3 to 4 Conversion

[DoomOnYou2]

I hope I dont start a mob or something here but I was wondering if anyone still made conversiion kits for the hondas. Did they ever make them for the Tri-Z? Ever since I saw that dudes 250$ Tri Z before and after I am leaning more towards the yammie even though it is a weak motor.,

[hondatrikesrule22]

There was a post on here not too long ago...it was a Tri-Z.Its caled "another 3 to 4 conversion".The kit costs like $1200.I don't know about the honda kits.

[ATCRYDER]

Don't waste your money. Its irresponsible to do so and its just not worth the money you'll shell out to do it. If you want a quad, buy a quad.

[TRI-Zbrian]

TRI Zs do not have weak engines the only people that say that are die hard R fans i dont see anything rong with them the only thing rong with them is there not power valved and if you do the yz250 cylinder mod they are major powerhouses.

[wolfspider]

i`ve had both tri z and 250rs all good ones and there is very little between them, there both awesome trikes, which ever you choose you won`t be disapointed.
i`ve even had an 86 tri z quad conversion (sorry guys) and it was sweet, really well balanced, your choice, good luck. :-D

[Lots_Of_Nothing]

i have a tri-z, used to be my main machine a couple years back, but i killed it hardcore and im done with it, the Z's are WEAK compared to R's, it was a nice machine, but nothing comparable to the R

(just so you know that not only die hard R fans say that)

[CHAINSAW]

Ive had Rs, and Tri Zs also. Maybe one of the fastest non-big bore gas 250Rs around. Notice I dont own anything but yamahas now?? Im a power junkie, and let me tell you, the Tri Zs are not short on power. Sure a 16 year old magazine article says they are slower, but you wont be dissapointed in one at all... I promise you. R's have their advantages, but dont let anyone knock Z's!!! They were way ahead of their time on many things!!! :-D
The only, ONLY downfall I see on the Tri Z.. no counterbalancer. If the didnt vibrate at all, like the R's, I wouldnt even bother messing with another honda in the future.
I guess it just all depends on what your gonna use your machine for. Each person has their own preference.

[TRI-Zbrian]

lol yeah you tell them chain saw :twisted:

[smokinp]

I cant believe that anyone would want to rune a trike by putting a 4th wheel on it :rolleyes:

[DoomOnYou2]

I was comparing the Z to a Tecate. I have never ridden a Z or an R for that matter but my first atv was a stock 86 T-3. And man was it mean. And I was going by what someone said on here about having a highly modified Z and a stock T-3 and that the Z couldnt touch it. If the Z is almost on par with an R then I know it cant hang with a Tecate. Either way Im not too concerned with its power too much as long as it makes a decent amount. I want a Z because in my opinoin they have the best styling of any 3 wheeler ever. Gotta get one. Anyways, thanks for all the replies.

[CHAINSAW]

If they told you a highly modified Z couldnt hang with a stock T-3, they were smoking some good $#!t.. Stock for stock, all 3 machines were pretty close. You have to keep in mind availability of parts also

and as for the best styling.. your right. The gas tank under the seat was a genius idea. For jumping, the Tri Z out performs the other two hands down.

[TimSr]

TriZ conversion, and it belongs to me.
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=15538

As far is this silly fallacy that the TriZ has a slow weak motor compared to the others, all I can say is you probably read too many magazines, and dont spend enough time riding.

Ive only ridden one Tecate, and it seemed pretty close to the R in its powerband and handling. Compared to the Z, Ill give the R a little more top end which is defined as how much power the engine delivers at high RPMs (and has nothing to do with top speed). As far as low end, which again, to those who continuously misuse the term, is how much power the motor delivers at low RPMs, the TriZ has way more low end. Throw on a cheapo DG pipe, and it will chew up and spit out any 250R in the low end dept with the pipe of your choice.
Weak motor? Who wants to go hill climbing with me?

[Jeb]

Well I have a mod'd Tri-Z and a Stock 86 KXT. My Z is absolutely NOT slow but the KXT edges it out. The KXT is quicker and revs out forever compared to the Z. Part of my problem with my Z topping out is it's tires. 18" rears but I have a 14 tooth front sprocket to compensate some. Who cares about top speed, acceleration is where its at. and the KXT rules. If both trikes had fresh motors, There is no doubt in my mind that if my Kaw had comparable mods to my Z, it would chew it up and spit it out even worse. The Z motor does have more lowend power. Which I like. My 84 KXT had about the same mods as my Z. On topend, the 84 was unreal!

If your used to an 86 KXT, don't expect to get the same feeling from a stock Tri-Z. You will enjoy the added lowend but it may feel flat on top. Another thing is the handling. I hate to say it, but the 85 just doesn't handle as good as a KXT. You probably remember how your Tecate craved slides. My 85 Z doesn't perform like that. I know nothing about the 86.

