350X or Tri-Z for street use

[C.J]

Ok. Been doing some research on making one of my bikes street legal because I'm FOREVER getting the cops called on me for riding in my neighborhood. I mean it's so drastic that I had the 450 around front charging the battery so I could go ride the sand the other night, and they CALLED THE COPS BEFORE I EVEN GOT THE BIKE STARTED!!! Cop pulled up and was like 'We got a complaint about someone down here riding a 4-wheeler on the street' I was like sir this bike has paddles on it, no gas AND the battery's not charged enough for it to even TRY to turn over yet. And he didn't believe me so I had to show him.

SO

I was looking into it and unless my bike (quad) is a v-twin I can't make it street legal. BUT I can make a single cylinder trike SL. Sooooooo. I was thinking either one of my Tri-Z's or my 350X. Just to tear around my neighborhood and piss the old a$$hats off and can't get a ticket. Plus it would be fun to drive to Taco Bell or something ya know.

What should I do? Don't have a title for either so a lost title would need to be filed and have to get hotter stators for both and DOT approved tires, turn signals (hence the hotter stator need) and some other things. Which do you think would be easier/more fun?

I was thinking the 350X since it's a 4-stroke, easier to just fill up, more torque to it, better for running just constant revs, can hear it way higher, etc
But
The Tri-Z is a 2-stroke, rev higher, can still be geared high, 2-stroke on the street would be soooo fun, it's a little bigger than the 350 BUT harder to just "full and go", holding it at a constant rpm for a long time, not as much torque, etc.
basically the Tri-Z is a choice because I have a spare roller that was a racer back in the day and I think it would be cool as hell to ride a 2-stroke trike around town because everyone would be staring.

What would y'all do?

[DohcBikes]

If it were me Id go with the 350x.

The tri-z would be cool but you already stated the reasons why the 350x would be better suited. Once you get one street legal its not long before youll wanna go for a longer ride than one tank of gas will allow.

[SUPERBEAST]

i say 350x also

[RIDE-RED 250r]

X3, 350x all the way.

IDK if LA requires inspections on motorcycles like they do here in NY. But here in NY I am pretty sure that the Tri-Z being a 2-stroke made after a certain cutoff year would be disqualified just on that.

If interested I can dig more. Just saying you might run into issues licensing it for the street just because it's a 2-stroke.

[C.J]

X3, 350x all the way.

IDK if LA requires inspections on motorcycles like they do here in NY. But here in NY I am pretty sure that the Tri-Z being a 2-stroke made after a certain cutoff year would be disqualified just on that.

If interested I can dig more. Just saying you might run into issues licensing it for the street just because it's a 2-stroke.

There's a guy on super moto junkies that got his 2-stroke KTM street legal. Forget what cc it was though

[RIDE-RED 250r]

OK fair enough. Different states have different rules. NY is one of the more, shall we say.... "legislatively active" states..... ;)


All said and done, I would still do the 350x. It would be more suited to the type of running you will be doing on the street.

[Jwmajic]

If you goal is to spite the people calling the cops on you a Tri-Z with a nice loud after market pipe would probably work better.

[DohcBikes]

If you goal is to spite the people calling the cops on you a Tri-Z with a nice loud after market pipe would probably work better.
True enough.

So maybe decide if you want a serious rider that you can take on trips and stuff or if you want something more of a novelty.

Once i started riding trikes on the street i sold all the motorcycles i had in phoenix (still got plenty in NE;)). These are so much better for getting stuff done and small store runs, especially if you have a cargo rack(s). Its fun discovering all the things you can do with a trike around the city. Im planning to build a rig to pull project trikes home short distances with my 230ex-r.

[C.J]

At the moment it'll mostly be for spite and for just running a couple miles up the road to the corner store or for running across town and back just to do it. But will more than likely end up taking it out hooning around just cause.

So it's looking like the 350X will be it then. It's got an original Cobra on it so it's plenty loud enough to tick the old people off!

Time to start shopping for parts!!!!! Will probably lower it some in the rear and go with 20" rear tires and gear it high, Vapor speedo/tach, china foot brake light switch and turn signal assembly. Y'all think it will need a battery and hotter stator or ? It wouldn't get rode much at night so the battery could be charged during the day if need be

[RapidRick]

Plated Street Bike Conversion. Do some trading C.J.

[DohcBikes]

I think going with an ATC to start is much cooler.

