What's the deal with honda ohtsu tires?

[honda200x1987]

Honda recently discontinued the OEM OHTSU 701 rear tires for the 1986-87 ATC200X and the ATC350X this past Sept. I was thinking well Honda is just stepping up to Discontinue the remaining ATC parts . I was looking into a similar replacement tire and the 2008 TRX300EX OHTSU 702 tires looked similar to the 701's but they are discontinued. The 300EX is only 4 years old and the rear tires are already discoed? Even the 2009 TRX300X OHTSU rear tires are not available. What is up with that? I thought Honda kept parts available for their models for 10 years or atleast the parts that wear especially the tires. Can someone shed some light on this? Maybe it has something to do with a contract with the tire manufacturers and the tires are just temporarily unavailable.

[tapper190]

I heard that they won't sell the Ohtsu tire in the United States anymore, but you can still get them here in Canada for double the price. When I called my Honda dealer, they are $125 per tire plus our wonderful sales tax.
Tapper

[ctk]

Get in the back of the oem tire search line. Line starts after tapper and me. Lol

[honda200x1987]

Does that mean the OHTSU 350X rears are aviailable in Canada?
I heard that they won't sell the Ohtsu tire in the United States anymore, but you can still get them here in Canada for double the price. When I called my Honda dealer, they are $125 per tire plus our wonderful sales tax.
Tapper

[tapper190]

That's what my Honda dealer said back in the first part of Sept., I will ask them again today if I get a chance to cal them.
Tapper

[tapper190]

Checked with Honda , still can get the oem's here in Canada
Tapper

[honda200x1987]

I have contacted many Honda dealers here in the U.S. and no one has the rears for the 350X . Who can I contact in Canada? I have visited some Canadian dealer sites and they are not showing availability.

[honda200x1987]

Thanks for the info Tapper, I called a Honda shop in Canada and the tires are on Backorder till the 2nd week of Nov . The dealer is not sure what is going on with the 350X rear tire in the states beacause they are not available here in the U.S.. but they are definately on B/O in Canada. Wonder why they stop selling in the states? Then again they were on B/O with a ETA of sept 7th this past sept here but now show Discontinued.

[honda200x1987]

I am really suprised there has not been many responces to this thread, maybe there really is not much intrest and prob why the tire has been discontinued here in the U.S. On the other hand the tires sell on eBay easily ,even when they were available they were selling for double the price . Most people thought they were already discontinued but in fact they were available from Honda for the past 2 years. They were on backorder back in early 2010 then Honda had ordered a certain amount of tires from the manufacturer and I looks like it took 2 years to sell what they had stocked. Maybe they were a slow seller and that's why they were discoed but IMO they are very sought after. You can sell these tires every day on eBay at the original sale price , I think everyone beleives most parts are not available and it is just more convenient to order from eBay. The question now is why they are on Backorder in Canada? It maybe that if not enough tires are ordered ahead of time from dealers during the B/O then they go discontinued and this may be the last chance. Anybody have a real answer for this?

[wonderboy]

I bought my last set in Canada, after the US discontinued them. I found a place as close to the border as I could. When it was all said and done (purchase price, HST, and bridge tolls) this set cost me about $250. When I ordered, the dealership indicated that there were only two sets available. I bought one, so supposedly, there was only one left. I couldn't justify buying two sets given how much money I'd have to sink into them, plus the fact that we weren't sure if they were coming back to the US or not.

It will be interesting to see if they show back up in Canada (after being backordered), but I'm betting not.

