Atc90 on American restoration tonite

[pinstriper]

The latest episode of the restoration of a US90 three wheeler runs tonite.. They ordered parts from www.hondaatc70.com and decals from www.atc70decals.com don't miss it! ;)


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[1985BigRed250ES]

it comes on at 930CST tonite if you are on dish

[thestud25]

I have my DVR set.

[badass350x]

what about Direct tv?

[Jon Boy]

i got direct and same time just differant channel number is all. :beer

anyone see the funky 3wheeler car on American Pickers las'night?

[aldochina]

damn, i missed it, also forgot to dvr the dream team special on espn!!

[atc350xer]

Watching it right now... $6800 for a restore...
hehehe... $1000 for a used front balloon tire... whew!

[Jon Boy]

that's what i was thinking, $6800 and another $1000 for a front tire and the tire looked almost flat too. :wondering

[atc350xer]

It looked awesome, but $7800? I wonder what it cost to have someone like VMS do something like that? Rick made it look good, but VMS makes it factory correct... has to cost more.

[badass350x]

Not to mention that 1000 tire looked like it still had a big crack in the bottom of it when they zoomed in on it at the end.

[Jon Boy]

hmm... so i wan't the only one to see that "crack" almost looked like it was stabbed with a knife to me. i didn't record it, but i want to watch it again to see if that is what i saw.

[badass350x]

hmm... so i wan't the only one to see that "crack" almost looked like it was stabbed with a knife to me.

That's exactly what it looked like lol!

[atc350xer]

I recorded it, have to go back and look

[pinstriper]

Also... it's a 40yr old tire.. He made some money on that $1,000 price of the tire.. BUT ..a used one in that shape is $750-$1,000.. find a nice one.. $2,000-2,500... find a NEW 40yr old us 90 front tire.. expect to pay $3,500- $4,500... They are afterall no longer available .. and hard to find in decent shape with no cracks or dry rot.. and yes Mike at Vintage would have done a factory correct resto.. but that is TV for ya :( .. But hey.. The atc made mainstream TV and that alone is worth a "Hell YA!"

[Mickey Dunlap]

That was crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm glad I sold mine,it needed all 3 tires. And that tire was junk,they had to have put some green slime in it to hold air.

[pinstriper]

No... that tire is not meant to be ridden on the rocks in Vegas.. but merely to sit in a shop or garage on display.. They turned down the $1000 tire.. to make a buck :(.. like a lot of bucks... a lot...

[El Camexican]

"expect to pay $3,500- $4,500" I can only think of one item made of rubber I'd pay that much for. A condom, but then I'd need a time machine to get back to 1985 to put it on...

[pinstriper]

Is the a "like" button somewhere on here? LOL!

[tri again]

i got direct and same time just differant channel number is all. :beer

anyone see the funky 3wheeler car on American Pickers las'night?

super cute, tiny french 2 stroke? with pull start ropes in the dashboard like the old saab

[tri again]

History channel W (HISTW) at 10:30 pacific time for the 1972 honda atc American Restoration

[350XJEDI]

:DI can,t wait !! I've seen the pickers walk past three wheeler parts and projects sevaral times now!!:wondering then they buy the dumbest stuff :wonderingand make up a high price!!:rolleyes: rick does good work but $$$$ it's kinda stupid to pay that much for a" paintjob ", still fun to watch ,..:cool::beer:beer

[kb0nly]

I keep wondering how he is in business charging $5k for a vending machine refurb or $3k for a Coke cooler... But to each his own. There was a discussion ad nauseum over on a lawn tractor forum that i visit now and then about the Bantam tractor restore he also did a while back. Most discussing that said they could buy 2-3 of the same tractor for his price.

[tri again]

I think I saw what looked like a handlebar lock like on the old trail 90's.

Phone rang right in the middle of the show so I didn't hear it all.

