehaust are not that much different.
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/bamuth13/th_IMG_0380.mp4 (http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/bamuth13/IMG_0380.mp4)
Your link isn't working.

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[muthey]

try it now it should be working

[AK47KID]

I'm not upset just didn't want people to think I let this machine get into this condition. also I am including a video of mine completed now the idle is a little high at the moment, but it runs great. I feel your needs to be tuned better as when you let off the throttle it shouldn't pop like it does, you can hear mine and it doesn't pop like that and the cobra and coffman ehaust are not that much different. http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/bamuth13/th_IMG_0380.mp4 (http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/bamuth13/IMG_0380.mp4)
Huh, we'll it's going to the local shop with in a week or so, I'll see if they can tune it up right. I'm regretting not asking the PO if it was professionally jetted for the coffman exauhst. BTW they said they could try to rebuild the brake calipers for it. But if they can't I'm shipping the calipers to you

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[muthey]

ok let me know what they do. is yours running open air box or closed? Mine is open and a full cobra exhaust on it. I had to go to a 42 pilot jet and a 125 main and now it runs perfect just a biotch to idle on a cold start, but once warmed up it purrs.

[AK47KID]

ok let me know what they do. is yours running open air box or closed? Mine is open and a full cobra exhaust on it. I had to go to a 42 pilot jet and a 125 main and now it runs perfect just a biotch to idle on a cold start, but once warmed up it purrs.
The previous owner drilled holes in the box lid to help it breath. She said that when I opened it and looked at It. There was no air cleaner it was just the cage. I been using the air cleaner from my 185 autox. I'm kicking my self in the butt for not asking if it was jetted properly. Mine is also a biotch to start but once it's warm it will only idle for about 1 minute. So I'm guessing it's tad lean and wouldn't that explain the excessive deceleration popping?

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[El Camexican]

Try opening your fuel screw a bit to see if the popcorn effect diminishes

[Jmoozy27]

Judging from the pics of the carb new jets will be in order. Sending it to a shop is going to be much more expensive then just buying new jets, filter, and tuning that baby yourself. Your looking at the following:

Uni filter $25
Pilot jet #40 $10
Main jet sizes #105, 110, 115, 120 $25
Clean the carb again and use the new jets, this time take your time to make sure the bowl is spotless. Tighten the fuel screw until it lightly seats and loosen 2 full turns. This screw is found on the bottom front of the carb bowl not on the slide that is for idle speed. I usually start with the biggest main jet and work my way down. Sending it to bike shop can get rather expensive considering the work that you want done is somewhat time consuming.

[Scootertrash]

I agree with moozy. Kid, you are perfectly capable of doing this. all it takes is patience and time. If you are going to continue to wrench on these things the art of jetting is a necessity. :beer

[Jmoozy27]

I agree with moozy. Kid you are perfectly capable of doing this. all it takes is patience and time. If you are going to continue to wrench on these things the art of jetting is a necessity. :beer

I would just hate to see the kid spend more on a mechanic than you did on the trike and lose interest. It gives you a sense of accomplishment when you knock these little thing out with your own 2 hands.

$100 bucks, elbow grease, patience, few hours of free time, and of course access to the service manual is all anyone needs to tune a trike. I think I speak for a lot of the guys when I say that I've done way more with way less. Just be patient and observe what you are doing. You'll get it.

[Jmoozy27]

FACT: Not everyone has technical mechanical skills.

Agreed, but anyone can learn how to tune a carb.

[AK47KID]

I know it just takes time and practice.

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[Scootertrash]

What a shlt show.

FACT: Not everyone has technical mechanical skills.

Yea, but you seem to manage......

[Scootertrash]

Nope, you've got me beat there. Obviously you were diagnosed long ago. Interesting how your criticisms of others always included the same behavior you're criticizing.

[AK47KID]

Im pretty easy going. Laid back is more like me when it comes to pricks like OldSkool. But don't get me wrong. Ill only take so much sh!t though...