C.J. if you want a decent lighting system you will likely need to upgrade the whole thing. Idling at a stop light at night the lights barely light up, and youll want a steady 12v for that brake light so a battery and a regulator is highly recommended.

I always use chinese engines that have much stronger charging systems than the old hondas, and regulator rectifiers.

One more piece of advice... if youre gonna ride it on the street, build it just for the street. Yes of course the locked rear axle is going to still perform decent off road, almost no matter how you set it up, but if you keep the street riding in mind while building it you will be much happier with the result.

You might consider 18s on the rear, as there are more d.o.t. approved tires and they are cheaper. I would get the entire bike as low as possible.

[slashfan7964]

+1 on the 350X. That would be one badass machine to see rolling down the streets.

[MojaveRider]

Previous street bike of mine:

192620

'98 CR250 Frame, '87 CR500 engine. 2 strokes on the street are awesome, you get lots of looks. Since neither of these will be terribly practical, I say go all out and use a 2 stroke. In Texas it is pretty easy to get something with a title legal for street use.

[SPD FRK]

Why choose? I say do the 350x first and learn the whole legal process and then, down the road, do the the Z.
You'll have everyone's attention then.

[RapidRick]

C.J. I think you've got some great ideas here, and I'm sure you'll end up with a dynamite machine.

IMHO, I don't think a street legal trike will stop the neighbor's calls to the PoPo. I hope I'm wrong. Good luck.

[barnett468]

I don't think a street legal trike will stop the neighbor's calls to the PoPo. I hope I'm wrong. Good luck.LOL, He does NOT want to stop the calls to the police just yet. He WANTS the people to call so he can show the nice policeperson that it is legally licensed for the street because that will piss them off. The police will then tell the complainers that it is street legal and unless the police catching him breaking some law there is not much they can do unless they have a noise level or nuisance riding law etc..

[Blown 331]

I know every state is different but in IL turn signals are not required on motorcycles. And also in IL if you dont already have a title you are SOL. Only the person who last had the bike titled in their name can apply for a lost title, not just any random person.

Turn signals not required in Louisiana, and also no sound limit.

http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/rights/State-Laws.aspx?stateid=18

[DohcBikes]

Turn signals are not required hardly anywhere, but I still recommend them on the trike. The more legit it looks the better when you get pulled over by someone that is not going to be used to seeing a three wheeler. Trust me, the first couple times they will do their best to find something wrong.

I'm in AZ, and the first time I got stopped the guy was almost speechless. He was so focus on the three wheeler that he didn't see my mirror, my horn, my brake light, or my licence plate. When he got out of the car the look on his face was just bewilderment. He thought for sure I was out of my mind, and when he asked "do you even have any paperwork on this thing?" I could tell he also thought there was no damn way I did.

Pointed to the plate, handed my reg and ins. He starts off with "you know you gotta have amber turn signals and a brake light on that". Pointed to the brake light, showed him my hand signals. Now at this point he's getting embarrassed because he's realizing that he pulled me over for absolutely zero reason other than his inability to look past the fact that it was an ATC on the street.

So he proceeds to make laws up. Tells me I must have a headlight and a taillight. Not true because I haven't ridden in the dark for about five years now so I don't need them. Half hour after sunrise, half hour before sunset, no it was 3 p.m.

Tells me I need turn signals, I said I already showed you my turn signals. He seriously tried to convince me I was wrong, when the last thing I'm ever wrong about is my own bike. He actually had to go look up the statutes.

Short story long, I left that day without so much as a warning, he was completely embarrassed, but still, blinkers would have saved me some hassle that day.

And oh ya, Loud pipes save lives.

[C.J]

Oh yes. My main reason for wanting a supermoto trike is JUST to tick the neighbors off. They called the popo on me for riding in my own damn yard too!!!! I mean, I know it's a hassle for the police and they could be doing a lot better things with their time. But y'all, it's to the point where I'm on a first name basis with 5 deputies. They know my bikes almost as well as I do.

So,,,

18" rear tires? I figured they'd have more in a 20" and thought 20 because it would be easier to gear higher for the speed limits around here (45-55 is average). I'll look into it for sure. What got me thinking about this is some buddies from the QR Forum that live over seas have their zilla's street legal.

