Hi Performance ATC CL 350/360?

[200X FT]

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/mcy/3493845248.html found this on CL this morning. Either Honda CL 350 or 360 scrambler pipes in the first pic. I can't tell though if it's a stock bike frame with an HP swingarm or a whole HP frame & swingarm. I hope someone on here can go pick this one up. I know I want to get it BAD, but my wallet says NO!!! P.S., if someone on here does get it, please get some more info on it and post pics.

[dustrunner]

yep, cl 360 pipes on it.. looks like a motorcycle chasis to me with a atc axle set up... pretty cheap and cool...

[80's atcdude]

I seen that yesterday, I emailed the gut several times and haven't heard back from him. It would be cool to have, Not sure how those motorcycle based trikes handle compared to the newer ATC.

[80's atcdude]

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[200X FT]

Yep, on closer inspection it's a bike frame with the atc swingarm. I was hoping it was a frame kit from Hi Performance. Still it would be a neat ride for the dunes.

[Tri-Z 250]

I had a catalog from Astro/ Hi Performance years back that I gave to LonesomeZ to give a bit of history to his conversion. The peices parts are very close and not all of HiPerformance conversions were ATC frame based(atc frames were mainly trike to quad)....Remember these were CA fab guys into the dunes/drag scene that were into mini rail buggies with 750-850cc street bike motors. You might ask Lonesome to scan or look at the catalog for ya. I'm of the opinion it's a true kit and very rare to be seen outside any dune type State. They had several conversion dune/drag kits from 360-750cc CB Honda based frames...PM LonesomeZ and see if my memory serves me correct...if your looking to buy it.

[80's atcdude]

Is the front end a HHP product. I was thinking of using the front end and wheels on my Bandito project.

[Tri-Z 250]

I would Gold flake the tank and chrome out a 360ccCB motor and restore that entire machine as is. It's more rare than a Duckster or P3 and solid vintage 80's equipment. Your Bandito might be better suited to an 84-85' 200x (and a 10" rim)setup which come cheap and are available.

[Vealmonkey]

Tri-Z 250, I hate to say it, buy you're not quite accurate in what your speaking about Hi Performance ATC. They started out making hardtails for pretty much anything atc90 on up to Kawasaki h2 750s. They also made several suspesion frames that fit many streetbike engines. I have one that originally had a yamaha r5 in it and had an rd350 engine in it as well. They also used engine mounts to fit larger engines. There were also a couple companies that made conversion kits for streetbikes and dirtbikes to trikes. They even went so far as to using the dual shock mounts for the swingarms on cb750 bike frames. So, really without more detailed pictures, it's hard to tell for sure if this is a kit or something home made, but it doesn't look like a Hi Performance ATC frame. It would be easier to tell without the rear fenders though.

[80's atcdude]

Went and looked at the trike today. It looked like a after market swing arm with Yamaha disc brake set up on the rear end, No brake on front. Someone used a CB350 frame and did some cutting and rewelding on it. Poor quality welds. Foot pegs have been torched of the frame and the old motorcycle swing arm mounts also. The forks are CB350 and a triple trees are after market. Fender where in good shape. Tank is rust free but fuel cap is bad. Rear tires are dry rotted and cracked, Owner sold the CB350 engine off already. I think he did some parting off on eBayer and lost interest in parting it off. I didn't buy it. Its been sitting outside since he taken those pictures for C/L, More of a project than I,m looking for right now.

[Tri-Z 250]

