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KASEY
10-28-2015, 11:33 PM
I GUESS ITS ABOUT TIME I THREW A FEW PICTURES OF THE 450 BUILD UP,, I know its been a while,,, but to much stuff gets buried on facebook and its hard to follow... sorry it took me so long to realize it, so I have built 2.5 450 conversions, 2 yz's and a wr.. so I will just throw some pictures of both of the builds since they are almost the same .,...

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/c605a7f8-ae78-42c5-8479-648c18876db6.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02642.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02641.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02640.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02635.jpg


http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02626.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/yz450.jpg

KASEY
10-28-2015, 11:58 PM
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02490.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02488.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC02447.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/1d387493-3742-45e9-ab40-e3193dc1012f.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/yz450_1.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/0919151034a.jpg

Ol Deuce
10-29-2015, 12:02 AM
That 's very Nice !!!!! Yes!!!

KASEY
10-29-2015, 12:06 AM
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/1011141213.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/1010141642.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/yz450_2.jpg

onformula1
10-29-2015, 12:37 AM
It looks like you changed triple clamps on the blue YZ, single pinch bolts top and bottom?

RapidRick
10-29-2015, 08:55 AM
Again, Awesome Richard!

KASEY
10-29-2015, 09:01 AM
one of the blue ones has 2 top triple clamps so I could get it built I have a new setup for it when it gets finished .. there are actually 2 blue ones you can tell by the swingers

Jwheeler
10-29-2015, 09:52 AM
As always Awesome !!!!! Richard keep up the great work.

Jones
10-29-2015, 04:51 PM
very cool i like

big specht
10-29-2015, 05:49 PM
As for the triples what problems did you run into?

KASEY
10-29-2015, 07:48 PM
i have not had a single problem with the triples. i have a set on a 250r a 350x and 3 450's zero issues. they are narrow and it makes it a little tricky to get the front brakes in there but it can be done .

onformula1
10-29-2015, 09:30 PM
Are you using fork tubes on those swing arms?

SUPERBEAST
10-29-2015, 10:40 PM
are you using a custom front axle or an axle from something else?

whipit
10-29-2015, 10:54 PM
very impressive

KASEY
10-30-2015, 08:46 AM
Are you using fork tubes on those swing arms?

yes I am,, there are about 500 of then at bobs ,,, price is right so I thought I would try it ,, so far no issues,,,

big specht
10-30-2015, 10:17 AM
Well you said you changed the set up on the blue one you are building. I was sure if you ran into a problem with other ones.

tommerp
10-30-2015, 11:12 AM
Rock on!!!!

LOVE THEM!

KASEY
10-30-2015, 01:59 PM
Well you said you changed the set up on the blue one you are building. I was sure if you ran into a problem with other ones.

the setup change is just a different set of triple clamps .. the yellow one has been ridden quite a bit and am happy with the front,, the next two are the same, i just threw up some random pictures here in no real order ,,,, there are 3 of them built now .

oscarmayer
10-30-2015, 03:34 PM
interesting idea with the fork tubes!

Ol Deuce
10-30-2015, 04:33 PM
Your mind works well !!!!:D:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

Jmoozy27
10-30-2015, 05:12 PM
Are the triples custom or from another bike? They look really sharp and fun to ride. Good work!!!

Billy Golightly
10-30-2015, 05:21 PM
Yellow 450 is very photogenic...


https://wgolightly.smugmug.com/Imperial-Invasion-2015/i-nJf3ZVb/0/L/_CPB1818-L.jpg (https://wgolightly.smugmug.com/Imperial-Invasion-2015/i-nJf3ZVb/A)

86tri-zrider
11-27-2015, 01:22 AM
Are the triples custom or from another bike? They look really sharp and fun to ride. Good work!!!

I was wondering the same about the triples. Are the triples and forks stock off the bike you converted? or custom?

nicker71
11-27-2015, 12:28 PM
What years work to do this? I've seen some cheap
Yz400f's around here lately.

KASEY
11-27-2015, 09:07 PM
any year steel frame is what i been using,,, will probably do an aluminum frame,, the triples i have on this one ar from a vtx 1800 Honda... on the next one i will be using a setup custom built just for this application,,

KASEY
11-27-2015, 09:33 PM
picked this up last week,,, prep work started on another bad ass 450 trike ... will do a better job of pictures on this one.

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/yz4502.jpg

86tri-zrider
11-27-2015, 11:32 PM
Yes deffinatly keep us poted on the build, im very interested to see exactly what goes into these, i know that youve been custom building your swingarms, but is there any swingarms that will bolt right in? Will the yfz450 swingarm work?