With that being said, I still recommend you pick up the Z. They are great trikes and second on my all time favorite list. You'll like it. But PLEASE don't turn it into a 4 wheeler! :shock:

Of course, this is my opinion of MY trikes. I love Tri-Zs. And I don't smoke. :D

[Ace Mon]

They are 1290 $ out of the back of dirtwheels . Its an outfit out of L.A. The front plastic is identical to Tim Sr.'s . Not not pretty but functional .

[DoomOnYou2]

I may have to resort to that kit but if I can help it im going to try to graft the front end of an 03 Blaster to a Tri Z. No point in doing it at all if it aint pretty. Thats the whole reason I decided to use a Z.[/img]

[REDMAN225]

i'm with timsr. :-D

[TimSr]

The kits are long passed. If you are seriously interested in something like this, the easiest and cheapest way is to get an old Blaster, and drop a TriZ or old YZ Motor in it. Its almost a drop-in boltup. The only real fabrication necessary is with the exhaust, and the whole project could run well under $1000. One 3-4 coversion kit is more expensive than buying a quad, and it make little sense to convert one, when you can have one of each for less money.

I had ever intention of doing the Blaster project, even saving a complete Banshee front spindle and braking system to put on it, whan I happend to stumble across the Quad-Z for sale with the Astro conversion already done. Today the conversion actually reduces the resale value of the trike.

If you find one well done, they dont sell very high, and Id recommend buying one. I would advise against making one.

[Dan Tenn]

I just cant understand why someone will spend more time, and more money to make a crappy quad. If you want a blaster, go buy a blaster. BTW, the conversion wont perform as well as a blaster (if you were to swap front ends). It just seems to make much more sense, to buy a quad if thats what you want.

Sorry for the rant, but it just seems so obvious.

[CHAINSAW]

If you have a running Tri Z.. Ill trade you my blaster with a YZ motor. Dont ruin a perfectly good Tri Z.

[Jeb]

If you have a running Tri Z.. Ill trade you my blaster with a YZ motor. Dont ruin a perfectly good Tri Z.


Amen to that! I agree you should get a cheap Blaster, running or not. Remove the Z engine and drop it in the blaster frame. Leave the Z rolling chassis setting. You'd have much less work involved in mounting the Z engine and radiator in the blaster frame than hacking up a perfectly good Blaster and more importantly the Tri-Z and trying to graft them together. :shock:

Whose ever yellow Z is in that hacked up picture, man those RAZR tires look awesome on the back! I was thinking about picking some up for my 85 R in the near future. I truly hope that is not the Z you would think of hacking up!

[Kilborg]

Must...clear up......misinterperetations.....
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The Z is best at jumping? HAW HAW!!!! The R absolutely outperforms the Z as far as handling goes in just about any situation, jumping included. The Z has a steeper rake, and the turning is affected by that slightly. The 250r had far better suspension then the Z or the KXT, and thats all there is to it. The Z was easier to balance flying through the air, but thats the only thing I would give it over the 250r.

Power wise, stock....Z wins lowend, R is the midrange, Kxt's ran topend. The 250r was the best all around motor and right in between...with the Z and the kxt running about +/- 2hp. All 3 of the motors have greater potential then the majority of riders can use in anything but a drag race.

[DoomOnYou2]

People people people, Its not the point of having a Blaster with a Tri Z engine . There are so many people who taken a Z engine and put it in a Blaster, but how many people do you know of that have taken a complete Z and made it into a very well handling 4 wheeler that aslo has looks that can compare to modern 4 wheelers. I dont want a blaster, I want a Quad -Z. ;)

[Tri-Z Pilot]

I have seen a banshee with a tri-z engine, it was used for 250 mx, it was pretty sweet.

[deathman53]

you are in the wrong place to talk about converting a trike, there is so much better opitions out there, buy trx 250r rolling chassis(around $1000), put your z motor, electronics in and you are set. then you have a real quad, not a hacked up trike. Or, GROW A SET OF BALLS AND LEARN TO RIDE THE TRIKE and you will love it.

[Tri-Z Pilot]

Yeah, I agree, for the price of the 3-4 kit, which is about $1200, you could buy a nice rolling chassis for around $1000 like deathman said, plus you would have a rolling trike chassis that you could sell or do something else with.

[deathman53]

If he lives close to central new jersey I might trade him a trx 250r frame, a-arms, swingarm, almost a complete bike(minus motor, electronics) for his z roller.

[CHAINSAW]

Must...clear up......misinterperetations.....
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The Z is best at jumping? HAW HAW!!!! The R absolutely outperforms the Z as far as handling goes in just about any situation, jumping included.


thats why opinions are like buttholes,, everyone has one! I dissagree with you completly with your statement. But hey, thats what makes this country so great! :D

[Lots_Of_Nothing]

i agree with kill totally on everything he said (except for the z's have good low end), the z's are very easy to keep balanced in the air, i believe that if the Z had a better power plant, and better suspension (possibly the worst thing about the Z) then it would be the ultimate jumper, but its kind of hard to hit a jump going fast to see how really good it can jump when you cant even get going fast, and even if you do get it up to a good rate and nail a jump............Have fun landing.