Check out these LED lights I Found

[Xowner]

These suckers are Badass, I have two flood lights and one of the bars that is a spot light. They come from the http://www.online-led-store.com/off-road-vehicles-lights-equipment-s/1858.htm Came with a all stainless mounting hardware and a stand that allows it to be adjusted up or down.

Picture of lights Will get them in the morning forgot them tonight.


The two small floods are projected to Put out 1600 lumens at 18W EACH! And there available is either spot or flood

I also got to take pictures of the weather pack connectors that they give you with each light.


Picture of lights Will get them in the morning forgot them tonight.

The one 6 inch bar is rated at 2800 Lumens at 36w And also available in either spot or flood.

This picture is of the two fogs
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z119/Xowner350x/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzEyMTguanBn_zps5a21f863.jpg


This is of the spot light
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z119/Xowner350x/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzEyMTcuanBn_zpsee4df1a7.jpg

This is them together
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z119/Xowner350x/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzEyMTUuanBn_zps8dd95057.jpg

Here is a Picture where we are taking pictures
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z119/Xowner350x/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzEyMTkuanBn_zps9f57523f.jpg

Here are the sealed beam headlights on my pickup truck.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z119/Xowner350x/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzEyMjAuanBn_zps61cd5a17.jpg

Here are the leds washing out the headlights almost completely the headlights on the truck
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z119/Xowner350x/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzEyMjIuanBn_zpsd504f3d7.jpg

[Xowner]

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z119/Xowner350x/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzEwNjEuanBn_zpsdab79346.jpg


Here is a picture I took of one of the spot lights inside of a stock Triz shroud.

[JasonB]

that looks similar to what josh (mts) is running in his Z. very cool, i like them

[just ben]

that looks similar to what josh (mts) is running in his Z. very cool, i like themjust what I was thinking.
I think Josh paid a fortune for his though.

[Xowner]

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I suck at PDF's but here are the sizes and such if you wanted to mount them in different shells.

The think that kills me is the amount of light they put off for the amount of watts they pull. Think about a 350x The lights on them are what 30/low and 35 on high? Two of the spots are 34watts and the light output is amazing.

[kb0nly]

Nice looking lights. I have a set of 27w LED's on my 200ES, 2160LM each, one is a flood one is a pencil beam, gives me really good light a long ways ahead and to the sides of me. Really nice for plowing snow in the winter and buzzing around in the summer.

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[JasonB]

nice set up kb! how do run those, is there a switch inline or do they run when the bike is on constantly?

[dizasterzrfun69]

That the beauty of LED lights honnerlaw. Very very bright and dont use crap for power. Thats like my stinger flashlight i had at TF.....that thing is only 1 led light bulb and its brighter than most spot lights!

[kb0nly]

nice set up kb! how do run those, is there a switch inline or do they run when the bike is on constantly?

I wired them into the headlight in place of the high beam on the stock bulb. So when i have the headlight switch on low beam its just the stock headlight, basically like a daytime running light to meet the DNR regs here in MN of having lights on at all times. But when i need extra light in the dark then i flip the headlight switch to high beam and the stock headlight shuts off and the two LED lights come on.

Its worked out great!

[Dirtcrasher]

Most race trikes are AC output to the lights. The SX and B Reds etc have a rectifier for 12V DC output.

Apparently AC works just fine as shown in the Tri-X headlight??

[kb0nly]

Depends on the lights... Some of those offroad lights can take AC or DC with ATV use in mind... But if the lights are DC only a simple rectifier can be wired in. The lights i have can take 10-30v DC.

[NeverLift]

Xowner,

Are those the 4" off road lights you have? How are they after you've had some time to use them? I just ordered a set one spot one flood.

[Richieyzf]

I was only saying to my brother the other day about trying to fit LEDs in my TRI Z headlight surround! Remember seeing a sweet YFZ 450 in dirt wheels mag (all black plastic with blue frame?) with a led bar on the front. Fancied doing it ever since then!

