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rdlsz24
03-23-2012, 09:48 PM
This procedure should apply to all 185 and 200 Honda trikes besides the 86-87 200x

I see questions come up about this every so often so I figured since I was going to be doing it I would document the process.

The first step that I don’t even have pictured here is to get your piston to TDC. If you don’t have the cam installed yet the exhaust and compression stoke hasn’t been determined so just have the T on the flywheel showing through the viewing hole. I usually remove the spark plug and look in the hole with a flashlight to verify the piston is at the top of its stroke.

If you do have the cam installed then to make sure you are on the compression stroke of TDC you still want to have the T showing, but you also want both rocker arms to be loose. This means if you remove the valve access caps on the head cover you can move the arms just a tiny bit.

Ok so now we have the piston at TDC. To make sure it stays there through the procedure, I always use my ½ ratchet on the end of the crank and put the handle resting against my work bench. If you don’t do this the piston tends to want to move back down in the cylinder.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/rdlsz24/ATC200x/DSCF4100.jpg

Whether you are just now installing the cam or already have it installed, it will have the lobes pointing down at this point and the little dowel pin should be pointing to about 11 o’clock. Now you are ready to install the cam chain onto the cam gear, and the gear onto the cam. Install the gear onto the cam with the little o pointing to 12 o’clock. At first you might get off a tooth or 2 and have to try again. Keep at it until you get the o pointing to 12.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/rdlsz24/ATC200x/DSCF4103.jpg

Next install the pulse generator base. The only thing to watch out for here is to not mess up the oil seal when slipping it over the little pin.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/rdlsz24/ATC200x/DSCF4104.jpg

Now you are ready to install the pulse rotor. The little slot on the backside of the rotor will fit over the dowel pin on the cam. This is the only way it can install so it’s hard to mess up. It will point slightly to the left of 12 o’clock when installed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/rdlsz24/ATC200x/DSCF4108.jpg

Finally it’s time to install the base plate. Before doing this you want to turn the crank so you get the F on the flywheel showing through the viewing hole. The F is about ½ inch to the left of the T on the flywheel. Do the same thing with the ratchet against the bench to make sure the piston doesn’t move again. Align the vertical line on the little black plastic box on the base plate with the vertical line on the rotor. They should both be pointing at about 12 o’clock. Tighten the screws.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/rdlsz24/ATC200x/DSCF4109.jpg

That’s really all there is to it. If you had the cam out you will want to adjust your valves, and you will want to adjust the cam chain if you slackened it to install the cam gear.

Any questions or corrections, please post them up.

Rob

Nubbinz
03-26-2012, 09:28 PM
Question : If the base plate is installed when the F is not visible, will the trike not spark, and as a result not run? I pulled the head cover on mine because it was leaking oil, shot honda bond around it and when i get it back together it wont spark. My 185s has been sitting at the edge of my woods getting rusty since summer :(. I Would like to get it running as Ive ridden some massive 4 wheelers but none were as fun as the little trike.

tulsamike3434
03-26-2012, 09:49 PM
Thank you for the how to!

RodKnockRacing
03-27-2012, 10:35 AM
great walk through this should definitely have a sticky in the world class help thead

Scootertrash
03-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Great Post!!

dougspcs
03-31-2012, 06:58 AM
Just to add to this:

For the pull-start engine I removed the pull start. Then rotated the flywheel by hand to exactly the correct position off TDC(the F & T marks). Then I locked the crank in place with a plastic screw driver handle jammed between the flywheel and inside of the case. 1st to set the cam-chain, then moved it to the 2nd mark and did the same to set the baseplate/pickup position.

Since this gave me the ability to get it spot on considering that even a tiny bit of crank rotation will throw you off..

JacobMonster
12-25-2015, 05:52 PM
Heres my problem.
I alighn my cam to the second mark on the flywheel, as stated.
Then i move to the first timing mark, and set my CDI. Problem is, the CDI is also pointng to the right a little, about 1 oclock, even when the cam is in the right spot, ans the dowel pin in the cam is at 11 oclock.
One more question, with the timing marks, what is the one that has the 2 dotz that you can see through the timing holes?

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