I'm still kinda confused on what to do with the turn signals. My head lights work pretty well and are fairly consistent from idle all the way to WOT so I think just the stator would be fine? Or like I said I'll look into adding a small battery to run the turn signals and brake light.

And if I remember correctly in Louisiana so long as we have a bill of sale and the machine doesn't come back stolen we can file for a lost title. The only bike I have a title to is my $650 TRX450ER, but that's because titles aren't a huge deal in Louisiana (when it comes to ATV's)

[DohcBikes]

Find a friendly DMV worker to help you with the title. I wouldn't even mention the street legal plan until you have the title in hand. It may cost you.

As far as tires, again d.o.t. 18s are much more available and affordable. Carlisle golf cart tires work great. Obviously this is opinion oriented, as I actually run non legal 20s on mine, simply because im tire distributor and I can change em whenever I want for cheap. But I still think the 18s are the undisputed long term street legal solution. Gearing is gearing, so sprockets are cheap. I suggest changing the Front sprocket first till you get it in he ballpark, as they are cheaper and easier to change.

Turn signals are definitely optional, just thought I'd mention my story. I still don't have signals on mine. Although I do have electric start and a battery. As far as the headlight goes, maybe a 3 fif hundy has a regulator already, I don't know about their electrical setup.

Make no mistake, these are all just suggestions. But they happen to come from someone that actually owns and rides street legal trikes.

[El Camexican]

There's a guy on super moto junkies that got his 2-stroke KTM street legal. Forget what cc it was though

As far as I know all the 300 and 380EXC KTM's are wired for plug and play street use. The ones some in Europe came with all the on road gear and the ones sold in the USA could be converted and plated in most States.

I hope pissing of the locals isn't your main goal as enough calls to the cops will get you at ticket even if you are legaly plated. Trust me on this. There are laws relating to noise, speed, reckless endangerment, etc. All you need to do is inspire the cops to look them up. If you have any doubts listen to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsEwK69LXjQ

[DohcBikes]

I'm totally with you on that El. Doing it as an offense is probably not a good idea. But this sounds like defense to me.

In this case, correct me if im wrong C.J., it sounds to me like the neighbors are regularly hassling the guy for having fun.

Life is too short to let the fun police determine your way of life.

YAMAHONDAMAN

[C.J]

Yea they will literally call on me for ANYTHING bike related. Like i said, I didnt even get my 450's battery charged enough to TRY and start it and they called on me. Its just one set of people too. The other guy that was calling them on me got a taste of his own medicine when he called them and then thought it would be funny to ride his brute down to my end of the neighborhood to watch them hassle me and ended up getting his bike towed.

But alright, 18's it is! I wasnt sure if there were enough sprocket options to get a good cruising gr with 18" rears but I'll do my research.

And yea, I'm going to have AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE legal on it because i KNOW i will get stopped

[fabiodriven]

Yeah so I can pretty much agree with just about everything that's been said already. Two strokes aren't the best on the road, but especially with less than two cylinders. The twins and up have a much better torque curve and are smoother. I can also attest to what was said about being pulled over. Every time I'm pulled over it's because the officer just didn't see the license plate, lights, blinkers, etc... Same rigamarole as stated, they try so hard to find something but they never do. If I can give you one piece of advise at all, if people start telling you what is illegal and what it isn't, I don't care how smart they are or how well you know them, ask them to show whatever it is they're telling you in black and white. I've yet to have anyone do it. They all think they KNOW (some guys on here;)) for a fact that you can't "blah blah blah" or it's required to have a "this and that". Tell them to show you the law.

The advantage my bike has, which would actually be a disadvantage off road, is the steering neck being higher than a factory built ATC. I didn't build it, I can't say whether or not the builder planned on that, but I will say it seems perfect to me. It allows for better high speed corner carving. Another very important thing you will find out if you don't already know, is the trike steers very much with its rear wheels. Traction in the rear is not your friend, and traction's good buddy "rotational mass" ain't exactly an upstanding citizen either. 18's are the way to go. I run mine at maximum pressure, 32 PSI. I won't delve into the whole riding style I've been developing but feel free to read in my thread about the XR.

350cc's will no longer seem fast if you get out on the big road but it will certainly be fun still. Be prepared for gawkers, people will stop what they're doing to watch you go by.

[Rider414]

350X you hillbilly!!!

[Blown 331]

350cc's will no longer seem fast if you get out on the big road but it will certainly be fun still.