[lokisbuddy]

TY so much brother... I have been wracking my brain as to how I am gonna power two lights in a 350x headlight on my 200x I think im gonna get two of the 18w bars, do those have highs and lows lmao maybe I can rig up some blue leds to accent my engine for the low beam and for the high beam I will hook up the headlights.

[Flyingw]

I just bought four of those for my SX. Two for the front and two for the rear.

[Flyingw]

These are the ones I found on Ebay. They even have a 24 MOUTH warranty!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181271485897?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[jb2wheels]

A few months I bought an 18W bar (6 LEDs) to fool around with in the garage.

I always assumed the AC system on the ATCs would not run these lights but, after seeing X-Owner's rig in OK and the massive Cyclops bar on Gary's 600X, I tried out my 18W light on the 350X and the TRX70.

Both run the light with no problem.

I plugged it into the tail light connector on both the 350X and the TRX had neither had any problem running the light even with the headlight on.

The TRX uses a stock TRX70 lighting coil but I added generic, 2 wire, 12V "dirt bike" regulator when I wired up the lights. It has a 55W halogen work light for a headlight and an LED marker light for a tail light.
The 350X lighting system is completely stock.

So, I bought a 27W round light for the TRX and a 14", 72W 14" light bar to run on my Tecate when it goes back together. I might get another 72W bar to add to the 350X. Looks like there's a good spot under the stock headlights.

All lights still in the mail but I should have some mounting and results in the next week or so.

[jb2wheels]

The 350X runs the 72W bar and the TRX runs the 27W light - I just plugged them into the tail light until I make some tabs/brackets.

[Flyingw]

I received my lights and got the front ones mounted. I'm waiting for the mounting brackets to arrive for the rear. They will be on a separate switch. I be all lit up and stuff!!!!!!!!

[jb2wheels]

Jim - it's hard to tell from the pics - how are you mounting those? I'm not too proud to copy ideas...

[Flyingw]

Here you go Jon. I scoured Ebay for a clamp type light mount and found these. The clamp is hinged so I didn't have to take my front end apart to install the mounts. The clamps came with a spacer ring which was too small to I tossed the ring and cut a piece of rubber I had and it was perfect. When tightened down, the clamp is nice and firm. These clamps do come in different sizes for the ID.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261382389230?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

[Flyingw]

The rear light are going to be mounted to the grab bar between the bottom of the rack and the top of the grab bar... I hope. The clamps I found for the rear swivel 360deg at the mounting head. I hope they show up today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161262673861?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

[jb2wheels]

ooh those are fancy thanks!

[NeverLift]

Got mine installed on the 400ex this weekend and they are fantastic. 1 is a 30 degree spot is a 60 degree flood.

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[jb2wheels]

That's what I bought for the X & the R - a spot and a flood for each. I need to make time to mount them this week...

Not enough days left before Rampage. I'm on an LED bender.

[Losurdo]

So what I'm gathering from some of this is I can run this on my 84 200x by putting in a regulator or just simply running it off the light or through the tail light?

[Flyingw]

On the 83-85 200X its not that simple. The 200X uses the main harness wiring and the front and rear bulb filaments to regulate the power from the lighting coil. The 200X has a lighting coil that puts out 68w watts at 5000 rpm. The headlight is a 60/60 and the tail light is 5 watts meaning the load on the lighting coil is 65 watts anytime the lights are on leaving only 3 watts left in the power budget. If you exceed the power budget, you run the risk of burning out your lighting coil. If you were to replace your headlight with an LED light say an 18 watt light then that would drive up the voltage on the lighting circuit. The 185/200 series engines that are not electric start are not very friendly when it comes to adding or subtracting lights on that circuit. To work right and keep within the operating current, you need to keep your light load at about 65 watts. Now with that said, some LED light assemblies have a working voltage of 12-36 volts so you would need to calculate the working voltage with any given LED light installed. It may work, it may not. The output of the lighting coil varies depending on the RPMs and it ranges from about 12.5 VAC to about 50 VAC. This is where the harness and bulb filaments come in. They keep the voltage capped at around 13.6 VAC. If you burn out the headlight bulb lets say, the voltage spikes up usually taking the tail light bulb out. So you see its not a yes or no answer here.