I don't remember him driving an hour to get it, i don't remember him talking to the owner about it, I don't remember him getting handed the title for it, I don't remember him loading it on the truck, I don't remember him driving back, i don't remember him unloading it, i don't remember him pushing it into the shop... i think everyone gets my point. I have alot of sh!t happening in my life right now. And NO its not teenage drama. Its not even close to that... I could go on about whats been happening but i come here to forget about it for as long as as i can. And im pretty sure no one would care or want to read/hear about it as they have THEIR OWN trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro going on. I bought the bike for a reason (thats that sorry if your pissed about it). I was actually expecting something tore to shît and just all round pile when i looked at the add on CL. And who knows maybe it needs completly rebuilt if the PO was running lean.

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[AK47KID]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160501/8ca6d74318fc2f6f7ea5df63a2dc6a9f.jpg http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160501/cf2fe8faa37f0e7f8ab4b622fa291c10.jpg anyone use these painted chains? Im wonderin if it would be worth it buying these because of the paint they have

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[AK47KID]

I've got a nice pretty switch for you

230958

230959

Pm me if you're interested
No thanks after riddig it for about 45 minutes it started working right

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[Scootertrash]

Kid, you could still pull the switch apart and clean the oxidation off of the brass contacts with some scotchbrite or steel wool. Pretty easy job, I've done it on a couple machines. You could clean up the headlight switch as well then. :)

[Dirtcrasher]

Don't run those cheap arse colored chains!! Get a DID at the least!

Years ago I warned a buddy about them.

He adjusted it at my house, hit the track and an hour later it stretched so much it fell off and screwed his case all to hell.....

[Scootertrash]

What DC said ^

DID is the way to go.

[1979atc]

The Volar chains are not that bad, they are o ring and they last awhile. I have one on my Xr 200. I have had it for about three years now and only had to adjust the chain once.

[AK47KID]

Kid, you could still pull the switch apart and clean the oxidation off of the brass contacts with some scotchbrite or steel wool. Pretty easy job, I've done it on a couple machines. You could clean up the headlight switch as well then. :)
Ya i was thinking about doing it. I was telling the other guy that i didnt need his switch

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[AK47KID]

Alright ill look up "DID"

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[NeverLift]

I've got about 5 hours on one of those chains and its still good no adjustment needed. But I don't plan on keeping it. I'll get a DID and keep this as a back up.

[AK47KID]

I found 2 holes in the head pipe. Would that be the cause of the excessive popping? The spark plug is dark colored so it's not running lean

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[yaegerb]

I found 2 holes in the head pipe. Would that be the cause of the excessive popping? The spark plug is dark colored so it's not running lean

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Yes, likely culprit

[oscarmayer]

Yes. It will. It will suck cold are in and could very well crack your exhaust valves.
Do a compression test. If the compression is good the. Weld the holes.

One of the best chains ever made is a protaper chain. They cost good $ but will last many years w/o issues or breaking.


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[AK47KID]

Hopefully i can get it to the shop and have them do it. I dint have a compression tester. I need one though, but arent they liek $100+?

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[AK47KID]

I dont think it was sucking cold air in, i was pressure washing it while the bike was running and thats how i found out. It was spitting mists of water

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[oscarmayer]

Hopefully i can get it to the shop and have them do it. I dint have a compression tester. I need one though, but arent they liek $100+?

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No. They run around $35-45. You can also rent one from auto store.

[AK47KID]

Do they come with the threads for the spark plug hole?

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[Scootertrash]

A good kit will have multiple adapters for the various plug threads.

[oscarmayer]

yes, they do.

[AK47KID]

yes, they do.
What's a good brand?

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[oscarmayer]

Protaper is about the best.
Rental is awesome as well


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[AK47KID]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160505/71621c728abcb9ce6e689fae1ce71e92.jpg

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[AK47KID]

Is this repairable? Or should i juat go get a used one?

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[x-rider]

Looks like you need a new header.

[x-rider]

Could probably bandaid it

[AK47KID]

Eh, ill just look for a used one. Can any one tell me if this is a stock headpipe or if its a coffman head pipe?

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[x-rider]

Looks like stock. I have a spare, but I don't want to get rid of it until I get mine back together with my new dg exhaust. Keep you posted. You in Oregon?

[AK47KID]

Looks like stock. I have a spare, but I don't want to get rid of it until I get mine back together with my new dg exhaust. Keep you posted. You in Oregon?
Yes sir im in Oregon

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[x-rider]

OK , pipe will stay in Oregon. Try to bandaid for now.