Totally agree on that. I had license on an 82 XL500R and it felt real slow on the highway, especially interstate. Not that you'd probably do that on a 350X.

[jb2wheels]

350X with a loud as heck open megaphone exhaust that rattles windows at idle.

Add a nasty cam to it and everybody will hate it.

I know of a certain white and blue 350X with a cam and chrome DG pipe that is about the loudest thumper I've ever heard. Just at the right frequency, too.

[muthey]

I agree on the four stroke thought process for a lot of riding around town, if you look hard enough on e-bay you can find a led replacement tail and brake light for fairly cheap, and a horn setup as well make sure you have a mirror. and if you are using leds for turns tail and brake you will run about the same wattage's as your oem tail light, here is what a street legal Z looks like for you. I also had to file for what montana calls a bonded title. Requires a legal bill of sale , and not being stolen. I am running a 14t front sprocket a 41t rear from a banshee and 18" rear tires which puts me back around stock speeds but allows me to do over 45mph when needed. I can hear the change in sound of the motor at constant speeds over long lengths, which is why I recommend the four stroke I intend to street legal my 225dx next for that reason.192833192834

[hawaiirider]

Unless it came factory street legal its not going to pass at dmv, you MUST start with a street legal title, your best and easiest way to get a trike on the street is use any dual sport bike, try converting a 350x is a waste of money and time unless your out of the us. alaska you can ride anything on the street just buy a 10$ sticker for the year.

[fabiodriven]

^^^This^^^ is exactly what I'm talking about. A guy from a different part of the country telling you what the laws are in your own state.

I would like to see what law you're referencing in regards to that "can't" please, in black and white.

[hawaiirider]

im in oregon, was in alaska.
i talked to dmv im repeating what they told me.

[hawaiirider]

just trying to help!!!!!
ive been through these hurdles, i have a street trike!

[DohcBikes]

But yet what you said is completely 100% untrue for many states. I'm on my 3rd street legal and not one was a street legal title to start.

[C.J]

Theres a lot of people in louisiana that say you cant do it as well but after my research you CAN,, just cant be a single cylinder quad :-) (guess i should have one of my 450's converted LOL)

[hawaiirider]

thats crazy, i had no idea. well at least i can ride mine across all 50 legally, they re-title it as the year built if you do a dmv conversion same exact as the harley trikes.

[fabiodriven]

Yeah anyone can ride across all 50 once registered I would assume.

[DohcBikes]

I don't know about other states (see how I did that) but if my trike is legal in Arizona where I live, then its legal anywhere I travel to, so 50 state legal as far as I'm concerned.

[muthey]

Actually if I rode my Z down to california or arizona they can write me tickets because mine doesn't coincide with their rules and regulations I believe in Arizona I needed street tires and turn signals, and as far as I read in California all ohv vehicles are illegal on the street

[Blown 331]

Actually if I rode my Z down to california or arizona they can write me tickets because mine doesn't coincide with their rules and regulations I believe in Arizona I needed street tires and turn signals, and as far as I read in California all ohv vehicles are illegal on the street

I wonder how that works exactly though. Take for instance, in Indiana they don't run front license plates on cars. In Illinois front license plates are required. But if you are from Indiana and driving to Illinois, you don't need a front plate in Illinois even though they require them.

[DohcBikes]

Definitely no on turn signals in AZ. Also, no cops here have EVER mentioned tires. If you're running on the street, you should probably run street tires anyway.

ATVs and side by sides roll down the street all day with off road tires. Its widely accepted here. The trikes however are still rare to spot.

[DohcBikes]

Furthermore, once any vehicle is legally titled and registered for the road, its no longer an ohv.

[muthey]

interesting as when I was reading arizona ohv street licensing laws it said they were required to have dot approved street tires and I might have been wrong about the blinkers but I remembered something about them in there, I was checking on it as my inlaws live by bullhead city arizona

[DohcBikes]

Every state requires d.o.t. tires. If you have a STREET trike, I suggest you get some.

I don't run em, ill deal with it if it becomes an issue.

[hawaiirider]

hmmm... all i know is if you try riding that trike here through oregon your not going to make it! same with north and south carolina, it has to have a street title as a conversion certified by d.m.v -. im off the subject, have fun with your trike i just dont want to see other people hassled by police!

[Mr. Clean]

http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=25733

Good information here. It is my opinion that an ATC, made street legal in AZ does make it legal in other states. Just like Helmet laws its up to the state to decide.