[Losurdo]

Wow thank you for that details explanation I got some math to do:D bit say if I throw in a regulator I would still have to match the voltage to be around 65 no matter what I run? Could I run 2 18 watts to bring it up or not I'll have to do the number any ideas :p

[Flyingw]

The regulator you typically see on the 250R, 350X, and late model 200Xs is really not a regulator. Its what's called a shunt. Its job is to take any voltage over 13.6VAC and electrically dump it overboard so to speak. You can wire one in and it will keep peak voltage capped. The other component you have to factor in here is amperage. If you take the total wattage and divide it by the working voltage and in this case lets say 13 volts, you get roughly 5 amps of current draw on the lighting coil in the stock configuration (65/13=5). In theory, you can install a regulator and as long as you don't exceed the 5 amp limit, you can run other light configurations.

[Losurdo]

Ok cool ill figure some stuff out I appreciate the help:) I'll message you if i have any question if you wouldn't mind:p

[Flyingw]

Don't mind a bit.

[Frankencelery]

All right....I wanted to be cool like you guys, so I ordered some too. :p

Like some others did, ordering one of each of the 18w spot and 18w flood seemed like a good combination. Since my Tecate is back up and running now, I would like to have some lights for it. Now to find a nice headlight and kill switch combo. Where did I see one of those?

[jb2wheels]

I read all of Jim's info. It gave me a headache. I'm a simple guy.

I'm bolting on the 72W bar along with a "shunt" 2 wire regulator and stock taillight and crossing my fingers!

[Flyingw]

What trike Jon?

[The_Steve_Man]

Jon just put a battery in like I did. Lol

[Flyingw]

I finally got the brackets for the rear lights. I like these mounts. Very versatile. Took it outside just now. I'm all lit up and stuff. I put the rear lights on a switch I mounted to the left front rack bracket.

[jb2wheels]

What trike Jon?

The Tecate is getting the 72W bar because it has no headlight.

If I have time, the X and the R will each get an 18W flood and 18W spot. IF...

[jb2wheels]

Jon just put a battery in like I did. Lol

That actually was my original plan - just to run a battery total loss for the lights.

But then I observed/figured out they'll run on AC and now I want to try it.

[Frankencelery]

I just got mine too. I was somewhat unimpressed with what they did to make a spot into a flood. They use frosted glass! Okaaaay....

I see that some of you are using much larger light bars, and I can now see why. They really aren't as bright as I'd hoped. With the Cree R5 flashlights we have around, I guess I assumed that these emitters would be just as powerful, but they're not. I also think maybe I made a bad assumption. LEDs typically generate more lumens per watt than incandescent bulbs, but from the specs that came with the lights, They must be 18w *equivalent* rather than 18 watts of power. The spec sheet that comes with them says that the CRLB06 uses 1A @ 12v, and then in the next column says Output Wattage is 18w. Must be that Chinese math, because that's not the way I learned to calculate wattage. I'll try them out in the dark tonight, but I now see why some of you are ordering 72w bars.

[jb2wheels]

I was impressed with the 18W lights on Xowner's quad and The_Steve_Man's 250R when i saw them in OK last month. I wonder what's different?

None of my flood lights have a fogged lens. Looks like the LEDs are mounted differently in the housing.

[Flyingw]

I looked at hundreds of light when I was shopping and some did have frosted lenses. I guess to diffuse the light.

[Frankencelery]

I was impressed with the 18W lights on Xowner's quad and The_Steve_Man's 250R when i saw them in OK last month. I wonder what's different?

None of my flood lights have a fogged lens. Looks like the LEDs are mounted differently in the housing.

