View Full Version : 1984 ATC 200X MX Racer Update 5/18/14 Westcoast Swinger Installed
Mr. Clean
10-09-2013, 12:40 PM
After the last MX race at Cahuilla Creek in Anza CA on a 350x, I decided to build a dedicated 200X Racer.
I got this 200x to race but it was too nice for me to build.
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So Mrs. Clean, YES Mrs. Clean went out and fetched these 2 200x's for me to build my racer.
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Tear down was last weekend.
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Last week had the frame blasted to bare metal, painted with epoxy primer and Urethane paint.
This past weekend I got EVERY piece of OEM hardware out of ~70 pounds of zinc plated hardware installed awaiting parts to bolt on. (THANKS FLYINGW!!!)
Polished triples and fork sliders.
86 200x Hub blasted and painted red
Sweet Fork Brace
Polished Yamahondaman fork caps!!
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Got an extended axle from Frank Destra in Cali. Is this a finishline axle?
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Last night installed the 10 inch front rim/tire and white 250r Maier front fender, more pics to come.......
atc300r
10-09-2013, 01:05 PM
I think your axle is a durablue.I have one just like it for an 82 250r.I was told mine was a durablue.
yaegerb
10-09-2013, 01:11 PM
Very nice Mike! Glad to see you joining the 200x racer club :)
What's the plan for the engine mods?
Mr. Clean
10-09-2013, 01:32 PM
Very nice Mike! Glad to see you joining the 200x racer club :)
What's the plan for the engine mods?
THANKS!! and thanks for the deal on the supertrapp!!
The motor will be an evolution, No time for much in the way of mods by next weekend, so I am going to just go XR200 carb, and that exhaust. Over the winter I am going to save up and build a sweet bullet.
Mr. Clean
10-10-2013, 10:19 AM
DG Swingarm
10 inch xowner rim with ohtsu quad tire.
Preston Petty number plate.
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atc300r
10-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Wow thats going to be one nice looking racer.I think the 200x in full race mode has a mean look to it. Your DG swingarm is only the third one Iv seen. I have one and another member on here has one.
kzr800
10-10-2013, 02:03 PM
I like it, keep the pictures coming. I would love to build a 200x like that.
Ghostv2
10-10-2013, 02:29 PM
Thats going to be one sick bike. Even better that its a first gen, more aftermarket options. Probably cheaper too.
Your one brave man though doing this in such a short amount of time.
Mr. Clean
10-11-2013, 09:59 AM
Polished Mossbarger Intake
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yaegerb
10-11-2013, 09:59 AM
Polished Mossbarger Intake
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Very nice!...I can't bring myself to polish my NOS mossbarger just yet :)
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I dont understand how its possible that you can find one, but I can't...
Seniority I guess...:lol:
Mr. Clean
10-11-2013, 05:53 PM
I dont understand how its possible that you can find one, but I can't...
Seniority I guess...:lol:
It just showed up in a box of parts from Sand Diego (Thanks manbearpig!!!)
Looks like I've been PMing the wrong people lol
If somehow you dont use it... I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands
oldskool83
10-11-2013, 09:04 PM
like your colors, reminds me of my worked 200x
can i interest you into this front end mr. clean lol!
Dave8338
10-12-2013, 02:32 PM
Looks like a GREAT project. Can't wait to see it all come together.
badass350x
10-12-2013, 11:53 PM
Wow mike very nice! I'm jealous..:beer
Poco Loco
10-13-2013, 12:26 AM
That looks clean Mr. Will it be at Cahuilla on the 20th? Hope so I want to see that beaut in person.
Mr. Clean
10-15-2013, 10:15 AM
That looks clean Mr. Will it be at Cahuilla on the 20th? Hope so I want to see that beaut in person.
I am trying to finish it up for the 20th, got a couple major items I am awaiting. I will be there with something to race.
Here is the X as of last night. I need to get the axle refinished but wanted it off the jack and on three wheels.
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yaegerb
10-15-2013, 10:18 AM
you will have the exhaust on Friday. Its ready to bolt on and go :)
Mickey Dunlap
10-15-2013, 11:32 AM
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atc300r
10-15-2013, 12:35 PM
I love it so far.Like I posted above these 200x racers are mean looking.Good luck at the races.I hope you get it done in time.
Rigaman
10-15-2013, 12:57 PM
You guys with your rare race parts make me so jealous!!!! That dg Swingarm is sweet!!! Nice build! I can't wait to see it finished.
atc300r
10-15-2013, 01:17 PM
I have my DG swingarm mounted with the same axle.I set mine up for flat track racing. At the track we race at we are trying to get a 200x class going.179023
atc300r
10-15-2013, 01:19 PM
What rear hubs you have on there .
Mr. Clean
10-15-2013, 01:26 PM
What rear hubs you have on there .