A resto of that price would be for a wall hanger for a dealership or bar
and then buy a 6 pack of regular 90's to ride and get dirty for 1/6th the price imo.

[redskinman]

I just finished watching it then jumped on here to see if anybody had posted about it.Yeah Ricks prices are high but i enjoy his show,the man does quality work and his knowledge base is pretty unbelievable

[pinstriper]

In plain english.. Have your item (on this case your us90) "restored" by some dude = $3800-$4800 BUT... Have your item "restored" by a "celebrity" on tv.., and get your mug on tv...well now that comes with a hefty price tag.. Hence the $7800 price tag .. Think about it..

[vintagemotorsports]

Oh yea i got to see the show last night as well, Man after seeing that disaster My prices are way too cheap (LOL) . they took an almost 100% original 1970 US90 and turned it into a turd. I wish they would show more of them actually doing the restoration so we can see what they actually do , but I am willing to bet that nothing came off the main frame and got restored notice they never really pan around the underneath or engine of the bike just the new shiny yellow paint and seat that looked like it was floating 6 inches off the rear fenders . this crap kind of makes me sick , I like the fact that a US90 made it on tv that gives the bike some credit but to call this a restoration and charge pretty much what I charge for 2 months of hard work and building a bike from the ground up not missing a single detail is crazy. I do enjoy the show but it gives the general public who dont know the wrong image of what a true restoration is . this was basically a paint job with a way off black tank stripe and a floating seat bars bent up like a harley and probably a half ass engine overhaul. crazy

[El Camexican]

It is a good show to watch, I like it a lot, but much of that stuff is set up for the cameras. A friend of mine appears on Ice Road Truckers occasionally and does a lot of things behind the scenes and he says most of it is rigged which is why every crash scene is filmed from ten angles. Again, I like Rick’s show (especially the way he doesn’t flip out like old man Teutul, I worked for a guy like that, hate it!), but I'm sure he does a lot of studying up before he talks about the inner workings and history of some of the things they get in there, how could he not? I'll add "Rides" is a slap in the face for restoration guys. I'm guessing there are either a few dozen part & labor sourcing guys we never hear about working behind the scenes, or those projects take a lot longer that we ever hear about. Thanks to that show guys now routinely show up at my friends body shop with a gutted out Mustang on a trailer and ask if it can be restored for a special occasion that's coming up in two weeks. At least Rick’s time frames are realistic and he’s a hands on guy.

[Lord Letto 20]

Damn, to bad it only came on in the US, not in Canada.

[Big Mike]

Yeah thats the one thing that drives me crazy about these build/restoration shows on TV, "I need it in 2 weeks", "No Problem, we can do that". It is all BS, there is no way that any of these places depicted on these shows are finishing builds in 2 weeks. I watch the shows about West Coast Customs quite a bit, and I am always paying attention to the cars that are sitting around the shop when they are filiming and you will see cars that were on the show 2-3 seasons ago sitting on a lift next to a car they are working on "this week". It just makes people think they can do things like you said El Camexican, bring a car that needs a total resto to a show, and they have the gall to say, "I need this is 2 weeks." My response would always be, "Come back when you have 2 years", you cannot restore/build a car from the ground up in 2 weeks, I dont care who you are or what size crew you have. Something is going to get overlooked.

Has anyone seen, Jimmy Shine's show, Car Warriors, thats another one, they give each team a car that has had all the body work done and is sitting in primer, and they have 48 hrs with a team of 6 guys/girls to build a custom car out of it, complete with new engine. Another one that is pure BS.

[pinstriper]

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[El Camexican]

Damn, to bad it only came on in the US, not in Canada.

