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83_200e_rider
02-14-2016, 10:40 PM
Ok so just bought the most haggard looking 86 200x I have ever seen. The axle on it is bent but the guy I got it from gave me an axle that he said he got with it, but didn't know what it was from. I know the 84 250r axles swap on and I'm thinking this might be one as they look similar in the few pictures I found. Does anyone recognize what this is off of or have a 84 250r axle laying around to compare? Thanks

Jmoozy27
02-15-2016, 12:13 AM
Looks like an 83-85 200x

86125m
02-15-2016, 12:54 AM
Agreed 1st gen 200x.

yaegerb
02-15-2016, 01:03 AM
X3....1st gen 200x

83_200e_rider
02-15-2016, 01:14 AM
Thanks guys

oldskool83
02-15-2016, 08:42 AM
1st gen....if the axle is bend ad you want to save it send shortline10 a message and he will straighten it. I was going to do this but decided to modify my stock swinger to put a 300ex axle in.

90nut
02-15-2016, 09:48 AM
Not stealing business from shortline here, but a good machine shop should be able to straigten the axle.

83_200e_rider
02-15-2016, 11:06 AM
Thanks for the advice on getting it fixed. Oldskool is there is thread showing how to modify the swinger to put the 300ex axle in? Also will the axle loose some of its strength after being fixed?

90nut
02-15-2016, 11:17 AM
Axle strength won't be effected much if 1st all as you don't need to heat it to repair. Need a good shop press and measuring tools.

oldskool83
02-15-2016, 11:48 AM
300ex axle swap depends how much you want to spend, or if you find a blown up parts bike you can rob the rear end.

You will need the following:

Swing arm Bearing ID/OD information ID x OD x width :

1985-1986 atc250r 91051-HA2-013 BEARING (40X62X12)
1985-1986 atc350x 91051-HA2-013 BEARING (40X62X12)
1987-1992 trx250x 91051-HA2-013 BEARING (40X62X12)
1986-1989 trx250r 91051-HA2-013 BEARING (40X62X12)
1993-2009 trx300ex 91051-HA2-013 BEARING (40X62X12)
1999-2014 trx400ex 91051-HA2-013 BEARING (40X62X12)
2004-2014 trx450r 91051-HA2-013 BEARING (40X62X12)

Swing arm Seal ID/OD information ID x OD x width:

1985-1986 atc250r 91252-HA2-003 DUST SEAL (52X62X7)
1985-1986 atc350x 91252-HA2-003 DUST SEAL (52X62X7)
1987-1992 trx250x 91252-HA2-003 DUST SEAL (52X62X7)
1986-1989 trx250r 91252-HA2-003 DUST SEAL (52X62X7)
1993-2009 trx300ex 91252-HA2-003 DUST SEAL (52X62X7)
1999-2014 trx400ex 91252-HA2-003 DUST SEAL (52X62X7)
2004-2014 trx450r 91252-HA2-003 DUST SEAL (52X62X7)

Swing arm axle collar: (between bearings on swing arm/carrier)

1987-1992 trx300ex 42621-HA5-000 COLLAR, RR. AXLE
1993-2008 trx300ex 42621-HA5-000 COLLAR, RR. AXLE

Bearing carrier c-clip: (holds carriers to swing arm)

1986-1987 atc200x 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
1983-1984 atc250r 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
1985-1986 atc250r 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
1985-1986 atc350x 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
1986-1989 trx250r 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
1987-1992 trx250x 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
1993-2009 trx300ex 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
1999-2014 trx400ex 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)
2004-2014 trx450r 90665-964-000 CIRCLIP (OUTER) (70)

After axle is in the bike will be .75" wider on the right side.

You will need to run a 300ex axle wheel hub on the left side of axle and a 200x axle wheel hub on right side.

I will be using a Tusk 300ex axle 2+2 axle.

Buy only OEM honfa bearings...you can use cheaper seals but the cheaper beatings are dogshit

To make it function properly with aligned chain and caliper is where the work starts.

I choose the 300ex axle because they are plentiful, cheaper and uses the narrowest bearing carrier of all the 4 wheelers in the TRX line up. I am keeping stock swing arm for now. You can run 300ex rear rotor and hub or swap to trx450r which is a good bit smaller.

300ex bearings are in 200x axle.
300ex sprocket hub needz to be machined .250" to on the inside to align the sprockets.
200x swing arm need .625" added to the hub side with a spacer for the axle bearing and seal.

Next is the caliper. You can use your factory one but will need to shim it over about .25" to line up with the new rotor.

by doing this you solve the following issues:

Over priced ATC axles
Over prices and limited selection on rear sprockets (trx sport quad sprockets have been the same since 1986 and are still the same on 2016 models) All kind of sizes out there.
Smaller diameter rotors if you use trx450r and new replacements are made.
No need for skid plates now...stock wont work anyway now. TRX450R sprocket rotor guards will need to be used...More clearance.
Crap axle lock nuts now go in the trash and you use a Durablue Posi lock for a 300ex.

But if you do not have $100 to mod the bike then get the axle straightened. This is not a hard mod but if you do not have access to machine and welding and parts it could end up costing more then most pay for their bike lol.

I used a new tusk 2+2 axle because the 300ex I had that was parted had no good axle stuff on it other then hubs and a new bearing carrier which I robbed of its guts.

83_200e_rider
02-16-2016, 11:01 PM
Thanks for the write up oldskool I will take all the information into consideration. The entire front end on the bike is bent and not the right forks even. Are there any complete front ends that will swap over, maybe even one that would be considered an upgrade?

oldskool83
02-17-2016, 08:48 AM
83-84 250R forks....see attached

buy 250r triples. take out the steering stem. Machine or dermal the hole larger to put in the 200x stem...reassembly using all 200x stuff. Go ride. all 83-84 250r stuff is the same as 200x, wheel, axle, brake, brake line. I sell shock boots also.