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onformula1
12-06-2015, 01:25 AM
I just bought a very cool shock that I have been looking for off a friend.

Any guesses?

Model of trike?
Year/years of trike?
Manufacturer of the shock?
Who built the shock/set-up it up?
Who wound the spring?

(I know the answers, but let's play for fun) I did have to rack the brain when I saw it.

***Hint, one like this was in a magazine article***

### Bonus- Who was one of the guys responsible for the set-up/build### The winner gets a free trike shock rebuild including returned shipping from me!

Let's mix it up and have some fun!

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onformula1
12-06-2015, 01:28 AM
BTW, this shock will be restored/rebuilt for a trike I did own, but do not currently.

Time to start shopping.

Kyleiniowa
12-06-2015, 01:43 AM
Is it for a 85-86 ATC 250R?
Looks like a Race Tech build and setup? Maybe Works Performance?
No idea on the bonus! Ha. That's my best guess!


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atc12
12-06-2015, 01:58 AM
Its for a 200x and i will get the name in the morning when i look at mine.

onformula1
12-06-2015, 02:16 AM
Is it for a 85-86 ATC 250R?
Looks like a Race Tech build and setup? Maybe Works Performance?
No idea on the bonus! Ha. That's my best guess!


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Sorry, but you are close on one.

onformula1
12-06-2015, 02:18 AM
Its for a 200x and i will get the name in the morning when i look at mine.

You maybe close, but this one was built different than a few.

Jmoozy27
12-06-2015, 02:20 AM
Definitely for a 83-85 atc200x, probably an '84. Works performance is my guess. Built by mugen. Spring wound by someone who wound springs for a living.

I should get at least one of them right.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 02:28 AM
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Since mfg's change their shock style over the years, it's nearly impossible to be certain unless one has seen that exact style before and knew at the time what it was, but it has a very White Power style look to it.

atc12
12-06-2015, 02:30 AM
Mine is on an 84 with a plus 2'' calfab and i have never seen another. My canister is also some funky anodized color but still has the sticker.

onformula1
12-06-2015, 02:33 AM
Definitely for a 83-85 atc200x, probably an '84. Works performance is my guess. Built by mugen. Spring wound by someone who wound springs for a living.

I should get at least one of them right.

Honda 200X yes, 1984-1985 yes, not sure on the 1983 tubular swing arm, it's been a while since I held one, but let's say yes.

The- "Spring wound by someone who wound springs for a living" is not what I am looking for- (Name of product, company that made the product)

atc12
12-06-2015, 02:38 AM
Its going to be very hard to get to and dark but i'm going outside...

onformula1
12-06-2015, 02:39 AM
I am new to this game, am I helping to much???

I didn't invent this, it was done many days on this forum in the early days.

I always thought it was fun, I have/own many more if this is well liked...

(Yes, I think I have read every thread on this forum, except stuff like how do i put a snow plow on my Big Red) :lol:

onformula1
12-06-2015, 02:41 AM
Its going to be very hard to get to and dark but i'm going outside...

Please, don't hurt yourself, I doubt it is the same as this, I am pretty sure what you have.

Plus it is 1:45 am and 27 degrees!

atc12
12-06-2015, 02:51 AM
Took the clamps off and the sticker says WP

atc12
12-06-2015, 02:54 AM
And yes i am bleeding and the cop next door thought i was up to no good! Glad he keeps an eye on my stuff so good...

onformula1
12-06-2015, 02:56 AM
Yes, WP was short for White Power the famous Dutch shock company.

For fun-

Who owns them now and where are they now made?

How did they come up with the name White Power?

Why did they change to WP?

You guys just need to put it all together and add in the rest for the win.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 03:03 AM
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White Brothers also made a swingarm that your shock might have been attached to.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 03:06 AM
Yes, WP was short for White Power the famous Dutch shock company.

For fun-

Who owns them now and where are they now made?

How did they come up with the name White Power?

Why did they change to WP?

You guys just need to put it all together and add in the rest for the win.

