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tulsamike3434
03-31-2012, 08:20 PM
am I missing something?


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Bryan Raffa
03-31-2012, 08:37 PM
Im gonna say a socket? whats the problem?

tulsamike3434
03-31-2012, 08:41 PM
That sucker won't budge! i even used some....

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tulsamike3434
03-31-2012, 08:44 PM
is there something better?

shortline10
03-31-2012, 08:56 PM
Air impact . make an investment in one :lol:

Scootertrash
03-31-2012, 08:57 PM
try an impact wrench? left hand thread maybe?Throw a little heat on it? If you try to heat it go easy since your staor/alternaor is back there. I use Kroil, but I have PB Blaster and a couple other penetrating oils too. I really like the Kroil.

dougspcs
03-31-2012, 08:58 PM
Electric impact is cheaper and not everyone has air..

philgipson
03-31-2012, 09:00 PM
check your service manual could be a left hand thread,harley is.

tulsamike3434
03-31-2012, 09:06 PM
Air impact . make an investment in one :lol:


God dang im a freaking retard! lol

shortline10
03-31-2012, 09:07 PM
Just a reg thread lefty loosey righty tighty LOL . Their are no backward threads on that motor .



check your service manual could be a left hand thread,harley is.

slaughter
03-31-2012, 09:15 PM
use a breaker bar or put a long pole on your ratchet if you dont have one
a fat friend to put there weight down on it doesnt hurt either :Bounce

Nubbinz
03-31-2012, 10:41 PM
Make sure your motor is held down nice and good, put your socket and ratchet on it, and turn your ratchet with a car jack. I shattered a cast iron ratchet trying to loosten brake callipers doing that though so dont use a nice one.

bkm
04-01-2012, 09:26 AM
"F" all the breaker bar/cheater bar/fatbrother/bumperjack 1-ton pickup crap. Get an impact and hold the flywheel with your hand and it will come right off. I've taken dozens of engines apart from all different manufactures and have never once had a flywheel give me a problem.

Invest in the right tools to do the job or you'll end up spending twice the amount on broken parts trying to do things the hard way. You go using breaker bars on things like this and what are you going to use to hold the flywheel? Guys go jamming crap in places where stuff like that doesn't belong and next thing you know you've got a broken case or something along those lines. Or s stripped flywheel nut, then where are you at?

250Eddie
04-01-2012, 10:01 AM
yea i wouldnt use a breaker bar, Id try and get an impact gun, its gonna help with a ton more things lol.

atc300r
04-01-2012, 10:10 AM
If you cant afford a impact .Some of your auto parts stores loan or rent them.

tulsamike3434
04-01-2012, 01:55 PM
Watch the language....
what now?

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tulsamike3434
04-01-2012, 01:57 PM
Im about to throw it in the trash!

mohadib
04-01-2012, 01:59 PM
How did you round it off?

tulsamike3434
04-01-2012, 02:04 PM
with the socket it calls for in the manual

Chazz of Blades
04-01-2012, 02:04 PM
Impact all the way.

When I took the nut off the Husky it took me a few days to get it. First time it'd EVER been off, and I tried ratchets and cheater bars, wrenches and hammers, everything.

I finally got my hands on the biggest honking half inch impact that I could, and spent nearly two hours pounding on it, but that sucker came off!


You might still be able to get an impact on that, I don't see a ratchet grabbing enough.

mohadib
04-01-2012, 02:06 PM
The cost of air tools is often cheaper than the cost of not having air tools :s Good luck with the nut.

tulsamike3434
04-01-2012, 02:08 PM
im trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro now that one is going in the trash heep and ill grab another one!

DasUberKraut
04-01-2012, 02:24 PM
Such a waste of good parts. Grind the edges flat and try again with air.

atc300r
04-01-2012, 03:58 PM
Use a good quality 6 point socket.It should be 17 mill.

tulsamike3434
04-01-2012, 04:06 PM
thats what I used

tri again
04-01-2012, 04:14 PM
I've seen worse.
I've also driven around with stuff like that in the truck and pull up to a shop
or 2.

