Crated atc's

[honda200x1987]

Anyone have new information or pictures with new ATC's still in their crates? Here is the 1986 ATC250R that is on this site and a TRI-Z 153636153637

[bkm]

Waiting for the nutjobs who will claim their second couisins uncle/neighbor has three of them in his basement and they have seen them but have no proof. But they're not bullsh!tin.

[kawasaki666]

Tri-Z! No B.S.! WoW!!!

[atc007]

Waiting for the nutjobs who will claim their second couisins uncle/neighbor has three of them in his basement and they have seen them but have no proof. But they're not bullsh!tin.

Well,I wouldn't want to disappoint ! lol.. I know of 2 85 ATC 250ES still crated. Neither are for sale,family heirlooms. If they ever shake free,I will post pics once they are here on the ground. . It's only a matter of time,and I'm a very patient man lol !

[dougspcs]

I didn't know of the crate TriZ..what's the story about that? Who's got it? Is there a link to more info?

[bkm]

Well,I wouldn't want to disappoint ! lol.. I know of 2 85 ATC 250ES still crated. Neither are for sale,family heirlooms. If they ever shake free,I will post pics once they are here on the ground. . It's only a matter of time,and I'm a very patient man lol !Bill, I'm from Missouri and our state motto is "The Show-Me State" and to quote Hugh Roland from the show Ice Road Truckers, "Talk is cheap and wiskey cost money" so until I see them I'll just continue to say "what I've seen is what I know." And as far as I know the two above are the only examples out there along with the '87 Tecate that Kawasaki built during their 25th anniversary deal, to me the rest is hear say. I'm humbly waiting to be told "I told you so."

Call me a skeptic, pessimist, glass half empty kind of guy, I just find it hard to believe this day and age a simple picture that reveals nothing other then they exist would be out of the question. Not calling you a liar but until I lay eyes on them or am shown concrete proof I'll remain a skeptic.

[atc007]

I Know. Like I said,,once 1 or both are in my posession,,they will be shared : ) It's gonna be awhile ..

[bkm]

Why the '85 big red of all bikes? I mean why would someone keep a hold of the 2nd best selling and produced trike of all time behind the '84 200es. Seeing how they made them two more years after 1985 (three if you count the 88 overseas model) you would think they would have all been assembled and sold. I could see a one purpose sport model like the 86'250r that really didn't sell very well towards the end, but the workhorse flagship of Honda in 1985 not being sold and not one but two of them. Just seems crazy to me. Like I said I am Humbly waiting to be proved wrong and for the sake of the sport I hope to see the day that more pop up.

I also find it crazy that with times being what they are and seeing the stir that Andy's 250r brought, that if there were more of these out there they didn't start popping up for sale after the 250r went up on ebay the first time. I mean they all can't be owned by billionaires who wipe their as$es with hundred dollar bills and money means nothing to them?

Now that being said do I think they are still out there? Yes I do think there are a few floating around and are owned by guys who have absolutely no clue what they have and are out of touch with the current niche craze going on. They might also have been left behind by a deceased relative who never informed the surviving family as to what the hell it is and its piled underneath a bunch of crap. But I think the ones that are out there and the current owner knows exactly what they have and refuse to let it see the light of day are slim to none. Just my .02

If your on this website you know the craze and $$$$ that these items bring so if you claim to know someone with a crated bike you have told them the $$$$ they bring and kids contrary what people tell you its always about the $$$$. I find it hard to believe that someone who was informed about the rarity and value of their item would refuse to share it in the least little bit. But again this is solely my opinion.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Aside from all the "do they exist or do they not" issue... I can't help but daydream :drool: about having such a cool piece of history! I still don't know if I would uncrate it at all, assemble it and put it on display never to ride it, or assemble it and ride. What a Christmas present that would be indeed!!!

What did the crated R end up selling for anyway? Anyone know off the top of their head??

[atc007]

Before or after Ebay fees? I think $30000,,before. I offered him $27000,,He made out a little better on Ebay. And I do not know,nor have I asked, who bought it. I think he wanted it quiet,and I understand that. Didn't mean to fire you up Bryan! I have not seen these,,but I have a decent instinct :D,,I know of collections,and have pics,,that would make some here pass out,,,Seriously,,break out into a sweat and just Rattle their minds for DAYS. Some stop in here,,Most don't. One doesn't own a computer. Let me ask you this.. How many customers of VMS do you know? Me neither. There are HUNDREDS of nutso enthusiats like me out there,,,,that just happen,,,get ready,, to not post on the internet. Are there crated 3 wheelers left? Absolutely

[motoman1012002]

Theres a Christmas 70 over in indy at a Honda shop seen it Saturday

[christph]

Someone needs to throw a tarp over that Z. If you are preserving it for posterity it only makes sense to protect it.

