1984 200es wiring help

[beastybaconman]

I just picked up a 200 big red for $100 and the guy I got it from hacked up the wiring pretty bad. I have most of it sorted out but the ignition switch is all broken apart. So I was wondering if someone can help me bypass the switch. Do I need to put in a new toggle switch or can I just connect the wires and use the kill switch? Any help would be appreciated.

[beastybaconman]

Messed with it a little more and figured out the red/yellow wire needs to touch the red wire and the neutral light comes on. So now because it doesn't have a pull cord I'm trying to figure out why the starter isn't working. The small wires on the starter relay were cut and I guessed and put the red/yellow one on the I side because it goes through the consent fuse and the DC consent to the ignition switch and I put the green/red one on the S side because it goes through the inhibitor switch to the start switch, is that the way they're supposed to go? It doesn't say on my wire diagram. Also, once I got the neutral light working, I was messing with it and if it's in gear and you push the start button the neutral light comes on, does that mean there's a short somewhere?

[Jmoozy27]

I'm not sure about that model but on the 250es the black to red allows the starter and all electronics to function. How many wires connect to your ignition switch?

[beastybaconman]

On my rig there's 4 wires black, green, red, and yellow/red. I took a closer look at the wire diagram and figured out the red and yellow/red need to be connected for everything to work. That first pic is my ignition switch for now haha. I also figured out one problem with the electric start, that second pic is the start relay out of an old ford that someone rigged up to it. Until I get a new one I made a tool that goes on the teeth for the pull start so I can just turn it over with a drill. Only problem now is that I have low compression, about 100 psi instead of the 159 +-14 the manual calls for.

[oscarmayer]

honestly, if it is that boogered up, I would spend about $35-$55 and buy a good used harness for a 82-83 200e or 84-85 200ES trike on ebay.
will save you tons of time and a headache.

as you can see from this photo your starter relay is NOT factory and could be the issue.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-84-Honda-200E-200ES-Big-Red-Starter-Wiring-Solenoid-Complete-O-E-M-/321766154302?hash=item4aeac1e03e&vxp=mtr

here is a decent looking harness.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-83-HONDA-ATC-200ES-200-ES-3-WHEELER-ENGINE-WIRING-WIRES-ELECTRICAL-WIRE-/161399273813?hash=item2594257955&vxp=mtr

that harness comes with all electrical including new starter coil and cdi, so it is a great deal at $40

[beastybaconman]

Thanks for the info on the harness but I think I have it figured out good enough to make it run. I did order a new starter relay for $8 just to see if I could get the electric start working, but if that doesn't fix it I'm not going to worry about it cause I made my own electric start :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p80RVEIiOA