For a New Project ...Hard to find part HPATC

[Ol Deuce]

This was a hard to find part ! Still looking for more to go with it ! swingarm,Frame I would like to build a Nicholson or Hi Performance ATC 185/200:Bounce:Bounce
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_3437_zps4e819cf8.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_3437_zps4e819cf8.jpg.html)

[Dave8338]

Subscribed ! ! !

[Ol Deuce]

Subscribed ! ! !

Hmmm?????????????????????:wondering:wondering;)

[Joseph Farrow]

I just sold (3) sets of those on ebay not too long ago.

Ol Deuce do me a favor. Please send a copy of that logo from the sticker to Blue Line so he can reproduce it. I could use a few. The same sticker was used on the frame and swing arms.

Look forward to seeing a build tread!

[Ol Deuce]

Thanks Joe....Ive been looking over the "BIG MOE" LoL I do have a HPATC 185s conversion but would love to have the real Deal !!

[Josh in FLA]

Ol Deuce do me a favor. Please send a copy of that logo from the sticker to Blue Line so he can reproduce it. I could use a few. The same sticker was used on the frame and swing arms.

I second this please. I'd like to have a couple of those decals for my build as well.

Anybody remember or know if these were only sold in grey? Seems like every pair I see with the sticker intact on are grey, mine were painted black but the grey is evident underneath.

[Dave8338]

I'd gladly be in for a set of the decals. May even have a place to stick one. :naughty:

As for the build, I'm all eyes ! :lock:

[Ol Deuce]

I got the photos sent to Bruce at Blue line.... Now we have to start bugging him LoL bruce@bluelinedecals.com<bruce@bluelinedecals.com>;:D:Bounce

[shortline10]

I've got one done already just make the drive and pick it up LOL . Of course bring some cash :naughty:

[thestud25]

This was a hard to find part ! Still looking for more to go with it ! swingarm,Frame I would like to build a Nicholson or Hi Performance ATC 185/200:Bounce:Bounce
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_3437_zps4e819cf8.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_3437_zps4e819cf8.jpg.html)

I know where a hi-performance frame is right now.

[Ol Deuce]

I know where a hi-performance frame is right now.

I sent up a message..:Bounce:Bounce...!LoL way cool that would be a cool start!!! Ol Deuce

[Ol Deuce]

I've got one done already just make the drive and pick it up LOL . Of course bring some cash :naughty:

Mike I'd love to make the drive .....But LoL tehehe

[Ol Deuce]

:Bounce:Bounce Thanks, This is one I do want to get recreated. I will add it to the list,lol Soon as I get it done I will post it up. Thanks again



Bruce Alleman
Blue Line Graphics
717-201-7901
www.bluelinedecals.com

:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce :D Cool we will be getting the HPATC decal :drool:

[Ol Deuce]

I know where a hi-performance frame is right now.

Hahaha Ya I know just where it's at:lol::lol::lol::crazy: Thank you So very much for going one step beyond..:drool:..:cool:..............Ol Deuce

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[thestud25]

You are welcome. I am about to drag it into the garage for the night.

[Ol Deuce]

You are welcome. I am about to drag it into the garage for the night.

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:: drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::d rool::drool:

[90guy]

So this makes me wonder. What swing arm is used with that frame? A HPATC swing arm? Really dont know much about the HP scene

[shortline10]

Nice !!!!!!!!!!! How fun was that motor to remove studs ? they are tight !

[Ol Deuce]

So this makes me wonder. What swing arm is used with that frame? A HPATC swing arm? Really dont know much about the HP scene

Ya don't see them to often Shortline did a Super job restoring his ! To your question the swingarm is tublar! Im gonna steal a picture from Shortline LoL Hahaha Thank you Mike!!!

[shortline10]

Any time Ol Deuce :beer



Ya don't see them to often Shortline did a Super job restoring his ! To your question the swingarm is tublar! Im gonna steal a picture from Shortline LoL Hahaha Thank you Mike!!!

[Dave8338]

Hahaha Ya I know just where it's at:lol::lol::lol::crazy: Thank you So very much for going one step beyond..:drool:..:cool:..............Ol Deuce

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Well look at that poor lit'L Thannng ! Someone must best rescue it....


http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=208821&d=1329053790

NICE.................................. ..................................... .................................

[Jwheeler]

Nice looking trike as always Mike.Want to see more pic's ?

[thestud25]

Well look at that poor lit'L Thannng ! Someone must best rescue it....


http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=208821&d=1329053790

NICE.................................. ..................................... .................................

Someone did. I went out there and save d it for ol deuce.

[shortline10]

Here ya go Jwheeler
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/140972-Project-185s-High-Performance-ATC-Full-Suspension





Nice looking trike as always Mike.Want to see more pic's ?

[Ol Deuce]

This may be the Start of my Swing arm Just a little Nick may go a long way!! LoL

What this is is the pivot and 3'' of a nickelson swingarm:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::cool:

[RapidRick]

I got your back Randy

[Ol Deuce]

I got your back Randy

Thanks!............. I'm gonna need all the cover I can get!....... Tehehe

[Joseph Farrow]

This may be the Start of my Swing arm Just a little Nick may go a long way!! LoL

What this is is the pivot and 3'' of a nickelson swingarm:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce
208904

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::cool:

Looks like a good starting point!
Have you heard anything from Bruce on the HPATC Decal?