[tapper190]

I guess I bought the second set, lol. When I picked them up at my Honda dealer yesterday, I had a little chat with them. They said that they were going to do some research to see if they still can get them (they are still on back order until Nov.). They also said that they have an e-bay account and will ship to the United States. I guess they don't have to add our sales tax to the tires as long as you are not a Canadian resident, but the shipping will probably make up for that, lol. If anybody is interested in a set of oem's, I'll keep on checking with them to see what they find out, just let me know.
Tapper

[honda200x1987]

I just got a email from a Honda dealer in Canada, they said the 200X 350X Ohtsu 701's are still available there but are on Backorder until the middle of November. The price will be $113.72 per tire, this is nutz, now I might be wronge but I think they will be available again here in the U.S. in November also. Back in early 2010 the tires were not available but were back in stock again later that year, guess we will see next month,I'm keeping my toes crossed on this one though. One thing I do know for sure when a part shows Discontinued or not available ,on rare occasions they bring the part back , i have seen this before with the 85-86 ATC250R fenders back in 2003 I think. A honda rep once told me once a part goes Discontinued it would only be made again if it was for a new model year or if the demand was high enough which is prob why they still made the rear tires for the 350X in 2010. They discontinued the rear tires for the 2009 300X which was also for the 300EX models because the tire was a slow seller, that is what Honda is saying anyway.

[tapper190]

You got a better price on tires than me, lol. I paid $125 a tire, I think I will have a little talk with my local Honda dealer, that's b.s. seeing the amount of money I spend there, lol
Tapper

[honda200x1987]

Here in the U.S. I was buying them for $50 each with free shipping, I really hope they come available again.
You got a better price on tires than me, lol. I paid $125 a tire, I think I will have a little talk with my local Honda dealer, that's b.s. seeing the amount of money I spend there, lol
Tapper

[honda200x1987]

I just got another response from the dealer in Canada, the OHTSU rear tires for the 350X are still on backorder and he has a ETA date now showing nov 22nd. I guess it's because they are just not selling these OHtSU branded tires in the U.S. for now, which might explain why just recently the 1983-85 200X, 85-87 250SX/TRX200SX, 86 ATC250R, 86-87 TRX250R OHTSU's are not available either, REAR tires for ALL these models were available at the first of the year,weird, maybe this has something to do with a trade agreement with japan or some type of contract?

[rg97]

for my 200x, i just got some oem ohtsu pro vector 301's from my local honda shop. they didnt say whether they were still available, but they had two in stock so i scooped them up. I dont know why they would be available for me but not you, but i have seen other atc tires (oems, with minorly updated treads) for the 250r and 350x, called a PV701 at the shop. the tires were cheap, too, $60/tire originally but with my "repeat customer" discount, i got them cheaper.

[Dirtcrasher]

I support all your efforts,

Me, myself, I couldn't care less. The tires we have now and the front rims X-owner is getting us will allow us for lots of choices.

Some of use care but to me, a tire is a tire.

[honda200x1987]

I agree dirtcrasher I praise X-owner for the rims and I fully support any and all reproduction and I myself have had some small stuff reproed and I have bought aftermarket parts. I am only trying to locate these tires so we can still have the OEM's for nostalgia , I like the looks of the originals and they are reliable. .. rg97 I ordered a set of the 301's OEM for the 83-85 200X and 86-87 TRX200SX a week ago and my dealer said they where discontinued and sent me a refund.

[rg97]

rg97 I ordered a set of the 301's OEM for the 83-85 200X and 86-87 TRX200SX a week ago and my dealer said they where discontinued and sent me a refund.
its possible that the pv301's that i bought were the last ones that they had in stock, and that they were not made anymore and they just sat around for a while. i just called my dealer, and they have the PV501, (85-86 250r), but not the PV701 (85-86 350x and 86-87 200x). the 701s are discontinued, and the only way you'll probably get them is to find an NOS pair from eBay. expect to pay tons of money, tho, becasue now that they are discontinued they go for $$$.