However a M/C made into a trike like Fabiodriven's BEAST, would be more likely to be considered street legal. This is due to the dual sport design and manufacturer of the machine is primary on road use. Just my opinion.

From the website:

"An Arizona "MC" plate is registration and is accepted for off-highway operation in California. A vehicle with an Arizona "MC" plate may or may not be street legal in California. In order to be street legal, a vehicle must be designed and tested by the manufacturer for highway use consistent with federal regulations (e.g., legally equipped dual-sport motorcycle)."


Furthermore, once any vehicle is legally titled and registered for the road, its no longer an ohv.

As for what trike I would make street legal it would be the 350x. I have already owned two street legal 350x's here in AZ. I currently have my PK ATC70 street legal. :D

[slashfan7964]

Looks like New York is incredibly easy to get street legality...

http://dmv.ny.gov/driver-training/motorcycle-manual-preparing-to-ride
http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Publications/Traffic_Safety/Required_Motorcycle_Equipment.cfm


_____________


Also:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ytviVzV4mI

Lol at the 6:00 mark. The dude is point at it and telling people "LOOK AT THAT"

[DohcBikes]

I'll actually take the time to find and post the statute that says I can ride my trike right through oregon, or any state while im travelling no matter what you claim. Might take a while but ill get it posted.

I did a lot of research on this before i sold my bikes in favor of the trikes. I don't say things unless I'm sure. I can legally travel anywhere on my trike, of this I am certain.

My trike is an ATC, was never a motorcycle, yet my title, since its been categorized as ON ROAD ONLY states the body style as "MC", as does the registration, and the plate.

The latest build is getting blinkers and d.o.t. tires. I'm not getting any tickets anywhere. And since I plan to ride mine to sturgis this year or next, I'll be able to prove that through at least 4 states in the future.

[atc300r]

I believe that a three wheeler for offroad use in NY state when the serial # is run at the dmv will come back as offroad use.The trike in the video is the one that Fabio has now. I meet the guy that built that trike at Paradise Speedway in 2012 He is a real nice guy to talk to.

[slashfan7964]

Even on it's own tag it said it was intended for offroad use only though. I get the whole "it's not an ATV thing, it's a cycle", but still.

I can see how your argument that you can ride anywhere because it's legal somewhere and legal in your residence can be used but then again whats legal in one state may not be in another. They'll find a way to get you for something me thinks.

It's different with something like a car or actual motorcycle, or a bike converted into a trike. But I would think you'd have a hard time convincing the poh-poh if it was anything other unless your state outright allows it.


I suppose if you really wanted to, you could rig up a frame identical to an ATC frame and then call it "custom" but that's a stretch and a lot of work. It wouldn't be worth it in my opinion.

[barnett468]

This latest build is getting blinkers and d.o.t. tires.

I plan to ride mine to sturgis this year...Well it better get a Harley engine and a good lookin half naked chic on the back too then.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2-rlqVEvjIk/S89D17ReQxI/AAAAAAAAAK0/81NglzVkDsE/s320/fat-chick-on-motorcycle.jpg

:beer

[slashfan7964]

^^^^Should have bought a John Deere.

http://www.mileanhour.com/files/2010/4/thumbs-picdump-mixed-74-079.jpg

[Ghostv2]

Google and a few phone calls could of eliminated 4 pages of amateur lawyers arguing about laws from different states.

A couple good things came of this though, the jury decided 18" tires and a 350x is best.
Plus it gave me something to do, catching up on my afternoon reading.

[barnett468]

^^^^Should have bought a John Deere.Not if you want a REALLY hot lookin chics, because they like Sport Bikes.

http://www.hdridersusa.com/images/sportbike-hottie.jpg



Hi Slash...you should be passed out by now.

. . . . http://www.adrants.com/images/st_paulie_girl_katerina_van_derham-thumb.jpg


OMG...I think I just got a hernia!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing025.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[DohcBikes]

I don't know about any amateur lawyering ghost, but I do see some people making claims that they are obviously not correct about, and some other people telling them of their experiences and research so that the people reading this thread are properly informed about the myths surrounding street legal trikes.

[hawaiirider]

Not if you want a REALLY hot lookin chics, because they like Sport Bikes.

http://www.hdridersusa.com/images/sportbike-hottie.jpg



Hi Slash...you should be passed out by now.

