View Full Version : Feeler - Race Wire Harness for 85-86 ATC350x (no lighting)
ps2fixer
01-26-2016, 02:05 PM
I have a template setup from a member here ordering a race harness for a 350x, and was wondering if anyone else would be looking for one as well. I'm looking to run a batch of 5-10 of them. If you want to vouch that you would buy one (or more), please post below. I attached photos of how theirs turned out.
Looking at $55 each + $3 shipping. I can give a slight discount for more.
Thanks for your interest, I'm targeting to have the run done in 1-2 months to leave plenty of time for the other harnesses I have queued up.
For a push button kill switch, this one should work well or a normal tether one will work: http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-35130-KZ3-L30.html
Specs about the harness.
White with yellow stripe wire is not used in the harness, headlight, taillight, and regulator are not used.
CDI, Coil are wired for OEM location
Kill switch wiring is a bullet male + bullet female and does not use the hand bar switch. From my understanding this is a common layout for kill switches/tethers. You will need a Normally Open kill switch (open circuit for run).
OEM colors are used for easiest troubleshooting with a service manual
18 Gauge Wire (standard size) and made in the USA
Wire spec is GXL which is resistant to high heat, oil, chemical, and mold resistance (commonly used in automotive engine compartments)
Terminals are high quality Japanese
Tubing is a nice thick yet flexible PVC which is resistant to sunlight, weather, chemicals, oil, and mold
Terminals hand crimped (B style) Same style as OEM
frankydodo
01-27-2016, 06:37 PM
I remember buying a 185s wiring harness from you last year. And i was amazed with your work! Free bump for a true wiring genius!
ps2fixer
01-27-2016, 06:59 PM
Thanks for the bump and feed back =). Talking about the 185s, I should adapt it to use my newer style of of making harnesses.
oscarmayer
01-28-2016, 12:12 PM
I need one for my current build! building a MX 350X trike.
current harness is hacked up and I need a better one, or do you sell the pars to build your own? meaning can I buy all the connectors and white from you so I can custom mount stuff in different locations? if so I may keep the lighting coil and just get your standard 350x harness and do it up my way. everything on this frame is custom and so the connection points will be different.
Dirtweed
01-28-2016, 12:20 PM
ps2fixer does a great job. He has made one for my 250R (82) and my KLT160.
ps2fixer
01-28-2016, 01:48 PM
I need one for my current build! building a MX 350X trike.
current harness is hacked up and I need a better one, or do you sell the pars to build your own? meaning can I buy all the connectors and white from you so I can custom mount stuff in different locations? if so I may keep the lighting coil and just get your standard 350x harness and do it up my way. everything on this frame is custom and so the connection points will be different.
I could put together a kit if you want to go that route. You will need the tools for the crimps though. The 350x coil uses flag terminals, and I haven't found a good tool for that yet, just a crimper I modified that was a wire stripper with the crimps at the end. The CDI terminals require a different crimper as well, so 3 tools needed. You can bend over the crimps with pliers and solder, but that isn't common practice and I don't think it would hold up nearly as well.
http://www.cycleterminal.com/crimp-tools.html
First crimper ETC005 is for bullet terminals
Second crimper is ECT41 for the CDI terminals
Don't really have a suggestion for the flag ones. You could put normal spade terminals on instead which the first crimper can do.
The terminals, connectors, wire, and tubing as I kit would probably be around $30. Just a heads up, first time making a harness will probably take you 6-8 hours or so to complete depending how experienced you are with working with wires etc. Always make things longer than needed, you can always trim down later.
I can do custom orders, but I'm not real positive on how I can get the harness measurements for your application. Maybe take some string and run the main stretch from the kill switch connector to the tail light plugs, then tie on strands where the CDI etc need to come off and measure each point and post a photo? I'd make everything at least 1/2 inch longer than measured to be sure it reaches w\o issues. If it is just an extension in a segment, that is a lot easier to work with.
I do have a bit of a collection of orders currently, which is why I was posting a "feeler" since these harnesses won't be made for a while. I just received a supply shipment, so I'll be able to finish some orders up this week, I have been giving 2 months as a est of when I'll be finished, but that is allowing me extra time than it should take.
@Dirtweed
Thanks for the feed back as well. You wouldn't happen to know someone with a KLT250 harness would you? I'm trying to reproduce one for a new member here.
oscarmayer
01-28-2016, 04:58 PM
ok, hrmm well I defiantly need one of these harnesses then, if you I had you relocate some of the parts would that work?
