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gus
04-17-2012, 12:36 PM
How can you make an 86 250r street legal in the state of az? its legal to drive 3 wheeled atvs on highways and public streets as long as you have the following 1. Turn signals 2 mirros and 3 a horn and you must take a mortocycle class (figures right) but quads don't anyways question is Would the stator be able to handle it the horn and turn signal?. Is there a kit? Or i 'em suppose to make it peace by peace :wondering Any help would be appreciated

Big Mike
04-17-2012, 12:54 PM
I suppose the stator could handle the extra load of turn signals and horn as long as you use LED directionals. Maybe you could make something like this work on the 250R http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baja-Designs-Dual-Sport-Kits-HONDA-CRF250X-CRF450X-NEW-/280861495144?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4164a64f68 Just change the bulbs out to LEDs.

gus
04-17-2012, 01:00 PM
I've seen that kit on rockymountainatvmc.com for about 200 bucks less but would it be better just to replace all bulbs instead on the hole front light assembly?

fabiodriven
04-17-2012, 01:15 PM
You're probably going to end up having to install a battery. At that point it won't really matter if you use LED's or not I'm guessing.

dougspcs
04-17-2012, 01:16 PM
If you are gonna put that much load on your electrical you really should install a battery/voltage regulator...

Like Fabio said..great minds!!!

Also, make sure every spec of paperwork is in order and ready to produce..I say you'll have flashing lights in your little tiny rear-views on a daily basis!

Mr. Clean
04-17-2012, 01:30 PM
Also, make sure every spec of paperwork is in order and ready to produce..I say you'll have flashing lights in your little tiny rear-views on a daily basis!


Feel free to read this PDF file at your leisure.

http://www.azgfd.gov/pdfs/outdoor_recreation/ohv/atv_brochure.pdf

Couple quick notes from the PDF file.



Equipment you need to
operate your OHV in Arizona:

◆◆ Helmet that is properly fitted, fastened and has
a USDOT safety rating for those under 18 who
ride on an OHV. Riders in an OHV such as an
ROV do not need helmets; however, it is recommended
that all OHV users wear a helmet.
(ARS § 28-1179B)
◆◆ Spark arrestor that is USDA approved.
(ARS § 28-1179A.4)
◆◆ Brakes adequate to stop and hold the
vehicle. (ARS § 28-1179A.1)
◆◆ Muffler or noise dissipative device that prevents
sound above 96 decibels during prescribed
stationary sound testing. (ARS § 28-1179A.3)
◆◆ Eye protection for operators of vehicles not
equipped with a windshield. (ARS § 28-964A)
◆◆ Headlights and taillights for use from dusk to
dawn. (ARS § 28-1179A.2)
◆◆ Safety flag at least 6” by 12” and 8 feet above the
ground on sand dunes or areas designated by the
land management agency. (ARS § 28-1179A.5)
◆◆ Brake light and at least one red rear reflector
(if taillight does not reflect). (ARS § 28-927)
◆◆ License plate securely fastened to the rear of the
OHV and clearly visible. (ARS § 28-2512D.1&2)
◆◆ Rearview mirror. (ARS § 28-964B)
◆◆ Seat and footrests for the operator and passenger
if vehicle is designed to carry a passenger.
(ARS § 28-964B)


To make your OHV street legal
you will also need:

◆◆ License plate light. (ARS § 28-925C)
◆◆ Horn audible from a distance of
at least 200 feet. (ARS § 28-954A)
◆◆ Proper insurance. (ARS § 28-4142A)
◆◆ Emissions: Certain areas may also
require you to have your OHV emissions
tested. (ARS § 49-542C&D)

Title-Only License Plate: The title-only license
plate is currently identified by the letters “RV”
displayed on it. This is an identification plate
and does not allow travel on roads that require
“street-legal” registration. (For exceptions see
www.azgfd.gov/ohv.)


Registration License Plate: The registration
license plate is currently identified by the letters
“MC” displayed on it. This “street legal” plate
does allow travel on roads, trails and areas on
which registration is required. It is your responsibility
to ensure that your vehicle meets the necessary
“street legal” requirements.

gus
04-17-2012, 01:42 PM
Ya no kidding dam police lol really a battery? So going led wouldn't matter how much would those extra lighting put out? I think the stock oem stator dishes out 100 watts or so? Maybe 150. Have any of you guys herd of a battery eliminator kit?

TtownJoeShow
04-17-2012, 01:49 PM
What about the 200w stators? Signal light is only what, 5w maybe 12w? No idea what a horn is...

Blown 331
04-17-2012, 01:58 PM
Most states don't require turn signals. Arizona is one that does not require them, and it says one mirror. http://www.bikerplaza.com/motorcycle-law.html Really all you need to add (in my opinion) is a stop light. Run a TRX450R tail light, they are LED.
But I don't think you will get it street legal. I've always heard you cant run a locked rear axle on the street.

gus
04-17-2012, 02:08 PM
I could sworn I read that you need turn signals? Idk I might have read wrong. Ill be going down there soon to get the title transfer to my name so ill ask what's the requirements for how to make a atv street legal

Mr. Clean
04-17-2012, 02:10 PM
But I don't think you will get it street legal. I've always heard you cant run a locked rear axle on the street.