. . . . http://www.adrants.com/images/st_paulie_girl_katerina_van_derham-thumb.jpg


OMG...I think I just got a hernia!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing025.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Im open to trade my dualsport trike for a sport bike now!!

[barnett468]

Im open to trade my dualsport trike for a sport bike now!!OMG! :drool:

[hawaiirider]

OMG! :drool:

that sportbikes pimpin, hes got 2 chicks on back!! gota get a sportbike!!

[barnett468]

.
Another example of Kawasaki's ability to handle almost any load. Kawaaki...makers of the most powerful bikes on earth.




that sportbikes pimpin... ...gota get a sportbike!!

I’m sorry Haiirider but it looks like I’m gonna have to cut you off.

. . . . http://www.adrants.com/images/st_paulie_girl_katerina_van_derham-thumb.jpg




hes got 2 chicks on back!!

That’s only because the big one ate the little one.


. . I think she’s hot.

. . . http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDheK_NT7A9cIdJnV_1Pg7lGbLDWNu5 AVQnY60FToKElt_Wip72n1nHA


BACON...behave yourself!

. http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPVl94GrqAajvACcWSWBuCH4Hr1ehM_ b2Mu35gKuNf00fTPAdNX-Dhgl4


OMG...I need to hit the bottle!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing025.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Tri z250]

I think it would be hard to let out the clutch with that kind of weight on there wow

[oldskool83]

why not just load you bike up like most people do go ride it and stop pissing neigbors off? seems cheaper and quicker solution

[Ghostv2]

why not just load you bike up like most people do go ride it and stop pissing neigbors off? seems cheaper and quicker solution

Selling off all of his bikes is also a cheaper and quicker solution, but making a street legal trike is way more fun.

[DohcBikes]

:lol:^^^^OH SNAP!^^^^:lol:

Sooo, Get in line?

Do as society expects of you?

Well this may not be the best audience for that type of show........

[tommerp]

My 2 cents...

In Michigan, "Three and Four-wheel ATVs Cannot be Used on Public Roads

Three and four-wheel ATVs cannot be upgraded for on-road use. Often called "quads," these are units with handlebars and a seat straddled by the operator."

Straight out of the MI DMV website... So it appears we up here are S.O.L.

[tecaterob]

Their are a lot of 3 wheelers every where. Harley's, custom bikes, Gold wings, VW, and etc... So I don't see a problem with anyone trying to get this done.

[fabiodriven]

My 2 cents...

In Michigan, "Three and Four-wheel ATVs Cannot be Used on Public Roads

Three and four-wheel ATVs cannot be upgraded for on-road use. Often called "quads," these are units with handlebars and a seat straddled by the operator."

Straight out of the MI DMV website... So it appears we up here are S.O.L.

Unless you convert an existing motorcycle to a trike. If you see three wheeled Harleys, you can probably do it. Unless they have something that doesn't allow a live axle.

[tommerp]

Unless you convert an existing motorcycle to a trike. If you see three wheeled Harleys, you can probably do it. Unless they have something that doesn't allow a live axle.

Yeah.. I think you are correct Fabio - But I believe that if the machine, in Michigan, is a three or four wheel ATV, defined to be straddled, was originally sold as and / or built as an off road vehicle, it cannot be converted to an On Road Use vehicle. Harley's were originally sold as On road... I believe that is the difference.

NOW.. as was said before, if you take a dual use motorcycle and convert it to a three wheeler, I would think that it would be allowed.. but again.. I'm no law expert. :)

[czac]

...But...But... Arent trikes Illegal??

Sorry, I couldn't help myself!

So if a vehicle is registered, street legal in one state, it wont be considered the same in another state? So at any time, any state can just write in some law that say, Blue cars are illegal and start ticketing out of state drivers driving through with blue cars? What about driving on the highways? I don't have a front plate on my truck although CT has a front plate law but I was told by the dealer where I got the truck from, if there's no front plate mount, you don't have to display one... and I have yet to get hassled over it.

[tommerp]

On the flip side, if your state does not have a helmet law and you ride into a state that has a helmet law, you will certainly get a ticket for not wearing a helmet..... regardless if your state requires them or not. It's messed up and so many different rules for different states..

[hawaiirider]

Just convert a dual sport! its fully legal and if you get pulled over they cannot stop you from riding it, its just easier and less hassle to go the dualsport route..