KASEY
11-27-2015, 11:52 PM
yes.. I am going to put a 06 yfz 450 swingarm on the next blue one,,,

86tri-zrider
11-28-2015, 12:28 AM
Are there any issues with sprocket alignment when doing that? Or does it fall into place like yamaha meant for there bikes to be converted into 3 wheelers ? Lol

KASEY
02-21-2016, 10:00 PM
wow this didn't get to be much of a build thread,, but here it is ,,, this one is almost ready for the imperial invasion

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/eric450.jpg

tommerp
02-21-2016, 10:09 PM
More :pics: !!!!!

86T3
02-21-2016, 11:39 PM
Beautiful. It only took 2 months to build? That's Pretty Crafty

big specht
02-22-2016, 10:30 PM
Looks good you are getting faster at putting these together lol. Seeing these makes me want to go out and buy a newer dirt bike. The only thing that sucks is what it causes to rebuild a stock motor in one of these newer bikes.

Yamawheeler
02-22-2016, 10:55 PM
You are a trike GOD. Where do you find the front rims and hubs for these? I would like a skinnier tire and bigger rim for my ytm 200.

KASEY
02-23-2016, 12:47 AM
Beautiful. It only took 2 months to build? That's Pretty Crafty

actually I turned the first bolt on this bike on January 17th . so I would say a 30 day build,,, big thanks to ERIC BARTON he managed to have all the prts on hand,, there was no waiting ,, he will be riding this at the imperial invasion nest week,,,,,

KASEY
02-23-2016, 12:50 AM
You are a trike GOD. Where do you find the front rims and hubs for these? I would like a skinnier tire and bigger rim for my ytm 200. front rim is a 10 inch wheel from jonathan honerlaw and the hub is atc250r

KASEY
02-23-2016, 12:54 AM
Looks good you are getting faster at putting these together lol. Seeing these makes me want to go out and buy a newer dirt bike. The only thing that sucks is what it causes to rebuild a stock motor in one of these newer bikes.
well its all part of the game!!!! I was thinking the same thing once... but I rebuilt a motor from the ground up and it will be good for years ,, so its all relative ,,, just do it!!

Tomcall
02-23-2016, 02:08 AM
Beautiful work Kasey

ditchmud
02-23-2016, 02:31 AM
Wow Richard, very impressive work! Your work is top notch!

thcowboy
02-23-2016, 10:00 PM
Nice work! Those look prety sweet! What rear fenders did you use?

Silver Bullet I
02-23-2016, 10:07 PM
Super sweet!

Dirtcrasher
02-23-2016, 11:28 PM
When Richard finds out what works, he makes lots of them!!

KASEY
02-24-2016, 09:41 AM
kind of a crappy picture,, but here it is with lights and most of the finish work done,,,

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/2341d5c3-8e76-44bf-bc24-0dd356123820.jpg

super8
02-24-2016, 11:22 AM
Awesome job!!! KASEY I sent you a private message.

250rRoostmaster
02-24-2016, 01:38 PM
Are you cutting down the forks at all? I know I've heard of using KTM 85 forks or even 125/250 forks and cutting them down a few inches. I have access to a 98' yz125 and am really thinking of doing one of these conversions!! Amazing work by the way, very very impressive!

keister
02-24-2016, 02:20 PM
Can't wait to see it in person - in 5 DAYS!! Top notch, as always.

Yamawheeler
02-25-2016, 09:25 AM
front rim is a 10 inch wheel from jonathan honerlaw and the hub is atc250r

Is that a buddy who had a spare or is that a company I can order from? Thanks for the info

Louis Mielke
02-25-2016, 10:30 AM
Is that a buddy who had a spare or is that a company I can order from? Thanks for the info

Message Xowner on this board. He produces these wheels.

ATC-Eric
02-25-2016, 03:05 PM
Man, it is beautiful. Cant wait to see it in person.

KASEY
02-25-2016, 11:09 PM
lol the kool part,,, is its got a motorcycle plate so technically its still street legal!!!!

DohcBikes
02-25-2016, 11:38 PM
Kool. You can get an MC plate for any atv in AZ.

DohcBikes
02-25-2016, 11:39 PM
Message Xowner on this board. He produces these wheels.Does he produce them or does he resell them? I didnt know he was a wheel manufacturer.

bkm
02-26-2016, 12:08 AM
Yep, makes them in the bathroom in his house.

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KASEY
08-07-2016, 10:15 PM
trying to post more pictures of these 450's but it WONT LET ME!!!!!!