Why not? Where in the list of things I linked that is published by the state of Arizona does it talk about the axle. I see quads all the time on the streets of Arizona.

gus
04-17-2012, 02:23 PM
I saw a quad the other day he flew right pass me

Blown 331
04-17-2012, 02:27 PM
I see quads on the street all the time too, they just aren't legal. No on here is an authority on this matter, just stating my opinion.

Mr. Clean
04-17-2012, 03:15 PM
I see quads on the street all the time too, they just aren't legal. No on here is an authority on this matter, just stating my opinion.

I understand you see them on the road illegally in Illinois, what I am telling you is FACT in Arizona. Arizona allows for street legal ORV's, I have posted factual information and links and you choose not to read up, fair enough.

I may not be the "authority" but I have done my research and homework, and every time I go get a title for my ATC's they ask "do I want to make it street legal?"

More information From this link:

http://www.ledtsk.com/AZOHVLawsRulesandRegs.pdf

"If the driver of an off-road vehicle intends to drive
on Arizona streets or highways, the vehicle must be
properly registered. An ATV must be street legal
before registration can be issued; some ATVs may
require additional equipment or modifications in
order to meet this requirement. To obtain registration,
you must visit an MVD office; you are not required
to bring the vehicle in to obtain registration."

Equipment needed
for registration

• At least one brake that can be operated by hand
or foot.
• Brake light.
• At least one, but not more than two, headlights
that shine at least 500 feet ahead.
• At least one taillight visible for at least 500 feet
to the rear.
• At least one red rear reflector, if not part of
the taillight.
• License plate securely fastened to the rear of
the ATV.
•License plate light.
• Horn audible from a distance of at least 200 feet.
• Muffler in good working order and in constant
operation. Muffler cutout, bypass or similar
device prohibited.
• Rearview mirror.
• Seat and footrests for the operator.
• Fuel tank cap.
• If you live in the Phoenix or Tucson metro
areas you may also need to have your ATV
emissions tested.

There are two plates you get for an ORV. One is the R/V and one is the M/C. The RV is strictly off road, the M/C may be street legal if you have the above list of requirements. Emissions testing and insurance to me is the biggest hurdle, not the axle, not street legal tires etc etc......Many of the riding areas in Arizona are fire roads or "maintained" roads and require the M/C plate to ride, which means they have to be "street legal", not just for off road use (RV plate).

Blown 331
04-17-2012, 03:55 PM
I stand corrected on my locked rear axle statement in the state of AZ.

dougspcs
04-17-2012, 04:09 PM
What about the 200w stators? Signal light is only what, 5w maybe 12w? No idea what a horn is...

It's not just a question of amount of wattage that can be generated because at idle the stator output will be half or less..

If you don't have a battery to stabilize the voltage the headlamp will be dimming with every flicker of the signals or beep of the horn.

DRKCYDE
04-17-2012, 09:00 PM
So what's insurance going to run you, and who is going to be daring enough to issue to such a death machine? Seems like it just wouldn't make sense to do after getting that info.

just ben
04-17-2012, 09:53 PM
i'm confused I n the first summary of rules it says that you have to have an emissions test and in the second it says you may need to if you live in pheonix or tucson? either way it is cool that you can even register an ohv for the street. makes me wonder how a street legal ohv would if at all transfer to ny? Also in the rules you posted I didn't see anything about dot tires?

badass350x
04-17-2012, 10:18 PM
i'm confused I n the first summary of rules it says that you have to have an emissions test and in the second it says you may need to if you live in pheonix or tucson? either way it is cool that you can even register an ohv for the street. makes me wonder how a street legal ohv would if at all transfer to ny? Also in the rules you posted I didn't see anything about dot tires?

Ben, this is the first set of rules!

To make your OHV street legal
you will also need:

◆◆ License plate light. (ARS § 28-925C)
◆◆ Horn audible from a distance of
at least 200 feet. (ARS § 28-954A)
◆◆ Proper insurance. (ARS § 28-4142A)
◆◆ Emissions: Certain areas may also
require you to have your OHV emissions
tested. (ARS § 49-542C&D)

just ben
04-17-2012, 10:34 PM
Ben, this is the first set of rules!

To make your OHV street legal
you will also need:

◆◆ License plate light. (ARS § 28-925C)
◆◆ Horn audible from a distance of
at least 200 feet. (ARS § 28-954A)
◆◆ Proper insurance. (ARS § 28-4142A)
◆◆ Emissions: Certain areas may also
require you to have your OHV emissions
tested. (ARS § 49-542C&D)got it I mis read or just didn't read close enough