Tecate dies when warmed up?

[kokmatt]

I gotta 84 tecate that starts real good and runs good but after about 10 mins of riding it will just die. i let it sit and it will start no prob. I think it is a float prob as i have clear gas lin and it doesnt seem to be flowing through. only happens when i let off gas never at wot. carb is stock has dg exhaust and pod filter. I have a keihn pj flatslide that i would like to install but not sure what cable to use to do this with. stock cable doesnt fit? also how does one know if you got your float adjusted correctly just bend tap till gas come out of overflow then bend back little at a time till it stop flowing out of over flow?

[yamaha driver]

find the factory settings and use a feeler to figure the float issue out. they are problay set to low. you can try to just bend the tab a little and see if it helps then you know. but it could also be the cdi or stator since they will make it die when they warm up.

[Yamaha_Rules69]

A couple other ideas would be the vent in the fuel tank cap. Make sure its clear, blow it out with compressed air. If its clogged, the fuel wont flow through the line. Other likely cause would be the coil. Most of the time when a bad coil gets warm, it will not produce spark, or not enough to run properly. Im thinking it wouldnt be a fuel level issue at the float, as it would either run funny all the time, run out the overflow, or run out of gas at WOT.

[kokmatt]

shouldnt the gas line basically always be full seems like when i dies the gas line is always empty. coil will be my next step. anyone know what cable to use on the keihn carb?

[nd4speed]

Having ridden with similar issues like dying when hot, my guess is weak stator or electrical problem. What? On a Tecate? Go figure....

[fabiodriven]

x2 of what nd4speed said. I've been down that road as well. It's not completely impossible for it to be the coil, but I highly doubt it.

[motoman1012002]

check the top end to for comperson

[just ben]

The thing that sticks out to me is you say the fuel line is empty when it dies. as said before make sure the vent on the gas cap is clear an the petcock is clear. I have had a couple petcocks that were oxidized badly and partially block the flow. to eliminate or confirm the stator download the service manual and test it per the manual.

[kokmatt]

yea the petcock is clear as is the vent line. I do have a rebuild stator laying around that i could toss in there. compression is real strong and always starts on first or second kick. only dies when i am coming to a stop and rpms go down. like i said earlier though shouldnt gas line be full most of time. I have never really paid much attn to the line until it started dying. gonna adjust float today. if that doesnt help gonna throw in rebuilt stator. again any ideas on what cable to use on a keihn pj carb stock tecate one doesnt work? I would like to run this carb anyway rather than stock since they are suppose to give better throttle response.

[nd4speed]

I have an inline filter on my gas line and it or the lines never look full of gas.

[rdlsz24]

I had a sled that ran like crap when it got warm and it was the stator going out

Rob

[Dirtcrasher]

More than likely the (POS) Tecate, has an ignition part that fails once warmed up........

Sorry to brutal!

[kokmatt]

yea didnt get a chance to work on it today but am gonna try switching out stator when i get a chance.

[just ben]

More than likely the (POS) Tecate, has an ignition part that fails once warmed up........

Sorry to brutal!point of sale? I agree that the ignition is junk but are great machines otherwise

[ama009]

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but as a new tecate owner i would like to know what dirtcrasher meant by POS?! : ) back to topic... My tecate shut offon me a couple times after warm. What would be the suggested fix? Is the ricky stator a viable option? Can a cdi from a tri z work?

[Dirtcrasher]

Respectfully, I do not care for them. The radiator up high is asking for trouble and for some reason they never seem to get the stator/flywheel working.

I didn't mean to pick on your trike.

[barnett468]

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but as a new tecate owner i would like to know what dirtcrasher meant by POS?! : ) back to topic... My tecate shut offon me a couple times after warm. What would be the suggested fix? Is the ricky stator a viable option? Can a cdi from a tri z work?


Hello ama009


My tecate shut offon me a couple times after warm. What would be the suggested fix?

Do the tests listed below

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Is the ricky stator a viable option?

Yes

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Can a cdi from a tri z work?

Doubt it, but if the wiring is exactly the same all you can do is try it and possibly damage something.

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More than likely the (POS) Tecate, has an ignition part that fails once warmed up........
Sorry to brutal!

Respectfully, I do not care for them.

That’s ok.

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The radiator up high is asking for trouble

I never experienced a problem with them during around 300 hours of R and D testing plus another 100 hours of testing on 2 identical machines side by side plus another additional 100 hours of racing and never heard of a warranty claim for one.

xxxxx

for some reason they never seem to get the stator/flywheel working.

Same reply as above.

National and series champion Jimmy White, Chris White or Donnie Luce ever experienced 1 single stator failure if I remember correctly.

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I didn't mean to pick on your trike.

Honda owner!

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Here’s how to test coil and stator before simply replacing them or blaming them as the cause of a problem. Test them cold and hot.


Pg 14-6 86 tecate manual

http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/Kawasaki/1986_KAWASAKI_TECATE_SUPPLEMENT.pdf

stator

Bk-bl = 170-250 ohm

Bk-wr = 165-280 ohm

Bl-wr = 20-30 ohm


Coli

+ to - = .25-.35 ohm

+ to plug lead = 5-7.5 k ohm


CDI – Can not be tested

[ama009]

Dirtcrasher - No offense taken Dirtcrasher! It is all good! I am really happy with it. I just need to learn its in and outs as all models (honda, yamaha, kawa) have their tricks.

Barnett - Thanks for your invaluable input! I have been reading a bunch of threads on the Tecate and never found a definitive solution to the issue. I will try your suggestions and update. Thanks Again!

[barnett468]

Dirtcrasher - No offense taken Dirtcrasher! It is all good! I am really happy with it. I just need to learn its in and outs as all models (honda, yamaha, kawa) have their tricks.

Barnett - Thanks for your invaluable input! I have been reading a bunch of threads on the Tecate and never found a definitive solution to the issue. I will try your suggestions and update. Thanks Again!


Thanks you're certainly welcome, sometimes the manual is the best source of information. The manual does NOT say to test them hot which it should.


"CDI – Can not be tested"

I forgot about my own CDI test, lol. It is the only way I know how to test one. If you have a bike that runs better cold than it does when ti is hot one can remove the CDI from the hot bike once it starts running bad and place it into the refridgerator [not the freezer] next to the left over pepporoni pizza for 15 minutes and try it again. If the bike runs better until the CDI gets hot again the CDI is bad.

[nd4speed]

CDI rarely goes bad. Not saying it isnt possible but they are sealed in that box.

[ama009]

Lmao! Nice Barnett! Too funny. Thanks again! Cdi's seem to be hard to come by and $$$$

[barnett468]

Lmao! Nice Barnett! Too funny. Thanks again! Cdi's seem to be hard to come by and $$$$


HELLO AMA009

Yes they are but please follow the instructions carefully, if you don't have the Boboli in the fridge too the test won't work!.

[just ben]

There is a cdi test in the manual but I have never had one test within spec and they all worked fine.

[barnett468]

There is a cdi test in the manual but I have never had one test within spec and they all worked fine.


Hello

Yes, that's basically what I meant I just didn't elaborate, sorry about that. There was a previous post that said they have 1 capacitor, 1 transistor, 1 diode, and 3 resistors or so but the guy gave up trying to make one because some of the parts had no id on them, lol. $20.00 in parts.

[ama009]

Bringing this thread back to life cause i am having issues with my tecate! I put a brand new ricky stator in about 3 months ago and now i lost spark again. Why is this thing burning up stators? Short? Cdi? Wiring? Should i replace the harness? Just looking for suggestions because i am tired of this and i would really like to use my tecate an it not die on me every 3 months. I appreciate the help from you guys! I want this baby to work correctly!!!

[ama009]

Anyones Tecate running good? Starting another thread if no one chimes in. I know this is probably a repetative subject, but i have read the old threads and didnt see one that had the trouble im having.

[just ben]

send it back,It's still under warranty if its only been 3 months.I have had my share of bad tecate stators and it seemed every one had some evidence of moister under the cover. The last one I replaced I sealed The cover with hondabond including the grommet through the case and a squirt in the top of the wire cover to make sure it was water tight. I havn't had any issue since in over a year. (the longest yet for a t3 stator for me)

[ama009]

Thanks ben! So it is not that i should replace anything else? It is just a stator battle with moisture.