[czac]

On the flip side, if your state does not have a helmet law and you ride into a state that has a helmet law, you will certainly get a ticket for not wearing a helmet..... regardless if your state requires them or not. It's messed up and so many different rules for different states..

But doesn't that fall under some different law? like seat belts? Some sort of safety thing while driving? I don't think you NEED a helmet to register your vehicle, Just to ride it.
So what's the biggest thing that makes it illegal to register a ATC than to register a converted motorcycle? Is it jus a matter of wording? Off road Vs. On / Off road written on the title? Im sure the "Off road use only" is there because its not sold, ready to ride on the street. Quads too... V twin? WTF? what different does that make? lol some times all you can do is scratch your head and wonder why...

[AbnMike]

I second, or third or whatever the 350X. I love 2strokes. I rode a 1964 Vespa 2-stroke kitted out to 225cc from Portland OR to Coney Island NY in 2006 and while it was great fun it did get some attention by cops in the mid-west who weren't sure I should be on the roads. It was plated, registered and I had a MC license though so they let me go. They said "Just don't take it on the Interstate, a scooter is too slow." I said "But it will hit 90 mph and cruise all day at 70." Cops couldn't believe it and followed me as I ran it out on a state road (I made them promise they wouldn't give me a ticket if I exceeded the limit). I got it up to about 85 and they flashed the blues, I slowed, they pulled up to pass me laughing, shaking their heads and giving me a thumbs up.

Also rode a Yamaha RD350 from DC to Cincinnati and back and again, while I love two strokes, that buzz just gets to you eventually (not that you'd be riding a trike for those distances).

Bonus of a 4 stroker is you don't have to run out of oil in your oiler and seize up at 65mph.

Good luck in getting it on the street. I'm working on getting mine on the street here in Montana. I know four wheelers can be plated and ridden because they're everywhere, but haven't seen a 3 wheeler on the road yet. Waiting on the title to come back so I can start the process.

[DohcBikes]

Lots of speculating going on here now from people that don't have street legal trikes. This is why everybody thinks its so tough to get this done.

The inexperienced rumors are more difficult to overcome than the actual registration process in most states.

[tecaterob]

Just convert a dual sport! its fully legal and if you get pulled over they cannot stop you from riding it, its just easier and less hassle to go the dualsport route..

I agree ......

[DohcBikes]

Ya, because its so much easier and cheaper to buy a dual sport bike and build a trike conversion than it is to register an ATC that you already own :rolleyes:

[barnett468]

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Hey beav...I wonder if we can put a Longshen motor in the neighbor kids tricycle and get that street registered.

That's a stupid idea b head...the tires aren't DOT approved.

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Holy cr_p!
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:beer

[hawaiirider]

Ya, because its so much easier and cheaper to buy a dual sport bike and build a trike conversion than it is to register an ATC that you already own :rolleyes:
im not the smartest guy on earth but i do know its easier to show your title and reg to the cop that says -assembled- than try to argue your point to a police officer, dohc you my friend WILL find that cop who wont let you ride it, just watch
the only place to tell a cop hes wrong is at court with a ticket in your hand, ill stick with the LEGAL dual sport route

[DohcBikes]

Has anyone here ever been asked to show their TITLE to a police officer if their vehicle had a license plate on it..:wondering

That would be very difficult for most people, because most people dont carry their titles in the vehicle.

My title says MC. So, a title that says ASSEMBLED is better huh? ok, ill take you r word for it. :crazy:

My licence plate says MC. My registration says MC.

The place to tell a cop hes wrong, is wherever the hell hes standing when hes wrong.

[Ghostv2]

Has anyone here ever been asked to show their TITLE to a police officer if their vehicle had a license plate on it..:wondering

That would be very difficult for most people, because most people dont carry their titles in the vehicle.

My title says MC. So, a title that says ASSEMBLED is better huh? ok, ill take you r word for it. :crazy:

My licence plate says MC. My registration says MC.

The place to tell a cop hes wrong, is wherever the hell hes standing when hes wrong.

