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smokinp
12-17-2003, 08:53 PM
I've got a 1983 honda 200atc and i dont know what spark plug to put in it because it is not running right...does anyone have any ideas what to put in it or what was in it when it was new?

TRI-Zbrian
12-17-2003, 09:13 PM
NGK D8EA i used to own the same bike

smokinp
12-17-2003, 09:35 PM
Thanks for the info....i have one of those plugs kicking around so i will try it :D

smokinp
12-17-2003, 10:24 PM
No success...i dunno i put it in and it didnt help

hondatrikesrule22
12-17-2003, 10:25 PM
Your carb may need adjusting?

speed20
12-17-2003, 10:26 PM
are you getting gas into your motor??? how longs it been since youve had it running?

smokinp
12-17-2003, 10:35 PM
I get it started up,drive around for 10mins then when it heats up it starts backfiring a little when i let off it then it just shuts off like 2mins later...after 1 min of sitting it will start up and do the exact same thing

slippy4
12-17-2003, 11:23 PM
whats the compression after and before it dies? my 125 tri-moto did the same thing and found out it needed a rebuild

smokinp
12-18-2003, 08:34 PM
my compression seems to be fine...

TRI-Zbrian
12-18-2003, 08:37 PM
maybe soemthign is getting heat t soaked maybe one of your electrical components are falty and they only trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro the bed when they are heated up. this happens with cars all the time i dont see why it couldnt happen on a wheeler.

smokinp
12-18-2003, 08:38 PM
What part in the electrick system would it be?

TRI-Zbrian
12-18-2003, 08:41 PM
not sure but that sounds alot like what your prob is if it runs awsoem for like ten minuites then starts crapping out on you also do a plug check and see if it is running realy rich or something liek that but it wouldnt start back up two mins later if it was hmm sounds like electrical to me

smokinp
12-18-2003, 08:47 PM
I have checked my plug and it seems a little black but i dont think it would have alot of effect cuz its pretty clean.If the piston was gone then it wouldnt even start and i would notice how easy it is to pull right?

TRI-Zbrian
12-18-2003, 08:53 PM
true but about the plug being black i used to own the same 3 wheeler way back and it did the same thing yours is and id take the plug out and it would be realy blck because the carb was dialed in rong this may also be your problem how black are we talking about is the whole thing black or can you see soem white on it .you may be fouling the plug out too soem times to weak of a spark will cause this

smokinp
12-18-2003, 08:56 PM
i cant see any white around the bottom..I was just looking and mine has a 200e carb on it so it is probley getting too much gas cuz the float sets higher.

TRI-Zbrian
12-18-2003, 08:59 PM
yeah your bike is running to rich and fouling the plugs on you you have to lean it out a bit and it should take care of your prob try running a D7EA NGK plug in it it is a tad bit hotter burning plug and might help you a bit with how rich its running but the proper fix would be to rejet the carb on it.

smokinp
12-18-2003, 09:03 PM
I think that i am goin to buy the right carb for it...what groove was urs sit at?

TRI-Zbrian
12-18-2003, 09:11 PM
i can not remember sorry i owned that bike like 4 years ago its lng gone

smokinp
12-18-2003, 09:13 PM
Thats alright,u'v been a good help to me already.i dont understand what would make it shut off tho?

TRI-Zbrian
12-18-2003, 09:17 PM
its because the plug is fouling out and can no longer creat a hot enouph spark to ignite the feul/air mixture so it cuts out and then finaly dies.

jeffwilson0
12-19-2003, 11:23 AM
I have the same bike, factory, the needle should be right in the middle groove, 3 from the top, or 3 from the bottom, however you look at it. I have the mixture screw turned out 2 full turns and it seems to be the best it has ever been.

smokinp
12-19-2003, 11:49 AM
by saying my carb may need rejettin,does that mean moving the slide up or down on the groves?

TRI-Zbrian
12-19-2003, 12:07 PM
yes it needs to be adjusted not changed

smokinp
12-19-2003, 03:53 PM
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TRI-Zbrian
12-19-2003, 04:08 PM
the pics didnt work they are not clickable

smokinp
12-19-2003, 04:14 PM
It says that my pictures are too big,does anyone know how to make them smaller?