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Trucker200X
12-28-2003, 10:56 PM
Well I have had my 83' 200X less than 2 weeks now and I am so addicted to how you can just slide and throw around Trikes that I need a faster one. I am starting my search for a CLEAN, STOCK 250R "I" can build into a Banshee eatin' mofo...I am kind of wanting to start doing a search for the parts I am going to put on it...Anyone got any suggestion where to find performance parts for these? By the way it will be a 85-87...Here kind of what I will want to do to it...
+8 or 10 Swing Arm
Carb
Intake
Cam
Gears
Lower it? (How is this done?)
I don't want to Bore it unless abosoulty needed...Any other suggestion on my quest to build this? If the Nitrous set up works well on my 200X it will be transferd over to the 250R...Thanks for any help guys...

YTZ250#1
12-28-2003, 11:30 PM
If you can find a good cam for an 87 atc 250r it will cost an arm and a leg :-P

ATC crazy
12-28-2003, 11:34 PM
'87 250R :D

Cam in a 250R... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Gooood luck

BigGreenMachine
12-28-2003, 11:55 PM
Funny stuff. He must mean the "four-stroke" version 87 250R. :rolleyes:

J.D.
12-29-2003, 12:22 AM
Tucker my boy I think you have much to learn. a 250R has no valves, cam, etc. It's a 2-stroke. A 2-stroke operates off the piston, cylinder, and head. A 4 stroke uses the valves, cam, cam chain, head, piston, cylinder.

sandrooster
12-29-2003, 02:40 AM
Maybe Trucker is looking for the rare 3-stroke twin.
One cylinder is a 4-stroke and the other runs by 2-stroke. Both cylinders are connected to the same crank.

I'm not joking. This has been made to test the combination idea.

YTZ250#1
12-29-2003, 08:20 AM
Maybe Trucker is looking for the rare 3-stroke twin.
One cylinder is a 4-stroke and the other runs by 2-stroke. Both cylinders are connected to the same crank.

I'm not joking. This has been made to test the combination idea.


I would like to see 1 of them.I never heard of anything like that.

Trucker200X
12-29-2003, 08:48 PM
Well sounds like I am a moron and have much learning. Please explain more on how these "2 Strokes" work...I would like to know as much as possable...Cars and Trikes are TWO different things I guess...Well thanks for the clear up...Just give me more info...

Trucker200X
12-29-2003, 08:50 PM
Also..As far as the 87' goes...I don't know if you guys are being sarcastic or not but as far as I know and have seen they were made in 87'?...There is actually 2 of them in my local CycleTrader for sale...Also saw it on here...

350XXX
12-29-2003, 08:52 PM
all of the 87 atc 250R and atc 350X were cut up and never sold. if you find one buy it cause its worth a ton!

CHAINSAW
12-29-2003, 08:53 PM
Man you guys are hard on the new fella.. lol

Trucker. Its obvious you've never owned a 2 stroke, or 250R. I suggest just keeping it stock, or look for a stock one. You wont be dissapointed... trust me. You gotta crawl before you can walk bro!

Wickedfinger
12-29-2003, 08:56 PM
If the Nitrous set up works well on my 200X it will be transferd over to the 250R...Thanks for any help guys...

HHHmmm ... nobody found this statement even a little curious?

TRI-Zbrian
12-29-2003, 08:57 PM
2 strokes also have a crap load more power per CC then 4 strokes if you are looking to go fast get a 2 stroke you are in the right direction wanting to get an 85-87 R but you will never find an 87 R trike if you do you are the luckiest person on here :twisted:

also when a 2 stroke blows up its alot cheaper to rebuild being you dont have to replace cams valves and such all you do on a 2 stroke is get a clean bore and new piston and rings and gaskets and you are all set unless you blow up the botom end then that is a different story.

but over all you get alot more power for your money spent when you are dealing with a 2 stroke and they are alot more simple to work on i can rebuild a 2 stroke top end with my eyes closed i can also rebuild a 4 stroke but its a bit harder because you have to make sure you get the engine in time while doing it and there is alot more little trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro to go rong in the top end of a 4 stroke but 4 strokes do tend to last longer if taken care of. 2 strokes will also last a long time if taken care of but people tend to beat the snot out of 2 strokes making them blow up alot more often

Trucker200X
12-29-2003, 08:57 PM
Hmmm...I am gonna go check out these 87's that are for sale and see what they are...Yeah stock is okay, but it also isn't fast...

CHAINSAW
12-29-2003, 08:59 PM
When the ad says 87 250R.. they are referring to the TRX.. the quads.

CHAINSAW
12-29-2003, 09:00 PM
Hmmm...I am gonna go check out these 87's that are for sale and see what they are...Yeah stock is okay, but it also isn't fast...

Like I said.. you havent ridden a good stock 250R. Its fast enough it would hurt your inexperienced little ass, I promise you that.

TRI-Zbrian
12-29-2003, 09:06 PM
yes you coming off of a 200x will need nuthing more then a stock 250R trust me it will scare you the amount of power they have and when it gets on the pipe it will rip your arms out of there sockets dont let the 250 in 250 R mess with your head your 200x puts out like 14 hp and the R puts out like 3 times that amount of power it being a 250 doesnt meen anything because its 2 stroke remember that they are a hole different strory heck a 125 2 stroke dirt bike would scare you coming off of a 200x and on top of that a cr 80 dirt bike even puts out more hp then a 200x the x at 14 hp the little 2 stroke cr 80 puts out around 20 something.
so maybe that will put you more into perspective of how much better 2 strokes are on power delivery. i could have explained this better but this is about as simple as it gets 2 strokes put out way more power per CC

and yes i used to own a 200x so yes i know what i am talking about and now that i own my tri z well my second one i will NEVER go 4 stroke again :twisted:

CHAINSAW
12-29-2003, 09:12 PM
listen to brian.. he knows what he is talking about.

Trucker200X
12-29-2003, 09:27 PM
Yeah, I know about the power difference...I know they are fast too...I have owned a 90' KX80, and a 94' CR250...Never really thought about how the engines worked though...So I would like to know...The reason I don't own these bikes anymore is because life happend...Got a kid, and then a wife...lol...So now I got to have cheap toys...Thanks for your guys help...also How is it that all the 87's were cut up? When did the law to ban Trikes take place? If it was in 87' wouldn't the Trikes already be out? Just curious...I am NOT trying to be a smart ass...Cause I know you guys can be bigger ones...just wondering is all...

Tri-Z Pilot
12-29-2003, 09:36 PM
Yeah, I went from my 200cc (195 actually) yamaha blaster, which is a two stroke, and I thought, what can 50 more cc's do (51 actually). Let me tell you, I got a rude awakening, the tri-z I rode was basically stock, except for a pod filter , and it had no rear brakes or grab bar,(the same one that I now own) needless to say, I cracked the throttle like I was riding the blaster, and I flipped the trike completely back, (no grab bar), and got a pretty good case of road rash. I have learned to not underestimate a machine (especially a trike), and to get used to the machine before I ride it balls to the wall, so if you get a 250R, be sure to take it easy, Thee who underestimates the untamed beast, might as well buy a casket, because you will be deceased! I added that because I think it is kinda catchy.

CHAINSAW
12-29-2003, 09:44 PM
a few 87s makes and models made it to the public.. but not much. that info can be found on the main page where it says quest for 87 ATCs I dont know all the info, so I wont mislead you.