I will take a photo and edit where i want everything to lay out at. Sorry not meaning to be difficult I promise!!!
ps2fixer
01-28-2016, 05:04 PM
The biggest thing I'll need are measurements to know where to stick the wires out at. I have the wire diagram and a base template to work from. Photos would help explain how much the harness needs to be modified from the factory layout. Custom harnesses by nature are difficult :).
oscarmayer
01-29-2016, 11:13 AM
ok give me a couple of weeks to get to that point and i will get you photos and even tape where i want to put the parts.
ps2fixer
01-29-2016, 03:37 PM
Not a problem at all, there is no rush :). I'll wait for the photos and try my best to work with you on this.
So far I haven't had any interest in the no lighting harnesses for mx/rade/drag application. Maybe I should target making the run as complete harnesses since I'm catching up on orders quicker than I thought.. I finished 8 yesterday that were waiting on a supplies shipment and were already 90% or so done. Now I ran out of Green wire, gah I'm blind lol. That order should be at my house middle of next week. Have 4 harnesses queued up yet, 2 which require locating a source harness to copy.
ps2fixer
01-29-2016, 09:59 PM
Small update on this, I finished the custom race harness I was making, so updated the first post with photos of how it looks. Notice the 4th photo only has the ground wire (green) in the white connector. Is not required, but helps ensure a strong ground threw out the system.
Also a side note, the red connector in the same photo was special ordered. I haven't seen that connector anywhere in red and my supplier was nice enough to require a somewhat small order to do the custom color, but I do have a life time supply now :).
oscarmayer
02-03-2016, 02:44 PM
awesome! did you mark where the kill switch would plug into? I am going to install a Tether on mine as the kill.
oscarmayer
02-03-2016, 02:48 PM
i will look at my frame this weekend and tape the electronic parts where i want them to be. well actually, everything is going to be up under the seat beside the air box all on the opposite side of the exhaust. Would that work so we know where to put the cdi and stuff? The coil will be somewhere near stock location.
ps2fixer
02-03-2016, 03:09 PM
As long as I can get some sort of measurements I can make it as close to your specs as possible :). I do have an 86 350x, so a photo of where things are going (zip tied on if needed for temp display), I can get a pretty good reference point on my machine, but it is complete so might be a little tricky to get solid measurements vs a stripped or semi-stripped frame.
The kill switch wires are the green and black with white strip wires coming out where the frame ground eyelet is. In the 3rd photo, it is the top connectors. I could put a label on each section when I make yours if you want.
oscarmayer
02-04-2016, 07:04 PM
I do. It have the stock mounting points so I can zip tie them to the frame is how I plan to do it. (Race style)
So if you can just make the kill switch wires longer and the rest of the stuff fit under the fenders next to the frame above the foot peg area (but top of frame) that would work. I guess the engine harness would need to reach too.
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ps2fixer
02-04-2016, 10:40 PM
I'll have to get out to my 350x and look at it.
Are you trying to stuff the wire harness up under the gas tank where the frame goes though there?
ps2fixer
02-06-2016, 04:16 PM
Update on the orignal intention of the post, I made a few complete 350x harnesses. $75 for 3ww members, $90 on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Honda-ATC350x-Wire-Harness-Fits-1985-and-1986-/191799530751?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
ironchop
02-06-2016, 09:21 PM
Those look like very high quality harness'. Nice work.
I'll be hitting you up for a liquid R harness sometime soon.
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ps2fixer
02-06-2016, 11:03 PM
Thanks, I try my best, and I really spend more than what is "needed" on these lol. The last order of heat shrink was $80, but I'll have enough for a while. It is the sealing type of heat shrink, not the cheap stuff, and it goes on the splice crimps where multi wires come together, similar design as oem except they put thick blue tape around the crimp.
Which year are you looking to get? Off the top of my head, I think the 85 used the round cdi plug and the 86 used the 4+2 style.
Based on the other 250r harnesses, I'd be looking to get around $75 to make it, or if you're going for a no-lights one, probably around $55 just to give a good idea on the price.
oscarmayer
02-10-2016, 03:42 PM
yes! that area
mine is an 85 I believe.
bad to the bone
05-30-2016, 04:56 PM
Are u able to make a complete 1985 honda atc350x wiring?and cost? Just wondering how much it would be. Might need one for a project later on.
ps2fixer
06-02-2016, 06:27 PM
Are u able to make a complete 1985 honda atc350x wiring?and cost? Just wondering how much it would be. Might need one for a project later on.
Yes I can make the complete harness, I've been charging $75 + shipping. 1985 and 1986 harnesses are the same for the atc350x.
Dirtcrasher
06-02-2016, 09:04 PM
Your work looks fantastic!!
oscarmayer
06-03-2016, 03:55 PM
PMed. ready to order MX harness,
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