[Ol Deuce]

Looks like a good starting point!
Have you heard anything from Bruce on the HPATC Decal?

He sent a message back ,He will let me US know when it's ready ! This is cool!!!

[Ol Deuce]

She is coming Home!!! saved from the scrap man!!!! Should have her Friday ! Thanks goes out to the STUD !!!!!!!!!Yes:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce :D Ol Deuce:crazy:

[Ol Deuce]

The ham bone
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[Jmoozy27]

That thing needs meat!!!

[Josh in FLA]

The ham bone
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Awesome, cant wait to see it start going together.

[Dave8338]

Picked clean and blasted ! :beer Looking forward tho this build. GREAT work................

[Ol Deuce]

Picked clean and blasted ! :beer Looking forward tho this build. GREAT work................

Thanks!! It won't be long now!

[Ol Deuce]

The HPATC is well & safe in it's new home! Thanks to "TheStud":Bounce:Bounce:Bounce
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[Joseph Farrow]

Any word from Bruce on the HPATC Decals?

Have you done any work on the bike?

[Ol Deuce]

Not yet ! I told my wife I would get the Hot Rod running first:rolleyes: ! LoL just gathering parts I will drop Bruce a note :Bounce Ol Deuce

[Ol Deuce]

The UpDate:

It's on my list, I will have something in a couple of days. I was having issues with chrome but I consulted a great friend and he has me on the right path to print on chrome vinyl. So I will get on it!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2015, at 6:13 PM, "Randy and Barb Mead" <32roadster@tctwest.net> wrote:


Hi Bruce Just checking in on the High Performance ATC decals ? Have ya had any progress to report ????? The guys at 3WW needed a report

Thanks Bruce!

[Ol Deuce]

Had a nice day today I rode my Super X feeling good ....so I came back to the shop and started to get the engine put together for this HPATC !!!!
I'm using the '81 honda 185s top end bored to the stock bore of the 200x so she will kinda look like a 185s but with a kick start !!!!! LoL The piston
is a 10.25 : 1 !!!!
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[Ol Deuce]

the engine is almost complete 214746This 200x bottom end looks so good with this 185s top end on her LoL:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[Jmoozy27]

She definitely has a good shape.

[Ol Deuce]

Yup Kinda lean & race ready LoL:crazy:

[Ol Deuce]

I've been making a New exhayst system for this HP ATC 200 !!!! New from the head all the way back!! off the head it will be a 1 1/2'' going to a cone 1 5/8'' to 3 1/2'' can with a 2'' perferaited pipe inside that will be 8'' long with a 2'' cone baffle
216335216336216337216338:D:D

[Jmoozy27]

Looking good, Randy!!

[Ol Deuce]

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More of the same !!

[Ol Deuce]

216344216346
This is the pipe on my HPATC conversion ! Not sure who the MFG. is ???? PK Racing Products?? It's small compared to the new pipe!!!!

[Ol Deuce]

Got the hanger made to day:D:D:D216400216401

[Ol Deuce]

I can't do any welding until the head pipe is cut and fit!!!

[Jmoozy27]

How are you gonna handle the frame? Powder or paint?

[Ol Deuce]

How are you gonna handle the frame? Powder or paint?

On this build I think paint !

[Jmoozy27]

On this build I think paint !

I say good choice, keep it original. It would be nice to recreate that frame for future builds. That style just seems solid.

[Ol Deuce]

I say good choice, keep it original. It would be nice to recreate that frame for future builds. That style just seems solid.
The HPATC frame is very solid over the Honda frame!LoL :-)

[Ol Deuce]

Head pipe time ! its working out slick! 1 1/2'' Headpipe the old pipe is a DG head pipe!!!!! WoW what a difference this is going to make!!!!
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[Ol Deuce]

the rear pipe is starting to take shape
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[Jmoozy27]

And what a good shape that is. Ol girls gonna be nasty... Kinda long and slender...:beer:naughty:

[Ol Deuce]

Making some progress !! this has clean Powder ! the head pipe is blue wow!
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[Ol Deuce]

The chassis & pipe
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[Ol Deuce]

Next step !!!! Stab the engine in the hole!!!:D:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:beer ...........Ol Deuce

[Jmoozy27]

Hell yeah, looking at all the old pics this week had me wondering about this one!!!

[Ol Deuce]

Hell yeah, looking at all the old pics this week had me wondering about this one!!!
won't be long ! I hope:D:crazy::Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[Ol Deuce]

The engine is mounted ! it was a real trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro to get down into the mount location !!! Glade that little job is done !!!!
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[Ol Deuce]

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Now to come up with the rest of the goods !!! LoL Love it Ol Deuce

[onformula1]

That's very nice, excellent work.

Where did you get the muffler parts? (I have read the whole tread, maybe I missed it.)

[Ol Deuce]

The cone came from speedway and red part is 1/2 of a cherry bomb!!!! and I made the end cap on my lathe !!! Its going to work out well ! now that the engine is mounted I can connect the head pipe !!!

[Ol Deuce]

That's very nice, excellent work.

Where did you get the muffler parts? (I have read the whole tread, maybe I missed it.)


The cone came from speedway and red part is 1/2 of a cherry bomb!!!! and I made the end cap on my lathe !!! Its going to work out well ! now that the engine is mounted I can connect the head pipe !!!

[Jmoozy27]

Man I didn't even notice that the frame has color now. It looks good. I know you said you were going to paint it. Looks powder. Really smooth.

[onformula1]

LOL, I was thinking Cherry Bomb, remember when auto parts stores would have a 50 gallon barrel full of them in different sizes they were like 5-8 bucks a piece.
Now all I see is fart pipes for imports starting at 3" and larger.

[Ol Deuce]

LOL, I was thinking Cherry Bomb, remember when auto parts stores would have a 50 gallon barrel full of them in different sizes they were like 5-8 bucks a piece.
Now all I see is fart pipes for imports starting at 3" and larger.

The pipe ends at 3 1/2''...........and the cone was 1 5/8'' to 3 1/2'' worked out great !!!!

[onformula1]

^ Truly a great idea.

[Ol Deuce]

I was looking for a deep tone with no back preasure !!! LoL

[Ol Deuce]

Almost happy with my pipe ! it's just about done !!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce
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[yaegerb]

Good lord, now that's a pipe brotha! You make the coolest sh*t!

[Ol Deuce]

Good lord, now that's a pipe brotha! You make the coolest sh*t!

Hahaha Thanks Brendon:Bounce:Bounce:beer:welcome: ........Ol Deuce

[Ol Deuce]

Im Very happy with my pipe !! it fits like a glove !!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_2044_zpshiefmmlx.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_2044_zpshiefmmlx.jpg.html)
this is at the back
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[Ol Deuce]

This is what Flow Looks like ! Right up her pipe looking to the head pipe!! Kinda CQQL LoL
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[onformula1]

So I guess there's no spark arrestor law in Montana?

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[Ol Deuce]

So I guess there's no spark arrestor law in Montana?

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Hahaha Don't we wish ! thinking of a Bills arrestor, my Baffel is correct for whats been done and his arrestor should go over the works with out issue!!!

[onformula1]

Darn, I was going to move there.

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[Ol Deuce]

Darn, I was going to move there.

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That would be cool ! You could beat the heat that's for sure!!! I used to live in Prescott , My little brother is still there!!!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:beer

[onformula1]

I go to the Prescott area often my- Mom, step father & grandpa retired there and my mother & father in law & aunt are moving there soon.

I prefer Flagstaff, I love the cooler weather, trees and riding there, plus snowboarding!

[onformula1]

Hahaha Don't we wish ! thinking of a Bills arrestor, my Baffel is correct for whats been done and his arrestor should go over the works with out issue!!!

Like this?

http://billspipes.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=174

They work great, easy to clean too. They don't rob that much power.

You could always go with some Supertapp flapjacks.

[Ol Deuce]

Like this?

http://billspipes.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=174

They work great, easy to clean too. They don't rob that much power.

You could always go with some Supertapp flapjacks.

Thats the one !!!!! the price is right and should fit inside perfectly! It's fun to build out of the Box !!! My shock is toast but I have tons of clearence
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[onformula1]

Who makes that shock? Its not air is it?

[Ol Deuce]

Who makes that shock? Its not air is it?

Its a Works shock
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[Ol Deuce]

I took it all down this afternoon and it's really blasted out I think total "Junk"

[onformula1]

I took it all down this afternoon and it's really blasted out I think total "Junk"

If you want send it to me and I can tell you for sure as long as the hard chrome shaft is good, that gets into big bucks.

The body is casted, that's old school, plus they haven't been painted for a long time.

[Ol Deuce]

If you want send it to me and I can tell you for sure as long as the hard chrome shaft is good, that gets into big bucks.

The body is casted, that's old school, plus they haven't been painted for a long time.

Let me see whats going to happen .......

[onformula1]

OK, I don't charge any member to take apart a shock and give them a full report. USPS has a fee flat rate box that you can ship 1-2 shocks for $12.65 flat.

Just throwing it out there.

[Ol Deuce]

OK, I don't charge any member to take apart a shock and give them a full report. USPS has a fee flat rate box that you can ship 1-2 shocks for $12.65 flat.

Just throwing it out there.

Cool:beer:welcome::Bounce

[Jmoozy27]

Cool:beer:welcome::Bounce

OD, OF1 know his shiit, he will hook it up old skool!!!!:beer:beer

[Ol Deuce]

On the way LoL
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[Ol Deuce]

Made the swingarm pattern this afternoon and it's off to the water jet people!! should have parts next week '
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[onformula1]

Where does it end?,,, LOL

Very cool.

[Ol Deuce]

Where does it end?,,, LOL

Very cool.

WHen the project looks to be done.......LoL Fenders,seat, and gas tank still to come:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce :D

[Ol Deuce]

Im using the Sx /1st gen R tree on this project , and she is installed !!!
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It's a natural ..... the stops line up Perfect! LoL

[Ol Deuce]

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To cool ! no word yet on the swingarm parts !!! maybe tomorrow !?

[Jmoozy27]

Are you gonna do 200x forks or SX and keep the drums??

[Ol Deuce]

Are you gonna do 200x forks or SX and keep the drums??

Im gonna use the 200x and put a disc on a 6x8 wheel !!!!

[onformula1]

^ Boring the triple clamps out? 1st gen 250R forks are 30mm, all 200X are 33mm fork tubes.

[Ol Deuce]

^ Boring the triple clamps out? 1st gen 250R forks are 30mm, all 200X are 33mm fork tubes.

They work well!!!!

[Ol Deuce]

Forks are done
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[Jmoozy27]

What kinda shoe is going on the front?

[Ol Deuce]

Im thinking a 21 or 22 x ? on a 6x8 rim Not sure May use a radial !!!!! it will look OLD ....!!! LoL

[Jmoozy27]

This machine is gonna be sweet!!! A true classic!!! Can't wait to see more!!!

[Ol Deuce]

Been working on the Swingam today
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[onformula1]

You want to fill us in on the blue stuff hanging out of the end of that tube? LOL


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[Ol Deuce]

It's of the Nylon family! that I use for bushings .so far no sign of ware on what I've made !!! Plus it matches the PIPE! LoL

[onformula1]

It's of the Nylon family! that I use for bushings .so far no sign of ware on what I've made !!! Plus it matches the PIPE! LoL

I use Delrin, but I always have my eye open for different things, I have a different application where that would work perfect.

Would you mind giving me the name or link where it can be purchased. Thank You Milner

[Ol Deuce]

RapidRick had sent me some a few years back ! not sure but he had found this stuff on Ebay !!!! It does work well !!!!

[Ol Deuce]

My chain tightener LoL 219174

[onformula1]

This maybe it-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nylon-HS-Blue-Round-Rod-Bar-4-diameter-x-12-long-Heat-Stabilized/141545635333?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1% 26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D7a41fb836a4a4b378c 132ee279de469c%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%2 6sd%3D141545635333

[Ol Deuce]

I was making the bushings this morning
219175

[onformula1]

My chain tightener LoL 219174

Time to make some new wheels.

[Ol Deuce]

This maybe it-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nylon-HS-Blue-Round-Rod-Bar-4-diameter-x-12-long-Heat-Stabilized/141545635333?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1% 26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D7a41fb836a4a4b378c 132ee279de469c%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%2 6sd%3D141545635333

Big Buck stuff! but it works well!!!!!

[Jwheeler]

Hey Ol Deuce I have blue wheels ready to go. Bearings included . If you are interested PM me. Its looking good the build.

[Ol Deuce]

Bearings for the wheels ???????????????trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotra ilpro;)

[Ol Deuce]

This is how the Nickelson 500 swing arm fits the HPATC frame !!!! Perfect!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_3549_zpscqggxq3w.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_3549_zpscqggxq3w.jpg.html)

[Joseph Farrow]

Imagine that......

[Ol Deuce]

Imagine that......
Who would have known ?????

[Joseph Farrow]

MyMint87 has always said the HPATC folks copied the Nicholson.

[Jmoozy27]

I wish someone else would copy and produce another hundred or so frames and sell me one. That would be cool...

[onformula1]

Bearings for the wheels ???????????????trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotra ilpro;)

Don't those wheels just use Germany Bearings from a skateboard?

[Ol Deuce]

MyMint87 has always said the HPATC folks copied the Nicholson.
they got right on the nuts ! This is a fun project and starting with a tree!!!!!!

[Ol Deuce]

Don't those wheels just use Germany Bearings from a skateboard?

They may ...I need to inspect them!!!! even roller skates ! Hahaha

[Ol Deuce]

Thisis Cool http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chain-Rollers-Pulley-Chain-Tensioner-10MM-For-Motorized-Pit-Bike-Motorcycle-New/321210730078

[onformula1]

^ I am not digging the Chinese bearings

[barnett468]

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RapidRick had sent me some a few years back ! not sure but he had found this stuff on Ebay !!!! It does work well !!!! . . It's of the Nylon family! that I use for bushings .so far no sign of ware on what I've made !!! Plus it matches the PIPE! LoL . . Big Buck stuff! but it works well!!!!!


That is basic unfilled nylon that has been heat stabilized . . I posted some of the specs to it below for you along with some price comparisons . . I added it to a list and comments I had previously made so you have a comparison and a little motre info about similar materials that might be useful to you.


FULL TECHNICAL DATA SHEET FOR NYLON HS . . Specs vary slightly from mfg to mfg . . The mfg below makes the one of the highest quality types and are the inventors of Oilon self lubricating material.

http://www.nylacast.com/nylacast.com/dynamic_files/nylacast_hs_blue.pdf


I have used Delrin and other non metal bushings in many apps, however, I wouldn’t use them for swing arm bearings because they are a bit soft and won’t take as much abuse and I really don’t know where this fad started . . The bronze bushings are pretty hard to beat, and even the old style bronze bushings worked fine and lasted a very long time providing they were greased every few years . . The main problem with them comes from getting water in them and never servicing them . . A set of the old style bronze bushings will last a very long time . . The 954 bronze is far stronger than the old school bearings and will likely outlast a few generations of family . . These are military spec, and are similar to the ones used in the landing gear of airplanes and huge earth movers . . Irregardless, I would make any bushing as long as possible up to a maximum length of 1 1/2”, because the longer they are, the longer it will take for them to wear out.