[atc007]

Wow,you're not kidding. I hadn't clicked on the pic till now,,,she is Filthy! I understand not wanting to wash it depending on it's climate. But I would and soak her down with preservative.

[bkm]

I'm not fired up, just more thinking out loud. I often wonder about these things and this is some of the thoughts I've had. I truly hope that I am proven wrong and more of them pop up and with todays rapid spreading social media its only a matter of time that if they are out there, they will surface. I just find it hard to believe that not a single one has surfaced since Andy's 250r. There has to be someone out there if they truly do exist that could use the extra 15-40 thousand dollars. I mean if you add up all the claims over the years of guys claiming to know someone with a crated bike there should be at least 15-25 of them collecting dust and hidden from inquiring minds.

[just ben]

I didn't know of the crate TriZ..what's the story about that? Who's got it? Is there a link to more info?From what I know of it which is almost nothing, It is halfway around the world in germany. I Seen that pic in one of Hagens ebay auctions and asked him about it at trikefest. I didn't get any of the back story on it, he just said it was a friend of his who owns it.

[honda200x1987]

It may be in the UK ,I found the picture of the TRI Z here --> http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=434306

[honda200x1987]

Wonder if anything ever come of this and it might be worth investigating if you live in Virginia,, it may be just a dream but here is a old thread on some crated 3 wheelers at a closed dealership --->> http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/105265-Crazy-Honda-Hoarder

[Buster Brown]

The crated R I had went to a collector in NY.
Bill, no huge ebay fee's were collected on the final sale due to it being listed as "parts"(less than $200).
Though in retrospect, I wish I'd not listed it like that (as parts). It sold for a bit over $30k. The selling auction can still be searched and viewed (now archived), by using key words "cated ATC 250R" under completed auctions.
I agree with Bryan. Too many people speak without backing there words here. I try to show pics with most ideas/issues I discuss on these forums. Seeing is believing.

[350Xccelerator]

Met some guy on the trails a few months ago who said back in the 80's him and his buddies would steal crates of new bikes off the trains delivering them to the dealers. Said they would put em together and trash the crap out of them. All kinds of trikes and dirt bikes.

[bkm]

Met some guy on the trails a few months ago who said back in the 80's him and his buddies would steal crates of new bikes off the trains delivering them to the dealers. Said they would put em together and trash the crap out of them. All kinds of trikes and dirt bikes.Classy Fella. Just the type that needs a bullet behind the ear.

[El Camexican]

Having ruined all the silver coins my grandmother left me by polishing them I know I could never be trusted to be left alone with that dusty Tri-Z. I’d have it out, washed assembled and devalued in less than a day. Thank God someone with self-control owns it!

[86T3]

Jeez el camexican, you do have OCD. Hope they didn't wind up in the lawn!

[pipeline triker]

I am sure there are more out there, they are just hiding. I am into vintage snowmobiles and have a bussiness mainly buying and selling, restoring, and parts for vintage sleds and bikes, I do alot of trikes also. I have been duing this for over 20 years now. I just sold a proto type one of one John Deere that was not supposed to exist. But getting to things still in crate. I am not sure on the details, but 11 or 12 Kawasaki Snowmobiles in there shipping crates have just been purchased by one of the snowmobile musems by Eagle River. They are very dirty and some were even ridden and used as test sleds, and then taken back apart and put back in there crate. These were all found in a warehouse out west somewhere. the sleds are all in the crates yet and they built crates around the factory crates to ship them to WI. They are currently in a warehouse around madison waiting to be brought to eagle river, as they needed to build a bigger building for them.

[atc007]

I know of them. Less than a decade ago,,a John Deere dealer down the road from here still had a JDX-8 on the 3rd shelf up in the warehouse,,My Dad was gonna buy it in 1984,,but very smartly opted for a 1983 Yamaha Excel 3. Anyhow,it was there for the taking for around $600. Dusty?? Ohh yes.. But never fueled,,ohh crap,,,I don't have pics,,so it was a dream. Never happened..Dammit! Pipleline,,any interest in NOS Cat stuff,,mid 60's thru ?? 81? Mostly NOS and used CDI's,and coils for the 4 plug Tigers. Some blue dashes..Chains and sprockets,,etc.. Some taillights. I've heard this is a HUGE market,,but never looked into it.

[El Camexican]

A crated trike is like a 100 year old collectable bottle of wine. Great to look at, fun to talk about, but if you like to drink or ride neither will make for a good weekend.

[bkm]

,ohh crap,,,I don't have pics,,so it was a dream. Never happened..Dammit! I take that as a shot directly over my bow so lets compare apples to apples here Bill and I didn't know this debate has moved into all things motorized. I also know of a sh!t ton of stand up jet ski's and wave runners that are still in the crates. Wanna know why, because just like a sled they have a very limited environment that they can be used in. It doesn't snow all year round just like there isn't water everywhere so the demand is super low for these machines. Unlike three wheeler's that were bought and sold all over the damn world. So I guess because there are sleds and ski's still laying around in the crates that must equate to all things with an engine?