[honda200x1987]

Update!!!! I just discovered that the OHTSU P/V 301 rear tires OEM for the 1983-85 ATC200X / 86-87 TRX200SX / 85-87 ATC250SX are now available from honda as of yesterday "Nov 26th" . I had tried to order a set at the first of this month and I was refunded my $ and my dealer said they were not available but now they are! I was told honda is out to discontinue all ATC related parts but that does not seem like the case here. For example the 1986-87 rear swingarm skid plate was not available recently and I was refund my $ for that part but it is now available again to. Also the 1986-87 200X/350X rears have a new Backorder date of Dec 21st! Looks like they will be back in dealer stock soon but I am not sure why they pushed the date up ,they were on B/O til Nov 21st but this is good news . This is proof they are still making the older OHTSU branded ATV tires, we already know Honda had brought back the 1988-89 TRX250R TRX450R OhTSU rears back in August so yes, OHTSU is still making ATV tires, not just truck tires. I will keep checking the status on the 350X rears and keep you guys posted, they were discontinued back in 2010 and Honda brought them back so we will see what happens next. Here is a link to Bikebandit for the 83-85 200X OHTSU 301 ,I verified it with them and they said they are available now. http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1985-honda-atc200x/o/m1899#sch6639

[Marty]

I just called service honda and tried to order a set. The best thing is they now say back order instead of the discontinued, we need more info buddy who did you speak to in the US?

[rg97]

i use a store called powersportsplus.com and they have lots and lots of parts diagrams for all atc's. prices are cheap, and it tells me whether the tires are available or discontinued.

[honda200x1987]

I assume you are talking about the 1983-85 200X OHTSU REARS? These were showing "on Backorder" in BikeBandit's parts finche but now shows available. I talked with a live agent and confirmed it with them, they have a "live chat" at the top right on their site.I ordered a set and they are on the way so they are available for sure. Also.. Powersportsplus.com was showing discontinued but are showing available on their site, I also confirmed it there. I also called Bikebandit on the phone, this was kind of odd I gave them the part number 42750-HA6-681AT and the number they see is 42711-965-003 ,the superceded number and they said it is available now. I have a set on the way and should get them by mon or tue so give them a call or order from their site . Hope this helps! I will keep you guys posted on any updates ,I'm hoping the 86 87 200X/350X rears come back next month, we will see!
I just called service honda and tried to order a set. The best thing is they now say back order instead of the discontinued, we need more info buddy who did you speak to in the US?

[honda200x1987]

Yes they update discontinued parts, powersportsplus were showing discontinued last week also but now show available . It's not always the case that once a part shows discontinued it's gone for good. It happens on a regular basis, the 350X rears were discoed back in 2010 but were available again later that year, I'm hoping history repeats itself! Dealers are telling me 22x10-9 701's are again on Backorder till Dec 21st! I'm optimistic but untill i get them in my hands only then we will know for sure. I will post a pic of the 301's also ,once they get to my door.
i use a store called powersportsplus.com and they have lots and lots of parts diagrams for all atc's. prices are cheap, and it tells me whether the tires are available or discontinued.

[ceaserthethird]

Let us know any up dates, Would like to get at least some Ohtsu's for the ATC250R ...

[honda200x1987]

I will keep you posted, I ordered another set of the 301's 83-85 200x 250sx trx200sx from bikebandit and once again they have them on backorder till the 23rd. I am still waiting on the confirmation on the 350X 701's and they are on backorder till the 21st, just a couple more days and I will know more. I have not checked the OHTSU 20's for the 86 ATC250R , they are in the same boat with all the other tires and are showing discoed also right now. I am optimistic but they all could very well be gone for good this time and if they do come back I am STOCKING UP on these tires. Keep your fingers crossed.

[honda200x1987]

Well I just got another email from the Honda dealer and just as I suspected expected them to say, ,, the OHTSU 86 350X/200X rears are still on Backorder with a new ETA date of FEB 22nd, they just keep pushing up the Backorder date. Numerous models with the OHTSU brands are on backorder also like the 2003-05 TRX90 for examp. I think these tires are just not on top of Honda's list right now , the only new models that carry OHTSU are the TRX450R and TRX400X and they were on Backorder a few months back but Honda brought them back quick. The 701's They may not ever come back for all I know but I will keep you guys posted.