It is common for the rubber bushings in suspension parts on cars and trucks which will be used in high performance apps, to be replaced with more rigid parts like, Urethane, Delrin POM-H, Heim joints, Needle bearings and/or spherical bearings, to reduce friction and flex . . Most, motorcycle’s, and all ATV’s use bushings or needle bearings in the swing arm . . This is because, on these types of vehicles, especially the high performance ones, it is important to keep the swingarm, and hence, the rear wheel, or wheels, from moving independently of the bike as much as possible . . Imagine if Jeff Wards bike or Wayne Rainey’s 165 mph road race bike had a rear wheel that moved from side to side even the slightest amount . . Obviously this is not as critical on a recreational ATV etc, but I still see no point in intentionally using bushings that not only cause the swingarm and rear wheels to do this, but in most, if not all cases, will wear much faster than metal ones..

If a bushing has to be made, it requires the exact same process to make one out of a “plastic”, as it does to make one out of a metal, therefore, other than possibly a slightly higher cost, and slightly longer machining time, therefore I can’t think of a good reason not use metal for swing arm bushings . . In fact, in many cases, one could use aftermarket needle bearings instead of bushings even if their bike didn't come with them.

The following is a chart I made comparing some of the commonly used materials for bushings . . The Delrin AF and NYLUBE are both “self lubricating”, however, since the bearings will be greased anyway, and these won’t be going in an F1 car, the coefficient of friction number is less important.

I listed these in order of my preference . . I would not use plain Nylon or the Acetal POM-C for this app . . As you can see, the NYLON HS is just slightly better than the ACETAP [POM-C].


.....TYPE ……... Compressive strength …… Dynamic CF …….Hardness …… Tensile …. Wear …….. ME

SAE 954 BRONZE …… 22,000 psi* …………….. 0.37* …. B17/RB83/R156 .. 70,000 ….. N/A .. 14,000,000*
KETRON CM CA30 ….. 29,000 psi ……………….. 0.20 …………. D93/M102 ….. 9,000 ….. 150 ….. 1,250,000
NYLUBE MO .………….. 14,500 psi .……………... 0.12 …………. D85 ……………. 12,300 ……. 32? ..…. 508,000
DELRIN AF [BLEND] .. 16,000 psi ……………….. 0.05 …………. M85/R115 ……. 8,000 ……. 57 …….. 485,000
DELRIN [POM-H] ……. 16,000 psi ……………….. 0.25 ………….. D86/R122 …. 11,000 ….. 200 …….. 450,000
NYLON HS ……………... 14,000 psi ………………. 0.39 ……………..D84 …………… 11,600 …. N/A …….. 478,600
ACETAL [POM-C] …… 11,000 psi ……………….. 0.21 ……………. NA/R86 ………. 8,800 …. 200 …….. 400,000


LEGEND

Asterisk * = Approximate value.

Compressive strength = The point at which a material breaks or permanently deforms by a fixed percentage . . The amount of deformation noted in the materials above is 10%.

CF = Coefficient of dynamic [moving] friction without additional lubricant . . The NYLUBE has oil impregnated into the material.

ME = Modulus of elasticity . . This is the amount of force required to compress a material a fixed percentage . . The higher the number, the more rigid [less compressible] it is.


NOTES

Some of the specs above may vary slightly depending on who the mfg of the material is, however, the chart is a good, overall representation and comparison of them.

SAE 954 BRONZE – This is Military spec and has good corrosion resistance . . The CF number is against mild steel . . It will be lower if the bearing is used against Hardened steel . . With grease, the CF of the will be approximately 0.16 against mild steel and slightly lower against hardened steel.

ASM 4640 Bronze, also known as C630, or CDA 630, or C6300 - This is also Military spec, and is superior to SAE 954, and would work xlnt, and will possibly outlast several generations of family, however, it is a little more difficult to machine and a bit of overkill which is why I posted the 954 instead . . Also, the ASM 4640 should be run against a hardened shaft . . The 954 should be run against a shaft that is as smooth, or smoother, than sanding with 2000 grit paper and water or WD40 for the last cut will produce.

KETRON CM CA30, also called CM CA30 PEEK – This contains 30% Carbon . . The compressive strength is equal to that of the 954 Bronze, and twice that of any of the other materials . . It’s ME is more than twice that of any other material except for the Bronze.

NYLUBE MO – This contains some Moly.

DELRIN AF – This contains 13% Teflon [PTFE] . . Military spec is 20% Teflon.


AVERAGE COSTS FOR 1 1/4” DIAMETER BAR/ROD . . Approximately 6 bearings per ft.

SAE 954 ……………………………… $45.00 per 12” …... 6 bearings ...... $9.00 per bearing.
KETRON CM CA30 PEEK ……. $414.00 per 30” …. 17 bearings .... $24.15 per bearing.
NYLUBE MO ………………………. $130.00 per 96” …. 55 bearings ...... $2.36 per bearing.
DELRIN AF [BLEND] ……………. $50.00 per 12” ……. 6 bearings ...... $8.33 per bearing.
DELRIN [POM-H] ………………… $10.00 per 12” ……. 6 bearings ...... $1.66 per bearing.
NYLON HS …………………………… $25.00 per 12” ….. 6 bearings ……… $4.46 per bearing.
ACETAL [POM-C] …………………. $9.00 per 12” ……. 6 bearings ...... $1.50 per bearing.