I never called you a liar and welcomed the revealing of these bikes that you claimed to exist. But then you yourself said that you have never laid eyes on them personally. Sorry if I'm a guy who doesn't go around counting my chickens before they hatch.

I'll just say this and then I'm done. Andy put his money where his mouth was and until somebody steps up like he did this is a sh!t thread as far as I'm concerned.

[atc007]

I'm not having a debate Bryan. I am different. Maybe an trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro hole? Maybe,,easy going,Whatever I am. I've seen it here a million times. You are,I guess ,,fair? I suck at words!! When " kids" or anyone I feel is just running their mouth talk,about ANYTHING,,Including crated 3 wheelers. I,,,,Ignore it,,and move on. You,Fabio,,others,,,Debate,,,try to talk sense into them.. Go down to their level if you will. I don't. I can't, I won't. I move on and it's water off my back. I just PITY anyone that has to see pics and evidence to agree that something happened. Much the way I pity myself for not taking pics of our farming days,,Myself,Dad,Mom,my Brother,,the equipment we had etc.. We do pretty well w the kids now,and I do wish Every day of my life was documented,,but it's not. You went on and on about ,,WHY a Big Red,,directly questioning me. Well,it didn't bother me,,and maybe?? you hit fairly close as to the reason these machines are where they are. But,,I aint saying ! Not yet. So,you'll remain humble,I'll remain hopeful,and I've still got your back man !

[keister]

Theres a Christmas 70 over in indy at a Honda shop seen it Saturday

Still in the crate??

[thestud25]

Yes, it would be cool for some more to pop up. However, all these stupid "Crate" Threads and "1987 250r/350x" threads do is get people all butt-hurt and bent out of shape. Bill, I hope you are correct, and there are in fact more out there.

[El Camexican]

Ok guys, lets everyone get a big glass of water and take one of these. Life is short and three wheelers are scarce!
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[TatTooL23]

man this site has really lost its traction, and draw if u ask me. really sucks that this is the shining example for 3 wheelers...

i go on here and check things out and will continue to, but slowly and surely becoming less and less of a user that gives any feedback or answers anything or posts at all.

[TheBlueWale]

Wow,you're not kidding. I hadn't clicked on the pic till now,,,she is Filthy! I understand not wanting to wash it depending on it's climate. But I would and soak her down with preservative.

Bill, I think that towel is supposed to be the cover "tarp" for the Tri-Z. I remember in Andy's 250r auction that he had mentioned something about a oil or preservative that was supposed to prevent rust while they transported the bikes on boats across the ocean so salt wouldn't affect them, in a way you would be taking away from it's original crated condition if you would clean off that oil/preservative, even though dust did get caught up into it.

Also, something else to consider is that over a million 3 wheelers were made and all of them were shipped in the "crate" so it's not that unlikely that there are a few hundred or even a thousand(or maybe even just the double digits as opposed to the 2-3 that are currently known) still out there. Seeing that Kawasaki uncrated an 87 Tecate, they may still have many left as well as the other big 3. Collectors may have a few, there may be some in old dealerships, warehouses, storage units, truck trailers, freights, or even in a sunken boat, but if no pics are shared or if the owner doesn't make it public then it still remains unknown.

I'm not trying to stir up a hornets nest on here, but you can't rule out the possibilities, If I remember right Mike at VMS posted something on here about 2 us90's still in the crates, but the owner refused to sell them.

[atc007]

Yes,,All new machines,,even Chinese 2 hour throw aways,,come with a very nice ' grease" sprayed all over them. I have went for up to 2 years on my Brothers and Dads Quads without disturbing the grease on the rims. Pressure wash,,but no washing or wiping. I 'm chasing a monumental find at the moment. Will probably come up dry,,but I won't know until I have tried. It's HUGE : )

[TheBlueWale]

is this monumental find going to have this "grease" on it?


Yes,,All new machines,,even Chinese 2 hour throw aways,,come with a very nice ' grease" sprayed all over them. I have went for up to 2 years on my Brothers and Dads Quads without disturbing the grease on the rims. Pressure wash,,but no washing or wiping. I 'm chasing a monumental find at the moment. Will probably come up dry,,but I won't know until I have tried. It's HUGE : )

[atc007]

Lol,,sort of.. I just took a BIG hit in the gut,,that what I seek is long gone,,,3 years ago. But I'm not giving up till I've looked down the horses throat. Then I'll spill the beans.

[Buster Brown]

Talk talk talk.....???
Please save the bravose talk till you actually find something to SHARE (pics).
It's just getting real old Bill. Sorry.
-Andy