KASEY
08-07-2016, 10:19 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/ed450_zps0t8vgmen.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/ed450_zps0t8vgmen.jpg.html)

KASEY
08-07-2016, 10:20 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/eric%20450_zpsst5vi3dc.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/eric%20450_zpsst5vi3dc.jpg.html)

KASEY
08-07-2016, 10:22 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/1463512862666_zpsabeb5ibn.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/1463512862666_zpsabeb5ibn.jpg.html)

KASEY
08-07-2016, 10:23 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/IMG_20160226_193617_zpswqbxcqls.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/IMG_20160226_193617_zpswqbxcqls.jpg.html)

KASEY
08-07-2016, 10:25 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/IMG_20160730_102909_zpspepbg2pn.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/IMG_20160730_102909_zpspepbg2pn.jpg.html)

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/IMG_20160728_165336_zpsutlfm8d9.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/IMG_20160728_165336_zpsutlfm8d9.jpg.html)

KASEY
08-07-2016, 10:27 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/1462927656468_zpsojvuih9s.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/1462927656468_zpsojvuih9s.jpg.html)

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/atc7007cta/0803161449a_zpsebcyubq2.jpg~original (http://s358.photobucket.com/user/atc7007cta/media/0803161449a_zpsebcyubq2.jpg.html)

plevib
08-08-2016, 12:28 PM
Richard, will you adopt me? I know I'm a little too old and I've already got parents, but I'm willing to try if you are!

oldskool83
08-08-2016, 01:07 PM
They are nice and really the way to go. If people have never road these 450's they do everything great and are freaking fun. I hope to do 250F trike next.

plevib
08-10-2016, 10:33 PM
So how do these handle compared to the quad conversions? You appear to do mostly dune riding but how are they track and trail?

I've never ridden either so I'm very curious. I've dreamed about fixing a trx450r or something (by fixing I mean removing that silly 4th wheel) but these bike conversions seem much much easier, cheaper, and frankly they look better. Plus you can always turn it back into a bike if you decide you really hate it (as if that would happen :lol: )

86T3
08-10-2016, 10:41 PM
Never having built either but owning a bike conversion and talking to all of these builders, the consensus is that a bike conversion is easier. There are good and bad pii ts to each, but the bike builds are easier and the bike motors are more potent. Don't listen to people that talk about gear ratios being wrong on bike motors, Its a poor argument some people make to make themselves or their trikes seem better than they are.

plevib
08-11-2016, 01:04 AM
Yup that was my thoughts! And I'm with you on the gear ratios, I have a xl500 engine in my trike ;) I like the idea of a powerhouse yamaha motor. Any thoughts on handling? The bike conversions sit higher, but also have more travel. I guess if you make it wide in the back that would help keep it on all three!

86T3
08-11-2016, 08:57 AM
I wouldn't necessarily say bike conversions sit higher. With quad conversions the seat is where it is but with bike conversions you have to modify a subframe anyways, so you are able to set the seat height where you want. Jason Hall's 450, I believe, has the lowest seat height of any conversion made.like any conversion, the handling is great if you get the geometry correct.

BOB MARLIN
08-11-2016, 09:06 AM
If you look at the picture that's been going around lately with the yellow one that Richard built sitting right along side his yellow YFZ 450 you'll see that it the trike seat height is the same height as the Quad. If your comparing it to an ATC, yes it will be taller, but it is about the same as a "modern" atv.

plevib
08-11-2016, 10:59 AM
Very good points! It's settled then. I'm in the market for a 450 bike ;)

KASEY
08-11-2016, 09:40 PM
these 2 machines have the exact same rear suspension,, the difference is the trike has a +4 length over the stock length of the quad,,, it handles like a dream ... I did not shorten the forks because I wanted more cushy travel for this old body,,,,,,, as you can see in the picture they look pretty much the same from the tank back,,,, because they are including the stock airbox . same shock linkage and shock,, I cant wait to get my white one done so I can set it next to my white yfz too!!!!!

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/2450.jpg

plevib
08-11-2016, 10:34 PM
Thanks for the info, I can't wait to see your white trike either! Would you be interested in selling me a swingarm like that one day? Just curious since you do such nice work and I could make it happen, but it would probably take a few tries haha. I would also like to grill you with questions one day but I'll wait till I actually get the bike haha

KASEY
08-14-2016, 11:03 PM
all done,,,,

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/eds.jpg

KASEY
08-14-2016, 11:08 PM
Never having built either but owning a bike conversion and talking to all of these builders, the consensus is that a bike conversion is easier. There are good and bad pii ts to each, but the bike builds are easier and the bike motors are more potent. Don't listen to people that talk about gear ratios being wrong on bike motors, Its a poor argument some people make to make themselves or their trikes seem better than they are.

that is some very sound information,,,

Dirtcrasher
08-17-2016, 03:19 PM
all done,,,,

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/eds.jpg

VERY very nice!! and I wonder how many Fast Trekker tires you have with the old bar pattern.