Yea, but look at the bright side, you've still got The Man From Snowy River playing in the theaters on weekend afternoons up there :)

[kb0nly]

I paused it a few times to study it... When he reveals it to the owner at the end there is a huge crack in the front tire... Also in some other shots when they are driving it around you can see gaps opening and closing in the front tire. Now i know these tires flex a lot, but i swear when the owner pulls up after riding it around that the front tire is wrinkled to the point of flat. I don't know why they didn't put newer tires on it, i know i know its not a purist restore then, but they said they want to actually ride it. I would have taken the original tires and stashed them away and put three new cheap tires on it and rode around on them. The seat looked wrong, i see others posted about it as well, its not sitting down on the fenders right. I wonder where they got the seat? Looked like a new cover they bought and i imagine the found the pan and foam on eBay or some such place. But the seat wasn't on there right somehow.

His prices are insane..

[atc007]

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I missed the episode. But Mike said the decals were horribly OFF... Are you bragging/ selling these that they used?

[maxdallasfan]

A few months ago, these guys: http://www.vintagemotorsports.net/ were taking orders for restored 90's. I emailed him and he said they cost $10,000. Apparently, he sells a lot of them. WTF.

[swampthang]

A few months ago, these guys: http://www.vintagemotorsports.net/ were taking orders for restored 90's. I emailed him and he said they cost $10,000. Apparently, he sells a lot of them. WTF.

He's a member on here. He posted on page 2 of this thread. His work is amazing. I didn't catch the episode about the 90. I was watching Duck Dynasty instead.:rolleyes: Heres a link if anyone wants to watch the ATC90 episode http://www.history.com/shows/american-restoration/videos/american-restoration-down-and-dirty#american-restoration-down-and-dirty

[Jon Boy]

A few months ago, these guys: http://www.vintagemotorsports.net/ were taking orders for restored 90's. I emailed him and he said they cost $10,000. Apparently, he sells a lot of them. WTF.
will have to agree with swampy on this. VMS has done factory correct restorations for Honda of Japan, his work is top notch. kinda says something when the company that made them can't find one good enough, so they have him build them one for themselves doesn't it? :beer

[vintagemotorsports]

just to be clear, I said the black tank stripes were way off these are painted on not decals , peewees decals are real nice i use his stuff all the time .

[vintagemotorsports]

I think the thing to point out here and im kind of backing rick up here , is he cannot be an expert on everything he restores plain and simple. look at the range of crap he gets in how can you possibly know every detail on every thing ever made , so i guess if you look at it that way he is going by what he thinks is correct. I know ATC90s inside and out but if you brought me a 1929 sewing machine to restore yea i could make it nice and pretty but Im sure not going to know every correct detail . for the average jow who just wants his old something to look shiny and new again he gets the job done , if you want it showroom new you go to a guy who lives and breathes the item you want done .

[pinstriper]

Werd! :)

And thanks for the compliments Mike..

[Mr. Clean]

The atc made mainstream TV and that alone is worth a "Hell YA!"


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They ordered parts from www.hondaatc70.com and decals from www.atc70decals.com don't miss it! ;)


Which one is it? Is this thread a celebration of the ATC or is it a way to promote your products and company?

We have a classified ads section and the 3 wheeler world parts shop to sell, oh wait you already have your own site...:rolleyes:

[maxdallasfan]

They are amazing. I'm just super jealous that I can't afford one! Maybe one day.

[pinstriper]

It was a joke..,we had to break for a commercial interruption.. Just like the tv program does that we're discussing :)
But to answer your question I plead the 5th

[jeswinehart]

The Mrs and I watched the tail end of the show. When they started talking bout the 1000 dollar tire she said to me that I have had those in the past (yes) and could her + I make them.
Absoultly girl, yes WE can, but we are NOT going to ~ good night.
I fell asleep listning to her go on about the how the mold should be so it fits into our current roto mold,,,, never know,,,, i might come home to find her spinning tires and what not.
I do not watch much t.v., (news at supper time is more then enough for me) got way better things to do but do thank you for the heads up on it airing, kinda interesting,,, to a point.