From fading memory, White Brother was bought by Vance and Hines in so cal, but they do not have any white bros parts.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 03:09 AM
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My guess in the name is because their last names were white and they also built engines so they just added power to their last name....or they were in a white supremacist group....or both

atc12
12-06-2015, 03:11 AM
84 200x and wp is the end of the line for me. I'm always just a bit off from the win. I have always been curious about this shock. And yes the calfab does say white brothers on it.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 03:14 AM
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first guess on the spring mfg is progressive suspension then race tech but i think they had their springs made for them, then possibly ohlins.

atc12
12-06-2015, 03:17 AM
I would also have to guess Ohlins

onformula1
12-06-2015, 03:20 AM
84 200x and wp is the end of the line for me. I'm always just a bit off from the win. I have always been curious about this shock. And yes the calfab does say white brothers on it.

The White Bros. took many items and rebranded them as their own, the Cal Fab's were one of them.

The White Bros. were HUGE and could sell a ton of items compared to a indy manufacturer,,, Man I miss them!

This company was later started by Tom White's daughter-

http://www.dubyausa.com/

atc12
12-06-2015, 03:21 AM
Factory Connect?

atc12
12-06-2015, 03:26 AM
What would this shock and swingarm in very good cond be worth? Im thinking of selling this low hour 200x off to build up other bikes.

onformula1
12-06-2015, 03:30 AM
I would also have to guess Ohlins

Man, I wish

Great shock, but for a trike (And most) they had very soft springs with a ton of preload and Euro type valving, not the greatest ride, but they are built very well.

If you were or are a MX bike guy Ohlins has been beat up pretty good for many years in the magazines, it's a shame they could not listen to what the US wanted/needed.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 03:30 AM
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SHOCK AND SPRING

84 - 85 ATC200X

Sold by White Brothers

WP was founded in 1977 by Wim Peters, whose initials purportedly gave the company its name. That’s only part of the story, however, because for many years WP went by White Power. This made sense for two reasons: First, the company’s spring vendor manufactured hospital beds, so the only paint color it had was white. And second, throughout the 1980s and ’90s the US importer was White Brothers. At some point, however, someone realized that “White Power” had certain racist implications, so the name was changed to WP.


SWING ARM

White Brothers/Cal Fab MFG


WHITE BROTHERS

Sold to vance and hines in calif

onformula1
12-06-2015, 03:34 AM
Info- MXA did just print a interesting article on White Power recently.

onformula1
12-06-2015, 03:58 AM
What would this shock and swingarm in very good cond be worth? Im thinking of selling this low hour 200x off to build up other bikes.

I would guess a mint on EBAY.

Wasn't that a $1000 buck set-up in the 1980's? (More?)

atc12
12-06-2015, 04:11 AM
So what exactly are we missing for a winner?

onformula1
12-06-2015, 04:15 AM
So what exactly are we missing for a winner?
One guy with all the correct answers...?

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onformula1
12-06-2015, 04:16 AM
Note...Barnett468 is on my ignore list.

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atc12
12-06-2015, 04:20 AM
84/85 atc 200x, white power, white brothers, wim peters??? i hope

onformula1
12-06-2015, 04:23 AM
84/85 atc 200x, white power, white brothers, wim peters??? i hope
Nada, but I love your prediverance!

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barnett468
12-06-2015, 04:29 AM
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Model of trike?
Year/years of trike?
Manufacturer of the shock?
Who built the shock/set-up it up?
Who wound the spring?

### Bonus- Who was one of the guys responsible for the set-up/build### The winner gets a free trike shock rebuild including returned shipping from me!

]



1. ATC200X
2. 1984 and 1985
3. WHITE POWER/WP
4. Shock was built by WP then shipped to White Brothers as an assembled unit . . Any further modifications would have been done by White Brothers.
5. A hospital bed mfg company.