I LOVE trekkers!!

czac
08-26-2016, 01:41 PM
wow...just wow! these are really nice! Very nice. you're like some sort of friggin dirt bike to trike wizard or something! lol

KASEY
08-28-2016, 10:37 AM
here is the next 2 I am working on now,,, aluminum frames,, we are leaving the steel frame builder in the dust ,,,,,

234371

plevib
08-29-2016, 12:53 PM
here is the next 2 I am working on now,,, aluminum frames,, we are leaving the steel frame builder in the dust ,,,,,

234371

I'll take those old steel frame trikes off your hands for you ;)

SteveCZ28
09-01-2016, 09:57 PM
took the time to read from the beginning. some very awesome work here. wish I had the money for one of these.

Thorpe
09-02-2016, 03:27 PM
Kasey-- as always, I am impressed with your builds! Well done Sir!

swampthang
09-02-2016, 06:59 PM
These Builds make the gears in my head turn. What years of bikes have you used? I have been doing some part number searching on line today and seems like a guy could easily build one of these out of a yz250 as well. Looks like they both seem to use the same swingarms. WR seems enticing to me being street legal titled. I know your a busy dude but details please? I'd love a winter project and some incite on which parts to start looking for would be cool.

czac
09-06-2016, 05:33 PM
wow...they just look so friggin clean.. such a great job converting these. i wish i had your talent!

KASEY
09-07-2016, 09:52 PM
we are moving forward!!!


http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/triples.jpg

Ol Deuce
09-07-2016, 10:11 PM
these 2 machines have the exact same rear suspension,, the difference is the trike has a +4 length over the stock length of the quad,,, it handles like a dream ... I did not shorten the forks because I wanted more cushy travel for this old body,,,,,,, as you can see in the picture they look pretty much the same from the tank back,,,, because they are including the stock airbox . same shock linkage and shock,, I cant wait to get my white one done so I can set it next to my white yfz too!!!!!

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/2450.jpg

Old Bods require lots of TLC..........LoL Ol Deuce

rdonald1979
09-18-2016, 10:49 PM
Kasey I would like to know who is making your trees?

plevib
09-19-2016, 12:12 AM
Kasey I would like to know who is making your trees?

Honda.
:P
Read page two of this thread. also search on the Google machine. That question was beat to death haha

rdonald1979
09-19-2016, 11:50 AM
I know about the VTX triples just wondering about the custom units he has on the new machines?

KASEY
09-28-2016, 10:47 PM
ok close ups of front brakes time,,,

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/joe4501.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/joe450.jpg

KASEY
11-14-2016, 12:11 AM
well here is another one almost done,, 2011 wr450f white plastic with a small amount of blue,,,,,,,

236844

OZQUAD44
11-14-2016, 07:44 AM
Hi Kasey
I'm putting together the parts for one of these machines. I've got a doner yfz, an extended yfz swing arm, extended axle, hubs, wheels, custom atc250r ten inch rim, and a set of raked vtx triples.

I was looking at doing a steel frame one because I thought it would be the easier conversion, but I noticed you've use an intermediary bracket between the rear sub frame and the main frame on that alloy frame yzf.. Is that a custom bracket or is it a cut of a yfz frame?

Also I've managed to pick up a set of raked 3deg vtx triples, this will reduce the trail of the completed machine. This should lighten the steering a bit. Admittedly, I won't know the resultant trail until the whole thing is bolted together. In your experiences do you think a raked triple clamp will cause some handling problems. Regarding Your conversions thus far, using standard VTX triples, how's the steering? Heavy like a standard tri z, our light like an 87 tecate 3?




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OZQUAD44
11-14-2016, 07:47 AM
Oh and by the way, I love your work. Your an inspiration to mad scientists all over the globe.


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TriMotoMan
11-17-2016, 12:13 AM
I'm really eager to hear how the steering feels on one of these machines as well

6spdls1z28
11-17-2016, 06:20 PM
Beautiful work. I want one.

KASEY
11-18-2016, 10:54 PM
well here it is 10 minutes before it left for glamis,,,,,,

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/wrjoe.jpg

350for350
11-19-2016, 12:00 AM
WOW! Just WOW! Amazing would be next.

BOB MARLIN
11-19-2016, 08:37 AM
Dammit Richard. Every time you post a picture of one of your builds it makes me want to scrap mine and start over !

plevib
11-19-2016, 06:54 PM
Wow! Richard, I sent those adoption papers and you still haven't responded. ............

Again, amazing work! You should start selling those things. ..... looks like it rolled off yamaha's line.

So I've got most of the parts to start a build you've inspired. (But it'll be quite different than yours..... but it's a surprise) I have two questions for you.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161119/70bf724cd9febe9f284bcb07773e16e3.jpg


1) is there any chance you could make a front axle and front brake disk adapter?

I have access to a lathe, and I could probably bumble my way along, but I would be very willing to pay you to save me the trouble. (Vtx triples, 2003 yz450 forks, and 200x hub)

2) if they answer to the first question is no, any general advice or warnings for when I tackle this?