[Howdy]

The Mrs and I watched the tail end of the show. When they started talking bout the 1000 dollar tire she said to me that I have had those in the past (yes) and could her + I make them.
Absoultly girl, yes WE can, but we are NOT going to ~ good night.
I fell asleep listning to her go on about the how the mold should be so it fits into our current roto mold,,,, never know,,,, i might come home to find her spinning tires and what not.
I do not watch much t.v., (news at supper time is more then enough for me) got way better things to do but do thank you for the heads up on it airing, kinda interesting,,, to a point.

Let me add fuel to the fire. Tell her I have a tire or 2 she can pratice with. or I could just send her one. LMAO
Howdy

[bkm]

Let me add fuel to the fire. Tell her I have a tire or 2 she can pratice with. or I could just send her one. LMAO
HowdyWell it looks like you need to skip over the hired help (Sorry John:lol:) and go straight to the Boss and make this happen.:D

[atc007]

just to be clear, I said the black tank stripes were way off these are painted on not decals , peewees decals are real nice i use his stuff all the time .

Give me a minute while I remove my foot from my mouth please. Gonna watch it now.

[coolpool]

I could only see the first few minutes on the web for some reason. But the weird original tank color compared to the fenders got me thinking. Check out the pics of the US90 colors on the model box. It appears that a fifth 'gold' type paint was available? I realize they are only illustrations; I'm probably way off here:crazy:

[Howdy]

Well it looks like you need to skip over the hired help (Sorry John:lol:) and go straight to the Boss and make this happen.:D
Hmmm, John is too good of a friend for me to do that to him. But if John and his Boss is interested in doing these I will do my best to help.
Howdy

[bkm]

Hmmm, John is too good of a friend for me to do that to him. But if John and his Boss is interested in doing these I will do my best to help.
HowdyOh, I know it was more of a joke. But if there is one person out there that I would have the confidence in being able to pull it off, it would be John.

[Howdy]

Oh, I know it was more of a joke. But if there is one person out there that I would have the confidence in being able to pull it off, it would be John.
The hired hand told me the boss read this thread and loved it!!!

[aldochina]

brutal!! for that money, it looks like garbage!! cool to see it though!! bet that tire is flat when the guy pulls it off the truck at home!! I could see a 1000.00 for a nos tire, but for a dry cracked one with a 1.5 inch gash/flap that wont be worth a crap very long!! do like the show, i was just as excited about the gun!! pretty amazing!

[jeswinehart]

The hired hand told me the boss read this thread and loved it!!!

Oh BKM, that hired hand posting STILL has the Mrs. + I chuckling and will for a mighty long time to come :) ! Thank you for that.

john

[pinstriper]

Remember, its not a "$1,000 tire".. It's a $500 tire that held air they requested so they could mark it up and sell it to the customer for
$1,000...

[badass350x]

a 500 or a 1000 tire with s 1.5'' gash its still worthless IMO!!!!!

[Keepah Rolln]

It would be cool if they do a show on a 250 r or 350x complete rest!!!!even a 250 big red sx...Lets all email them and ask them to do more atc,s...:beer

[Flossyb20]

Makes me feel sooooo much better about the 2500 I'm spending on my uncle's 200e....and the tires won't have cracks in it.
EDIT...I'm not buying it, I'm restoring it for him...

[Jon Boy]

It would be cool if they do a show on a 250 r or 350x complete rest!!!!even a 250 big red sx...Lets all email them and ask them to do more atc,s...:beer

i don't think that would be the best idea. first, they have people coming in paying them to do the work, it's not like they pick and choose what project to work on. second, more stuff like this episode and i could see prices climbing faster and higher than they already are. i keep pictureing people who don't care about anything other than making as much as they can off people expecting to get over top dollar for some parts they wouldn't of even thought twice about before.

maybe it's just me, but that's the way i feel. :beer

[pinstriper]

I've had friends pull up on Craigslist complete atc's for $200 with nice tires... Umm.. excuse me.. we're talking US90 FRONT balloon tires... not tires on an atc110.. REAR us90 tires are more common.. On a side note .. it called business.. people are in business to make money... not go broke.. although some folks go into business and go broke..

