clutch adjustment help please

[DickyDanger]

trying to dial in my clutch adjustment. i'm trying to adjust it on the high gear setting on my transmission because now that i have a new clutch in i would like to use it more than low since its a little more sporty of a ride. i have read and re read the owners manual and just am not sure. the owners manual claims to turn the adjuster screw counter clock wise until you feel resistance then to back it off clockwise 1/4 or 1/8 turn. i have done that and still feel some slippage should i continue turning clock wise or do i turn it counter clock wise, thanks for any help it is much appreciated

[El Camexican]

On the front of your manual does it mention which make and model of trike you own?

[DickyDanger]

Its a 1984 honda atc 110. Im using the manual from 82 I dont have one for 84.

[dougspcs]

There isn't anything more complicated about it..sounds like you're doing it right. Don't reinvent the adjusting process because you are still having a problem.

If it's slipping still there is a reason..

Which clutch did you replace (primary or secondary)? What oil are you using (ATV oil or car)? Did you soak your clutch before installation? Is it a factory clutch kit or a cheapo? Did you use the replacement springs or did you reuse the old springs??

Lots to know to be able to help!!

[DickyDanger]

I put in a complete clutch assembly. I got it used out of a known running atc 110. I simply removed the worn out one that no longer had any grab and replaced it with a complete unit. I only use honda gn-4 in ALL of my hondas. I did not soak the clutch prior to installation. My question that I need answered is what direction should I turn the adjuster stud to make it tighter. Clock wise or counter clock wise. It seems to work ok in the low gear range but when its in low I just putt around when its in high gear range I can feel it start to slip when I get on the gas so any insight is highly welcomed and again very much appreciated.

[DickyDanger]

I just watched a you tube video on free play adjustment of the shifter so im going to start there and see where it takes me I guess.

[dougspcs]

I think you misunderstand the clutch principal and the role the adjuster plays..

The adjuster is only to control the clutch disengage as you press the shifter up and down.

Set it at the recommended 1/4 and forget it!! If you have it set properly it isn't your problem.

[wonderboy]

Your machine has a single clutch unit that acts both as the centrifugal clutch and the shifter actuated clutch, so you only have the one adjustment available. There is a definite possibility that the used clutch unit you purchased just isn't 100% good either...

The adjuster isn't going to make a difference once you get to the point where it is backed off. Backing off additional amounts will simply create more play in the shifter. Backing off of the adjuster screw isn't going to make the clutch grab harder. I'm pretty sure that the clutch on your machine grabs due to the clutch weights being forced outwards from centrifugal force. So, the higher you rev, the harder the clutch should grab.

I'm curious though about the scenario you described. I'd expect the slippage to be worse in low gear. The torque on the clutch is highest in low range, so I'd figure the slipping would be worse than in high range. Are you sure you are getting slipping in high gear? I'm not trying to second guess you, but can you describe more what you are experiencing?

EDIT: I've read the procedure in both the ATC110 manual, and the ATC70 manual and they are slightly different (they are the same style clutch). In fact, in the PDF downloadable version of the 110 manual, there is a scanned handwritten note that says something about the procedure being "backwards"... with that said, here is what the ATC70 procedure says:

1. Loosen the lock nut
2. Slowly turn the adjusting screw counterclockwise until you feel resistance (<-- This is where all the slop has been eliminated between the shifter mechanism and the clutch)
3. Turn the adjusting screw 1/8 turn clockwise and tighten the locknut (<-- The 1/8 turn gives a bit of free play in the shifter mechanism so it is not slightly disengaging the clutch)

[DickyDanger]

I never feel any slipping in low range but in high range in about second and third if I hammer it especially in loose dirt or mud I can feel a hesitation before the tires spin. I also notice this when doing wheelies I can stand on the back bar and when I throttle it up in second gear in high range it kind of revs up then seems to grab and lift the front end. I didnt get a chance to play with it yesterday because the rain is moving in and I had alot of wood to split so I have it to heat my home this winter. I plan to rebuild the clutch I took out of it I just wanted it back up and going so I can continue to go riding with my gf on weekends.

[wonderboy]

I think a careful disassembly, inspection, and reassembly is a good idea. Clean all the parts up and carefully check them over for damage. Let us know what you find.