LUBRICATION

I would use an extreme pressure grease for any of these bearings in this particular app.

BRONZE – Lithium based grease is best for these types of bushings . . Lithium with Moly is even better . . Two of the best Lithium greases are made by Shell Oil for Aviation purposes and are Military spec . . The straight Lithium is called AeroShell 33 and the second is AeroShell 33M which is the same as the 33 with the exception of the Moly.

Don’t use grease with Graphite or ZDDP with “Yellow” metals like Copper, Brass, or Bronze, because these can eventually damage the bearing,

NYLUBE – Contact mfg for recommendation, although the Lithium greases should be fine . . It is also possible that this material can be run without grease in this app but I would be hesitant to do that, and since this material has Moly in it, I would use a grease with Moly in it as opposed to one with Graphite or Teflon etc . . Silicon base grease may also be ok.

DELRIN AF – Since this material has Teflon in it, I would use a grease with Teflon in it as opposed to one with Graphite or Teflon etc . . Silicone based grease may also be ok.

POM-H AND POM-C – Any of the above greases should be fine.

Mineral oil based grease can damage Polycarbonate bushings.


Here’s small quantities of the AeroShell 33M . . 3 1/4 oz for $4.70

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AeroShell-Grease-33MS-Mil-spec-Moly-Barrel-Nut-Grease-by-the-jar-5-56-223-AR-/201226328606?var=&hash=item2eda061a1e&vxp=mtr

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[Joseph Farrow]

^ I am not digging the Chinese bearings

Item location:

Jinhua , ZheJiang, China

$5.90 shipped from China.....you gotta love it.

The one that Jeff has is a complete wheel and bearing. They will work nice on your tensioner.

[Ol Deuce]

Thanks for all the Info.! my tensioner is NOS ,........But the color of the wheels ?????? I should change them LOL.

[barnett468]

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Thanks for all the Info.! my tensioner is NOS ,........But the color of the wheels ?????? I should change them LOL.

One other product I didn’t mention which is really cool and very durable and not “flexy” is basic Carbon rod with Graphite so I added it to the chart this morning . . Some paces call Carbon rod that has been “Graphatized”, Graphite rod, however, it is really Carbon rod with Graphite and it is not extremely expensive like the Ketron rod I mentioned in my previous post . . Two big mfg’s of it that sell small quantities are listed below . . You can call them for info . . Just tell them your app and they can suggest something . . There are 4 main mfg processes for this type of rod, and the one I would avoid is called “extrusion” . . This is because it is strong in one direction only, and a rod that has multidirectional strength would be better, but of course it costs more . . You would not want to use a pure Graphite rod for anything other than a pencil.

http://www.beckergraphite.com/

https://www.graphitestore.com/stores.asp/cat_id/22



.....TYPE ……... Compressive strength …… Dynamic CF …….Hardness …… Tensile …. Wear …….. ME

SAE 954 BRONZE …… 22,000 psi* …………….. 0.37* …. B17/RB83/R156 .. 70,000 ….. N/A .. 14,000,000*
CARBON GRAPHITE*. 50,000 psi ………………... Low ………………… N/A ……… 11,000 ….. Low …. 4,003,000
KETRON CM CA30 ….. 29,000 psi ……………….. 0.20 …………. D93/M102 ….. 9,000 ….. 150 ….. 1,250,000
NYLUBE MO .………….. 14,500 psi .……………... 0.12 …………. D85 ……………. 12,300 ……. 32? ..…. 508,000
DELRIN AF [BLEND] .. 16,000 psi ……………….. 0.05 …………. M85/R115 ……. 8,000 ……. 57 …….. 485,000
DELRIN [POM-H] ……. 16,000 psi ……………….. 0.25 ………….. D86/R122 …. 11,000 ….. 200 …….. 450,000
NYLON HS ……………... 14,000 psi ………………. 0.39 ……………..D84 …………… 11,600 …. N/A …….. 478,600
ACETAL [POM-C] …… 11,000 psi ……………….. 0.21 ……………. NA/R86 ………. 8,800 …. 200 …….. 400,000


AVERAGE COSTS FOR 1 1/4” DIAMETER BAR/ROD . . Approximately 6 bearings per ft.

SAE 954 ……………………………… $45.00 per 12” …... 6 bearings ...... $9.00 per bearing.
CARBON GRAPHITE* ………….. $30.00 PER 12” …… 6 bearings ……… $5.00 per bearing.
KETRON CM CA30 PEEK ……. $414.00 per 30” …. 17 bearings .... $24.15 per bearing.
NYLUBE MO ………………………. $130.00 per 96” …. 55 bearings ...... $2.36 per bearing.
DELRIN AF [BLEND] ……………. $50.00 per 12” ……. 6 bearings ...... $8.33 per bearing.
DELRIN [POM-H] ………………… $10.00 per 12” ……. 6 bearings ...... $1.66 per bearing.
NYLON HS …………………………… $25.00 per 12” ….. 6 bearings ……… $4.46 per bearing.
ACETAL [POM-C] …………………. $9.00 per 12” ……. 6 bearings ...... $1.50 per bearing.