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[350for350]

here's my $.02. Back around 2001, I checked into the whole street legal atv thing here in Kansas. There were a couple of Raptors running around with DOT tires and license plates where I worked. I called the Highway Patrol (aka State Troopers) and was told that if it has four wheels, it's considered an automobile. If it has three wheels its considered a motorcycle. He also said that he didn't recommend doing it at all. Of course that was his opinion. I didn't go any farther on the subject as my project quad didn't turn out like I had hoped it would. A couple of years later a friend told me that Kansas was changing the laws so that street legal quads couldn't be reregistered. I didn't check on it. In my opinion, trikes didn't fall under that since they are "motorcycles". I know this doesn't help sort anything out, but it just shows another state's differences. Besides, who knows how far C.J. will actually get on this one. He seems to have ADHD or something. He's trying to work on a lot more projects at once than I am. Just kidding C.J. You seem all right to me!

[czac]

if a trike were registered by the state as street legal, why would a cop question it? He'd be writing a ticket for nothing. I mean, he'd pull you over, ask for your license and reg. maybe insurance card, then if he had any doubts, he'd call it in and it would be confirmed that it was legal... I don't get what the argument is? If some cop stops you and says its illegal even though it isn't, then he'll ticket you and in court you can make him look like the stupid F***er he is. win-win for you! lol Its like with the open carry gun law here in CT. the state had to issue a letter to the police officers telling them not to go arresting everyone openly carrying a gun cause a good number of them did not know we could open carry...lol (goes to show you that theres way too many laws and the cops cant keep up with them!)

[atc300r]

A former neighbor of mine got caught driving when he was under age and lost his driving privlidges till he was 21.He moved to Conneticute when hes was 17 and got a lisence in that state.When he would come and visit me the local police would stop him and give him a hard time but they couldnt do anything unless he moved back to NY.Also side x side (other than the Razr)atvs like,Polaris Rangers,Yamaha Rhinos and such could not be registured in NY and legaly ride on the trails but if they where out of state registured they could be run on the trails.This was a big issue couple years ago for the Snirt Run.I think the law has since changed.

[barnett468]

The place to tell a cop hes wrong, is wherever the hell hes standing when hes wrong.

Don't tell me I'm wrong you fat stupid cow. Your registration isn't valid for street use so stay off of MY highway!

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[hawaiirider]

Don't tell me I'm wrong you fat stupid cow. Your registration isn't valid for street use so stay off of MY highway!

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good luck on that,
and for the assembled title thats what you get to show it was a motorcycle, same as a harley or goldwing. It wasnt legal converted to a trike until i had dmv inspect it and re-title it as a assembled trike - it MUST be inspected and retitled, maybe not in your area, your lucky.
i see alot of people who dont have street trikes voicing there input, i OWN one so im not voicing input, im telling you what has happend with me riding it

[C.J]

why not just load you bike up like most people do go ride it and stop pissing neigbors off? seems cheaper and quicker solution

First picture: My house and the entrance to my riding area

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(I can't go up the dirt road/entrance to the left of my place because an old man throws nails and screws across the dirt road because he is convinced it's his property when in reality it belongs to the same people that own the riding area,,)

Second picture: The neighbors that I've been having all the problems with

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So loading my bike up, driving my truck 3 minutes around the neighborhood, unloading the bike, and leaving the truck parked there while I ride all day isn't that bad of an idea in theory but in practice it's not that smart. Last time we did that with our Jeep we came back to loosened lug nuts on all 4 tires,, the luck nut's being the only tight ones left.



Plus also: Street legal trike, man!!

Another 350 came up for sale for $1000 here local and may go pick it up to make it the SL piece. Or will probably just use my black 85



350for350 - "Besides, who knows how far C.J. will actually get on this one. He seems to have ADHD or something. He's trying to work on a lot more projects at once than I am. Just kidding C.J. You seem all right to me!"

This is a sad truth. We've got well over 30 bikes, only 12 of which are resto-built so far. And then now we've had a bunch of shiz going on with the city next to us trying to tell us what we can and can't have in our yard. It's just a lot of BS going on. This is something I REALLY want to do though so hopefully this will happen. And yea,, I've got ADD like CRAZY man!

[Ghostv2]

You got some psychotic neighbors. May the force be with you. I also only have to travel a block or two and I hit a trail but I live in a sleepy old coal mining town surrounded by mountains and the only thing to do here is go out the mountains so everyone owns bikes. Riding on the streets to get to trails is the norm here. I think we only had cops out here once because my neighbor would ride wheelies up and down the streets.

My dads a cop and he rides his 3 wheeler on the street just like everyone else has to, if we don't be reckless and annoying nobody will call the cops.