Thanks And please let me know about the adoption papers. ;)

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OZQUAD44
11-20-2016, 09:08 AM
Hey, I want t to be adopted too.... you'd be up for a 45 year old Aussie son wouldn't you? ...


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Bob B.
11-20-2016, 09:36 AM
I've read this entire thread. You are really refining these trikes as you go and your work appears to be top notch, great job. I bet if you put together a kit with all of the custom parts to convert a 450f, they would sell very well.....I'm looking forward to additional pics!

KASEY
11-20-2016, 09:27 PM
ok picture time,,, i finally got my photobucket linked ,,,,

ed hicks owner
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/IMG_20160813_142715.jpg

eric barton owner
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/IMG_20160904_141605.jpg

me me me....
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/FB_IMG_1473038731841.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/IMG_20160918_115412.jpg

ed on the track..
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/Screenshot952016-11-20-09-01-46-11.png

a sign the guys made me for my office wall,,,,
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/IMG_20160929_200906.jpg

09 yz450 on the bench already for the next track bike,,
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/IMG_20161119_120726.jpg

oldskool83
11-21-2016, 12:05 PM
I think I am going to build one. Just found some 250F parts cheap local. I think these yamahas look about the best out of the newskool builds.

OZQUAD44
11-25-2016, 12:37 PM
Can anyone advise if a 2004 yfz450 engine would fit into a similar age wr450 or yz450 frame? The reason I ask is I have a complete yfz450, plus triple clamps, extended swingarm, and other parts to convert a wr450 into a trike, but if I could use my quad engine in a wr frame it would save me a fair bit of money.


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6spdls1z28
11-25-2016, 06:42 PM
Makes me want to convert my 250f

KASEY
11-30-2016, 11:04 PM
ok here it is again,, 09 yz450 .. simple with no wiring ,, just a kill button and a throttle cable ... this oe should go fast,,,, she wont be pretty just a track bike as a spare


http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/09yz.jpg

HondaRidr
12-01-2016, 02:13 AM
What makes you go with Yamahas over other makes?

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OZQUAD44
12-01-2016, 06:52 AM
I have never met Kasey, (Justin?) so forgive me for responding, but I assume these conversions are simpler that the other ones because many of the components are close to bolt on. And the styling of the rear fenders really lend themselves to a match for the end product. Essentially these conversions are simplistic in many ways compared to other ones out there. That, plus the fact that Yamaha make a good product.



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KASEY
12-03-2016, 12:32 AM
i have stayed with yamaha because they are very well built and they have reverse engineered a lot of parts,, i can use the yz,, no lights and very simple or the wr lights and a bunch of electrical,, steel or aluminum frames,, i have been doing these for years now and like the way they look ,,, i dont feel trying to do other brands is worth the effort to basically start over with what i need to have on hand to build these,,,,, this is the 09yz i am doing now,, its going to be a spare track bike for the guys to use at the races ,, it will also see a little time in the sand...


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BOB MARLIN
12-03-2016, 09:48 AM
Can anyone advise if a 2004 yfz450 engine would fit into a similar age wr450 or yz450 frame? The reason I ask is I have a complete yfz450, plus triple clamps, extended swingarm, and other parts to convert a wr450 into a trike, but if I could use my quad engine in a wr frame it would save me a fair bit of money.


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I have read a few articles on putting a wr/yz engine in the yfz frame, but not the reverse. But if you already have the yfz engine I think it would be a great build to put into a wr frame. There would even be some advantages to it.
The quad engine is geared a little lower in the higher gears, and the quad engine is built a little heavier in the bottom end. The main difference in the size of the engine that I can see ( I have both a yfz quad and a wr trike) is the width of the engine cases to make room for the beefed up tranny, it looks to be 3/4" or so wider.

86T3
12-03-2016, 11:45 AM
If you put the quad engine in you have to put an oil tank somewh where, something to think about

OZQUAD44
12-03-2016, 12:11 PM
Yes, the oil tank, that has been mentioned to me before. I know some bikes use the frame down tube as an oil reservoir, but that would take some work to pull off. I'm thinking I'd probably have to install one just behind the heel guards forward of the axle.

The extra width is the bit that worries me, would I be able to line up sprockets?


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HairyJR
12-03-2016, 12:33 PM
Back from my annual Thanksgiving trip, spotted Kasey's latest creation taking it's first shake down ride. New owner seem'd pretty happy and it drew a lot of appreciative crowd on lookers. Kasey does great work and oh it looked right at home in the desert.

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KASEY
12-03-2016, 07:50 PM
the steel frame bikes have an oil tank in the frame,,, the aluminum frames have a larger crankcase with an oil rez in it,,,,

OZQUAD44
12-03-2016, 08:09 PM
The more I look at these conversion the more I want. I like how this one uses a ytz front fender, keeps the yami theme going.