[AK47KID]

OK , pipe will stay in Oregon. Try to bandaid for now.
When you think youll be done? Need this bike for this summer

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[yaegerb]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Honda-200X-Header-Head-Pipe-Exhaust-83-85-/121969841427?fits=Make%3AHonda&hash=item1c65f81513:g:XlwAAOSw1DtXIWPA

[AK47KID]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Honda-200X-Header-Head-Pipe-Exhaust-83-85-/121969841427?fits=Make%3AHonda&hash=item1c65f81513:g:XlwAAOSw1DtXIWPA
I already ebayed. Has broken heat shield bolts...im picky lol

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[yaegerb]

I already ebayed. Has broken heat shield bolts...im picky lol

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Very easy fix to get those broken studs out.

[AK47KID]

Really? I'll see if any member here has one before buying the ebay one.

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[JesseA420]

$40+ for a crustified stock headpipe with the bolts broke off?

@.@ sellers these days........

[RUNMEDOWN]

It`s criminal what they`re getting for 4-stroke pipes ! I`d get the Ba ba ba ba Basani !
That's what I have on the shelf, head pipe is a little rough. No holes yet but I am having a bear of a time finding a new bassani head pipe.

[oscarmayer]

I have a stock header. $45 shipped to you.
In good shape. No holes. I will blast and heat paint it black for you so it looks good and lasts.

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[AK47KID]

It`s criminal what they`re getting for 4-stroke pipes ! I`d get the Ba ba ba ba Basani !
I got a coffman that i would like to keep.

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[AK47KID]

See thats a real nice fair deal ! I`d find a way to take him up on it and you can reuse the muffler .....there you go ! Great offer oscar !
All i need is the stock head pipe. It shoud be a direct bolt on for my coffman pipe

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[AK47KID]

I pmd oscar... im setting up paypal, whats your guys opinion on it. Im skeptical of putting my SSID in the info...

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[Dirtcrasher]

Felt the same way 10 years ago.

Anyone can use your personal info anywhere. It's just how it is these days.

Dive in and hopefully you'll be AOK with the transactions as most of us have.

But today, the places that accept PaySkank make it so easy to just get the order done at anytime.

It suks to be ahead of other stuff your building when you needed that stuff yesterday; Paypal makes late orders that can be bought immediately, late in the day and without entering your entire life story with a credit card and the rear "magic numbers" etc etc.....

[oscarmayer]

I pmd oscar... im setting up paypal, whats your guys opinion on it. Im skeptical of putting my SSID in the info...

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never got the PM. :(
oscar@mayer.net is my paypal

yep it is real!!

[AK47KID]

never got the PM. :(
oscar@mayer.net is my paypal

yep it is real!!
Can you send me a good email to contact you? Ive used both tapatalk and the 3ww site via browser. I think my pms arent going through

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[AK47KID]

Can you send me a good email to contact you? Ive used both tapatalk and the 3ww site via browser. I think my pms arent going through

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Finally got a pm sent oscar

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[AK47KID]

Okay i did a compression test, it held @175-180 psi which is what the manual recommends. This means my valves arent cracked? And anyone wondering, im in the process of getting my pay pal set up just need to do the stupid "verification". Pretty soon I'll be able to buy and sell parts [emoji2]

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[AK47KID]

Update: got the brake working. All of them including the parking brake. Im gunna have a member here rebuild my old brakes and rear master cylinder( it needs rebuild won't even build pressure.) My shock needs to be rebuilt i would have onformula1 do it but ive never had to take a shock out so ill get around to having the local shop do it. My head pipe was cracked and i found out my uncle on my biological father side is a machinist supervisor. I didnt know that hence i dont socialise with my biological father side of family very much. Any ways hes going to patch it up for free. Ita probably not going to be pretty but oh well ill probably put a dg on it till i can find some one to fab up a coffman replica header. When i get the money im going to put a tachometer on the 200x. Get 2 or 3 inch wheel spacers. Modern tread n rims. I was thinking of holeshots (there's a knock off brand that makes them) and ITP wheels. I just pretty much need to take pieces at a time and get them powder coated to factory color. Also need to start polishing. Whats your guys' methods on polishing? My triple trees are so bad they look galvanized

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[Mackus84]

Also need to start polishing. Whats your guys' methods on polishing? My triple trees are so bad they look galvanized

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Everyone has different methods, but ill tell you how i did mine. I used sandpaper. I put some 220 on my electric sander and got all the imperfections out first. Be careful not to gouge the metal. The rest i did by hand after the 220 i went 320, then 600 (i think) then 800, up to 1500 grit. Wet sanding. Plenty of water. I just dipped the sandpaper in a bucket of water. That got them looking pretty good. I used a dremel with the little sanding drums for the tight spots. I literally made my own. I used a worn out drum and then cut out small strips and glued the necessary grit paper around it. Worked pretty good. Then for polishing i bought a cheap 20 dollar polishing kit that attached to my drill and followed the instructions on which compound did what. I believe it was tripoli first, then white rouge for final polishing. Made the m look like chrome. Took me about an hour for each top and bottom clamp. I used a few power tools, but as far as sanding, the same result can be had by hand if you dont have a power sander for the first step. Just takes a little more elbow grease. Heres my finished product
231828
And i also got some ITP wheels. Have yet to mount them, but they look very good IMO. I paid $41 each. Theyre 8x8 3+5 offset 231827
Ps: your trike started out very original, dont get rid of the original parts!!! Store them away!

[DohcBikes]

Original is out the window. As expected. Put those plastics away before you regret it.

3 bolts to remove the shock. :wondering

[AK47KID]

Original is out the window. As expected. Put those plastics away before you regret it.

3 bolts to remove the shock. :wondering
Eh, its not totally out the window. I have my autox plastic that ill probably use for tearing up the field on the 200x. I got a place in my barn to store all my atc/ytm plastics tires and spare parts. So does this thing have an oil filter like a trx450r? Im also probably gunna put off polishing for a while on the trike till i get good at it.

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[1979atc]

Eh, its not totally out the window. I have my autox plastic that ill probably use for tearing up the field on the 200x. I got a place in my barn to store all my atc/ytm plastics tires and spare parts. So does this thing have an oil filter like a trx450r? Im also probably gunna put off polishing for a while on the trike till i get good at it.

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Your 200x has a oil filter, not a filter you would think of. It is a metal screen held in by a spring on the other side of your oil drain plug. Be Careful, don't over tighten the plug while putting it back together and also make sure you have the plug started correctly while screwing it back in. It is easy to strip the threads because you are trying to smash the spring back down while putting the cap back on.

[3wheelrider]

Yeah-thats the screen. The "filter" is under the centrifical clutch cover. Its a trap of sorts that works on centrifical force. Often its never cleaned out & collect about 1/8" amount of compacted sediments that need to be scraped out. Though its almost not obvious when you see it for the first time.

[AK47KID]

Yeah-thats the screen. The "filter" is under the centrifical clutch cover. Its a trap of sorts that works on centrifical force. Often its never cleaned out & collect about 1/8" amount of compacted sediments that need to be scraped out. Though its almost not obvious when you see it for the first time.
I thought a centrifugal clutch job was to led an engine idle in gear and a manual didn't have one

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[AK47KID]

Well i knew it had the metal screen in the drain plug but want sure if it had a second one next to the oil pump

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[3wheelrider]

Oops-disregard!!! Its an X -no centrifical. Sorry for the misinfo-my bad. I just realized its not an S.
(The oil rotor/filter is there in the same place the centrifical would be tho....)

[AK47KID]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160517/9a974db6773f63c200e465638e91e860.jpg whats this thing? Oil pump? There is grease on the brake pedal because it was seized and wasnt returning when pushed down. I juat heated it up and with wd40 and hot grease it eventually freed up

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[tx200m]

Kicker shaft cover

[AK47KID]

Kicker shaft cover
Thanks.

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[AK47KID]

BORING UPDATE: CHANGED OIL IN IT. Im actually gunna ride it, change oil, ride it again, change oil. Once (if ever) get my head pipe back from the shop [emoji30]

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[AK47KID]

Finally got back from out of town. Okay so... 1: I have confirmed it is NOT STOCK...the stock head pipe that x rider sent me won't work... same problem. It just isn't the right contour and is too small. 2:I got a dg pipe brand new from my uncle. And it pops but not as bad as before

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[oscarmayer]

if your popping when riding, your tune is out. your dumping too much fuel and or the valves are out of adjustment. it could also be a possible cracked exhaust valve from cold air hitting the hot valve.

