I joined the polaris club today.

[just ben]

Thanks to howdy,ever since trikefest My other half has been hell bent about getting a scrambler. I have been watching one on CL for the past couple of months that appeared to be in nice shape and had a parts bike with it. The seller started a little high IMO at 1500.00 About every two weeks the price went down 100.00 until it was down to 800.00 or possible trade,so I finally gave the guy a call to find out about it,this was two days ago. I thought about it for a while and decided at this time of year I probably shouldn't spend the money.It was still in the back of my head though and I mentioned it to diane yesterday and her eyes lit up.Immediatly she tells me to call the guy back and figure out how to get it. Well needless to say I figured it out,I ended up trading my daughters ktm 50 that she is too big for now and 250.00. The trike is in very nice shape but has 2 issues.The first and biggest is the rear brake rotor is missing and is also missing on the parts bike.The second issue is the starter isn't working. the starter should be an easy fix but half the trike has to come apart to get it out. I will get some pics up when I get the starter fixed and the bike is back together.

[M.Pargiello]

The scramblers are a completely different machine than any other trike I have seen. I love ours

[Howdy]

Welcome to the Club. Once you start working on them you will curse me. I probably have a brake disk.
Things to check:
Rear brake Caliper,
Swing arm bushings ( and the transmission where the swinger bolts fit into ),
The starter,
and check the under side of the frame near the the floor boards ( they tend to rust out there ).

Howdy

[just ben]

I knew about the swing arm bushings. What am i looking for on the trans where the swinger bolts up? There is no caliper on the runner but there is one on the parts bike that literally looks brand new and has brand new pads on it for sure. The starter turns (barely) maybe 1 rpm lol. I'm hoping that it just needs a good cleaning. Between the two starters I have I should be able to get one working. Let me know if you have a rotor, i really want to fix the brakes before I throw diane on it. 158866

[bigred44]

Congrats Ben!! That is awesome. I love those machines. I rode mik6's last year at brapp's and i still have a smile on my face. lol. Really fun machine. Dont forget to add a cup holder.

[Big Mike]

awesome score Ben. I love my scrambler. check out my recent ride video in the new England ride thread.

[Swinger]

Sweet!!! Now your in trouble, you know this right??? Regina is excited now D has a trike too. We better be carefull, they are going to start a triker chic gang and rob us for parts, ha ha!! I guess she better get started on her 3WW profile and she can be in the "chicks on trikes" facebook page. Good score for sure man!

[3Queen]

:w00t::Bounce YAY!!! D got her trike!!! It is about time Ben!!! HA HA I love it more chicks on trikes!!! Look out guys.. Big Mike did you get Amanda a trike??? If not she needs one!!!

[keister]

Awesome!! Welcome to the club. Getting to that starter motor is certainly no picnic, but you will learn a lot about that trike in the process. I have one of the clutch pullers you will need if you want to borrow it.

[Big Mike]

No trike for Amanda yet. She is still undecided about what to do. She want to ride and race the 350X, but we need to fix it first.

[M.Pargiello]

Forgive me for going a little off topic, But how much grab should the clutch have? Do they "snap" to life if you peg it? Mine is really gradual..Almost seems like the clutch needs to be rebuilt. The trike will not shock you if you floor it, very tame for a 250 2 stroke in my opinion. But I do not know as it is the first polaris atv I have owned. I understand it is more like a snowmobile as far as the tourqe converter goes, and most sleds will snap you when you peg it...

[Big Mike]

I dont think the Polaris snaps as it where. They will boogy just takes a bit to get it going. II just put a clutch off a newer, read 92, trailblazer as my clutch has some issues, and it pull stronger, if I just stab it to wide open, its not a suprising jump. These motors are built to rev up fast, if they were, I think you would feel a "SNAP".

[M.Pargiello]

Oh, it definitely scoots, Just takes a minute to get itself there. Sounds like im right where it should be.

Maybe I will look into the trailboss clutch. My belt is good, Clutch has good movement throughout the RPM range, Just double checking with the other P3 owners.

Mine does need rear caliper work, swinger bushings and a footboard fixed too haha. Completely rideable as is though

[Big Mike]

Why trailboss clutch? Whats that have over the original clutch?

[just ben]

getting the starter out wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but it is seized right up. I guess I was wrong about it spinning at all. I got the brushes free but even with an airhammer on the armature it didn't budge. Another hr. on it then I will pull the starter off the parts bike and asee how bad that one is. If I can't get one working it's off to ebay for one but I would rather save the 150.00. No puller needed to get the starter out keister but I do appeciate the offer. I do however need a 2013 calender.I keep my 2012 in the truck with my work schedule on it and showed it to the seller when I went to look at the trike and he thought it was the coolest thing,so I gave him my 2013 when I picked the trike up. keep one aside for me I will send money the next time I add to my paypal for parts. Back to the garage now to work on that starter lol.