What's people thoughts on the fold up foot pegs, verse fixed? Kasey's last build looks like it's retained the stock footpegs. I was planning on making a fixed bracket and using the yfz footpegs per previous builds. I think the wider atv style pegs are mandatory on a trike, or quad, but Is there any disadvantages to going to a fixed foot peg?

I know on my 87 T3, the footpegs used to fold back unexpectedly some times when I was leaning off the bike, so I always had to adjust my riding style to prevent that from happening. But in contrast to this my feet were once saved by the ability of the foot pegs to move back when I bottomed out at the base of a dune once. So I'm a little torn on which way to go.


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KASEY
12-04-2016, 01:02 AM
i took 2 sets of pegs and made the ones on joes trike, i didnt have time to mess with building a whole new setup for the aluminum framed trikes these do fold back,, if he doesnt like them i will upgrade,, i have been working with wicked metal designs on stailless pegs so i can leave them raw to match the aluminum frame,,,,, they will appear on the 450 i am building right now,,,,,, they will not fold back ,,,

BOB MARLIN
12-04-2016, 10:50 AM
Hey Richard, whats the deal with the big foot pegs. Is it a comfort thing or are you finding that they are needed for control ?. I have a set of yfz pegs, but for now I was planning on staying with the WR set up unless they are needed. I really don't even notice the difference when I ride it, but then again I haven't got much seat time on this thing yet.

Have you done anything with the forks to soften them up ?. Mine seem a bit "harsh". I need to replace the seals and at that time I will go with the lightest oil I can find. I just wanted to know if you have done anything with the innerds.

KASEY
12-04-2016, 11:16 PM
Hey Richard, whats the deal with the big foot pegs. Is it a comfort thing or are you finding that they are needed for control ?. I have a set of yfz pegs, but for now I was planning on staying with the WR set up unless they are needed. I really don't even notice the difference when I ride it, but then again I haven't got much seat time on this thing yet.

Have you done anything with the forks to soften them up ?. Mine seem a bit "harsh". I need to replace the seals and at that time I will go with the lightest oil I can find. I just wanted to know if you have done anything with the innerds.
probably be ok with stock pegs,, i just like the wider longer atv style of peg with a kick up omn it ,,, my forks have compression and rebound dampening adjusters i like the way they feel so i have not changed anything on them,,,

OZQUAD44
12-05-2016, 07:28 AM
Hey bob, not sure if you mean your new to three wheeling, or just your new ride. I would consider wider pegs almost mandatory for a trike, or quad. Two wheeler pegs just don't provide the platform to really move around and hang off the trike to get get the best out of it.

But like all things, if it's working for you as it is. Then it's all good, each of us have our own preferences.


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BOB MARLIN
12-05-2016, 09:58 AM
No, not new to 3 wheelers, just new to my 450 trike. I have the big pegs ready to go, just haven't put them on. Seems like every one is going to the big pegs and was just curious why. Still have a lot of little things to finish on the 450, I'll save the pegs for last.

86T3
12-05-2016, 12:14 PM
In my opinion, bigger pegs are the single best mod you can do to a trike. They make it much safer and easier to ride

atc300r
12-05-2016, 12:33 PM
Wow .These trikes are very nice. Man you have a nack to building these sweet machines.

TriMotoMan
12-05-2016, 07:23 PM
just got some vtx 1800 tripples in the mail, next buy will be a 2005 wr450f and some yfz450 quad parts, let the madness begin:naughty: this thread is awesome, shows how easy these conversions are compared to others

big specht
12-05-2016, 10:05 PM
Like it's been said before you make the conversion look to easy lol. Anyway I'm not sure it was said farther back in this thread but how seat/bar height compared to a R or X ? I still want to do one of these but with a Honda but you make the yamaha's look good!

BOB MARLIN
12-06-2016, 10:03 AM
The seat height ends up higher than an R or X. It's about the same height as the quad.

Matt85'350x
12-07-2016, 01:42 PM
The seat height ends up higher than an R or X. It's about the same height as the quad.

Did you build your own 450? Didn't see a build thread-do you have any pictures of it?

BOB MARLIN
12-07-2016, 04:24 PM
Yes I built my own. Made my own swing arm and my own tripples. I'm still in the stage of tweeking things to get them the way I want it and it still has a hodge podge of colors going on from all the original colors of parts used. I didn't post any pictures of the build mostly because at the time there was a few people on the board that were being complete A holes to just about everyone and I didn't feel like dealing with any of them. I havn't seen any posts by them in a while so I think they may have been banned for a bit.