*Price varies greatly depending on quality . . The price above would be for a slightly lower quality then the one posted in the specification category.


Just for some perspective for the specification chart, a million pounds lbs is roughly the equivalent of 20, 1970 Cadillac Coupe De Villes including driver and a full tank of gas and the ME numbers on the specification chart are in pounds per square inch, lol.
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[Ol Deuce]

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One other product I didn’t mention which is really cool and very durable and not “flexy” is basic Carbon rod with Graphite so I added it to the chart this morning . . Some paces call Carbon rod that has been “Graphatized”, Graphite rod, however, it is really Carbon rod with Graphite and it is not extremely expensive like the Ketron rod I mentioned in my previous post . . Two big mfg’s of it that sell small quantities are listed below . . You can call them for info . . Just tell them your app and they can suggest something . . There are 4 main mfg processes for this type of rod, and the one I would avoid is called “extrusion” . . This is because it is strong in one direction only, and a rod that has multidirectional strength would be better, but of course it costs more . . You would not want to use a pure Graphite rod for anything other than a pencil.

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That's some bad stuff to machine !!!! the guys are using masks!!! Thanks again for all the info .... Ol Deuce

[Jmoozy27]

That's some bad stuff to machine !!!! the guys are using masks!!! Thanks again for all the info .... Ol Deuce

I'll just stick to what works... It's too damn hot to where all of this crap. I hear that friable asbestos is an awesome material for brake pads...:lol:
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=219427&stc=1

[Ol Deuce]

Who needs Brakes..........:crazy::Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounc e:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[Ol Deuce]

I got word today that my swingarm parts are ready to pickup:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce Monday morning I will be on my way to get them:w00t:

[Ol Deuce]

The swing arm is starting to take shape !!!
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[onformula1]

Nice, with that beefy set up you don't need that chain tensioner unless you are running it for nostalgic purposes.

[Jmoozy27]

I may be repeating myself, but that thing looks strong... Built like a brick shitt house!!!!

You may have touched on this, but, what tank are you going to run?? Stock 185? 200s? Plastic? Steel? Something else that I have no knowledge of?.?.?.?.? Just curious??????!!!!!!!!!!????????:beer

[onformula1]

I always liked the look of the 81-82 250r gas tank.

[Ol Deuce]

I may be repeating myself, but that thing looks strong... Built like a brick shitt house!!!!

You may have touched on this, but, what tank are you going to run?? Stock 185? 200s? Plastic? Steel? Something else that I have no knowledge of?.?.?.?.? Just curious??????!!!!!!!!!!????????:beer

Not sure on the tank yet something different !!! thinking the 1st gen R tank or something long those lines!!!!! the plastic will be the 79 to 82 110 !!! if it works out! I want this swing arm to be worthy!!!! it will lower the stance 1 1/2'' and with 18''
tires she should be right at home on the track !!!

[Ol Deuce]

This fitting is to check clearence to the engine! my findings were way to tight ! So I need to mill a spot on the back side of the pivot !!1 this is kinda cool !!

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_2173_zpslvfgpywc.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_2173_zpslvfgpywc.jpg.html)
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My next step is to weld this up ! I'm Happy:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[onformula1]

Are you going to plate the swingarm in on the top and bottom?

I like the flip up on the back of the swingarm, that's how I build mine, it keeps from having a skyscraper/stink bug rear end height.

[Ol Deuce]

Are you going to plate the swingarm in on the top and bottom?

I like the flip up on the back of the swingarm, that's how I build mine, it keeps from having a skyscraper/stink bug rear end height.

Yes it will be boxed with 1'' maybe by the weekend it may be done!!

[Ol Deuce]

Ordered more parts last night Damn $$$$$$$ LoL

[Ol Deuce]

Had to mill some clearance in the pivot !
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[thestud25]

That swinger is beast! I wish I could have got you the OEM one. Love the build!

[Ol Deuce]

That swinger is beast! I wish I could have got you the OEM one. Love the build!

Thank you!...:drool:.. glad you checked in !! It's been tons fo fun !! Thanks again for helping me out way cool!!!! Ol Deuce:Bounce:Bounce

[Jmoozy27]

What's happening with this one Randy? How is she progressing???

[Ol Deuce]

Its been a bit cold in the shop !!! It's ready to weld ! and kinda got messing with the 70 LoL:D:lol::lol::lol::lol: ;) OOps Ol Deuce

[onformula1]

Its been a bit cold in the shop !!! It's ready to weld ! and kinda got messing with the 70 LoL:D:lol::lol::lol::lol: ;) OOps Ol Deuce

Fly down to the AZ. with the swing arm, we can weld all day/night with the Miller TIG, I do have a 4" X 5" ceramic heater, it heats the whole shop!

Hey, Ol Deuce, I need some stickers to add to the collection.

[Jmoozy27]

Its been a bit cold in the shop !!! It's ready to weld ! and kinda got messing with the 70 LoL:D:lol::lol::lol::lol: ;) OOps Ol Deuce

I know how you feel. It's hard to focus on too many at one time. I've had this problem before...

[Ol Deuce]

Been moving forward on my swingarm and it should be complete by /tomorrow .........it is so Squair I'm scaring myself:drool::drool::Bounce:Bounce:Bounce
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[Jmoozy27]

Looking good Randy, it should be strong as hell.

