My new 70 project

[murfman]

I picked up an aborted project 70 in a group of 3 70s in various stages of disrepair 2 weeks ago, and have been making some headway. It came with a 3" extended frame and a Lifan 140 Manual clutch, but was completely disassembled. I was not sure exactly how the extension was done so I added a "backbone" to the top of the frame rail to reinforce it. I also added one of Gordy's foot brake kits and foot pegs as well. I did not like the big gap in front of the fuel tank, as it was left in the stock position relating to the seat, so I moved the tank forward 1 1/2", and made the rear seat / fender so it could be moved forward 1 1/2" as well or by removing a spacer in back, moved back to the stock location. Here are some pics:

Here I added a piece of 3/16 2" angle to the top of the frame tube, it clears the tank nicely and should help carry my "Portly" physique:lol:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02769.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02772.jpg

I picked up some 8mm nut serts:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02771.jpg
and added them to the frame 1 1/2" forward of the stock holes
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02770.jpg
Brake pedal
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02773.jpg
I also made a stainless bracket to mount the oil cooler to the head
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02774.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02775.jpg

My Camera crashed so I did not get pics of the seat spacer.

Here is a thought I have about the kick starter, I am thinking about cutting off the splined section of the kicker and weding it to a 1/2" drive socket with the square side facing out. Then I want to weld a leg to the foot peg that holds a bearing in line with the kicker near the outer edge of the footpeg. Then I would weld the remaining part of the kicker to a 1/2" extension. To start it I could insert the extension through the bearing into the socket mounted to the kicker shaft and kick away. Once started I would remove the extension and mount it to the grab bar and away I go. It might be a hassle but it seems better than doing a flip seat. If it does not work I will just go with plan B: and swap on a pull starter.

Once this is done I have 4 more 70s that I am going to build with 110 Lifan E start Auto clutch motors (The motors are in transit and should be delivered Friday) Yeah, I got bit by the 70 bug HARD

[atc350xer]

I got bit by the 70 bug HARD
Yeah you did! :lol: Nice start to a cool project though... love my 70's!

[dcreel]

Looking good.. I'm in the middle of a Lifan 125 manual atc70 build right now too

[murfman]

I did not get the extended frame back yet, however I did get my "ride red", and "Superbee" frames back.

These pics remind me of my plastic model kits when I was a kid:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02811.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02812.jpg

Got the Superbee up as a roller, with all the new bearings pressed in:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02813.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02817.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02818.jpg

[murfman]

How many CCA's do I need in the battery for the Lifan E start 110? I can't seem to find a direct answer online.

[dcreel]

Looking good man, looking good....

[DRKCYDE]

What exhaust are you going to run on the bike with the foot brake? I tore they guys at hondaatc70.com a new one for not telling me you couldnt run the stock exhaust anymore.

[murfman]

One of the cheapo Chinese ones from Ebay

[murfman]

Up to 3 rollers:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02828.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02829.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02830.jpg

[trizilla]

How many CCA's do I need in the battery for the Lifan E start 110? I can't seem to find a direct answer online.

go with the ytx4 style battery from dratv. you dont have to get it there but take a look. these fit nicely into a 70 chasiss and can be had for under $50. $35.00 if you know someone:D

[murfman]

go with the ytx4 style battery from dratv. you dont have to get it there but take a look. these fit nicely into a 70 chasiss and can be had for under $50. $35.00 if you know someone:D

I ordered one of the Ballistic EVO2 batteries, it is a little spendy (90.00 shipped), but I ordered it based on size, it is very small, and I can mount it outside the frame under the seat fender above the chain, and it weights less than a pound. It will fit inside a piece of 3x3 .125 wall box tube with room for foam padding around it and is only 4 1/4" long.

http://www.ballisticparts.com/products/batteries/4cell.php

According to the specs it has twice the Amp-Hr rating and more than double the cranking amps. They are only supposed to lose 10% of their charge over a full year as well.

[blue27]

I just put one of the ballistics in my CT70 with a Lifan 110 e start and it is perfect!!! I have one for the 300ex and Gonna be getting more for future builds.

[murfman]

I just put one of the ballistics in my CT70 with a Lifan 110 e start and it is perfect!!! I have one for the 300ex and Gonna be getting more for future builds.

What size did you use for the CT 70? The 4 cell?

[blue27]

yeah the 4 cell works good

[daniel_250r]

very nice I'm in the middle of putting a 125 giovanni engine in my 70 picking up the carb wiring and cdi this weekend. will the stock 70 exhaust work/ run ok i like quiet!

[murfman]

Well I got the yellow one running, I screwed up the paint on the tank and need to repaint it ( the clear I used did not like the yellow base coat and wrinkled it, so I said the heck with it and put it on, and filled it with gas before the clear totally cured when I got it running, gas leaked out of the cap and screwed up the already screwed up clear even more and it turned black!), but the 110 pulls my fat trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro along damn good, it is a wheelie machine for sure. After I get the red one running I will pull the tank off and repaint and clear it correctly. I will take some pics tomorrow. I hope to have the 3 of them running by the weekend, then # 4 will be next week, and I will tear down # 5. With the 110 running so well I really can't wait to see how the 140 Manual clutch motor does.

[murfman]

My Niece came over to help brake in the motor...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/photo2.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/photo4.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/photo7.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/photo8.jpg

It passed her test with flying colors.

[Xowner]

my niece came over to help brake in the motor...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/photo4.jpg


it passed her test with flying colors.

priceless!!!!!!

[murfman]

Shake down run for #2 Big (Headlight) Red

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/BigRed1.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/BigRed2.jpg

2 down, 3 to go...