[AK47KID]

Runs fine on half choke but when off of choke it pops

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[AK47KID]

Probably too kean now

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[oscarmayer]

then your carb is having issues with stuff being plugged up or jetting is way off.

[AK47KID]

Probably wouldn't hurt to do another carb clean

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[yaegerb]

run a 112 main / 40 pilot / needle 4th clip from top.

[x-rider]

Finally got back from out of town. Okay so... 1: I have confirmed it is NOT STOCK...the stock head pipe that x rider sent me won't work... same problem. It just isn't the right contour and is too small. 2:I got a dg pipe brand new from my uncle. And it pops but not as bad as before

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That sucks. If you can't use it you can send it back or give it someone else on the board. You didn't get in trouble for the other gift by your mom? Ha.

[Mackus84]

I have a DG pipe too, airbox lid removed, and an XR carb on my X and i run a 40 pilot, and 118 main, needle in center groove and its still a little lean up top. Just to give you an idea of where you may need to be jetting wise with that pipe.

[AK47KID]

What's your elevation or does it not matter?

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[AK47KID]

That sucks. If you can't use it you can send it back or give it someone else on the board. You didn't get in trouble for the other gift by your mom? Ha.
I'll send it to you when I get the chance.

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[x-rider]

No problem kid.

[AK47KID]

Alright, I got a new complete dg pipe from my uncle. I need to rejet this SOB won't even start and if it does it will only run for a second. I'm 99.9 percent I'm running too lean. What kit assortment can I get for my 200x? I'm gunna see if this trike will run right by next week

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[AK47KID]

So the stock is 40 pilot and 110 main correct? I might as well buy new stock jets and and a couple bigger jets?

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[AK47KID]

Buy the whole set of jets ......and some extra carbs ....and change the air in your tires ......and then we can talk about it .
No

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[1979atc]

Yeah the pipe won't affect it from starting. I assume the carb got something in it. But if you are running stock jets with aftermarket pipe you need to jet your carb.

[AK47KID]

Yeah the pipe won't affect it from starting. I assume the carb got something in it. But if you are running stock jets with aftermarket pipe you need to jet your carb.
Any idea what jets I should use? It runs lean

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[YamaBoss]

Any idea what jets I should use? It runs lean

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Try one or two jets bigger then stock. No one can tell you exactly what to use, Every bike is different.

[AK47KID]

Try one or two jets bigger then stock. No one can tell you exactly what to use, Every bike is different.
Main, pilot or both?. I'm still a Virgin to jetting

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[1979atc]

I'm not saying it would work, it should at least still run half ass with a different pipe. I would say like a 42 pilot and 125 or so main. Clean the carb and stuff, heck probably get a new carb off eBay for $25. The gas these days is complete trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro if you ask me, we have a shop here in Ohio and usually he have to get new carbs for customers bikes and stuff. Sometimes it's best to do that when our Sonic tank don't do the job, which is pretty rare.

[AK47KID]

So what model is the carb? Mikini?

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[1979atc]

So what model is the carb? Mikini?

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It's should be kehin carb, but ones made by China are good replacements. A honda carb which is a kehin for a 200x will run around $80 to $100. Which isn't worth it unless you are making the bike museum quality, and to have everything original.

[1979atc]

Does your carb have the nut on the bottom of carb bowl or just the over flow tube?

[AK47KID]

Does your carb have the nut on the bottom of carb bowl or just the over flow tube?
It has both the nut and over flow tube

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[1979atc]

233016
Here ya go, this is the carb you need.

[1979atc]

233016
Here ya go, this is the carb you need.

I know it says 87/86 on the listing, but in the description it is the 1983/1987 they are the same carbs. I'm getting this exact carb for my XR.

[AK47KID]

Instead of running a 125 main I think I'm gunna buy 112, 118, 120 main and buy 42 and 45 pilots. Play with those and see. I read on a different forum that someone was running a dg pipe with 112. Main. What's y'all's opinion on that?

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[1979atc]

Sounds about right, that's all you can do at this point is play with jets and see what it does. It should still run with the pipe but it won't run crisp.