[fabiodriven]

Nice find Ben.

It's just a snowmobile clutch guys. If you want it to engage more aggressively, all you have to do is change the main spring. You can buy different weight springs for cheap. I don't think that trike needs a more aggressive clutch though.

[M.Pargiello]

I meant trailblazer but said trailboss. The clutch on mine is probably fine, I was just wondering if they are supposed to respond like a sled. Since its a utility then it really doesn't need to be snappy.

I love the P3's though, Sorry again for threadjacking. Thats a nice polaris Ben! All the P3's need to get together at some point :)

[Howdy]

getting the starter out wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but it is seized right up. I guess I was wrong about it spinning at all. I got the brushes free but even with an airhammer on the armature it didn't budge. Another hr. on it then I will pull the starter off the parts bike and asee how bad that one is. If I can't get one working it's off to ebay for one but I would rather save the 150.00. No puller needed to get the starter out keister but I do appeciate the offer. I do however need a 2013 calender.I keep my 2012 in the truck with my work schedule on it and showed it to the seller when I went to look at the trike and he thought it was the coolest thing,so I gave him my 2013 when I picked the trike up. keep one aside for me I will send money the next time I add to my paypal for parts. Back to the garage now to work on that starter lol.

$150 for a starter? For $150.00 I could sell you 2 of them and have money left over for me. I found a place to get HD starters for 1/3rd that. I sent a PM. ;)
The amount of work it takes to get the starter out and in has taught me to put new ones in when ever they need fixed. I have a box of old starters ( at least 6-8 of them ) that could possibly be rebuilt, but I have no plans on doing so. I'm keeping them as "Just in case" parts. Some are 2 brush style and some are 4 brush style.

The swing arm bushing bolt has a little nipple on the end of it. That nipple fits into a hole with a bushing on each side of the tranny. I have seen the tranny hole busted out, bushings broke / missing, ect in a few machines. The bushings are no longer available. I need a few of them for future builds, but I am not currently in dire need so I haven't looked into having them made yet.
Howdy

[jeswinehart]

I would think a P-3 drag class is in order for this years 2013TF meet.

Ben, if you would like a factory manual I will send you mine (that Howdy sent in disc for wasn't it Howdy?) anyways, mine is loose leaf paper in a binder. You can take to a copier and make up your own.
PM me your address if you want to borrow it.

john

[Howdy]

I would think a P-3 drag class is in order for this years 2013TF meet.

Ben, if you would like a factory manual I will send you mine (that Howdy sent in disc for wasn't it Howdy?) anyways, mine is loose leaf paper in a binder. You can take to a copier and make up your own.
PM me your address if you want to borrow it.

john

John, That was a PDF file made from a scanned manual. P.I.T.A to do. LOL I can save some postage here.
Ben, if you need the manual let me know I can get you it tonight and you can print out pages as needed. ;)
Howdy

[MonroeMike]

There's some P3 info here.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?127123-Polaris-Scrambler-quot-P3-quot-Service-Data

[M.Pargiello]

I would think a P-3 drag class is in order for this years 2013TF meet.

Definitely!

Side note: how do I change my thing "P3 Member" status? I don't know if I can hmmmm

[just ben]

$150 for a starter? For $150.00 I could sell you 2 of them and have money left over for me. I found a place to get HD starters for 1/3rd that. I sent a PM. ;)
The amount of work it takes to get the starter out and in has taught me to put new ones in when ever they need fixed. I have a box of old starters ( at least 6-8 of them ) that could possibly be rebuilt, but I have no plans on doing so. I'm keeping them as "Just in case" parts. Some are 2 brush style and some are 4 brush style.

The swing arm bushing bolt has a little nipple on the end of it. That nipple fits into a hole with a bushing on each side of the tranny. I have seen the tranny hole busted out, bushings broke / missing, ect in a few machines. The bushings are no longer available. I need a few of them for future builds, but I am not currently in dire need so I haven't looked into having them made yet.
HowdyIt appears there is a lack of bushings at the end of the swinger bolts. I would like to see what they a soppose to be,I'm sure I can make them

[just ben]

I would think a P-3 drag class is in order for this years 2013TF meet.


I agree! but be careful what you ask for, I have torches,a welder and a spare P3 lol.Thank you for the offer of your hard copy but howdy has a file and it appears monroe mike posted a link to the manual.Thanks for the help guys, This thing Is nothing like I have worked on before

[jeswinehart]

I am very sure I replaced my swing arm bushings with 1 inch round derlin stock. Can't recall what size I drilled the hole though but 1 inch diamitier sticks in my mind.

[Bryan Raffa]

Nice solid bike there BEN!