KASEY
12-10-2016, 01:33 AM
Yes I built my own. Made my own swing arm and my own tripples. I'm still in the stage of tweeking things to get them the way I want it and it still has a hodge podge of colors going on from all the original colors of parts used. I didn't post any pictures of the build mostly because at the time there was a few people on the board that were being complete A holes to just about everyone and I didn't feel like dealing with any of them. I havn't seen any posts by them in a while so I think they may have been banned for a bit.

bob please post pictures here in this thread as i wouldd like to keep all these in the same thread,,,,,

BOB MARLIN
12-12-2016, 09:49 AM
bob please post pictures here in this thread as i wouldd like to keep all these in the same thread,,,,,

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This is a picture from a few months back after it just got its "Roller" status.

OZQUAD44
12-12-2016, 11:07 AM
Bob there is two different motorcycles there, and two different swing arms. What is what?

Hang on worked it out, the first ones not bobs, and it's not a yz450, what is that air cooled bike?

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plevib
12-12-2016, 09:53 PM
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KASEY
12-13-2016, 11:57 AM
,,,,, this is my thread dealing with YZ and WR 450 TRIKES ONLY please keep it that way ,,, start your own build thread .......

KASEY
12-13-2016, 11:58 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161212/232d9899c5640ec7a3262049b69f408.jpg

pro tip:
A 2006 yfz450 swing arm is very different than a 2003 yz450 swing arm. .......


But after some hacking it kinda fits. A long way to go but it's got the right number of wheels now ;)

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please delete these posts not yz own wr 450's

yaegerb
12-13-2016, 12:50 PM
Well the suspension it's replacing is a 2003 yz450 ;) I'm attempting a new twist. if and when I get more bugs worked out I'll post a build thread. The bike is a 82 xt550
Build thread here http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/1982-xt-550-rebirth-carb-suspension-and-brake-upgrades.1088470/

Plevib, I moved your posts over to a new thread for you in trikesylvania.

plevib
12-13-2016, 07:27 PM
please delete these posts not yz own wr 450's
Sorry I didn't mean to offend you. My build basically is a 450 because the whole suspension is a yz450. I am using your ideas of vtx triples and a yfz swing arm so I thought I'd post it here because it's using your build ideas. Not trying to steal your thread.

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KASEY
12-31-2016, 11:59 PM
and BOOM!!! AS QUICK AS THAT SHE IS A RUNNER AND READY TO BE DETAILED,,,,, NEXT I HAVE A 09 WR TO FINISH UP ,,,,,


http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/6ccaaea3-d267-4f7e-83fb-da09b1ba0bd8.jpg

KASEY
01-01-2017, 12:03 AM
NEVER a dull moment in the shop,,,,,, 1 down 1 to go,,,,,, then we have a suprise,,,,,,

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/1228161054.jpg

big specht
01-01-2017, 01:40 AM
Man you got this down pat. I'm more of a Honda guy but you make those yamaha's look easy lol keep up the good work.

Ranvier
01-01-2017, 12:50 PM
That's a pretty sweet shop and build.

drzdale47
01-01-2017, 01:19 PM
Any body ever do a 2000s cr250r trike conversion or do you guys know of a thread on here?


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x-rider
01-03-2017, 11:46 PM
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I had to read this thread two times. I'm now starting to get the picture. Nice write up on this.

Bob B.
01-05-2017, 10:16 PM
I'm very impressed! You have this down pat!!

BOB MARLIN
01-17-2017, 12:29 PM
FIRST RIDE REPORT !


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Finally got the 450 out for the first real ride. The power of these engines makes these a blast to ride and it's available all through the RPM range. It took a little getting use to the physical size of the trike, they are a bit longer and taller than a 250R or a 350x but very comfortable. The suspension is a big difference from my old trikes- there is a LOT of it and it's plush. A few things I'll be changing are ditching the twist throttle and getting bigger foot pegs. I was going to stay with the dirt bike pegs but quickly found out I needed bigger ones for sure. The twist throttle got me in trouble more than a few times on some off camber bumps so I will be switching to the thumb. Also it needs more tire in the rear to keep it hooked up. All in All I'm pretty happy with it.

KASEY
01-17-2017, 10:52 PM
GLAD TO SEE IT RUNNING AND YOUR PLEASED!!! CANT WAIT TO SEE AFTER IT HAS HAD THE BOB TREATMENT,,, I LIKE BIG PICTURES,,,,,,,



http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/89f916eb-4f44-490f-b6b8-c315543f5adb.jpg

BOB MARLIN
01-18-2017, 10:06 AM
The power delivery, suspension and the E start really made this build well worth it.

socs28
02-06-2017, 07:35 PM
If this is the wrong place to post this question I'm sorry, just not sure where to post that it would get answered. Maybe I've missed something, but I haven't seen any Honda's done in a while. How much more difficult are they? And do you know of any threads done recently?