BONUS ANSWER

Ross Madea

atc12
12-06-2015, 04:31 AM
If you only knew... Woke the wife up for a flashlight, Woke the cop up thinking i was a burglar going in my shed, cut my leg on a rusty foot peg... I give up time for bed. I pm'ed you about a shock rebuild a few days ago. Are the 85 and 86 250r shocks the same? I need to send you one soon and plan to run it with a + 2 westcoast.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 04:31 AM
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Model of trike?
Year/years of trike?
Manufacturer of the shock?
Who built the shock/set-up it up?
Who wound the spring?

### Bonus- Who was one of the guys responsible for the set-up/build### The winner gets a free trike shock rebuild including returned shipping from me!

]



1. ATC200X
2. 1984 and 1985
3. WHITE POWER/WP
4. Shock was built by WP then shipped to White Brothers as an assembled unit . . Any further modifications would have been done by White Brothers.
5. Progressive Suspension.

BONUS ANSWER

Ross Madea

barnett468
12-06-2015, 04:32 AM
Model of trike?
Year/years of trike?
Manufacturer of the shock?
Who built the shock/set-up it up?
Who wound the spring?

### Bonus- Who was one of the guys responsible for the set-up/build### The winner gets a free trike shock rebuild including returned shipping from me!

]



1. ATC200X
2. 1984 and 1985
3. WHITE POWER/WP
4. Shock was built by WP then shipped to White Brothers as an assembled unit . . Any further modifications would have been done by White Brothers.
5. A hospital bed mfg company.

BONUS ANSWER

onformula

atc12
12-06-2015, 04:33 AM
84x, wp, ross madea, sorry barnett but i will have to copy you til you get it right. Lol

barnett468
12-06-2015, 04:34 AM
Model of trike?
Year/years of trike?
Manufacturer of the shock?
Who built the shock/set-up it up?
Who wound the spring?

### Bonus- Who was one of the guys responsible for the set-up/build### The winner gets a free trike shock rebuild including returned shipping from me!

]



1. ATC200X
2. 1984 and 1985
3. WHITE POWER/WP
4. Shock was built by WP then shipped to White Brothers as an assembled unit . . Any further modifications would have been done by White Brothers.
5. A hospital bed mfg.

BONUS ANSWER

Ross Madea

barnett468
12-06-2015, 04:36 AM
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Model of trike?
Year/years of trike?
Manufacturer of the shock?
Who built the shock/set-up it up?
Who wound the spring?

### Bonus- Who was one of the guys responsible for the set-up/build### The winner gets a free trike shock rebuild including returned shipping from me!

]



1. ATC200X
2. 1984 and 1985
3. WHITE POWER/WP
4. Shock was built by WP then shipped to White Brothers as an assembled unit . . Any further modifications would have been done by White Brothers.
5. Progressive Suspension

BONUS ANSWER

onformula

barnett468
12-06-2015, 04:37 AM
Add a 1 after to onformulas to all my posts.

barnett468
12-06-2015, 04:40 AM
84x, wp, ross madea, sorry barnett but i will have to copy you til you get it right. Lol

No prob, because if I do get it right, it will only mean that I got it right before you. :)

atc12
12-06-2015, 04:40 AM
1 200x
2 84 85
3 wp
4 wp/white brothers
5 hospital bed mfg
6 Ross Madea

onformula1
12-06-2015, 04:44 AM
Go to bed, try again tomorrow, PM me, I like you.

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onformula1
12-06-2015, 04:50 AM
It's spelled Ross Maeda, and he would laugh at this set-up, ! HUGE Suspension stud and one of my mentors.

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barnett468
12-06-2015, 05:00 AM
POST CORRECTION


Add a 1 after to onformulas to all my posts.

