What are you using to keep your Maier plastics from getting melted by exhaust?

[Ryah]

I've seen a kit by Maier for a heat tile that said it is good for 400 degrees constant or 500 degrees intermittent.
There is also a kit called Lava Mat. Here are it's specs Specifications:

Brand: Heatshield Products
Mfg Part: 770001
Color: Bronze
Finish: Carbon Fiber Look
Material: Crushed Volcanic Rock
Size: 12" x 24"
Temperature Rating: 1200F Continuous (1800F Intermittent)
Thickness: 0.007"

Is this overkill? I just don't want the new rear fender to melt by the kick starter like I see on so many other ATC's. What have you used that worked?

[Dirtweed]

Hmmm didn't think of that. I see some kind of heat shielding on my TRX450R. Maybe I should be looking
for something for my other trikes and quads.

[onformula1]

This is what I use, but they are getting hard to find.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-MOTO-TILE-29-1002-AS-IS-/271929954075

[barnett468]

I've seen a kit by Maier for a heat tile that said it is good for 400 degrees constant or 500 degrees intermittent.
There is also a kit called Lava Mat. Here are it's specs Specifications:

Brand: Heatshield Products
Mfg Part: 770001
Color: Bronze
Finish: Carbon Fiber Look
Material: Crushed Volcanic Rock
Size: 12" x 24"
Temperature Rating: 1200F Continuous (1800F Intermittent)
Thickness: 0.007"

Is this overkill? I just don't want the new rear fender to melt by the kick starter like I see on so many other ATC's. What have you used that worked?


ok, there is no such thing as overkill when trying to keep high heat away from a part.

one problem with mats is that the actual insulating material will still heat up which can soften the adhesive enough to allow the mat to simply fall off.

another prob is that many are thin and therefore may not reflect enough heat and you can not glue one on top of the other.

a different option to the mat is to simply wrap the offending pipe with header wrap in the area required, and NO, in your case, it will NOT cause your pipe to rust away into nothing.

below are two of the better header wraps . . they are both have basalt [lava rock] and both are resistant to a whopping one thousand eight hundred degrees of direct heat or flame etc, lol.

the dei wrap only comes in one thickness which i think is 1mm . . the other brand i posted comes in 1/2, 1, and 2 mm thickness . . i would wrap it 3 times with the 1 mm or twice with the 2 mm but you can try just 1 layer at first and see how hot it gets but I assure you it will emit noticeably less heat if it 2 mm thick instead of just 1.

you can attach it with their fancy clamps or simply secure it with stainless safety wire

https://www.designengineering.com/category/catalog/dei-cycle/motorcycle-exhaust-pipe-wrap-kits/titanium-exhaust-wrap-lr-technology

http://lavawrap.com/

https://www.designengineering.com//sites/default/files/imagecache/product/010128_dei-exhaustwrap-titanium_0.jpg
https://www.designengineering.com//sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/010127-2x50exhaustwraptitanium-lifestyle.jpg
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[barnett468]

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I just re-read the specs you posted and that stuff is in fact only .007 - .008 inches thick just like you said which is simply laughable . . that is so thin it couldn't keep the heat from a piece of toast from burning your fingers.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HSP-770001/

[Mosh]

Depends on what machine you are having the problem on.
250R? Only melting I have ever seen is result of piss poor fitting exhaust, usually caused by a bent subframe. I have maier plastic that is 5 years old and never melted. Header tape will trap moisture and cause the exhaust to rust.

[oldskool83]

Depends on how you mount them. I rubber mount them on 1st gen 200x with modified stock mount so they do not flop around. They I place HVAC aluminum tape with thick sticky backround on the areas close to the head. Never melted anything after that. total costs...$10

[barnett468]

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As I specifically stated, the exact type of header wrap I posted and the amount you are going to use will NOT cause your particular exhaust to rust away . . I know this for a FACT because I have done this MANY times before for various reasons . . You also do not use any type of sealer on this particular wrap . . I have also owned cars that have had header wrap on them for many years, one of which was a 1966 Dana prepped Super Sport Chevelle with a 450 hp L78 427 ci engine in it and it had the header wrap on it for 30 years, I sold it around 8 years ago to a friend of mine and it still has the same header wrap on it.

I am NOT saying that header wrap will never promote or accelerate rust on an exhaust pipe, I am simply saying that this particular wrap in this app will not.
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[RUNMEDOWN]

I have never had issues with header wrap on my ATCs, they get wet but they are on a high heat source so they dry out fast, never rusted my pipes. I used it to protect my new Maier plastic on a 200x that was just a little too close for comfort to the pipe. just my .02

[Mosh]

Does your 67 chevelle get driven through muddy creeks and snow and water? It will rust...it holds water.
fact water rusts steel..fact...anything that abosrbs water will hold water..fact of the universe..rust is caused by moisture..

[tecaterob]

^agree....had a mud jeep with headers wrapped and they rusted pretty bad. That's why I ceramic coat my pipe add small sheet on plastics.

[yaegerb]

X3, I have used header wrap on quads before. It will rust the crap out of your header. Not worth it IMO. Also, I second mosh's comment. What bike is this for?

[barnett468]

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In addition to being porous, the particular header wrap I posted absorbs far less water/moisture than most others because of the basalt/lava rock it contains.

...and yes. where I live [wherever that may be, lol] it rains like the biblical flood during part of most every year and I know that not only my Chevelle headers were exposed to a lot of water on occasion I know that other cars I and my friends had that had header wrap were also exposed to a lot of water and not a single one our headers rusted out.

...HOWEVER, I suppose I should have said something like, "imo and personal experience, which may differ from the opinions and/or personal experiences of some others, your header will not likely rust using this particular header wrap in this particular app." so my apologies for the way my first post was worded.

With this in mind...I would be more than happy to change my previous post to read that way for the purpose of increased accuracy, because some wraps, in some conditions, on some metals, certainly can promote rust, and I personally would prefer not to use it on an ANY header if it can be avoided....however....I am unable to do so because I HAVE NO EDIT BUTTON. :lol:
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[Marty]

Auto Zone sells heat tape made by DEI. You can stick on fender on back so you can stick to fender to avoid burns on plastic

[Mr. Clean]

Does your 67 chevelle get driven through muddy creeks and snow and water? It will rust...it holds water.
fact water rusts steel..fact...anything that abosrbs water will hold water..fact of the universe..rust is caused by moisture..

You forgot:


FACT: and now is the time for Dr. Death