400ex. I bought the DG from ATC ADDICTED. It popped up a couple days after I made the decision to build an MX racer and I pounced!
bumsted200s
10-15-2013, 01:43 PM
Like how it's turning out so far, looks good on the ohtsu's and 10" front. Hopefully the rest goes together easy.
Brian
my wheelers:
1981 Honda 200 5 wheeler
1982 Honda 200 Hondapotomus
1982 Honda 185S
1982 Honda 250R
1984 Honda 200S
1985 Honda 200S
1985 Honda 200X
yaegerb
11-11-2013, 01:58 PM
How's this coming mike?
Mr. Clean
11-11-2013, 05:59 PM
How's this coming mike?
Waiting for low pro fenders.
I had the durablue axle sent off for zinc plating. So the plater screwed up and chromed the axle, and proceeded to mess up the first two-three threads for the axle fade nuts. Have to find someone local who can re-thread.
Ordered the rear tires/wheels, should be here soon.
I got sidetracked with another trike.....will post pics of it soon.....
What did you go for as a choice in tires?
Keith Salyer
11-12-2013, 07:10 AM
Did you say that Flying W was sending you new to you plated nuts and bolts? The build looks great..
RodKnockRacing
11-12-2013, 10:16 AM
Wow very nice build love it
manbearpig
11-12-2013, 10:53 AM
Polished Mossbarger Intake
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is that the NOS one i sent you?? turned out great!!!
Mr. Clean
11-12-2013, 11:40 AM
I sent him about 70 pounds to have re-plated.
Did you say that Flying W was sending you new to you plated nuts and bolts? The build looks great..
is that the NOS one i sent you?? turned out great!!!
Yes it is, now I just need to build the motor!!
yaegerb
11-12-2013, 01:04 PM
Hey Mike,
If you are interested, I have two fully rebuilt carbs that I am getting ready to sell.
The first one is a 24MM stock Keihin (blasted, fully rebuilt,comes with intake manifold, all gaskets, basically a bolt and go.)
The second is a 26MM Keihin carb (blasted, fully rebuilt, all gaskets, no intake, but I can tell you which intake works for that carb to bolt to the 200X. Its a nice upgrade). I can also jet these to your specifications prior to sending them out if you are interested in purchasing one.
oscarmayer
11-12-2013, 03:53 PM
he needs a 28-30mm carb. You can get 30mm carbs cheap off ebay. even some 28mm are not too bad. they are D/flat slide carbs so little different than round sliders. You would have to do some jetting work to get it to run the 200x. but a good carb will help a ton. if your stick do not go -past 26mm if you do not stroke or BB kit it, then stay at 28mm with porting, cam and more. if you do a stroker+BB and punch to a 235+cc then go to a 30mm carb.
yaegerb
11-12-2013, 04:38 PM
he needs a 28-30mm carb. You can get 30mm carbs cheap off ebay. even some 28mm are not too bad. they are D/flat slide carbs so little different than round sliders. You would have to do some jetting work to get it to run the 200x. but a good carb will help a ton. if your stick do not go -past 26mm if you do not stroke or BB kit it, then stay at 28mm with porting, cam and more. if you do a stroker+BB and punch to a 235+cc then go to a 30mm carb.
I understand and I have no idea the mods that he will be performing to his engine. I just figured if he was interested in having a fully rebuilt OEM carb that fits with his engine profile he could contact me. Mike, apologies for the digression.
oscarmayer
11-13-2013, 12:32 PM
^ i was not referring to you, i was just offering up some info. sorry if it came off that way.
*this does not mean we will hug, hold hands and sing kom-bye-ya now around a camp fire.....*
Mr. Clean
02-10-2014, 01:34 PM
Had the axle chromed and they messed up the threads. So I spent about 2 hours wire brushing, picking chrome out of the threads and fixing the damaged ones. I then ran a couple old axle nuts with grease on and off until they seat fully. I am happy to report that its all happy now. The only issue is some of the chrome chipped.
Installed the rear brakes on to help keep the axle still when fixing the threads. Going to need a new brake line, maybe a 250r would work, will need to get one out of inventory.
Mounted up the front brakes as well and everything is happy there, will need to detail the master cylinder and install reservoir guard.
Currently I have 86-87 hubs on the rear axle and its wide. Will work with the setup when I get the final rims/tires. Might run first gen 200x hubs.
So little to do and so much time.
yaegerb
02-10-2014, 01:56 PM
Looks awesome mike!
manbearpig
02-10-2014, 02:00 PM
cant wait to see what you do with the motor!
jsmay
02-10-2014, 06:06 PM
looking great!
Mr. Clean
02-23-2014, 10:14 AM
cant wait to see what you do with the motor!
The first iteration will be basically stock, cause I am out of money and time.......for the Ides of March national race.