Most mechanics love a challenge and bragging rights about their tools.
Some tire shop guy may run an airline out to your rig with a super expensive
impact setup and buzz it off.
Be glad the threads are still ok.
Worse case is to cut the nut off.
Air chisel in the correct direction ?
I have a nut splitter in the truck I got from HF for a few bucks and looks like it might fit on there.


we used to take off locking lug nuts like that faster than finding the special key tool.

Of course, there were no bearings to worry about.

so why are you going in there in the first place?

and we're all sure it's not reverse thread?

and what's that bs about mac or snap on that puts socket and wrench pressure
away from the edges of the nuts or bolts? 80's marketing at it's finest, as I recall.

Dirtcrasher
04-01-2012, 04:57 PM
Your socket must have slipped off.

You need in impact gun so you can put forwards pressure on it.

6 point, black impact socket........

bkm
04-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Your socket must have slipped off.

You need in impact gun so you can put forwards pressure on it.

6 point, black impact socket........

That is exactly what happened just like I said it would in my first post. I know air tools aren't cheap, but none of this stuff is. If you wanna play you gotta pay. Trying to do this stuff the knuckle busting way is like pissing in the wind.

jr315rn
04-01-2012, 05:52 PM
You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink

Dirtcrasher
04-01-2012, 06:39 PM
I think he's mighty thirsty :lol:

110klt
04-01-2012, 07:03 PM
Short story,

Guy accrost the street spent 3 days trying to get a bolt loose on a truck motor. I asked him if he had an air compressor, he replied yes. I handed him my impact gun and sockets. He was back in 5 minutes handing me back my stuff. I asked did it not work. He replied NO, guess it's off and I'm done.

Moral of the story, There is no substatute for the right tool.

Jason125m
04-01-2012, 07:29 PM
My question is, how did you round that nut with a 6 point socket?

110klt
04-01-2012, 07:31 PM
My question is, how did you round that nut with a 6 point socket?

not enough forward pressure and got it crooked on the nut. Been there, Done that.

yamaha driver
04-01-2012, 08:01 PM
if you have a hard time filing that use a standard socket a little smaller or mabey even a 1 size smaller metric socket that you do not need and pound it on. i got off a couple hub nuts that were almost round with this method

jr315rn
04-01-2012, 08:01 PM
Buy the correct tool for the job, if you dont have the tools do not take it apart.

hoosierlogger
04-01-2012, 08:22 PM
God dang im a freaking retard! lol

You said it. LOL

Scootertrash
04-02-2012, 12:36 PM
Now, now young man, there's no call for that kind of language! http://www.cool-smileys.com/images/2079.gif (http://www.cool-smileys.com/another-smiley-nodding-his-finger) http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/GottaLuvItMore/animated/slap.gif

twitch101
04-02-2012, 02:04 PM
buy a dremel, cut a relief to let some pressure off the threads...or...just finish it off with the dremel by cutting the nut in half. takes some finesse but a variable speed dremel with a good set of bits can be a life saver. also, its cheaper than a good impact. im not familiar with that motor at all so its up to you and others to figure out of it really is left hand thread. i lost a 350x crank by forcing a stake nut off the crank in my old 350x cause i didnt take the time to research properly.

HuffieVA
04-02-2012, 02:39 PM
Well I stripped that god dam motherfucking too ball trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro... what now?

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Invest in better sockets, Snap-On / Mac / Matco they aren't just fancy names they are designed to put the force on the sides of the nut unlike Craftsman or other store brand sockets that are just made to fit over the nut and put all the force on the corners. I've had many a stripped nut that a Craftsman socket would just spin on and a Snap-On would just grab on to what was left and off comes the nut...

tulsamike3434
04-02-2012, 02:43 PM
i bought an impact came right off!

tri again
04-02-2012, 03:40 PM
i bought an impact came right off!

YaY!!! Congrats
was it reverse thread or just stuck?

What's next?
stator? crank seal?

tulsamike3434
04-02-2012, 10:48 PM
YaY!!! Congrats
was it reverse thread or just stuck?

What's next?
stator? crank seal?

just stuck!

250Eddie
04-02-2012, 11:39 PM
ROFL should have gotten one right off the bat. :w00t: