1983 200 Headlight

[Mike Burke]

My 1983 Honda 200 headlight is not to bright. Its dim and yellowish looking...even at high rpms
Is the bulb or a wiring or ground issue ? What should I check ?

Thanks

[prometheus]

Yes all of the above. Personally I would get a good led light and mount it in your old ones place. Brighter and better unless you want to keep the original look. Rebuilding a 185s right now and I am going to update all lighting to led.

[Mike Burke]

Is there a coil for the head and tail lights ?
What runs the juice for them ?
I have unpluged and cleaned all the connections I could find...its a little better but not much.

Could you share what kind of LED lights your going to use for the updated lights ?

[shortline10]

Lighting coil is located behind the flywheel . its the larger of the two .

[Mike Burke]

Thanks

Could the lighting coil be weak or going bad and that is causing the dim lights ?

[shortline10]

Yes .......



Thanks

Could the lighting coil be weak or going bad and that is causing the dim lights ?

[Mike Burke]

would you have a part # for the lighting coil ? I cant seem to locate it in the manual

[shortline10]

Just go on eBay and purchase a aftermarket one .

[Mike Burke]

I haven't taken it apart yet so I haven't seen It. I have a idea what it looks like but not positive. I see some Ignition coils but not Lighting coils...... Could you post a photo of one so I know what I'm looking for ?
I'd like to have one in hand before I take things apart .

Thanks

[shortline10]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-ATC185-Ricky-Stator-75W-Lighting-Coil-/381125673465?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58bcdc41f9&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FL350-ODYSSEY-ATC200S-ATC200-ATC185-FLYWHEEL-PULLER-/181628121369?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a49e13119&vxp=mtr

You will need a flywheel puller and the new coil gets soldered in .

[Mike Burke]

Thanks

Is it very commen that the lighting coil would go bad ?

[aramid]

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What model is it?

[Mike Burke]

1983 Honda 200
I see sometimes its listed as a 200a
Its a pull start...just a regular 200

[aramid]

1983 Honda 200
I see sometimes its listed as a 200a
Its a pull start...just a regular 200

does it still have a high low switch?

what happens on high or low?

is the tail lite bulb working?

if the tail lite bulb is working you can remove it and see if your lites get brighter

if you have at least 12 volts you could try a halogen lite around 30w . . they might be around 7.00 . . the led ones might be around 20.00.

i think the head lite bulb is 25/25w and the tail lite bulb is 5w . . i would check and post what they are.

you may have a yellow wire coming off the stator . . if so you can unplug it while it is running and check the voltage at idle and around 2000 rpm.

[Mike Burke]

Yes


what happens on high or low?

It switches the beam of the light angle...but the light is still dim and yellowish looking. The brightness doesn't change.


is the tail lite bulb working?

Yes...it works

I will check those other things....

Thanks

[Mike Burke]

I checked the head light 45/45w
the tail light bulb has no watts marked on it.....its a wagner bulb 17635 which looks like its a 26.88 watt bulb ??

So I took the tail light bulb out and the head light was BRIGHTER that ever.....

Wrong bulb in the tail light ??

I went to the local shop and got a small bulb. Works fine now.

Is there a danger running with no tail light bulb...as far as the electrical system and the voltage running to the headlight bulb ?

[JustEnough]

If you search with the string "wagner+17635+watts" at Google or similar, you will find that your tailight bulb is rated at 26 watts and was overwhelming the headlight bulb. Good thing that you did not spend all that money on a lighting coil and flywheel puller (and another flywheel key, after you mess up the first one).

[Mike Burke]

Yep...that bulb was the culprit. ...i don't know how it got there but its gone now. Thanks" aramid " for suggesting to check the tail light bulb. Im glad it was a easy ..cheap fix.

[DSHOT59]

Does anyone know what the correct tail light bulb # is, my 83 200 headlight is kinda dim also had it out in the snow yesterday so long it got dark and the snow was a bit yellow lookin. Maybe I can get an easy cheap fix too.
Watch out where the huskies go and don`t you eat that yellow snow. RIP Mr Zappa.

[Mike Burke]

I think this one would work
http://www.mfgsupply.com/01-8903.html?source=googleps&gclid=CMqI_7muuMMCFYI8aQodPbYA3A

I went to the local motorcycle shop and they had a small bulb that worked for me..

[aramid]

Does anyone know what the correct tail light bulb # is, my 83 200 headlight is kinda dim also had it out in the snow yesterday so long it got dark and the snow was a bit yellow lookin. Maybe I can get an easy cheap fix too.
Watch out where the huskies go and don`t you eat that yellow snow. RIP Mr Zappa.

remove your tail bulb . . if there is no improvement it is not the problem . . if there is an improvement than run a lower watt bulb . . also look at your frint one . . if it is 25 you can try a brighter one if you have 12 volts at the yellow wire on the alt..

[aramid]

I checked the head light 45/45w
the tail light bulb has no watts marked on it.....its a wagner bulb 17635 which looks like its a 26.88 watt bulb ??

So I took the tail light bulb out and the head light was BRIGHTER that ever.....

Wrong bulb in the tail light ??

I went to the local shop and got a small bulb. Works fine now.

Is there a danger running with no tail light bulb...as far as the electrical system and the voltage running to the headlight bulb ?

yes, wrong tail lite bulb, i told you your tail lite bulb should be 5 watts and the head lite should be 25 but to try a higher watt one.

[Mike Burke]

I see on the oem parts list for my model the head light bulb is 45/45w stock.
Looks nice and bright now..

[aramid]

I see on the oem parts list for my model the head light bulb is 45/45w stock.
Looks nice and bright now..
ok, thats odd because in the service manual it says its 25 . . anyway, what does it say the rear lite should be?

[Mike Burke]

Yea....the wireing diagram im looking at says
12v 45/45w front
12V 5/5w rear

[DSHOT59]

I`ll try and remove the bulb and see what happens just to verify if that's the problem good advice thanks. I don`t use the headlight much at all but I like to have everything workin correctly just the same.