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JJMF1979
02-11-2012, 10:09 PM
So i can't get an answer on .org so maybe i can get one here....the thing is i got an all balls rear axle bearing kit and it had two bearings and two seals, then an extra different looking bearing seal which the trike did have when i dissassembled it but i can't remember where exactly it goes i did put it where i though it made sence to go but lets see if i was right....let me know if you know it didn't show it in the swingarm diagnostics on the service manual and the bearing kit didn't have instructions of course. also here is a pic of my newly reassembled 200x roller
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Swinger
02-11-2012, 10:30 PM
I just replaced the bearings in my 83 200x and dont remember any other bearing than the 2 and then the 2 dust seals. Where exactly did you put this bearing and what does it look like?

JJMF1979
02-11-2012, 11:43 PM
I just replaced the bearings in my 83 200x and dont remember any other bearing than the 2 and then the 2 dust seals. Where exactly did you put this bearing and what does it look like?
sorry i fixed that....i meant a third different bearing seal just like the one in the picture

travi
02-12-2012, 01:14 AM
i also received the extra seal with my all-balls kit for my 200x , its just an extra since the kit supports several makes and models.

JJMF1979
02-12-2012, 10:08 AM
well the funny part is i removed one off the bike when i dissassembled...thats the one that the picture is of... so it must go on somewhere

shortline10
02-12-2012, 10:11 AM
Yep it goes in the trash can :lol: Universal kit so that seal is not for your bike .


[QUOTE=JJMF1979;1100717) . so it must go on somewhere[/QUOTE]

JJMF1979
02-12-2012, 05:34 PM
Wish i could remember where i took it off of when i dissassembled

Dirtcloud
02-12-2012, 06:16 PM
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Like shortline10 said its useless for your application.

JJMF1979
02-12-2012, 06:29 PM
i have the same schematic in my service manual. but if you look at the rear axle schematic you will see some kind of seal or washer slid on to the axle when you slide it into the swingarm so i tought maybe that was what it was for

Dirtcloud
02-12-2012, 08:31 PM
Those are o-rings there should be two of them.

JJMF1979
02-12-2012, 10:32 PM
are you sure? there was only one and only one came of the trike when i dissassembled.....how come no one else knows what they are? and where to they go they weren't on the schematics....i guess i have two if i need them because the old one is still in good shape

Dirtcloud
02-12-2012, 11:19 PM
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Alright if you look at the pictures the arrows are pointing at the o-rings I'm talking about. One diagram is straight outta the service manual and the other is a parts diagram, because both have them shown I'm pretty sure there supposed to be there.
I could be wrong it's been awhile since I pulled a 200x rear apart but I'm almost positive that they fit in there.

JJMF1979
02-13-2012, 12:16 AM
want to hear something funny.....i saw that axle schematic and put the one i had right where it shows on the service manual because it fit right in there....but are saying i should put one on the brake rotor side too because i do see where the old one i have would fit right in there, there is a little gap between the rotor and swingarm even though everything is tight

Dirtcrasher
02-13-2012, 12:26 AM
Wait a second, didn't you get one odd seal type thing??

Axle bearings/seals do not come with brake rotor hub o-rings...............EVER!

JJMF1979
02-13-2012, 12:45 AM
ya it's a seal and there is a picture at the top of the thread and i don't think it is an o ring but it do think that what is shown in the service manual schematics might be what i have but i am so confused at this point lol i slid it on the axle before i put the axle in the swingarm all the way up to the flat ring on the axle and it fit right on there perfectly so i thought that must be it, anyways i sent a message to who i bought the kit off of and maybe since they sold it to me they know what the parts are for

Dirtcrasher
02-13-2012, 12:57 AM
You have myself, shortline and others saying you don't need it.

ESPECIALLY - Shortline (MIKE) - He is the 200 EXPERT.............

DC smashes face on concrete wall emoticon...

JJMF1979
02-13-2012, 12:59 AM
Here is the link to the all balls site and you can see that there is 2 seals and then 1 other seal but unfortunately in the .pdf instructions they tell how to install the bearings but don't mention the seals.....maybe everyone is right and it is for a different machine as the kit is for a few trikes/atv's http://www.allballsracing.com/25-1122.html

JJMF1979
02-13-2012, 01:03 AM
ya i plan on taking the advice.....especially if as you say he is the 200x expert the main thing that made me question it as i said previously is that i removed the same one off the trike.....head scratcher

travi
02-13-2012, 07:23 AM
the thing with removing the same one from the bike , is that perhaps the last person who did the bearings also bought a universal kit and figured " maby it goes here" . but it is absolutely 100% not required.

shortline10
02-13-2012, 07:29 AM
The kit is definatly a universal kit and the extra seal is just a dust seal for a brake drum cover !!!!

JJMF1979
02-13-2012, 11:13 AM
ok thanks glad I have experienced people on here to get info from....I just wanted to be sure before i discarded it

Dirtcrasher
02-13-2012, 10:46 PM
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Alright if you look at the pictures the arrows are pointing at the o-rings I'm talking about. One diagram is straight outta the service manual and the other is a parts diagram, because both have them shown I'm pretty sure there supposed to be there.
I could be wrong it's been awhile since I pulled a 200x rear apart but I'm almost positive that they fit in there.

BAD BAD ADVICE...... Made him second guess himself......

Ya don't get orings for axle bearing and seal set ups.

JJMF1979
02-14-2012, 12:29 AM
Ya it did confuse me a bit lol but I mostly was waiting to get feedback from a few different people to see what the consensus was and make my decision and the consensus is leave it off so it is off lol

DSHOT59
02-15-2012, 01:59 AM
Damn I could use one of those brake drum seals ! :(