Good thing it has a 110, it is going to need those extra 40ccs to carry the headlight lol

[Jon Boy]

Good thing it has a 110, it is going to need those extra 40ccs to carry the headlight lol

:lol: you ain't kidding! :lol: :beer

[atc350xer]

I love the giant headlight! What's it from?

[55stone`]

awesome 70's.. going to make me go get mine this weekend and get on it.. lol keep them coming :-)

[murfman]

I love the giant headlight! What's it from?

It is a Bosch off road light I have had around for years. I bought 8 of them at a swap meet years ago and have had them on many trucks and Jeeps I've owned over the years. I was down to my last pair on my Wrangler and one got a stone chip in the lens so I ended up wit a single left. It is a 8" diameter lens with a nice pattern. I have not wired it up yet, as I cant decide were to put the switch.

[coolpool]

Awesome looking machines! Love the pics of your niece putting it through it's paces.

"Last month I saw Van Halen Live with Diamond Dave out front, got home and rode my 3Wheeler, is it 1985 or 2012?
Ride Red (Even if its black)"

Hey Murf I went to the concert in Edmonton, pretty cool show. Wasn't too keen on 'Kool and the Gang' for an opener though?

Next stop, Metallica in August:w00t:

[murfman]

Awesome looking machines! Love the pics of your niece putting it through it's paces.

"Last month I saw Van Halen Live with Diamond Dave out front, got home and rode my 3Wheeler, is it 1985 or 2012?
Ride Red (Even if its black)"



Hey Murf I went to the concert in Edmonton, pretty cool show. Wasn't too keen on 'Kool and the Gang' for an opener though?

Next stop, Metallica in August:w00t:

I was actually surprised by how many Kool and the Gang songs I new. I actually thought they were pretty good, and enjoyed seeing someone I never would have bought tickets for. DLR was awesome and I have been rocking out with the new album since it was released.

[Thorpe]

Digging the Big Red Head! What tires are those? About to order a lifan 125 for my 70!

[murfman]

Those are swamp fox tires.

I got "Pinky" as far as being a roller today, but went to a cookout this afternoon so I did not finish it

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/pinky1.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/pinky2.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/pinky3.jpg

[Jon Boy]

:naughty: you know she's gonna love that! :lol: :beer

[murfman]

Found a nice scrap sheet of 3/16" UHMW at one of my customers today, so I whittled these up this evening:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/83BB3E85.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/CCF30B1E.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/6B7CDC51.jpg

They were nice enough to stock 1/4" stainless flathead screws as well :D

[Thorpe]

^^ Very cool... Whats the candy apple red one going on?

[murfman]

^^ Very cool... Whats the candy apple red one going on?

This one, it has an extended frame:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/DSC02830.jpg
It WAS going to be a 140CC Manual clutch, but I sold that motor to order a 150CC E start Piranha only to find out the 150 is on back order for 60-90 days. At least it will give me time to get the other 4 dialed in and everything ready so I can have it running right after the motor shows up.

[Thorpe]

Guess I missed the candy frame, under the black tank and plastics! I have a stock 70 motor you can use till your 150cc shows up! :naughty::naughty:

[murfman]

Some pics of the exhaust on the machines I have together so far:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/D4E3A9F7.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/FC418BD7.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/5DD9C4E9.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/7C2E5564.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/30E93BFB.jpg

The business side of the frame with all the electronics:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/A9F59191.jpg
Relay/Ballistic battery/CDI, and the rectifier is mounted on the seat mount. I have the start switch mounted to the fender right under the seat and the kill switch in the stem bolt for the forks.

And Yes I did color coordinate the battery cables, whit on the pink and white, yellow on the yellow, and red on the red one, the red, white, and blue one, and the black and candy one.

[murfman]

Up to 4 out of 5 running, got the Red, White and Blue one done except for the bottom plate and foot pegs. The pegs are at the powder coaters now.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/8D77F10E.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/20AEF435.jpg

And I found this in my parts stash and put it on my "SuperBee70"
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/E1DD1DCA.jpg

The 150 Piranha E start is still on the slow boat from China...

[Jon Boy]

i'm seriously digging that Red, White and Blue. looks awesome murf. :beer

[murfman]

I think it is my favorite so far as well, I really like the way the gold wheels look with the R/W/B combo, and I think it looks like something Honda would have done back in the day.

[Jessman]

What kind of tires are you running on the red whit and blue bke, and what tires are on the pink bike?

The tires on the RWB bike look to be rounded like the stock knobbies, are they? if so I need info.

[Moby G]

Holy crap I love that RWB one. You are absolutely right on the gold wheels. Looks killer. Nice job on all of them.

[murfman]

What kind of tires are you running on the red whit and blue bke, and what tires are on the pink bike?

The tires on the RWB bike look to be rounded like the stock knobbies, are they? if so I need info.

The R/W/B one has Carlisle Trail Wolf tires and the Pink one has Kenda Scorpions

[gomer202]

those are some nice looking 70's, lookin to build mine up soon

[murfman]

Finally got the emblem for the red one
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/E2AF3400_zps3fa5c18c.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/F13D818C_zpsd848ab48.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x205/murfman_photo/ATCs/D79862C5_zps314d2ecc.jpg

It was on back order from Year One

The 150 E start motor is STILL on the slow boat from China GRRRR

[tri-Z ripper]

It is a Bosch off road light I have had around for years. I bought 8 of them at a swap meet years ago and have had them on many trucks and Jeeps I've owned over the years. I was down to my last pair on my Wrangler and one got a stone chip in the lens so I ended up wit a single left. It is a 8" diameter lens with a nice pattern. I have not wired it up yet, as I cant decide were to put the switch. check out http://www.hondaatc70.com/Pages/default.aspx they have a kill switch button for the center nut you can use as a switch for the light