[AK47KID]

You just said it won`t start .......you don`t know jack about if it`s lean or rich ! What is the starting procedure ?
When I do get it to start the plug is lean

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[AK47KID]

When I do get it to start the plug is lean

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Never the less I need to clean my jets. They are clogged. That's the main reason why it won't.

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[ironchop]

Damn......three fukken ppl have answered you about what jet sizes to get you in the ballpark. You're still asking the same question. It's like you're going to keep asking until you get the answer you like.

Kid, I'm trying hard not to be a dick but man, you need a manual first.

1) if your jets are still clogged like you said, then you DO NOT know whether your plug is lean or not. All you know is what your plug looks like trying to run on clogged jets. That's not an accurate plug read by any stretch.

2) What size jets are in your carb? Not what jets do the manual say is in your carb but what do the actual jets have stamped on them? Never assume anything on a used machine no matter how well you trust the seller.

3) you asked if your carb was a mikuni......but you said you cleaned it. I guess you never noticed a big old "K" or "Keihin" on the side of it while cleaning it the first time. It also lists in that manual you need what kind of carb and model it is.

4) DOES NOT MATTER what ANY other 200X on the planet is running with "similar" aftermarket gear. No two machines are alike no matter how identical they look on a build sheet.

5) is the sparkplug the proper heat range?

6) your machine has to be in good running order before you can accurately"read" a plug. Starting and then dying is not going to cut it.

7) does not matter what jets you buy if the carb is still dirty. Might not be clogged jets at all but clogged passages and all the new jets on the planet won't help your carb clean itself. Carb must be CLEAN. There must be good o-ring seal on the intake and carb sides both.....no air leaks on the intake can be present.

8) a new DG pipe isn't going to flow so badass that the bike won't start on stock jetting. This is why ppl melt down stuff....because the bike did start and run for awhile until they started melting piston edges.

9) did you ever try to raise the needle (lower the clip) to see how far off you were?

10) did you do a search or ? Because jetting a 200X has been covered here 83 times in the last ten yrs I've been a member. IIRC, DirtCrasher Steve put up am awesome tutorial about jetting carbs as have quite a few other guys. You need to look that up and get familiar with the procedure. No waiting on someone else to lookup the link for you.

Next time you're trashing LoganM, remember that right now, you're doing the same thing he did, asking for advice and then ignoring it.

Jetting is not something the casual observer should be messing with if he doesn't want to do it correctly.

Point is, good luck Kid but I don't think you're ready to jet anything yet. 35 pgs of thread and you're just now getting a pipe picked out.... sorta.....your uncle picked it out for you. Thank God for him or we would be on page 113 right now

Your bike is:
Dirty carb
Doesnt run
Unknown jets in who knows what carb

Your Help is:
Online
Several hundred miles away
Can't hear your bike run
Doesnt know anything useful about your trike to make a determination
Cannot accurately tell you what jetting to run and most of them WON'T but that's out of decency because they probably don't want you to buy $120 worth of jets for a Keihin only to find they won't fit the Chinese copy you might choose to buy or they were wrong for a Keihin 24mm too.

These guys are trying to help you but dude, you've got to do your homework and your part and if you're going to own and ride a 35 yr old machine, you're either gonna need a good mechanic or you'll have to learn it yourself or else that X will rot while waiting for proper maintenance.

Clean the carb GOOD. Get the machine running. Know what size jets and carb you have FOR SURE. Do the PROPER procedure for coloring a new plug for reading it right. Then come back here with pics of the plug....good ones close up.....and I'm sure these guys can fix you up right.




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[atc300r]

Lets back the truck up.If your jets are clogged this would make your trike run lean or not at all.Take a 17 mill wrench ,pull the cap off the bottom of the carb,get a 8 mill socket and pull the main jet,clean it and the cap.My 84 200x quit at the races on the 18th.in the open main class.It had dirt in the cap on bottom.I cleaned it and it starts 1-2 kicks now.P.S. Im running 110 race fuel,stockish motor,DG pipe, open airbox,K&N filter,stock carb 112 main jet,40 pilot,14-40,gearing,18 inch rear tires,20-50motor oil,white gas tank,red fenders,82 250r plus six axle, black seal,twist throttle,black seat,aluminum low bend bars,stock front tire.