[Ol Deuce]

Looking good Randy, it should be strong as hell.

Ya man............We need that ! No breaking this one thats for sure!!!!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:D

[yaegerb]

hey randy, is that swing arm a "no link"? Just curious because of the bend at the end. If you said it was earlier in the thread, my apologies.

[Ol Deuce]

hey randy, is that swing arm a "no link"? Just curious because of the bend at the end. If you said it was earlier in the thread, my apologies.

This arm is a none link for the HPATC......but for other apps a link could be added! its only a +1 1/2" but lowers the trike 1 1/2"......I also think it would be a great addition to the 1st gen 200x & the 250r!hammer:beer:beer

[Ol Deuce]

Little bit more done !
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[Ol Deuce]

its off to the powder coater !!! LoL 228230

[El Camexican]

At first I thought you left the pivot tube in one piece to keep it aligned while welding, but I see that aside from a window in it you still haven't cut it. It that how it will stay?

[Ol Deuce]

At first I thought you left the pivot tube in one piece to keep it aligned while welding, but I see that aside from a window in it you still haven't cut it. It that how it will stay?

Yes in this HPATC half needs to be open to clear the back of the engine ! when it's installed you can't see that area !!! It does fit well !! for a 200X the pivot tube is closed !! Ill Have it back first part of next week !
this project is almost a roller !!!!!

[Ol Deuce]

228231

She has tobe open !!:Bounce:Bounce

[Mr. Clean]

228231

She has tobe open !!:Bounce:Bounce

Like a Nicholson 500 as well!!

[Ol Deuce]

Mr. Clean !!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce :D :crazy: :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Jmoozy27]

Looking good ol2. Did you rebuild the old shock for that trike?

[Ol Deuce]

Looking good ol2. Did you rebuild the old shock for that trike?

No I bought a pr. of 330lbs shocks 1 I used on the Hpatc 125 and the other on this project ! they seem to be working out well !!! lots of spring!
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I still have the works shock if some one needs it !!!

[Jwheeler]

Nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joseph Farrow]

No I bought a pr. of 330lbs shocks 1 I used on the Hpatc 125 and the other on this project ! they seem to be working out well !!! lots of spring!
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I still have the works shock if some one needs it !!!

How long are they and how expensive are they. Pit Bike?

[Ol Deuce]

How long are they and how expensive are they. Pit Bike?

??14'' long and about a 100 shipped !not bad :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce!!!

[Ol Deuce]

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I'll get it mounted and do a few more "Better" photos

[Ol Deuce]

https://youtu.be/4eYIACtF_Zw
try this

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[atc300r]

Looking great. I cant wait to see this one done. You have the skills.

[manbearpig]

Unbelievably cool Deuce! thats gonna be one of the slickest suspended 185S builds with that swinger. holy cow!!

[Ol Deuce]

Its installed
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[Jmoozy27]

It looks badazz Randy, that thing is gonna be so sweet!!!

[Ol Deuce]

Got her moved to the lift....... axle is in!!:D

[Ol Deuce]

Photo
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[Ol Deuce]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_2845_zpsqdcrjvu7.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_2845_zpsqdcrjvu7.jpg.html)

getting things in order.........

[onformula1]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_2845_zpsqdcrjvu7.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_2845_zpsqdcrjvu7.jpg.html)

getting things in order.........

How do you work in there with that mess of Awesome trikes???

[Ol Deuce]

How do you work in there with that mess of Awesome trikes???
what you see may not always look like a mess:lol: ,but when ya loose things like trikes in plane sight its really time to clean up LoL ..........:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[Jmoozy27]

How's she moving along Randy? Decided on the tank yet?

[Ol Deuce]

How's she moving along Randy? Decided on the tank yet?

It's been kinda parked this year...been doing wife things and getting the '32 Roadster going! but soon I will dig it out and get after it!!!

[Jmoozy27]

It's been kinda parked this year...been doing wife things and getting the '32 Roadster going! but soon I will dig it out and get after it!!!

Right on, I miss this build, still one of my favorites.

[Ol Deuce]

Right on, I miss this build, still one of my favorites.

Thank you ....This one is getting lots of different kinds of work done to her Fun Project..............Ol Deuce

[Ol Deuce]

Time has passed now for 12 months ,I really need to get off the can!!!! I have come up with a plan to get this project
done and on the trails !!!! Mr.Clean & Manbearpig Hahaha any way I'm going to part my 1981 185s conversion to get the proper parts to complete the HPATC 185 .....one part at a time with UPS
makes this project way over the Moon!!! So next week I start this dirty trick taking one down to make the other stand way TALL !!! got to do it guys and parts will be left over!!! The PK Racing pipe, Works shock ,???swingarm,swingarm mounting brackets ,rear axle & hubs..........Hpatc Triple Tree!!

I'll Keep ya posted ............We will get this HPATC going for sure !!!

OL Deuce

[Ol Deuce]

Couldn't wait Took the tank and seat/fender off this afternoon..........its going to be 243031243032 a smooth transition ...

Ol Deuce

[Ol Deuce]

Ya LoL This still is a very fun project !!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:crazy:

Ol Deuce