:( this horse is now dead..

[bkm]

Oh BKM, that hired hand posting STILL has the Mrs. + I chuckling and will for a mighty long time to come :) ! Thank you for that.

john No problem. I love seeing both of you working together and sharing in the same hobby. Think of how much better this country would be if more married couples shared the same passions for one hobby, no matter what it may be. Keep up the great work both of you. I was serious when I said if any home hobbyist would be able to pull off a repop of those tires it would be both of you.

:beer:beer:beer

[aldochina]

Makes me feel sooooo much better about the 2500 I'm spending on my uncle's 200e....and the tires won't have cracks in it.

no 200e is worth 2500!! not even a nos one!! maybe you meant 250.00!

[El Camexican]

no 200e is worth 2500!! not even a nos one!! maybe you meant 250.00!

"worth" maybe not, but its real easy to spend that much and more on a good rebuild and pretty up and that's doing most of it yourself.

[rdlsz24]

I watched the episode on DVR yesterday, I figured there would be a thread on here about it. I love the show, I think I have seen every episode. I don't know if I have ever seen an estimate under a grand, even when the thing being brought in by the customer only needed blasting and a paint job lol. They do good work and I like when they restore the old Coke machines or candy dispensers the best. They did a restore on a vintage Spanish dirt bike a couple weeks back for a Nascar driver and it looked pretty good to me.

Rob

[Flossyb20]

no 200e is worth 2500!! not even a nos one!! maybe you meant 250.00!
I would never pay that for one...but my uncle bought it new in 83, he gave it to me last month and told me to "make it new", and gave me a check for 2G's to get it done. After nos fenders, switches, chainguards, headlight, powdercoating, zinc and chrome...I'm up to about 1900...still need to get the paint and top end rebuilt...but it will be "new"...I'll be sure to put some pics up when I get all the parts back (in it's own thread of course)

[atc007]

no 200e is worth 2500!! not even a nos one!! maybe you meant 250.00!


I have a couple that damn sure ARE !! :beer ;)

[Jon Boy]

I watched the episode on DVR yesterday, I figured there would be a thread on here about it. I love the show, I think I have seen every episode. I don't know if I have ever seen an estimate under a grand, even when the thing being brought in by the customer only needed blasting and a paint job lol. They do good work and I like when they restore the old Coke machines or candy dispensers the best. They did a restore on a vintage Spanish dirt bike a couple weeks back for a Nascar driver and it looked pretty good to me.

Rob
yeah that was Greg Biffle's old Montesa (my Cup driver btw and as John Roberts always says, STICK WITH THE BIFF!! :lol: ) kicking myself for missing that one. guess i'll wait till they re-air it. :rolleyes:

[Jeepermc]

yeah that was Greg Biffle's old Montesa (my Cup driver btw and as John Roberts always says, STICK WITH THE BIFF!! :lol: ) kicking myself for missing that one. guess i'll wait till they re-air it. :rolleyes:

I watched that one on on-demand when I was looking for the ATC episode on-demand....still waiting for the ATC episode.

[blue27]

thats a Matchless

[blue27]

thats a Matchless but I will still give you credit for at least knowing what a vintage bike is,lol

[Jeepermc]

thats a Matchless but I will still give you credit for at least knowing what a vintage bike is,lol

The Montesa is a matchless?? this one? http://thefinallap.com/2012/06/06/greg-biffle-on-american-restoration-tonight-history-channel/

[rdlsz24]

Biffle called it a Montesa and his family had owned it for about 30 years :wondering

Rob

[Scootertrash]

Reality TV isn't real. ;)

[KI4UJO]

Reality TV isn't real. ;)
This, no sane person pays $10,000 for something with a flat tire