Engine installed, exhaust mounted, carb mounted, wiring installed, foot pegs/ kicker / shifter / case saver/ blasted/painted installed.
Installed the Ohtsu R 901 Tires with Mitchell wheels.
Lots of hours of detail work done.
Today I need to finish up the rear brake pedal and linkage, and the paint the master cylinder. Need to get on the interweb and order a handful of things.
Keith Salyer
02-23-2014, 03:12 PM
Looks fantastic
jsmay
02-23-2014, 04:01 PM
That really looks great, congrats!
slashfan7964
02-23-2014, 04:14 PM
Looking good!
lokisbuddy
02-23-2014, 07:22 PM
The first iteration will be basically stock, cause I am out of money and time.......for the Ides of March
Installed the Ohtsu R 901 Tires with Mitchell wheels.
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Your rears look very similar to mine but mine said douglas wheels and they had a dwt.190 sticker on them was I lied to or are they one and the same.
Your rears look very similar to mine but mine said douglas wheels and they had a dwt.190 sticker on them was I lied to or are they one and the same.
Mitchell rims are just OG Douglas rims from my understanding. Mitchell became Douglas
SeaBass8
02-24-2014, 09:28 PM
Really nice build. Well done!
honda200x1987
02-25-2014, 09:37 PM
Fantabulous build ! That racer even has a tank cover,sweeeeeet!
Mr. Clean
03-10-2014, 12:30 PM
Have rear number plates decals coming and need to get another custom made rear brake line. Note to self, both banjo's need a specific bend before making the line. Other than that, pretty much ready for next Saturday.
Huge thanks to Chris at PRM. He hooked me up on a sweet deal for the engine skid plate, swinger skid plate and desert grab bar. They even welded on the number plate mount.
The stock swinger skid plate that PRM offer's only required some spacers and two new holes drilled to mount to this DG. Top quality products for sure!!
Purchased some decals from blue27, His repro decals are awesome quality.
13/36 Sprocket setup. Got a 36 tooth aluminum rear sprocket from Sprocket Specialists. I got a 35 tooth Helm & Son from shortline10 for a 200x and it would not bolt on!! Turns out this durablue is for a first gen 250r!
Got the front sprockets from Rocky Mountain ATV, primary drive 12 and 13 to swap at the race, and an o-ring chain. I run these chains on everything I own, very happy with them.
Installed the rebuilt rear shock from Suspension 101. George went out of his way to help me out.
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Sprayed the underside of the rear fender with some single stage urethane automotive paint. :welcome:
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Keith Salyer
03-10-2014, 12:51 PM
That is a very cool X indeed. Great Job..
JasonB
03-10-2014, 12:53 PM
damn dude! that is one SHARP 200x!!!!! well done
jsmay
03-10-2014, 09:48 PM
That looks really nice man, congrats on a job well done.
aldochina
03-11-2014, 12:42 AM
thats a pretty bad arse 200x! Great job on it clean!!
atc007
03-11-2014, 07:40 AM
Lol,,took the words right out of my mouth Rory. Straight up BA. Fun bike for sure. ..Keep your eyes peeled for mine please Mike, lol.
atc300r
03-11-2014, 08:21 AM
WOW trike looks great. Cant wait to here ride/race report.
Mr. Clean
03-17-2014, 09:57 PM
WOW trike looks great. Cant wait to here ride/race report.
The 200x ran flawless at the race this past weekend. The wide axle was perfect, I was able to drift corners and not worry about the inside tire. The more I rode it the more comfortable I became. I found the limitations of the suspension and need more motor for sure, but all told the 200x is a worthy machine to race. I had zero seat time on a 200x prior to this race and look forward to upgrading and continuing to tune this thing every race.
This trike was built to race and be ridden and I rode it hard. This evening I got the chance to clean it up, and for me that is part of the process of maintenance for these amazing machines.
Looks great!
The question is.... did you WIN?
blue27
03-17-2014, 10:12 PM
Very nice, glad to hear it ran good!!!
Mr. Clean
03-17-2014, 11:04 PM
The question is.... did you WIN?
Tough answer for me to reply to so I will employ the two traits I think are most valuable in life, tact and humility.
I am a very humble person who values the opportunity to race trikes over winning the race.
Inherently people who race any type of motorsport are "in it to win it", but for me that type of mentality will quickly move trike racing the wrong direction.
I have pretty much come in last place in every race I have run on the 350x and had a smile on may face the whole time, maybe won my class as a party of one, but overall last.
There were many classes. I was in the stock up to 240cc novice on a bone stock 200x that I never rode anywhere but around my neighborhood. I had one other guy in my class on an 86 200x and the two other 200x's were in the intermediate class.
Also in our class we were racing two R55 fully suspended "70's" with 192cc engines, they were first and second overall in both races. First moto I came in second in my class, and fourth overall in the race. The second moto I came in first but third overall, so I won my class, but I did not "win". Sunday I won only because I was in a class by myself. Not much to brag about in either case if you ask me. Did I have the time of my life yes I did.