KASEY
02-06-2017, 10:47 PM
i am doing yamahas and i welcome pictures from guys also building yamahas,, as we are all working together to build these trikes and make them better with each new build,,,, you will have to look elsewhere to find someone building hondas ,,

j013N
02-06-2017, 11:29 PM
Hi kasey, quick question.. Do you keep the stock rake angle of the bike frame at the triple? If no, do you modify the frame to the desired angle or build the triple with an angle in them

joefixit0
02-07-2017, 02:47 AM
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BOB MARLIN
02-07-2017, 04:20 PM
Hi kasey, quick question.. Do you keep the stock rake angle of the bike frame at the triple? If no, do you modify the frame to the desired angle or build the triple with an angle in them

I know this question was for Kasey but I thought I could give a little insight on what I did. On the steel frame bike the oil is in the frame so cutting it to change the rake was not what I wanted to deal with. I built the triples to lessen up the "Trail" on the steering geometry. Then I played with the rear shock mount position to bring the rear up, taking a few degrees of rake out of the front end.

OZQUAD44
02-07-2017, 06:43 PM
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Joe which year and model have you used for this conversion


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joefixit0
02-07-2017, 06:55 PM
OZQUAD44, I started with a 2003 WR 426

KASEY
02-08-2017, 12:47 AM
i have done 03 yz,04 yz 05 wr 09 yz 05 yz 11wr and 06 wr done both aluminum and steel frames..

OZQUAD44
02-08-2017, 06:52 AM
The 426 are a lot cheaper second hand, did they come with an electric leg?

Kasey
Would you consider any particular year/model more suited to the conversion, or give a better result?




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KASEY
02-09-2017, 12:11 AM
steel frames easier unless your an aluminum welder,, which i am not,,, its all about the same ,, .. yz easier because there is no wiring to deal with ,,, wr way more time involved it the electrical,,,,

KASEY
02-09-2017, 12:13 AM
YZ no electrical ,, no lights no lighting coils ,,, wr early less wiring later years a lot of wiring working on making the electronic pickup for the trip odometer on the front hub functional ,,,

KASEY
06-09-2017, 10:57 PM
ok time for an update,, i built and sent a wr450 to canada last month,, have only a single picture of it so far, so here it is,,, owner is going to do some glamour shots when graphics are installed
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KASEY
06-09-2017, 11:09 PM
i started on a new 450 for my wife to cruze the dunes on next season,,, 05 wr450f going with a 85yz250 theme,,,, see if i can get some pictures up ,,, cant find much of the begining so we will move on from here,,, its an 85 yz250 canadian edition theme,,,,, so here is a start of the build,,,,,,

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KASEY
06-09-2017, 11:14 PM
using a lonestar tube subframe on this one ,, its going to be a lightly warmed over 478cc big bore motor, full desert lighting will be setup on this for those long night rides in the dunes, i am building this for my wife,, she has no idea ,,, she rode my yellow one last season and it was hard to get het off of it,,, so to reclaim my yellow bike i will bribe here with this ,,,

TexFest
06-10-2017, 12:03 AM
have you done any efi bikes yet or all carb bikes?

KASEY
06-10-2017, 12:28 AM
have a customer actively looking for one now,,, so i will very soon it looks like,,,, so far only wr and yz's

Samjp22
06-10-2017, 02:56 AM
Saw that black and green conversion in person last week, sharp looking machine KASEY!

redsox
12-24-2017, 09:38 AM
Any chance of getting the photobucket pics in this thread converted? i heard there was a way but i'm no computer expert. This is my favorite thread and i'm bummed that the early pics are gone...

KASEY
12-25-2017, 08:54 PM
to get 3rd party hosting ,,, photobucket wants $399 a year for unlimited sharing,,,, i guess i wont be usimg them anymore,,,,,,,,, guess i will look back and see if i can fill them back in,,,,,
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250rfan
12-28-2017, 04:05 PM
Top notch.

3Z with Fangs!
11-20-2018, 07:06 PM
Why no 2 stroke conversion from a YZ?

TexFest
11-22-2018, 01:17 AM
Why no 2 stroke conversion from a YZ?

there is one

3Z with Fangs!
11-22-2018, 09:26 AM
there is one

I went through this entire thread and didn't see one, maybe I overlooked it, IDK.

jb2wheels
11-22-2018, 12:19 PM
Why no 2 stroke conversion from a YZ?

Because Tecate - after that, why bother?

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TexFest
11-22-2018, 03:11 PM
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Red Rider
11-22-2018, 09:45 PM
Any info on it? Almost looks like a 125.

TexFest
11-22-2018, 09:58 PM
I found it on Instagram, I think I remember seeing it on one of the Facebook groups also

It is a 125 from Australia


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