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Audio_Phill
06-10-2014, 07:51 PM
This Kawi is so different from my honda's its an alien to me lol. $200 In it so far. its all original and complete, and other than being a barn trike its in decent shape. At the moment there is no spark, and compression is low, speedometer shows 1707miles (or KM) I didn't pay close attention. Anyway, its so nice I want the beauty back in action so I'm hoping to restore it. Found the wiring diagram on here, gonna tear into it tomorrow and see what I can find, any ideas on wht to check into as a familiar with this machine issue will be much appreciated.

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jabhonda
06-10-2014, 09:13 PM
On my klt 200 the pulse coil was bad

muthey
06-11-2014, 12:19 AM
disassemble the keyed ignition, on my klt 200 the keyed ignition was corroded and prevented spark and cranking, but mine was electric start only.

afdfirefighter
06-11-2014, 07:49 AM
I have one that I am probably going to end up parting out if you need any parts. It is in good shape and not missing anything. Doesn't run and someone has done some serious troubleshooting on it and labeled all wires. So I would have to test electrical components before selling. Overall a nice trike though. Just have too many projects.

jakep53
06-11-2014, 08:27 AM
I have one that I am probably going to end up parting out if you need any parts. It is in good shape and not missing anything. Doesn't run and someone has done some serious troubleshooting on it and labeled all wires. So I would have to test electrical components before selling. Overall a nice trike though. Just have too many projects.

if you do decide to part it out let me know as I need quite a few parts for mine!!

Audio_Phill
06-11-2014, 03:47 PM
I tore into it today, inside the engine looks good, but with the valve lash it has I'm betting it never got serviced... ever. The Air-filter was the stock, original in it from the factory one and was a little more than powder as bad as it was dry rotted, some of the bolts are so rusted the heads are crumbling, Rust in other places is bad enough that I feel theres no way its set less than 5 years.

I need to know what the pick-up should resistance should be and resistance at the coil. I can test ignition switch, good idea there, didnt even consider it lol. Its rough on the outside, but as nice as it looks inside I'm optimistic it will run fairly well once I get all the kinks worked out. The differential locks in and out so well it surprised me, clutch is super smooth too. Other than front break work (new pads and new cable and lubing pivot points and cleaning, when it fires its ready to go once I get an air filter and change the oil. Even the carburetor seemed prepped for storage. All jets were clear and open, even the little airjets up front were flowing nicely.

I need to know float height if anyone has it handy too, I'm sure they need set after 30 years of gravity.

Audio_Phill
06-11-2014, 03:49 PM
Money on stand-by for a pick-up coil, air filter, coil, front fork loop/brace if its nicer than mine lol front fender if it matches the stripes on mine, and a stator (spare parts are my friend)

jabhonda
06-11-2014, 04:48 PM
good looking trike

big specht
06-11-2014, 05:41 PM
I have two of those bikes all we ever had problems with was cdi's and fuel pumps

Audio_Phill
06-11-2014, 06:07 PM
I have two of those bikes all we ever had problems with was cdi's and fuel pumps

I worry about fuel pump, but hoping its not electric, I see the wiring has a terminal named fuel pump, but when I look it up on the parts fiche it looks like a vacuum fuel pump, and if so Mikuni has some cheap ones!, haven't got that far into it yet. Once I see spark I'll go through the fuel system.

Audio_Phill
06-11-2014, 07:50 PM
NVM, got diff lock working

whipit
06-11-2014, 11:37 PM
did you get that in Wilkesboro NC? I almost went to get it myself. nice!

Audio_Phill
06-12-2014, 12:28 AM
did you get that in Wilkesboro NC? I almost went to get it myself. nice!

Nice on the outside. Yep, Combs PS, They are FOS lol. Tried to say it was running 2 years ago and they bought it at the flea market near there... This trike was in a barn somewhere and had been for a decade or better. Been restoring things for 20 years now and this thing is the worst I've picked up yet. Nice on the outside (plastics anyway) but as soon as the skin came off it was a hole different story :( Everything that could dry rot has and is crumbling. The fuel inlet on the carb even crumbled, the tank vent on the gas tank has crumbled, the bolt that holds the airbox in is crumbling, as are the 4 bolts that hold the tank on top... Motor seems sound other than insane valve lash and an obvious lack of maintenance, its leaking around oil drain plug lol. Chain was rusted solid, sprockets look new and the chain is a modern o-ring type but was unusable. Its a basket case at best. Definitely a negative investment... lol.

Best things about about it are definitely seat and plastics.

Audio_Phill
06-12-2014, 12:35 AM
Guy felt so bad he was selling it he through in an atc70 roller with a 110cc Chinese motor on it that needs completing... lol. Little 70 has busted plastics and rotted tires but the engine is complete and even has the carb and a twist throttle, just needs a filter and the exhaust and fender modded to allow a rearward kick lol I have tires for it, and might get to it next but id let it go for a lil of nothing...

Bungle
06-12-2014, 02:17 PM
I had a klt 200 with a bad cdi so I converted it to run on a suzuki gs 125 cdi. It ran great and started straight away

Audio_Phill
06-12-2014, 02:20 PM
CDI's are findable, still havent diagnosed it, been a busy day and havent got back to it lol

Audio_Phill
06-14-2014, 03:06 AM
Stator seems to be working, pick-up ohms at 460... kinda high but no idea what its supposed to be and it seems to pickup the magneto, figuring spark is cdi or coil both findable. Looking for a fuel pump though and it seems to be the needle in the haystack.

muthey
06-14-2014, 02:29 PM
here's your fuel pump I put one on mine and it works great. http://www.ebay.com/itm/291127161417?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Audio_Phill
06-16-2014, 09:40 PM
found a few others too, not too hard to find a replacement. Figured It would be harder

RubberSalt
06-17-2014, 01:00 AM
For spark, check under the ignition coil. They tend to rust where it grounds out. I believe it's right under the front of the seat/false tank cover. I had mine rust out there caused weak spark. Overlooked it and bought an RM stator CDI (works great!). Original still works.

I've got the 200c, electric start only. I've also got a post with a bunch of electrical and diagrams for these things, right from the book it self.

Audio_Phill
06-17-2014, 02:14 AM
Lucked into a full color diagram, at the moment just trying to find where the timing mark on the case is and whats causing my blowback throw carb :( I'll try that with the coil asap, have it apart atm where I was checking timing and I pulled the stator and inspected it. It seems to have a ton of new parts in it from right before parking. Cam has no signs of any wear, cam sprocket and chain appear to be new, stator is nice and shiny copper, pickup is clean, oil is nice and clear/amber still... Its odd... lol

Audio_Phill
06-28-2014, 03:04 AM
I am beginning to think lke the other fellow on here working on his... Theres currently no market for these, and this thing is in need of more time than I can spare. Anyone interested in parts? Its complete. Might just find an engine that fits in the frame and not fool with getting the old one going.

muthey
06-28-2014, 03:20 PM
I wouldn't say there's no market for them I just sold this 200 for 1200$ about 3 weeks ago. 196511196512196513196514 I used facebook selling pages to sell most of my atv's. Usually sell them in about 4 days that way.