Add a 1 after onformula1's name where it appears in any of my posts . . I would hate to loose due to a "technicality".
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barnett468
12-06-2015, 05:05 AM
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POST CORRECTION

I'm getting dyslexic, change the spelling from Madea to Maeda in all my posts . . I would hate to loose on a "technicality".

barnett468
12-06-2015, 05:23 AM
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MRP also builds white brothers suspension.

http://www.mrpbike.com/

atc12
12-06-2015, 01:51 PM
1 200x
2 84/85
3 WP super adjuster
4 white brothers
5 fox??
Bonus, You

I got all happy when i found the 1985 ad with the white brothers 200x, but it told me nothing.

onformula1
12-07-2015, 02:57 AM
If you only knew... Woke the wife up for a flashlight, Woke the cop up thinking i was a burglar going in my shed, cut my leg on a rusty foot peg... I give up time for bed. I pm'ed you about a shock rebuild a few days ago. Are the 85 and 86 250r shocks the same? I need to send you one soon and plan to run it with a + 2 westcoast.

Yes, they are the same except the color of the compression adjuster knob.

1985 is black
1986 is goldish

Funny how we talked on the phone today about trikes for 5 hours?, and not once did you try to get the answers out of me.

Very honorable!, please post more you have a lot to offer & help others on the forum.

Thank you.

bkm
12-07-2015, 10:43 AM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/07/67fc12f3ff5fbaf4fb7f85b7bfc32618.jpg

atc300r
12-07-2015, 11:36 AM
I have read an articl on a quad site about a set of white power shocks. I think BDT works on them aswell.That swingarm is a work of art. Id love to score one like it.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/07/67fc12f3ff5fbaf4fb7f85b7bfc32618.jpg

onformula1
12-07-2015, 12:34 PM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/07/67fc12f3ff5fbaf4fb7f85b7bfc32618.jpg
I never get sick of seeing a beautiful Cal Fab.

I bet the White Bros. sold a lot more than Cal Fab at one time they had a massive distribution.

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onformula1
12-11-2015, 09:05 PM
6 days, times up on the game, thanks for playing.

ironchop
12-12-2015, 12:56 AM
Jeff is Hillbilly Approved. He camps in our cul-de-sac

His Calfab having 200X is pretty sweet too

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onformula1
12-12-2015, 01:05 AM
Jeff is Hillbilly Approved. He camps in our cul-de-sac

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Well, I don't have great conversations with people for 6 hours if they are not good people, thanks!

I heard about the locked gate and your plan,,, never give up!

I am from California, but I find "hillbillies" as you say some of the greatest people I have ever talked to in my life, and I have met many recently....Cool Cats!

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ironchop
12-12-2015, 01:16 AM
Hahaha the locked gate!!!!

Yeah those TF pranksters!

I swear there was a trail there that comes in the backside around the fence somehow. Me and Porkchop found it when we got lost as F@#$ the very first day.

I cant remember who shut the gate or who said it was locked but it wasn't. I vaguely recall ppl trying to stop us before I rolled down a hill in the dark with a trike on top of me.

I suppose he told you about Super Dave doing a double gainer over the bars of an out of control Big Red after I offered to guide a leisurely night ride

I'll bet John and T3 and them had something to dowith it...they were camped at the gate lol

onformula1
12-12-2015, 01:25 AM
Hahaha the locked gate!!!!

Yeah those TF pranksters!

I swear there was a trail there that comes in the backside around the fence somehow. Me and Porkchop found it when we got lost as F@#$ the very first day.

I cant remember who shut the gate or who said it was locked but it wasn't. I vaguely recall ppl trying to stop us before I rolled down a hill in the dark with a trike on top of me.

I suppose he told you about Super Dave doing a double gainer over the bars of an out of control Big Red after I offered to guide a leisurely night ride

I'll bet John and T3 and them had something to dowith it...they were camped at the gate lol

Jeff said he knows who tied the chain in a knot (I don't recall the forum name) I think you just wanted to torture the 200X shock I built for you at night! :lol:

86T3
12-12-2015, 10:46 AM
No, I'm mischievous but closing a Gare after dark is dangerous. Naturally, it was a park employee who did it. We had just gotten through as they were closing it. I think we did warn a couple people, and then someone came and opened it back up. Maybe it wasn't locked so we opened it back up? Can't quite remember.