I did work very hard in the second moto to pass the guy on the 86 200x that beat me in the first moto. Chasing him in the first moto I could tell his stamina was dwindling. He also raced in another class so I knew going in that if I kept him in sight I could pass him. I did manage to pass him and have the sequence of photos. In some crazy act of God Mrs. Clean actually captured the moment. It was rewarding to set a goal and achieve it all while being humble and keeping what I am doing in perspective.
yaegerb
03-17-2014, 11:09 PM
Glad to hear the bike ran well Mike. Very classy post. Good work sir!
slashfan7964
03-18-2014, 12:15 AM
Turned out sweet bro!
Keith Salyer
03-18-2014, 12:21 AM
Good to here. By the way the track looks awesome .
jsmay
03-18-2014, 09:22 AM
Sounds like my kinda racing!
atc300r
03-18-2014, 09:45 AM
Congrats. Great job racing your trike. Awsome first race report. I bet the trike was a real headturner out on the track. When I race first priority is have fun and be safe. If I trophy is cool . Again great job on the build and the race.
atctim
03-18-2014, 11:52 AM
Gotta say I love your stance on racing! If we all had that mind set, less people would be having conflicts in our beloved sport. Props to Mr Clean on this beautifully awesome vintage 200X race bike build! Just Awesome!
Ol Deuce
03-18-2014, 03:53 PM
Wow Mike Your X is a classic Racer Looks really good ,and glad to hear it ran flawlessly ....Did Mrs.Clean get a "Video" of Mr.Clean in Action??? Ol Deuce
Mr. Clean
03-30-2014, 11:09 AM
Did Mrs.Clean get a "Video" of Mr.Clean in Action??? Ol Deuce
The Mrs. did not think we had the gopro, turns out it was in the camera bag the whole time!!
So I raced yesterday at Arizona Cycle Park with four other trikers. This track is not nearly as nice as Cahuilla Creek in Anza, but its 1 hour away to race.
They put us out first right after watering and of course it was Mudfest. I figure they do this to make the track slick for the trikes and to get us to sweep the corners for the next 8 motos.
After the first moto
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After about thirty minutes with a pressure washer it is clean and ready for the next race. I have to say the decals from blue27 continue to impress me. They are showing no signs of wear from my boots or the debris being kicked up.
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Xowner custom 10 inch rim, cleans up nice and continues to look great!
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Mr. Clean
03-30-2014, 11:16 AM
Some action shots.
blue27
03-30-2014, 11:36 AM
Looking good!!! looks like a lot of fun.
Louis Mielke
03-30-2014, 11:55 AM
Is it a eastcoast vs westcoast thing that all the tracks on the westcoast are these huge sweeping tracks that look like you're doing little more than trail riding at high speed and eastcoast all the tracks are short and look like they're designed to kill people purposely?
Man I wish we had a track that looks that nice and smooth.
Mr. Clean
05-04-2014, 07:39 PM
In some crazy act of God Mrs. Clean actually captured the moment.
The R55 trikes up front and me and Ryah in the background. He and his Dad were super nice!!
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Side by side jumping the table!!
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Ol Deuce
05-05-2014, 10:09 PM
Thanks for the Pictures ...
Mr. Clean
05-11-2014, 06:07 PM
Picked up a Westcoast swinger couple weeks ago, got it painted yesterday and decals installed today.
Jheezy7
05-11-2014, 07:49 PM
:drool:That things beautiful...can't wait to see it on..
Keith Salyer
05-11-2014, 08:32 PM
That's glossy also. Is that automotive grade basecoat/clearcoat.
Ol Deuce
05-11-2014, 11:00 PM
:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce This is one cool Thread.........Thank you for all the Pictures & Information.........mymint87 Tehehe
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Mr. Clean
05-12-2014, 11:57 AM
That's glossy also. Is that automotive grade basecoat/clearcoat.
The paint in this case is automotive grade single stage urethane, Sherwin Williams brand.
slashfan7964
05-12-2014, 02:25 PM
Wow that red looks awesome.
Mr. Clean
05-19-2014, 10:34 AM
Installed the Westcoast swinger yesterday. Picked up a heavy duty shock as well and need to send that and the front forks for upgrade/rebuild.
ironchop
05-19-2014, 10:38 AM
I want the one you have for sale BADLY but I just spent my entire atv budget for the month three days ago to get ready for TF.
Oh the HUMANITY!!!!
Ol Deuce
05-19-2014, 09:28 PM
Red is a good color for the swing arm !! it really makes it flow!!!
Installed the Westcoast swinger yesterday. Picked up a heavy duty shock as well and need to send that and the front forks for upgrade/rebuild.
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