[AK47KID]

Nah not really I got enough going on to keep me busy that's why I haven't been on very much

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[RUNMEDOWN]

Ok, I dont want to get off on a rant here but :
I have been following this thread since it started. I have no horses in this race so I can just say this you can take it for whatever its worth; There are guys on this site that will bust your balls just for fun, no biggie that is just their thing. Have to take the good with the bad. There are a lot of people that will help you but you have to put some effort in. I understand that you are busy, so are most people on this site. That means if they take the time to respond you should at least listen. There have been multiple attempts to point you in the right direction but you have to get some solid details. There is no way anyone can tell you what will work for sure. Theses are old machines, they take some "turning a wrench" on a regular basis. I have mistakenly hooked a couple of my friends on atcs. That is great but they end up in my garage to fix. I am not a mechanic, but i can figure things out well and i also brake things alot. My point is turn a damn wrench and figgure some things out. This is not an attack on you just some advice: you will get a lot better advice if you try to work on it and learn as you go. People on here will see you are trying and not trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro on you as much. Just my .02 take it fior what its worth, but there are some very good people on here, as far as the "Inner circle" thing; deal with it that us part of life. Every group will have a sub-group of people who are thick as thieves and always have each outhers backs. The differance here is they only gang up when you try to bust balls of someone who has earned the respect of the group when you have not.


Of coarse that is just my opinion, I could be wrong

[atc300r]

And a partriiiidge in a pear treeeeeeeeeeee

Dam it I knew I forgot something.Thanks scooter.

[Scootertrash]

No prob buddy!! :beer ;)

[ironchop]

You mentioned in the first page it had a Bassani and then after you got it home, it turned out to be a Coffman's.........

See where this gets interesting is that you bought a trike that was running fine with an aftermarket Coffman's on it.....so one might then assume that the PO must have also needed to rejet back when he installed the Coffman's. That's the assumption I would make and then I would look at the jet numbers in that carb and see if they, indeed, rejetted the bike back then. Its important to know where you are starting from.

And no, everyone is not talking about the inner circle. There's only three or four of you that still bring it up and one of them was helping you too until you pissed him off four pages ago when you said you downloaded a manual and then obviously never read it because three posts later, you posted a pic of a kicker gear cover and asked if it was the oil pump. This is why we are giving you a hard time. We are merely repaying the aggravation.

Anyway good luck with your jetting. Maybe there's a member close to you that you could ask to meet up with for some help. Lots of helpful people here. You got a nice bike and I want to see it running and riding but it won't be nice for long if you keep wanting to shortcut.

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[knappyfeet]

It seems like every time I check this thread it's the same thing.

This is what's going on at "casa de knappyfeet".

My carb was gummed up Max Headroom style. After the float assembly comes in it should be tip top.

233020

[AK47KID]

Alright let's get this over with. I took the carb off last night. Jets were clean. I took the air fuel mixture completely out and cleaned it. On the end of it on the needle was grimmy but not too bad. Now about 3 weeks ago I had the same problem it wouldn't start. I played with the carb took the Jets out cleaned them. The needle was on the second to bottom clip. I moved the clip down one which was the very bottom and that made it worse. The plug was black and wet. Now it's back where the clip was when I got the bike second from the bottom. After I cleaned the carb I got the 200x to start. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160629/4dd479f941bca018780d10e9cbdae5e0.jpg pilot is stock 40. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160629/d7adc5cb268abd77388234bab9e6a427.jpg main is well... 108. ...



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[x-rider]

Get it together man. Lol.

[AK47KID]

Just ordered pilot 42. 45. And main 112. 118. 122. 125. In the mail unknown ETA

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[danbur55]

Gotta throw down a thought here. I don't know how many carbs I have pulled off that looked clean but would not start or run right but a spray of carb cleaner and compressed air and boom up and running. It only takes a small coating of our cheap gas to alter the size enough to make a difference. Not to say you have missed anything Just saying

[AK47KID]

Gotta throw down a thought here. I don't know how many carbs I have pulled off that looked clean but would not start or run right but a spray of carb cleaner and compressed air and boom up and running. It only takes a small coating of our cheap gas to alter the size enough to make a difference. Not to say you have missed anything Just saying
When I cleaned my carb I took everything out except the fuel mixture screw. I didn't think about it at the time and I was scared to screw something up. When I took the fuel mixture screw out I soaked it in carb cleaner and wipped the grime that had accumulated since 1985. Fired right up