Well Veal, you are senior to me and have far more knowledge than I'll ever possess on collectable trike stuff. Not to mention a collection I could never afford or dream of owning(which makes you the expert here, bar none). I feel from the CL pics it looks close enough to warrent a closer look, but PMing a member might verifie the peices parts(which look real close IMO). If you read closer I never mentioned it was a custom frame by HP/Astro but did think it was a CB conversion kit(which they made). Oh yeah, I do see where I wrote: Not all HP conversion were atc frame based(atc were mainly trike to quad)...Which is a true statement, let me expand that in 1986 when I paid $3.00 for the catalog it was mainly converted ATC to Quads. When I spoke to the owner sales rep back then he said they sold more buggies than conversion kits and perfred to(as the ban was the writting on the wall and newly enforced). They were gonna phase out of the conversion as soon as the market falls. Along with the hardtail stuff they also did a KX80 2wheel to quad, a 750cc 250Rframe conversion to quad that I didn't mention. I didn't know you wanted a History on HP/Astro...here's a fact for ya they were based in Elcajon Ca, but you knew that already didn't you. It's been awhile since I had it in my hands but in the 15 yrs I did; I thumbed through it 1000 times. Never mentioned they didn't do hardtails 90's either. My guess you just couldn't hold back the fact you have one in your garage(only verifing your expertise). I bet it's next to the other collectables in mint condition that never get ridden. So thanks and remember just cause it don't look like yours doesn't mean it's NOT a kit from them. I'll agree better photos would be helpful and if LonesomeTri-Z would have scanned and posted the catalog as agreed to before giving it away. I'd show how BIG your ego overshadows your ablity to comprehend what I written.:beer

[200X FT]

oh boy. All I have to go off of is this scan which is on the site elsewhere http://www.3wheelerworld.com/content.php/297-Vintage-High-Performance-Products-brochures-cool-stuff-inside!-amp-amp. Just guessing by looking at the products on the brochure, it looks like this trike has the Hi Performance swingarm, rear brake kit, and triple trees (or a good copy of them) on it. TRI-Z 250: you mentioned that it was rare to see that type trike outside any dune type state. Michigan is loaded with dunes along Lake Michigan and in Michigans northwest portion of the state. Just so you know, if you want to go duning, its not too far away. I can see how this trike was probably a real cool ride in its day. Thank you 80's atcdude for giving us a first hand account on it's condition and what frame it really is. It would be cool to see it fixed up, thats for sure. THAT'S ALL

[80's atcdude]

One thing I notice about it was that there not a lot of clearance between the ground and bottom of engine cradle. It would be a good deal for someone that had a CB350 engine laying around and could put it back together. He still had the ignition switch with the key, tool box and Battery box that came on the CB frame original. It would be fun at Silver Lake dunes.

[Tri-Z 250]

200X I take that as a standing offer to PM you before heading back to Silver Lake. I think of Michigan as more of a woods riding State, more so than CA or AZ...is what I should have written. Yes these conversion were low to the ground not ment for MX but straitline holeshot dune/drag type riding. Yes thanks for posting as I believe Historically these machines are few in numbers this side of the Mississippi. The CB Kit conversions not something every person would want but part of 3wheel History that is less touched on.

Also 200X I apoligise to you for flaming up inside your Post. Normally I would have let it go but this one struck a cord. thanks again

[80's atcdude]

I would imagine that back in the 70's this had to be one of the baddest trikes on the dunes out there. You only had the 90's to modify, It was sorta like the 250R of its day.

[ezmoney1979]

I would imagine that back in the 70's this had to be one of the baddest trikes on the dunes out there. You only had the 90's to modify, It was sorta like the 250R of its day.
Yeah but there were guys running Kawi tripples and Yamaha RDs which make the CB seem like a 90.

[80's atcdude]

True that. LOL. I should have said 200x of its day.

[200X FT]

Thank you Tri-Z, sorry about the dune deal. I can be a stickler when it comes down to what is said and what is meant. You are right that Michigan is more of a woods riding state than a dune state. I'll go duning anytime Tri-Z, as long as I can borrow some paddles off you. Back to the trike, CB 350 engines are definitely not powerhouses, but I can see how one was an improvement over a 90. I can't imagine what a Kawasaki triple powered trike could do. Yikes. There's some pics of one floating around on here. Maybe someone will bring this one back to life.

[80's atcdude]

What this site needs is a photo album of trikes that easy to use to look up pictures by manufacturers. I,m a member of oldminibikes and they have a great photo section for identify bikes and a section in the photo album of the brochures available from manufacturers back in the day. Its a great way of saving history of the ATC's and easy to view with out wondering through years of postings.

http://www.oldminibikes.com/

Look at there photo section.