They might be, but the fogged lens makes it hard to tell. I bought mine from online-led-store (actually their Ebay store) just like Xowner did. Here's a pic:

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[MNhondaguy]

I've installed a few bars on golf carts and trucks. 4 footers. Cost a few hundred dollars. And damn they are bright, well worth the money if that's what you are looking for. I am skeptical of the cheaper eBay ones, but you guys are having good luck with them so I imagine I will as well. We will see.

[Frankencelery]

Update on my adventure: I was excited to post some good news, but I wanted to wait until I got my 2 18w lights mounted on my Tecate to take some pics. I hooked them up the other night on a 12v power supply, and I had been far too harsh on the output. The output was actually quite good, practically lighting up my whole front yard, so I decided to proceed.

Today I got them mounted to the Tecate and then wired through a heavy-duty 10-Amp bridge rectifier. I know someone said they would run off AC, but I didn't want to risk damaging them. Anyway, fired up the engine and they lit up, but were very flickery until I revved up the engine a bit. Then they went steady for about 1 second...and then winked out. Further troubleshooting found one of the lights had become a dead short across the leads. It was the flood that failed. After taking that one out of the circuit, the spot still works. I'm not sure what to think. Obviously, I'm sending the flood back for replacement. These LEDs are supposed to handle up to 30v, but I wonder if that 80w Ricky Stator lighting coil may have just dumped too high of a voltage into these lights with only a 24-watt load. Any thoughts on this?

[Flyingw]

I'd say unhook the other light and put a meter on the tap and see just how much voltage is coming out of the stator at high rev.

[jb2wheels]

I've got the 72W on the 85 Tecate with a plain old 2 wire regulator.

It behaves as you described - flickers at idle and lights up constantly once I'm off idle.

Curious to see how long it lasts running AC and flickering.

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The X and the R are not getting theirs - I'm out of time for fab work. :(

[Flyingw]

Now that's a light!!!

[Frankencelery]

I'd say unhook the other light and put a meter on the tap and see just how much voltage is coming out of the stator at high rev.

Great idea. Did that, and here's the results:

Post rectification, No Load- 10vdc at idle, 40vdc revved up.
Post rectification, Halogen Car Headlight attached- 5vdc at idle, BLEW the headlight revved up!!!!
It's not hard to speculate on what took out the LED headlight. Damn.

So this RS stator is out of control. Looks like I'm going to need to find a regulator setup for this thing.

[Flyingw]

Yep, that's what I was afraid of. The LED lights have a narrow threshold on the high side. A regulator/shunt is required.

[The_Steve_Man]

Holy crap Jon! Are you leading tje night rides ? Where did you put the battery?

[Frankencelery]

Yeah, I'm thinking about using http://www.rickystator.com/catalog/voltage-regulator-p-85.html, and then putting my bridge after it. jb2wheels, you're braver than I, using only the AC regulator. I'd be afraid that the lights would blow from the reverse voltage. However, mine DID blow, and yours haven't!

EDIT: I forgot to add...I know they make regulator/rectifier combos, but those seem to require you to float the lighting coil, and I don't really want to take that apart again and mess with it. My thoughts are that the AC regulator will bring the voltage under control, and the bridge will give me more or less DC. All I would have to add is a capacitor to smooth it out, but I have no idea how big a cap I need. It's been 25 years since electronics school and I've forgotten how to do that calculation.

[jb2wheels]

I'm curious to see how well it works at night.

I was inspired by Gary's 600X. This Tecate had no lights at all when I got it so it was a good candidate.

No battery - running off stock Tecate lighting coil with a 2-wire regulator added.

I only paid $55 for the light. That's about 1/4 what I had invested in a dual Hella setup on my 200Xs and I was never really happy with the light. Once I saw the AC lighting coils running my 18W light with no immediate issues and the lights on the 600X and Xowners 400EX. If I burn it up, I'll try something else.

[Afrothunderkat]

Just ordered a 100w "xenon" bulb for my R, the 65w "xenon" i have in now is bright but for $2, can't beat it!

Would love to hook up some 20w cree LED's in my R some day though.