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[fieldy]

Gotta throw down a thought here. I don't know how many carbs I have pulled off that looked clean but would not start or run right but a spray of carb cleaner and compressed air and boom up and running. It only takes a small coating of our cheap gas to alter the size enough to make a difference. Not to say you have missed anything Just saying

I've never really thought about it like that before. I always picture a speck of dirt clogging something enough to cause problems, not coating a passage enough to cause havoc. I will be using actual carb cleaner first thing from now on. Thanks for the insight!

[AK47KID]

Here's a pic of the plug lean ain't it?http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160702/b133c574e40e66458f67b153c9ea1b8d.jpg

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[AK47KID]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160702/15708a9b402d9bb7b62e16904e306893.jpg now it looks like this

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[AK47KID]

You mentioned in the first page it had a Bassani and then after you got it home, it turned out to be a Coffman's.........

See where this gets interesting is that you bought a trike that was running fine with an aftermarket Coffman's on it.....so one might then assume that the PO must have also needed to rejet back when he installed the Coffman's. That's the assumption I would make and then I would look at the jet numbers in that carb and see if they, indeed, rejetted the bike back then. Its important to know where you are starting from.

And no, everyone is not talking about the inner circle. There's only three or four of you that still bring it up and one of them was helping you too until you pissed him off four pages ago when you said you downloaded a manual and then obviously never read it because three posts later, you posted a pic of a kicker gear cover and asked if it was the oil pump. This is why we are giving you a hard time. We are merely repaying the aggravation.

Anyway good luck with your jetting. Maybe there's a member close to you that you could ask to meet up with for some help. Lots of helpful people here. You got a nice bike and I want to see it running and riding but it won't be nice for long if you keep wanting to shortcut.

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The trike WAS NOT running when I picked it up. The PO put a 108. Main instead of the 110 that's supposed to be in there. The PO said it was a bassani so I didn't think to look at it. Didn't know it was a Coffman till I got home

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[ironchop]

Kid, I'm impressed. You do appear to be trying harder and you didn't get too butt hurt about us busting your chops.

Do you have your pics backwards? The top plug pic looks much closer to right. The bottom pic looks lean. I think your captions are on the wrong pic

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[x-rider]

Kid, I'm impressed. You do appear to be trying harder and you didn't get too butt hurt about us busting your chops.

Do you have your pics backwards? The top plug pic looks much closer to right. The bottom pic looks lean. I think your captions are on the wrong pic

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I think so brown is good white is lean, black is rich.

[AK47KID]

Kid, I'm impressed. You do appear to be trying harder and you didn't get too butt hurt about us busting your chops.

Do you have your pics backwards? The top plug pic looks much closer to right. The bottom pic looks lean. I think your captions are on the wrong pic

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Nope didn't have them backwards. Was just right at first and then lean. My jets aren't gunked or anything. I put the needle clip one down now it's on the last clip and backed my fuel mixture screw out about 6 turns and still lean... should I just wait for my jets to come in on the 5th?

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[AK47KID]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160702/e75663c5c33b2fba4bdd2149709c54e2.jpg this is what it looks like now after i put the needle clip down all the wayand backed the fuel mixture out 6 turns

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[AK47KID]

I don't have a rubber boot for the throttle at the slide cap. Do I really need one so I don't such in extra air or is it fine? I also have my air box lid on the trike

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[hoosierlogger]

You definatley need to install a bigger jet if you have the adjuster out 6 turns. It is probably pretty close to falling out. I doubt the rubber boot has much to do with it. I'm not going to say nothing to do with it, but probably not much affect.

[ironchop]

You still running the 108?

6 turns is way too much. I'm with Greg, I'll bet the spring doesn't even have tension enough to hold it in the carb.

Don't run that motor until you get those jets.

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[AK47KID]

You still running the 108?

6 turns is way too much. I'm with Greg, I'll bet the spring doesn't even have tension enough to hold it in the carb.

Don't run that motor until you get those jets.

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Ya I'm still running 108. Hopefully my jets get here the 5th.

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