[MIK6]

ben i have a set of 86 bushing w seals here that hagen tracked down.. you might be able to match them and i have a set of bushings swinehart made up.
I have a caliper for you too!
My P3 is a mess rite now, primary making all sorts of weird noise and think i broke motor mounts again.


MIK6 / Mike

[just ben]

if she wants to ride it she has to work on it.159080

[3Queen]

I will be doing the same thing tomorrow..

[just ben]

I hope you are a better wrench than diane is,I gave her one bolt to tighten(that I started) and a beer and two smokes later the bolt didnt move more than 1/4 turn

[M.Pargiello]

Sounds like my wife when she wants to help haha

[Buster Brown]

My wife has showed true interest in making our first trip to TF this year, now that we have a P3. I am all in and don't want this flame to flicker out. I just worry about her on 3. She gets a little throttle happy on 4 at times..... Slooow and steady honey...... The other ladies may help us with the learning curve.
:) Hope to be there!

[3Queen]

LOL I hope you know what you are wishing for!!!! Buster Brown, you get your wife to TF13 she will not have a flame it will be more like a fire under her, she may take your trikes and will never get off of 3WW. Just ask Dave!!! Ben don't know it, but he just loss his trikes 2 D!!!! LMAO!!!

[Buster Brown]

Thanks Queen. I hope so. She likes to hang and socialize. 3 beers though and it's night night time, so we will be having something tame around a campfire. Anyway in a funny way I really have a weird fondness for the P3. It would be a trip to remember for sure!

[MIK6]

We will have to figure how many P3s will be at TF.. might have to start a thread.. lol
MIK6/ Mike

[just ben]

I would like to slap the idiot who designed the rear brakes and the morons who decided it was a good idea

[M.Pargiello]

^^^^THAT.

"Worst. Design. Ever."
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[Howdy]

I would like to slap the idiot who designed the rear brakes and the morons who decided it was a good idea

Once you do it about 10 times you will find it's not so bad. Until then they aren't much fun. LOL Any way I can help?
Howdy

[just ben]

Once you do it about 10 times you will find it's not so bad. Until then they aren't much fun. LOL Any way I can help?
HowdyI don't wanna do it 10 times LOL. They will eventually be converted to a hydraulic set up.

[Howdy]

I don't wanna do it 10 times LOL. They will eventually be converted to a hydraulic set up.

I picked up a Hydralic Caliper from a board member years ago that fits on the P3's. I can't remeber what it is off of though. I never got around to finding a left hand Brake master cylinder or to having a long brake hose made for it.
Howdy

[just ben]

I picked up a Hydralic Caliper from a board member years ago that fits on the P3's. I can't remeber what it is off of though. I never got around to finding a left hand Brake master cylinder or to having a long brake hose made for it.
HowdyI have the master already(off chinese quad) my outlander 400 also has one. for the brake line I plan to use common steel brake line upto the steering neck and a flex line from there. I just need a caliper. The brakes work for now,I am working on go fast parts for now. I need to find a cyclone cylinder. The head is available and cheap and I have the exhaust. It appears to be +8hp with cyclone parts. Or I could rework the spare top end I have and go for more. I can never leave well enough alone,maybe thats why this "hobby" costs me so much lol.

[Howdy]

I'm pretty sure the caliper is off a older Polaris. I just don't remember what model / year.
Howdy

[just ben]

I'm pretty sure the caliper is off a older Polaris. I just don't remember what model / year.
Howdyprobably like this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/91-polaris-250-trailboss-trail-boss-rear-brake-caliper-WORKS-/140875012061?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4504089771767071438%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D140875012061% 26 I'm not too keen on that either. One reason is they seem to be expensive and another is the funky adjuster,maybe it's just for the parking brake idk. when I do it I will use a dual or quad piston caliper (since the rotor floats and the caliper will need to be stationary) and will make an adapter plate make it bolt on.

[MIK6]

Thats the caliper on my parts boss.. i think that has to do w the foot brake linkage..
MIK6/ Mike

[Howdy]

probably like this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/91-polaris-250-trailboss-trail-boss-rear-brake-caliper-WORKS-/140875012061?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4504089771767071438%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D140875012061% 26 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5336526073&toolid=10001&mpre=http://www.ebay.com/itm/91-polaris-250-trailboss-trail-boss-rear-brake-caliper-WORKS-/140875012061?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4504089771767071438%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D140875012061% 26) I'm not too keen on that either. One reason is they seem to be expensive and another is the funky adjuster,maybe it's just for the parking brake idk. when I do it I will use a dual or quad piston caliper (since the rotor floats and the caliper will need to be stationary) and will make an adapter plate make it bolt on.

I really need to get a picture of the caliper I have. If I remember correctly it don't have the parking cable stuff. I'm pretty sure it's just hydralic and it mounts solid for the floating / sliding disk.
Howdy